Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? What does the LAW says? Krish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 dear friend please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws. anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777 wrote: > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > What does the LAW says? > > Krish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dear Friend, Thank you for the response! I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you. According to Indian Wild Life Act, " Vermin " classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e: WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972 SCHEDULE V (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) 1.Common crow 2{2. •••] 3.Fruit bats 2[4. ••*] 5.Mice 6.Rats \ 7. •••] 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002. 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977. According to your previous post, I found this: the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited which are not declared " vermin " by the governent. the indian government has declared the following under " vermin " and hunting and possession of these animals or their products listed under " vermin " IS PERMITTED under this act: 1. common crow 2. common fox 3. fruit bats 4. jackal 5. mice 6. rats 7. voles I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same. Krish sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws. > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777@> wrote: > > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > > > What does the LAW says? > > > > Krish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 From my findings, at the least, Jackal is not classified as " Vermin " . sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > > Thank you for the response! > > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you. > > According to Indian Wild Life Act, " Vermin " classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e: > > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972 > SCHEDULE V > (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > 1.Common crow > > 2{2. •••] > > 3.Fruit bats > > 2[4. ••*] > > 5.Mice > > 6.Rats \ > > 7. •••] > > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002. > > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977. > > > According to your previous post, I found this: > the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > which are not declared " vermin " by the governent. the indian > government has declared the following under " vermin " and hunting and > possession of these animals or their products listed under " vermin " > IS PERMITTED under this act: > 1. common crow > 2. common fox > 3. fruit bats > 4. jackal > 5. mice > 6. rats > 7. voles > > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same. > > > Krish > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws. > > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777@> wrote: > > > > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > > > > > What does the LAW says? > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 dear friend as a supplier, it is our bounden duty to answer a query of the customer and am glad that you are asking a few queries. there are more knowledgeable members like dasaji who says have done great amount of research and says have more ancient scriptures than me and just like you, i too asked him to share his references from the puranas or upanishads or itihasas about higher mukhi rudrakshas. if he or any other valued member shares this information, i would be highly grateful and stand educated that rudraksha above 14mukhi are indeed mentioned in ancient scriptures (any ancient scripture among puranas, upanishads or itihasas). since i am neither a supplier nor a customer of these rudraksha above 15mukhi, can you kindly ask that query also and share the references from anicent scriptures please, so that if they are found mention, i would surely start dealing in them. it is a different thing that the wholesale suppliers were not able to furnsih this earlier without which i said i wont buy from them. in your mail, you pasted a list which has blanks at few items viz. 2, 4 and 7. when you furnish a list of seven before the members you shall not censor or delete and shall put the whole thing. in case some footnotes are there, you must go through them and put the names and furnish only the complete list and not an edited list of your own. by the way, the list in the latest amended act which i read has these names and you are giving an edited list deleteing the item dealt by me deliberately. please explain. in case you do not find the complete list of seven animals permitted by the Act, please ask me and i will furnish the Act. anyway, as per the Act, hunting and possession of these seven animals (including siyar) is permitted in india. hope this is clear. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > > Thank you for the response! > > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you. > > According to Indian Wild Life Act, " Vermin " classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e: > > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972 > SCHEDULE V > (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > 1.Common crow > > 2{2. •••] > > 3.Fruit bats > > 2[4. ••*] > > 5.Mice > > 6.Rats \ > > 7. •••] > > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002. > > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977. > > > According to your previous post, I found this: > the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > which are not declared " vermin " by the governent. the indian > government has declared the following under " vermin " and hunting and > possession of these animals or their products listed under " vermin " > IS PERMITTED under this act: > 1. common crow > 2. common fox > 3. fruit bats > 4. jackal > 5. mice > 6. rats > 7. voles > > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same. > > > Krish > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws. > > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777@> wrote: > > > > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > > > > > What does the LAW says? > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dear Friend, I have pasted the list "AS IS", below is one of the reference and you can find the similar list any where on the web: http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife2s5.html http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife1.html My question was how you were able to fill the rest of the list viz: 2, 4 & 7??? --From further research, I was able to find the following: See reference from my inquiry in indiansforguns forum(basically they discuss hunting related issues): http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4 & t=6433 (scroll down) I am researching into other products too. Pandit Arjun- You have mentioned in your previous post regarding "Elephant Pearl" that you talked to Wild Life authorities, can you provide their contact number? I would like to clarify many other products with them. Kindly do not take my question/mail personal, it is for the benefit of one & all, to find out what's legal 'n' what's not:) Thank you,Krish sacred-objects , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear friend> > as a supplier, it is our bounden duty to answer a query of the customer and am glad that you are asking a few queries. > > there are more knowledgeable members like dasaji who says have done great amount of research and says have more ancient scriptures than me and just like you, i too asked him to share his references from the puranas or upanishads or itihasas about higher mukhi rudrakshas. if he or any other valued member shares this information, i would be highly grateful and stand educated that rudraksha above 14mukhi are indeed mentioned in ancient scriptures (any ancient scripture among puranas, upanishads or itihasas). since i am neither a supplier nor a customer of these rudraksha above 15mukhi, can you kindly ask that query also and share the references from anicent scriptures please, so that if they are found mention, i would surely start dealing in them. it is a different thing that the wholesale suppliers were not able to furnsih this earlier without which i said i wont buy from them.> > in your mail, you pasted a list which has blanks at few items viz. 2, 4 and 7. when you furnish a list of seven before the members you shall not censor or delete and shall put the whole thing. in case some footnotes are there, you must go through them and put the names and furnish only the complete list and not an edited list of your own. by the way, the list in the latest amended act which i read has these names and you are giving an edited list deleteing the item dealt by me deliberately. please explain. in case you do not find the complete list of seven animals permitted by the Act, please ask me and i will furnish the Act.> > anyway, as per the Act, hunting and possession of these seven animals (including siyar) is permitted in india. hope this is clear.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > sacred-objects , "krish667777" krish667777@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friend,> > > > Thank you for the response!> > > > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you.> > > > According to Indian Wild Life Act, "Vermin" classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e:> > > > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972> > SCHEDULE V> > (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > > 1.Common crow > > > > 2{2. •••]> > > > 3.Fruit bats> > > > 2[4. ••*]> > > > 5.Mice> > > > 6.Rats \> > > > 7. •••]> > > > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002.> > > > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977.> > > > > > According to your previous post, I found this:> > the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > > which are not declared "vermin" by the governent. the indian > > government has declared the following under "vermin" and hunting and > > possession of these animals or their products listed under "vermin" > > IS PERMITTED under this act:> > 1. common crow> > 2. common fox> > 3. fruit bats> > 4. jackal> > 5. mice> > 6. rats> > 7. voles> > > > > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same.> > > > > > Krish> > > > > > sacred-objects , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > >> > > dear friend> > > > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under "vermin" and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws.> > > > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed.> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > pandit arjun> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > sacred-objects , "krish667777" <krish667777@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles?> > > > > > > > What does the LAW says?> > > > > > > > Krish> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 dear friend since you could not find the complete list, let me give you the complete list of seven animals classified as vermin under schedule V of the Indian Wildlife Act, 1972. 1. common crow 2. common fox 3. fruit bats 4. jackal 5. mice 6. rats 7. voles the file as available in the karnataka government website may be viewed below where you may visit page number 52 to find the above list: http://karnatakaforest.gov.in/English/Acts_Rules/acts/Wildlife_Protection_Act_19\ 72.pdf with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777 wrote: > > > Dear Friend, > > I have pasted the list " AS IS " , below is one of the reference and you > can find the similar list any where on the web: > > http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife2s5.html > <http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife2s5.html> > > http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife1.html > <http://envfor.nic.in/legis/wildlife/wildlife1.html> > > My question was how you were able to fill the rest of the list viz: 2, 4 > & 7??? > > -- > From further research, I was able to find the following: > > See reference from my inquiry in indiansforguns forum(basically they > discuss hunting related issues): > > http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4 & t=6433 > <http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4 & t=6433> (scroll down) > > I am researching into other products too. > > Pandit Arjun- You have mentioned in your previous post regarding > " Elephant Pearl " that you talked to Wild Life authorities, can you > provide their contact number? I would like to clarify many other > products with them. > > Kindly do not take my question/mail personal, it is for the benefit of > one & all, to find out what's legal 'n' what's not:) > > Thank you, > Krish sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > as a supplier, it is our bounden duty to answer a query of the > customer and am glad that you are asking a few queries. > > > > there are more knowledgeable members like dasaji who says have done > great amount of research and says have more ancient scriptures than me > and just like you, i too asked him to share his references from the > puranas or upanishads or itihasas about higher mukhi rudrakshas. if he > or any other valued member shares this information, i would be highly > grateful and stand educated that rudraksha above 14mukhi are indeed > mentioned in ancient scriptures (any ancient scripture among puranas, > upanishads or itihasas). since i am neither a supplier nor a customer of > these rudraksha above 15mukhi, can you kindly ask that query also and > share the references from anicent scriptures please, so that if they are > found mention, i would surely start dealing in them. it is a different > thing that the wholesale suppliers were not able to furnsih this earlier > without which i said i wont buy from them. > > > > in your mail, you pasted a list which has blanks at few items viz. 2, > 4 and 7. when you furnish a list of seven before the members you shall > not censor or delete and shall put the whole thing. in case some > footnotes are there, you must go through them and put the names and > furnish only the complete list and not an edited list of your own. by > the way, the list in the latest amended act which i read has these names > and you are giving an edited list deleteing the item dealt by me > deliberately. please explain. in case you do not find the complete list > of seven animals permitted by the Act, please ask me and i will furnish > the Act. > > > > anyway, as per the Act, hunting and possession of these seven animals > (including siyar) is permitted in india. hope this is clear. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , " krish667777 " krish667777@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > Thank you for the response! > > > > > > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable > to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by > you. > > > > > > According to Indian Wild Life Act, " Vermin " classification is > anything which falls under schedule V, i.e: > > > > > > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972 > > > SCHEDULE V > > > (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > > > 1.Common crow > > > > > > 2{2. •••] > > > > > > 3.Fruit bats > > > > > > 2[4. ••*] > > > > > > 5.Mice > > > > > > 6.Rats \ > > > > > > 7. •••] > > > > > > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide > corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002. > > > > > > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977. > > > > > > > > > According to your previous post, I found this: > > > the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > > > which are not declared " vermin " by the governent. the indian > > > government has declared the following under " vermin " and hunting and > > > possession of these animals or their products listed under " vermin " > > > IS PERMITTED under this act: > > > 1. common crow > > > 2. common fox > > > 3. fruit bats > > > 4. jackal > > > 5. mice > > > 6. rats > > > 7. voles > > > > > > > > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 > thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same. > > > > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed > answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified > under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian > laws. > > > > > > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items > mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " krish667777 " > <krish667777@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/carry wild life articles like : > siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats > cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > > > > > > > > > What does the LAW says? > > > > > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Hare Krishna Prabhu Arjun ji, Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu since you have quoted my name in your mail for knowing texts of 15 Mukhi and and above Rudrakshas so I would request you to go thro ancient Hindu Mythology more seriously. Dont depend upon knowledge from internet or superficial knowledge gained from here and there Prabhu. The other time you wrote some cock and bull story about energising and Abhimantran of Rudrakshas. Where as this is a very secret art and untill and unless you do a serious study of all Puranas you will not be able to find answers. Just chanting beej mantra or mool mantras cannot super charge the beads. And it is very difficult to really spoon fed you with all this vital information. Secondly, I must bring to the notice of the group members that all the animal products we are discussing about are banned in India, purchasing and selling of these products will take you behind bars. Recently (around 6 months back) in Haridwar one very big supplier in terms of Rudrakshas and religious items got arrested for keeping fake Hatha Jodi, fake Siyar Singee, fake cats chord, Kasturi etc. He has been sentenced imprisoned for 10 years. So beware of all these consequences. Those who knows few Haridwar suppliers would definitely know about which supplier I am talking about.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8--- On Tue, 28/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: Possession of Wild life articles?sacred-objects Date: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 7:02 PM dear friendas a supplier, it is our bounden duty to answer a query of the customer and am glad that you are asking a few queries. there are more knowledgeable members like dasaji who says have done great amount of research and says have more ancient scriptures than me and just like you, i too asked him to share his references from the puranas or upanishads or itihasas about higher mukhi rudrakshas. if he or any other valued member shares this information, i would be highly grateful and stand educated that rudraksha above 14mukhi are indeed mentioned in ancient scriptures (any ancient scripture among puranas, upanishads or itihasas). since i am neither a supplier nor a customer of these rudraksha above 15mukhi, can you kindly ask that query also and share the references from anicent scriptures please, so that if they are found mention, i would surely start dealing in them. it is a different thing that the wholesale suppliers were not able to furnsih this earlier without which i said i wont buy from them.in your mail, you pasted a list which has blanks at few items viz. 2, 4 and 7. when you furnish a list of seven before the members you shall not censor or delete and shall put the whole thing. in case some footnotes are there, you must go through them and put the names and furnish only the complete list and not an edited list of your own. by the way, the list in the latest amended act which i read has these names and you are giving an edited list deleteing the item dealt by me deliberately. please explain. in case you do not find the complete list of seven animals permitted by the Act, please ask me and i will furnish the Act.anyway, as per the Act, hunting and possession of these seven animals (including siyar) is permitted in india. hope this is clear.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, "krish667777" <krish667777@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Friend,> > Thank you for the response!> > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you.> > According to Indian Wild Life Act, "Vermin" classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e:> > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972> SCHEDULE V> (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > 1.Common crow > > 2{2. •••]> > 3.Fruit bats> > 2[4. ••*]> > 5.Mice> > 6.Rats \> > 7. •••]> > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002.> > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt.. 5-10-1977.> > > According to your previous post, I found this:> the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > which are not declared "vermin" by the governent. the indian > government has declared the following under "vermin" and hunting and > possession of these animals or their products listed under "vermin" > IS PERMITTED under this act:> 1. common crow> 2. common fox> 3. fruit bats> 4. jackal> 5. mice> 6. rats> 7. voles> > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same.> > > Krish> > > sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:> >> > dear friend> > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under "vermin" and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws.> > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > sacred-objects, "krish667777" <krish667777@ > wrote:> > >> > > Is it OK to possess/procure/ carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles?> > > > > > What does the LAW says?> > > > > > Krish> > >> >> Bring your gang together. Do your thing.. Find your favourite Group. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 dear friend since you never give an answer and demand answers from me, it is hightime i too stop answering your mails henceforth. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Arjun ji, > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > Prabhu since you have quoted my name in your mail for knowing texts of 15 Mukhi and and above Rudrakshas so I would request you to go thro ancient Hindu Mythology more seriously. Dont depend upon knowledge from internet or superficial knowledge gained from here and there Prabhu. >  > The other time you wrote some cock and bull story about energising and Abhimantran  of Rudrakshas. Where as this is a very secret art and untill and unless you do a serious study of all Puranas you will not be able to find answers. Just chanting beej mantra or mool mantras cannot super charge the beads. And it is very difficult to really spoon fed you with all this vital information. >  > Secondly, I must bring to the notice of the group members that all the animal products we are discussing about are banned in India, purchasing and selling of these products will take you behind bars. Recently (around 6 months back) in Haridwar one very big supplier in terms of Rudrakshas and religious items got arrested for keeping fake Hatha Jodi, fake Siyar Singee, fake cats chord, Kasturi etc. He has been sentenced imprisoned for 10 years.. So beware of all these consequences. Those who knows few Haridwar suppliers > would definitely know about which supplier I am talking about. > > I hope this will help, > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Have a Nice Day, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > 00 91 9322646421 > 0091 22 24459616 > salagram8 > > --- On Tue, 28/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: Possession of Wild life articles? > sacred-objects > Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 7:02 PM > > dear friend > > as a supplier, it is our bounden duty to answer a query of the customer and am glad that you are asking a few queries. > > there are more knowledgeable members like dasaji who says have done great amount of research and says have more ancient scriptures than me and just like you, i too asked him to share his references from the puranas or upanishads or itihasas about higher mukhi rudrakshas. if he or any other valued member shares this information, i would be highly grateful and stand educated that rudraksha above 14mukhi are indeed mentioned in ancient scriptures (any ancient scripture among puranas, upanishads or itihasas). since i am neither a supplier nor a customer of these rudraksha above 15mukhi, can you kindly ask that query also and share the references from anicent scriptures please, so that if they are found mention, i would surely start dealing in them. it is a different thing that the wholesale suppliers were not able to furnsih this earlier without which i said i wont buy from them. > > in your mail, you pasted a list which has blanks at few items viz. 2, 4 and 7. when you furnish a list of seven before the members you shall not censor or delete and shall put the whole thing. in case some footnotes are there, you must go through them and put the names and furnish only the complete list and not an edited list of your own. by the way, the list in the latest amended act which i read has these names and you are giving an edited list deleteing the item dealt by me deliberately. please explain. in case you do not find the complete list of seven animals permitted by the Act, please ask me and i will furnish the Act. > > anyway, as per the Act, hunting and possession of these seven animals (including siyar) is permitted in india. hope this is clear. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > sacred-objects, " krish667777 " <krish667777@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > Thank you for the response! > > > > I have gone thru your post and also gone thru wild life act, unable to conclude at this point, wildlife act list and the list provided by you. > > > > According to Indian Wild Life Act, " Vermin " classification is anything which falls under schedule V, i.e: > > > > WILD LIFE (PROTECTION) ACT, 1972 > > SCHEDULE V > > (Sections 2, 8, 61 and 62) > > 1.Common crow > > > > 2{2. •••] > > > > 3.Fruit bats > > > > 2[4. ••*] > > > > 5.Mice > > > > 6.Rats \ > > > > 7. •••] > > > > 1 Inserted vide Noti. No. 1-4/95, dt. 5-12-2001 & corrected vide corrigendum Noti. No. 1-4/95/WL-l, dt. 19-2-2002. > > > > 2 Vide Notification No. FJ 11012/31 /76 FRY(WL), dt. 5-10-1977. > > > > > > According to your previous post, I found this: > > the hunting or trade of only those animals or birds are prohibited > > which are not declared " vermin " by the governent. the indian > > government has declared the following under " vermin " and hunting and > > possession of these animals or their products listed under " vermin " > > IS PERMITTED under this act: > > 1. common crow > > 2. common fox > > 3. fruit bats > > 4. jackal > > 5. mice > > 6. rats > > 7. voles > > > > > > I am unable to conclude how you were able to relate list with the 1 thru 7 wild animals. I request a breif explanation on the same. > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > please go through the archives and you would find a detailed answer from me on this subject given earlier as to what are classified under " vermin " and what all items can be possessed under the indian laws. > > > > > > anyway, for your easy understandig, except ivory, rest all items mentioned by you are tradeable and can be possessed. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, " krish667777 " <krish667777@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Is it OK to possess/procure/ carry wild life articles like : siyar singhi, hatha jori(thou its close to impossible to procure) cats cord, ivory, peacock feathers etc...articles? > > > > > > > > What does the LAW says? > > > > > > > > Krish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring your gang together. 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