Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 dear friends please find the photograph of an elephant pearl in the following link under the album tantric products in the photos section of this group. sacred-objects/photos/album/1189920729/pic/5636798\ 09/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc have never dealt in manis or animal pearls earlier and this is the first time that i got this elephant pearl. i was told by the wildlife authorities that there is a ban only on ivory trade and not on elephant pearl. elephants are still reared for work and as pets by various people especially in kerala and assam besides being hired by the temples. some people even make it work for carrying timber and in cities few make it work for a joyride by children and there is no ban on the use of elephant and its other products but only ivory is banned. this elephant pearl is very hard and strong like a stone and is believed to give whosoever possess it, strength and power of an elephant. devotees of lord ganesha will be blessed directly by having this, as believed. let me state beforehand that i do not have any scriptural references to elephant pearl and it is up to the discerning collector who wants this out of interest, lest am pretty happy to have lord ganesha with me in the form of this elephant pearl. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear All There is method of ID devised, based on Raman Spectroscopy. As I do not have a sofe E-copy, and only a hard copy, I will posted as I am back in big apple. RARE IVORIES Challenging identifications Grahame Brown A lecture presented on the author's behalf by Hylda Bracewell FGAA to the Scientific Programme of the 2007 Federal Conference of the G.A.A that was held in Hobart, Tasmania on 19th May 2007. Excepted irritatingly typed: - (E & O accepted as usual drunk)QUOTE:- THE ELEPHANT PEARL Elephant pearls are the equivalent of pulp stones in human teeth. They are formed from rounded calcified masses of dentine (ivory) and are recovered from the large soft tissue pulps of the continuously growing teeth (tusks) of mammals such as the elephant (recent and fossil). These rare objects, which are known as Gajamukta (gaja-muthu) are much revered and valued by members of the Buddhist faith - particularly in Sri Lanka. It is commonly believed that the person who possesses a Gajamukta will be very successful in life and could become king. Identifying elephant pearls requires a mix of observational skill and advanced spectroscopy. As the elephant pearl consists of a rounded mass of dentine, its surface may be patterned by curving growth layers; but the external surface of the elephant pearl will not display an engine-turned surface. This observation allows its ready discrimination from a shaped elephant molar or carved elephant ivory; but will not allow identification of the species of mammal responsible for producing the pearl. To achieve this discrimination requires use of Raman spectroscopy to determine the relative intensities two specific bands in the suspect elephant pearl's 1064 nm excited Raman spectra ... vide the protocol established by Edwards et al. (1995, 1997) and detailed in (1995) Spectrochimica Acta. Part A. 51, 2073; (1997) Journal of Molecular Structure. 435, 49-58; and (1997) Spectrochimica. Acta Part A. 53, 2403- These identifying bands are the 2937 cm-1 band that has been attributed to a specific proteinaceous component of the ivory, and the 960 cm-1 band that been attributed to inorganic phosphate in the carbonated hydroxyapatite of the dentine. The identifying I2937 /I960ratios for various ivories are summarised in the following table. TYPE OF IVORY I2940/I960 RATIO African elephant 0.47 Sperm whale 0.45 Asian elephant 0.35 Walrus 0.34 Hippopotamus 0.33 Narwhal 0.16 So: Q3. Which is the elephant pearl? FOTO 1 ? OR FOTO 2 (I adapted the sentence to suit this post and uplod of album in this group) A3. The specimen to the upper right (ADAPTED AS FOTO 2 FOR this post/message of this group)is the true elephant pearl, for it had the I2940/I960 ratio of 0.36 that identified its ivory that of the Asiatic elephant. SEE FILE FOR CORRECT ELEPHANT PEARL IN FILE UPLOADED WITHIN THIS GROUP. elephant peral pix (MS DOC) http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/8Nv4SaU8d6Ii-vodhqpJ0vR34b6SyfvvfZvfPpMtdnkMdmYKI5h\ nNOm1PCR-iwJ5rxJ_wrci-qmWZS0qxH9hxj2SyJkrVBO4Dxs/elephant%20peral%20pix.docx Cheers sacred-objects , spy done <spy_done wrote: > > > Dear Friends > > Please find attached photo & vedio [MP4] elepahnt pearl/gajamani.. > > regads > > vijay > > > --- On Tue, 28/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > elephant pearl > sacred-objects > Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 7:35 AM > > dear friends > > please find the photograph of an elephant pearl in the following link under the album tantric products in the photos section of this group. > > http://groups. / group/sacred- objects/photos/ album/1189920729 /pic/563679809/ view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count= 20 & dir=asc > > have never dealt in manis or animal pearls earlier and this is the first time that i got this elephant pearl. i was told by the wildlife authorities that there is a ban only on ivory trade and not on elephant pearl. elephants are still reared for work and as pets by various people especially in kerala and assam besides being hired by the temples. some people even make it work for carrying timber and in cities few make it work for a joyride by children and there is no ban on the use of elephant and its other products but only ivory is banned. > > this elephant pearl is very hard and strong like a stone and is believed to give whosoever possess it, strength and power of an elephant. devotees of lord ganesha will be blessed directly by having this, as believed. let me state beforehand that i do not have any scriptural references to elephant pearl and it is up to the discerning collector who wants this out of interest, lest am pretty happy to have lord ganesha with me in the form of this elephant pearl. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 dear friends as mentioned in the previous mail, due to inexperience and lack of complete knowledge, i am not able to answer queries on the elephant pearl which i got by luck for the first time and the same is already given away to a discerning devotee. in view of the above, i have deleted the photo of the elephant pearl from the photos section as i dont have any elephant pearl with me anymore. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > please find the photograph of an elephant pearl in the following link under the album tantric products in the photos section of this group. > > sacred-objects/photos/album/1189920729/pic/5636798\ 09/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc > > have never dealt in manis or animal pearls earlier and this is the first time that i got this elephant pearl. i was told by the wildlife authorities that there is a ban only on ivory trade and not on elephant pearl. elephants are still reared for work and as pets by various people especially in kerala and assam besides being hired by the temples. some people even make it work for carrying timber and in cities few make it work for a joyride by children and there is no ban on the use of elephant and its other products but only ivory is banned. > > this elephant pearl is very hard and strong like a stone and is believed to give whosoever possess it, strength and power of an elephant. devotees of lord ganesha will be blessed directly by having this, as believed. let me state beforehand that i do not have any scriptural references to elephant pearl and it is up to the discerning collector who wants this out of interest, lest am pretty happy to have lord ganesha with me in the form of this elephant pearl. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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