Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Origin The story of Syamantaka appears in the Vishnu Purana and the Bhagavata. The jewel originally belonged to the Sun god, who wore it around his neck. It was said that whichever land possessed this jewel would never encounter any calamities in the form of natural disasters in the form of droughts, floods, earthquakes or famines, and would always be full of prosperity and plenitude. Wherever the jewel remained, it would produce for the keeper eight bh & #257;ras (or almost 1.5 Tons) of gold daily[1] (Note: One Tola=11.7 grams; 8 tolas = one Pala or 93.6 grams; 2000 Palas= one Bhara or 187,200 grams / 1000 grams = 187.20 Kilograms is a Bhara; 8 Bharas = 1,497.6 Kilograms. So Syamantaka produced about 1.5 TONS of gold income daily).[2]. It was also the source of the dazzling appearance of the Sun god. [edit] A Gift From the Sun God On one occasion Satrajit, a Yadava nobleman, and a devotee of Surya, the Sun God, while walking along the sea shore, was praying ardently, on which the god himself appeared and stood before him. Seeing the god in an indistinct and dazzling fiery shape, Satrajit asked him to appear in a less blinding form, so that he could see him clearly. On this the sun took the Syamantaka jewel off his neck, and Satrájit saw him of a dwarfish stature, with a body like burnished copper, and with slightly reddish eyes. Having offered his adorations, the sun desired him to demand a boon, and he requested that the jewel might become his. When Satrajit returned to Dwaraka with the jewel, people mistook him for the Sun God himself, such was his dazzling glory. Krishna asked him to present the jewel to Ugrasena, the supreme leader of the Yadavas, but Satrajit did not comply. [edit] Theft and Recovery Satrajit later presented it to Prasen, his brother, who was also the ruler of a Yadava province. Prasen used to wear it often, and once while hunting in the forest while wearing it, he was attacked by a lion, which killed him and fled with the jewel. But it couldn't get away with it, for shortly after, it was attacked by Jambavan, described as a 'bear', who killed it after a fierce fight and took off with the booty. Note it is believed that this Jambavan is none other than the one who was a part of Rama's army of monkeys to Lanka; and who is considered one of the seven immortals or Chiranjeevi. Now there was a rumour that Lord Krishna also had an eye on the Syamantaka jewel, and when the incident of Prasen's mysterious disappearance became public, people started to accuse Krishna of murder and theft. In order to prove his innocence, Krishna sought to find out the true culprit and recover the jewel. As he followed on the trail of the deceased Prasen, he came to the spot were the corpses of Prasen and his horse still lay, along with pieces of teeth and nails of a lion. From there he followed the footsteps of the lion, which led him to the spot of the second struggle, were the corpse of the lion was lying. From there, he followed the tracks of a bear, which finally led him to the entrance of Jambavan's cave, where the latter's children were playing with the priceless jewel. Thereafter, he engaged himself with a furious fight with Jambavan that lasted for 21 days, defeated him, recovered the jewel, and returned to Dwaraka. He later married Jambavati, Jambavan's daughter. [edit] Krishna's marriage to Satyabhama Meanwhile Krishna's companions, having waited twelve days for Krishna to come out of the cave, returned to Dwaraka despondent. All of Krishna's friends and family members became extremely sorrowful and began regularly worshiping Goddess Durga to assure the Lord's safe return. Even as they performed this worship, Krishna entered the city in the company of His new wife. He summoned Satrajit to the royal assembly and, after recounting to him the entire story of the Syamantaka jewel's recovery, gave the jewel back to him. Satrajit accepted the jewel, but with great shame and remorse. He went back to his home, and there he decided to offer Lord Krishna not only the jewel but also his daughter so as to atone for the offense he had committed against the Lord's lotus feet. Sri Krishna accepted the hand of Satrajit's daughter, Satyabhama, who was endowed with all divine qualities. But the jewel He refused, returning it to King Satrajit. [edit] Deaths of Satrajit and Satadhanwa After a few days, Krishna and Balarama were off to Hastinapura after there were rumours that the Pandavas have been burnt to their deaths in a fire. Kritavarma, Akrura and Satadhanwa, who had their eyes on the dazzling jewel, conspired to make use of Krishna's absence from Dwaraka as an opportunity. Satadhanva one night entered the house of Satrajit and butchered him to death while he was asleep, and made off with the jewel. A sorrowful Satyabhama rushed to Hastinapura to inform Krishna about the ghastly death of her father. Krishna and Balarama immediately started for Dwaraka to avenge Satrajit's death, hearing of which Satadhanwa fled on his horse, keeping the jewel with Akrura. He was chased down by Krishna and Balaram and finally killed by Krishna near Mithila. Later Krishna returned to Dwaraka, and upon realizing that Akrura had already fled to Kashi with the Syamantaka jewel, summoned him up, and asked him to admit his guilt. When Akrura complied, Krishna let him keep it, on the condition that he was to remain in the city of Dwaraka. [edit] Syamantaka Ruby or Shyamantaka Blue Sapphire? Many Hindus know this story, but a common mistake of spelling wrongly as " Shyamantaka " has led to the incorrect idea that Syamantaka was a blue sapphire (Saturn's gem). Even Amar Chitra Katha comic books in India, as well as Indian artists make this mistake. They spell as Shyamantaka and show the Sun God is giving a blue sapphire to Satrajit. If anyone looks at the Sanskrit they will see it is not spelled Shyamantaka (Shyam means dark or dark blue), the real spelling is " SYAMANTAKA " which is the Ruby (Sun's gem) after which the story is named. According to Jyotish or Planetary Gemology, in the Navaratna setting ruby is the gem of the Sun. In support of Syamantaka being a ruby here are two verses from the Bhagavat Purana, which describe Satrajit wearing the gem given to him by Surya, the Sungod. " Wearing the jewel on his neck, Satrajit entered Dvaraka. He shone as brightly as the sun itself, O King, and thus he went unrecognized because of the jewel's effulgence " . - Ref. SB 10.56.4 " As the people looked at Satrajit from a distance, his brilliance blinded them. They presumed he was the sun-god, Surya " . - Ref. SB 10.56.5 The evidence and logic indicate that Syamantaka was a great ruby, gem of the Sungod.[3][4][5]. sacred-objects , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Dear Bala Songyi Ji > Greetings > Interesting. I was fascinated by reading the name of Syamantak Mani. It was the Mani mentioned in Bhaagvat Puraan. It used to give lots of gold everyday but it was to be kept with very cleanliness. > > Are ytou talking about the same Syamantak Mani? > With regards > Sushma > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote: > > > > Sorry Mr Jay > > I did not conclude properly or conclusevily to your Questions. > > > > The tumbled ball from a piece about 66kg (1810), which I believed was from a rock from Altai /Kunlun, Humbolt mountain range of Siberia, Monogolia and Tibet, as the family was based in Yangoon, then, and trade with Chinese and South East Asia, for teak, sandalwood,rice and Burmese imperial jade, rubies, and other gems were prominent activities (of the family). > > The reason for tumbling I assume was to keep it as a relic, if they had not tumbled, I would not think, it would have survives the vissicitudes of time, war,civil unrest, and immigrantion, and may have cause later generations to throw as a piece of old rock > > > > The Specific Gravity: 8-9 g/cm3 (as total SG) > > > > The MOH: 8 > > > > The final general classification of this type (Genus) is > > Mesosiderites (The most mysterious of meteorites) > > > > The other most mysterious meteorite are > > Vermillion Mesosiderites (aka Syamanataka ??-Sun God's Rubies ???), another glowing bright deep blue greenish radiance mystery meteorite > > > > Read about it > > http://www.e-pages.dk/ku/127/66 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > > > Very interesting stone. Any Gemological tests conducted on it? SG, Hardness etc? > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 pix load in group album " Meteorites " sacred-objects/photos/album/916428624/pic/list I will load pix the diamond bearing meteorites, Carbona, gold bearing moldavite, and silver bearing other curiosities from heavens. ASAP My personal assesment on visble and physical contact study (simplified for group members) the top curve is ruby or spinel continous ribbon strip 2 cm to 3.7 cm thickness in places, and the height of the strip is 3 to 5 cm. The middle is comprised of Olivine and peridot crystals. The entire formation is obsidian of terra-terristrial origin with rich metallic mixture The fall was in Akbarpur, Year 1838, April 18, 08.00 hour Quantity: 1 @ weight: 1.82kg. Its been with my ancestors about 1841, since then, its strange why, these ancestors never made a god idol of this heven's stone. Its seems that if an idol is made, it can be taken from place to place/ country to country, if they have to leave due to war or other reasons of uncertainity, they can simply simply remove the idol, but if they keep it tumbled than it become portable anywhere. As long as its with them, its a sort of luck/fortune generator, or something of that sort. I personally being as whether I believe this stone and others in our possesions are luck bringers ? I usually so I don't think so, but in the back of my mind I believe they do. Maybe Generate not physical gold out of the Blue, as traders, and in other trade related dealings, may be it generate the fiscal value($$$ value daily)equivalent daily :-) the total weight is 277 gram and I tumbled it in Finland in 1980 into 4 pieces of almost equal weight. This witnessed fall is recorded on 1st and 2nd and 3rd Edition 2008, Meteorite A to Z by Micheal Jenzen and William Jenzen (of Int'l Meteorite Collectors Assoc.) This book is a sort of record of all falls, witnessed or unwitness that occured on planet earth, about approx. 12,000 falls, from prehistoric to modern times. Report on petrological Assay sacred-objects/photos/album/916428624/pic/list A complete stony-iron pallasite meteorite (277 g) Classification and mineralogy (T. Irving and S. Kuehner, UWS and T. Bunch, NAU): Igneous texture, mostly medium-grained but with some large mineral clasts of orthopyroxene and plagioclase (commonly surrounded by metal-rich areas). Predominantly orthopyroxene with about 10 vol. % metal (5 wt. % Ni), troilite, chromite, merrillite, and sparse, large anorthite clasts (An90.5Ab9.1Or0.4 to An95.1Ab4.6Or0.2). Large orthopyroxene clasts are more magnesian (Fs16.2Wo0.8, FeO/MnO = 34.8) than the predominant medium-sized orthopyroxene grains (Fs22.5Wo2.1 to Fs27.3Wo2.2, FeO/MnO = 29.7-32.7). Small elongate grains of a secondary Ca-Fe-rich phosphate mineral occur along fractures in merrillite grains, and are probably of terrestrial origin. Although this sample resembles a " metal-rich diogenite " rather than a mesosiderite, comparative studies by T. Bunch (NAU) of this sample, NWA 1879 and similar material provided by A. Jambon (UPVI) and M. Farmer (Farmer) have demonstrated that all (with an estimated total weight of over 22 kg) are part of a large, heterogeneous mesosiderite (tentatively assigned to class C) containing sparse eucritic and diogenitic clasts. Specimens: type specimen, 20 g, UWS, 1 g and polished thin section, NAU; main mass, Oakes. sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Origin > > The story of Syamantaka appears in the Vishnu Purana and the Bhagavata. The jewel originally belonged to the Sun god, who wore it around his neck. It was said that whichever land possessed this jewel would never encounter any calamities in the form of natural disasters in the form of droughts, floods, earthquakes or famines, and would always be full of prosperity and plenitude. Wherever the jewel remained, it would produce for the keeper eight bh & #257;ras (or almost 1.5 Tons) of gold daily[1] (Note: One Tola=11.7 grams; 8 tolas = one Pala or 93.6 grams; 2000 Palas= one Bhara or 187,200 grams / 1000 grams = 187.20 Kilograms is a Bhara; 8 Bharas = 1,497.6 Kilograms. So Syamantaka produced about 1.5 TONS of gold income daily).[2]. It was also the source of the dazzling appearance of the Sun god. > > [edit] A Gift From the Sun God > > On one occasion Satrajit, a Yadava nobleman, and a devotee of Surya, the Sun God, while walking along the sea shore, was praying ardently, on which the god himself appeared and stood before him. Seeing the god in an indistinct and dazzling fiery shape, Satrajit asked him to appear in a less blinding form, so that he could see him clearly. On this the sun took the Syamantaka jewel off his neck, and Satrájit saw him of a dwarfish stature, with a body like burnished copper, and with slightly reddish eyes. Having offered his adorations, the sun desired him to demand a boon, and he requested that the jewel might become his. When Satrajit returned to Dwaraka with the jewel, people mistook him for the Sun God himself, such was his dazzling glory. Krishna asked him to present the jewel to Ugrasena, the supreme leader of the Yadavas, but Satrajit did not comply. > > [edit] Theft and Recovery > > Satrajit later presented it to Prasen, his brother, who was also the ruler of a Yadava province. Prasen used to wear it often, and once while hunting in the forest while wearing it, he was attacked by a lion, which killed him and fled with the jewel. But it couldn't get away with it, for shortly after, it was attacked by Jambavan, described as a 'bear', who killed it after a fierce fight and took off with the booty. Note it is believed that this Jambavan is none other than the one who was a part of Rama's army of monkeys to Lanka; and who is considered one of the seven immortals or Chiranjeevi. > > Now there was a rumour that Lord Krishna also had an eye on the Syamantaka jewel, and when the incident of Prasen's mysterious disappearance became public, people started to accuse Krishna of murder and theft. In order to prove his innocence, Krishna sought to find out the true culprit and recover the jewel. As he followed on the trail of the deceased Prasen, he came to the spot were the corpses of Prasen and his horse still lay, along with pieces of teeth and nails of a lion. From there he followed the footsteps of the lion, which led him to the spot of the second struggle, were the corpse of the lion was lying. From there, he followed the tracks of a bear, which finally led him to the entrance of Jambavan's cave, where the latter's children were playing with the priceless jewel. Thereafter, he engaged himself with a furious fight with Jambavan that lasted for 21 days, defeated him, recovered the jewel, and returned to Dwaraka. He later married Jambavati, Jambavan's daughter. > > [edit] Krishna's marriage to Satyabhama > > Meanwhile Krishna's companions, having waited twelve days for Krishna to come out of the cave, returned to Dwaraka despondent. All of Krishna's friends and family members became extremely sorrowful and began regularly worshiping Goddess Durga to assure the Lord's safe return. Even as they performed this worship, Krishna entered the city in the company of His new wife. He summoned Satrajit to the royal assembly and, after recounting to him the entire story of the Syamantaka jewel's recovery, gave the jewel back to him. Satrajit accepted the jewel, but with great shame and remorse. He went back to his home, and there he decided to offer Lord Krishna not only the jewel but also his daughter so as to atone for the offense he had committed against the Lord's lotus feet. Sri Krishna accepted the hand of Satrajit's daughter, Satyabhama, who was endowed with all divine qualities. But the jewel He refused, returning it to King Satrajit. > > [edit] Deaths of Satrajit and Satadhanwa > > After a few days, Krishna and Balarama were off to Hastinapura after there were rumours that the Pandavas have been burnt to their deaths in a fire. Kritavarma, Akrura and Satadhanwa, who had their eyes on the dazzling jewel, conspired to make use of Krishna's absence from Dwaraka as an opportunity. Satadhanva one night entered the house of Satrajit and butchered him to death while he was asleep, and made off with the jewel. > > A sorrowful Satyabhama rushed to Hastinapura to inform Krishna about the ghastly death of her father. Krishna and Balarama immediately started for Dwaraka to avenge Satrajit's death, hearing of which Satadhanwa fled on his horse, keeping the jewel with Akrura. He was chased down by Krishna and Balaram and finally killed by Krishna near Mithila. Later Krishna returned to Dwaraka, and upon realizing that Akrura had already fled to Kashi with the Syamantaka jewel, summoned him up, and asked him to admit his guilt. When Akrura complied, Krishna let him keep it, on the condition that he was to remain in the city of Dwaraka. > > [edit] Syamantaka Ruby or Shyamantaka Blue Sapphire? > > Many Hindus know this story, but a common mistake of spelling wrongly as " Shyamantaka " has led to the incorrect idea that Syamantaka was a blue sapphire (Saturn's gem). Even Amar Chitra Katha comic books in India, as well as Indian artists make this mistake. They spell as Shyamantaka and show the Sun God is giving a blue sapphire to Satrajit. If anyone looks at the Sanskrit they will see it is not spelled Shyamantaka (Shyam means dark or dark blue), the real spelling is " SYAMANTAKA " which is the Ruby (Sun's gem) after which the story is named. According to Jyotish or Planetary Gemology, in the Navaratna setting ruby is the gem of the Sun. > > In support of Syamantaka being a ruby here are two verses from the Bhagavat Purana, which describe Satrajit wearing the gem given to him by Surya, the Sungod. > > " Wearing the jewel on his neck, Satrajit entered Dvaraka. He shone as brightly as the sun itself, O King, and thus he went unrecognized because of the jewel's effulgence " . - Ref. SB 10.56.4 > > " As the people looked at Satrajit from a distance, his brilliance blinded them. They presumed he was the sun-god, Surya " . - Ref. SB 10.56.5 > > The evidence and logic indicate that Syamantaka was a great ruby, gem of the Sungod.[3][4][5]. > > sacred-objects , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bala Songyi Ji > > Greetings > > Interesting. I was fascinated by reading the name of Syamantak Mani. It was the Mani mentioned in Bhaagvat Puraan. It used to give lots of gold everyday but it was to be kept with very cleanliness. > > > > Are ytou talking about the same Syamantak Mani? > > With regards > > Sushma > > > > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry Mr Jay > > > I did not conclude properly or conclusevily to your Questions. > > > > > > The tumbled ball from a piece about 66kg (1810), which I believed was from a rock from Altai /Kunlun, Humbolt mountain range of Siberia, Monogolia and Tibet, as the family was based in Yangoon, then, and trade with Chinese and South East Asia, for teak, sandalwood,rice and Burmese imperial jade, rubies, and other gems were prominent activities (of the family). > > > The reason for tumbling I assume was to keep it as a relic, if they had not tumbled, I would not think, it would have survives the vissicitudes of time, war,civil unrest, and immigrantion, and may have cause later generations to throw as a piece of old rock > > > > > > The Specific Gravity: 8-9 g/cm3 (as total SG) > > > > > > The MOH: 8 > > > > > > The final general classification of this type (Genus) is > > > Mesosiderites (The most mysterious of meteorites) > > > > > > The other most mysterious meteorite are > > > Vermillion Mesosiderites (aka Syamanataka ??-Sun God's Rubies ???), another glowing bright deep blue greenish radiance mystery meteorite > > > > > > Read about it > > > http://www.e-pages.dk/ku/127/66 > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > > > > > Very interesting stone. Any Gemological tests conducted on it? SG, Hardness etc? > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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