Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 dear friend the surmise of arya samaj as mythology as supersition is correct to the extent of keeping faith and belief in unreal and false images, objects and mythical mystique things. however, it is the freedom and choice of a native whether to believe in such myths are not. if an invisible, unnamed, unseen allah tells prophet mohammed something and he in turn preaches to his disciples what he understands from allah, that mythical god becomes the god of crores of muslims simply because of their belief in this myth. if jesus has performed so many miracles, and we find more mythical from the old testament of moses, and return to life mythically after crucification, his followers make it the largest religion in the world with crores believing that myth. so are the puranas supposedly written by the sages thousands of years ago narrating various mythological gods and creatures which are like mythical fairy tales but billions of people believe it right from the half man half elephant ganesha or half man half lion narasimha. similarly, sacred objects are based on faith and belief which is why i keep on saying that we cannot treat them as commodities when the very genesis and basis of selling them is due to their mythical powers and attributions. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " h. r. gupte " <hrgupte wrote: > > Here is very nice information about Puranas.... > > http://www.oration.com/~mm9n/articles/dev/07Puranas.htm > > The oldest Purana is believed to date back to 300 AD, and the most recent ones to 1300 - 1600 AD. Although they have been composed at different times, all the Puranas seem to have been revised at a later date. This is apparent because all of them state that the total number is 18. The Puranas vary greatly in length: the Skanda Purana is the longest with 81,000 couplets, while the Brahma Purana and Vamana Purana are the shortest with 10,000 couplets each. The total number of couplets in the Puranas collectively is 400,000. (http://www.gurjari.net/ico/Mystica/html/purana.htm) > > Scholars regard the Puranas in general as having been compiled by many hands between the 4th and the 16th centuries AD. [http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/ganesh/puranas.htm] > > The oldest of the Puranas, Vayu Purana, may date back to about the sixth century. and some of the others may be as recent as the thirteenth century. [http://scholars.nus.edu.sg/post/india/religion/hindu/hindu1.html: University Scholars Program] > > Further..... > http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2001/3-4/13_arya_samaj.shtml > > Swami Dayananda Saraswati founded the Arya Samaj in 1875 as a social/political reform movement within Hinduism. He sought to reestablish the Vedas as the primary scriptural source..... > > He was also convinced that Puranic literature relating the stories of Gods and devas was fiction. Here, he stood on better ground against opposition. His argument was that such unfounded myths, as he regarded them, lead to superstition not conducive to intelligent religious culture. He said, " Just as a grain of poison is sufficient to vitiate several pounds of food-stuff, similarly the poison of mythology has vitiated the whole Puranic literature. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 This is Western academic hogwash. The Srimad Bhagavad Purana gives it's own date as spoken by Suka Dev to Parikshit some 40-60 years (I have the book in my library to check exact number) just AFTER start of Kali Yuga, which is older than 5000 years now. And Bhagavad was the last of the 18 puranas. Gita was spoken BEFORE end of Dvapura Yuga, so Gita is OVER 5000 years old - AS IS!!! But Western scholars will try to say Indians came from Arians outside India, and Puranas are recent. This is hogwash. Indians came from Indians, and Puranas came over 5000 years ago. If you want to know how old are the Shastras don't ask " Google " , ask a real Pandit. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: > > The oldest Purana is believed to date back to 300 AD, and the most > recent ones to 1300 - 1600 AD. Although they have been composed at > different times, all the Puranas seem to have been revised at a later > date...... > > Scholars regard the Puranas in general as having been compiled by many hands between the 4th and the 16th centuries AD. [http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/ganesh/puranas.htm]����� > > So scholars tells us all puranas are not very old but just few hundred yrs old....and almost all are compiled after death of Jesus christ.. > > Well about Jesus christ or Jesus of Nazreth there are many sites of web which proves that never� jesus of nazreth ever existed....just google with words 'jesus ever existed' and u will get many sites about this... > > Further...there r n number of sites on www about islam and mohammad....talking criticaly word by word what mohammad said and teachings of islam... > > Many ppl say Rama never ever existed...but we Hindus beleive Rama existed.... > > So u rightly said its faith.....So I am also saying its faith...nothing else..... > And I keep on repeating thoe words...'Mano toh ye Gnaga ma hai....mano toh baheta pani'... > Regards > H R Gupte > > --- On Fri, 1/5/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: Puranas... > sacred-objects > Friday, 1 May, 2009, 5:35 AM > > dear friend > > the surmise of arya samaj as mythology as supersition is correct to the extent of keeping faith and belief in unreal and false images, objects and mythical mystique things. > > however, it is the freedom and choice of a native whether to believe in such myths are not. > > if an invisible, unnamed, unseen allah tells prophet mohammed something and he in turn preaches to his disciples what he understands from allah, that mythical god becomes the god of crores of muslims simply because of their belief in this myth. > > if jesus has performed so many miracles, and we find more mythical from the old testament of moses, and return to life mythically after crucification, his followers make it the largest religion in the world with crores believing that myth. > > so are the puranas supposedly written by the sages thousands of years ago narrating various mythological gods and creatures which are like mythical fairy tales but billions of people believe it right from the half man half elephant ganesha or half man half lion narasimha. > > similarly, sacred objects are based on faith and belief which is why i keep on saying that we cannot treat them as commodities when the very genesis and basis of selling them is due to their mythical powers and attributions. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , " h. r. gupte " <hrgupte@> wrote: > > > > Here is very nice information about Puranas.... > > > > http://www.oration.com/~mm9n/articles/dev/07Puranas.htm > > > > The oldest Purana is believed to date back to 300 AD, and the most recent ones to 1300 - 1600 AD. Although they have been composed at different times, all the Puranas seem to have been revised at a later date. This is apparent because all of them state that the total number is 18. The Puranas vary greatly in length: the Skanda Purana is the longest with 81,000 couplets, while the Brahma Purana and Vamana Purana are the shortest with 10,000 couplets each. The total number of couplets in the Puranas collectively is 400,000. (http://www.gurjari.net/ico/Mystica/html/purana.htm) > > > > Scholars regard the Puranas in general as having been compiled by many hands between the 4th and the 16th centuries AD. [http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/ganesh/puranas.htm] > > > > The oldest of the Puranas, Vayu Purana, may date back to about the sixth century. and some of the others may be as recent as the thirteenth century. [http://scholars.nus.edu.sg/post/india/religion/hindu/hindu1.html: University Scholars Program] > > > > Further..... > > http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2001/3-4/13_arya_samaj.shtml > > > > Swami Dayananda Saraswati founded the Arya Samaj in 1875 as a social/political reform movement within Hinduism. He sought to reestablish the Vedas as the primary scriptural source..... > > > > He was also convinced that Puranic literature relating the stories of Gods and devas was fiction. Here, he stood on better ground against opposition. His argument was that such unfounded myths, as he regarded them, lead to superstition not conducive to intelligent religious culture. He said, " Just as a grain of poison is sufficient to vitiate several pounds of food-stuff, similarly the poison of mythology has vitiated the whole Puranic literature. " > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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