Saturn Shila

April 15, 2009

Sorry! I misunderstood the question of Saturn Shila. A rock from planet Saturn

coming to Earth. As a gemologist I can say that is absurd and 100% unproveable!

Y/s, R-

sacred-objects , " krish667777 " <krish667777 wrote:

>

> QUOTE " and also request Dasa Ji to enlighten us on Saturn Shila as how you

track them as from what planet it is coming from? Or where it is tested to prove

it came from Saturn.

>

> DO YOU MEAN NAVARATNA? UNQUOTE

>

> NO!!! Mr.Rajiv was due to explain the " Saturn Meteorite " and if they really

came from Saturn, but he maintained silence for a period of time to avoid any

questions from the group.

>

> Later, he skillfully changed the text of the " Saturn Meteorite " on his website

by publishing it has associated with Saturn.

>

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > MAYBE THE BELOW INPUT WILL BE HELPFUL...

> >

> > sacred-objects , Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharma@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Bala

> > >

> > > Agree to you and want to add few things

> > >

> > > 1. Can Prabhu Krishna Dasa ji can put a light on the nomenclature of

Saligram

> >

> > ---IT IS SHALAGRAM, a place on Krishna Gandaki, where the black-chakra

stones come from. I tried to find more meaning and I guess it means,

" Shala=shelter, " Gram " =village, the place they come from. But for what the

stones are SHALAGRAM also must be taken as a name of Vishnu or Krishna or Rama,

etc., Bhagavan. I worship Shalagram Shila since 1974. SHALAGRAM MEANS, BHAGAVAN,

THE PLACE OF SHELTER.

> >

> > > 2. And can also please also post the reference of higher mukhi

Rudraksha I mean the scan copy of the text (Katayani Puran or Tantra)

> > ---GOOD QUESTIONS

> >

> > and also request Dasa Ji to enlighten us on Saturn Shila as how you track

them as from what planet it is coming from? Or where it is tested to prove it

came from Saturn.

> >

> > ---DO YOU MEAN NAVARATNA? APART FROM MENTION OF 14 GEMS IN GARUDA PURANAM

AND SINGLE MENTION IN AGNI PURANA, AND FEW OTHERS, THERE IS NO ANCIENT LIST OF 9

PLANETARY GEMS. THIS CAME LATER, IN SUCH BOOKS AS BRIHAT-JATAK and also

JATAKA-PARIJATA (compiled at an unknown time) by Vaidyanath Dikshitar (Son of

Venkata-dhari) as verse 2/21. The same verse is repeated in Mani Mala, but under

a wrong heading. That is MM: page 575. Both state (translation) Use pure and

high-born (sujati + amala) ruby for Sun, (natural-real) Pearl for Moon, red

coral for Mars, emerald for Mercury, yellow sapphire for Jupiter, diamond for

Venus, blue sapphire for Saturn (Shani), and gomeda and cat's eye for the pair,

viz., Rahu and Ketu. HOW SAPPHIRE OF SHANI EFFECTS PEOPLE DEPENDS ON IF HE IS

FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE IN THE CHART OF ANYONE. IF HE IS UNFAVORABLE THEN

SAPPHIRE CAN BE DONATED IN " RATNA DAAN " TO IMPROVE, BUT USE OF BLUE SAPPHIRE IS

CONTRAINDICATED. ONLY IF SHANI IS FAVORABLE SHOULD ONE USE BLUE SAPPHIRE.

> >

> > > 3. Also request Panditji to post the scan copy of the mention of

Siyar Singi in the respective Tantra book please.

> > ---PLEASE

> >

> > > 4. Also request Panditji to post a scan copy of one mukhi Rudraksha

which is round.

> > ---It is on this group's photo gallery I think.

> >

> > Y/s, Richard

> >

> > >

> > > Thanks for your valuable time and please post your comment

> > >

> > > RAHULSHARMA

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 4/15/09, bala_songyi <balasongyi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > bala_songyi <balasongyi@>

> > > Re: siyar singhi

> > > sacred-objects

> > > Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 3:18 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit Arunjuna

> > >

> > > I agree with the author of this post below......

> > >

> > > Please kindly Xerox the particular pages of the Book you mentioned to

refer to Jackal horn. if you do have please make effort to xerox and scan the

pages and load it at this site as your did with Bristish Naturalist comments in

Ceylon.

> > >

> > > Otherwise it would appear as in the previous case of unknown book or

non-existent book ( 800 years old book in hindi, then in sanskrit on Rudraksha

higher mukhis) claimed to be in a family heritage ,but never even exhibited here

for learners/students to decide the validity. Simple hearsay....of so and so and

so....

> > >

> > > As to the following phrase to the Learned Moderator

> > > QUOTE " Pl remember Animal Product will remain Animal Product and the

basic nature of Animal product will be Tamsik and not Satvik. " UNQUOTE

> > >

> > > IF SO.......TAMSIK. .!!!!!, We must remove the the Very Essence of Gurada

Purana ( as helped in the translation into English Language by the Learned

Moderator)like Gaja Muktha, Boar Muktha, Whale Muktha, Fish Muktha and Naga

Muktha etc...either fossilized or Even deerskins as used by Bramanhas in homan

and meditations, and tiger skins for higher siddhi by sadhus, need to

re-written, in the Texts.

> > >

> > > Finally The entire Meteorite collectors/research scientists are awaiting

to aunthenicate SATURN SPAWN ROCKS THAT FELL AS METEORITES INTO OUR PLANET....as

we have only Venus planet geology information from Soviet Era Soyuz module

launched in 1980, but nothing is known about SATURN and its geology, only

hypothesis.

> > >

> > > The author of the below epost disappeared without an explaination, into

total WEB-Silence. ....

> > >

> > > This is realbalasongyi, not some prentender user this ID, and writing

rubbish about others.

> > >

> > > Cheers and Feliz Passcoa (Happy Easter)

> > >

> > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Krishna ,

> > > > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all

glories to all the devotees of the Lord.

> > > >

> > > > Prabhu I have not really heard of the book you have mentioned in your

mail for having text of

> > > > Siyar Singee. In my personal view animal product are 'Tamsik' in nature

and hence cannot bring a suden change in ones life. Also Siyar Singee is a

Tumour or cancer developed on the had of the Siyar (Jackal), so a tumour or

cancer like thing would bring happiness in ones life is very hard to believe.

Also it is hard to believe that a tumour falls of its own from the head of the

Siyar and siyar remains alive after that, this too is hard to believe.

> > > > Also as such you are mentioning that these are abundantly available as

FAKE in the market, so it is more certain that the Siyars must be killed to take

out hair and skin to make the fake Siyar Singee. So ultimately Siyar 's life is

a stake.

> > > > I would request all to desist selling of animal products in this pious

forum Sacred Object Group' and that too the Tantrik items which does not have

any reference from Indian mythological books. Also I would request Mr. Richard

to avoid publishing of these types of mails.

> > > > Pl remember Animal Product will remain Animal Product and the basic

nature of Animal product will be Tamsik and not Satvik. As per several Puranas

Tamsik nature will give rise to greed and unhumanly behaviour in the humans,

which is defeating the very objective of cresating this forum.

> > > >

> > > > I hope this will help,

> > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha

> > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His

> > > > devotees. Have a Nice Day,

> > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > Haribol,

> > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,

> > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM

> > > > 00 91 9322646421

> > > > 0091 22 24459616

> > > > salagram8@ .

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>

> > > > Re: siyar singhi

> > > > sacred-objects

> > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 11:52 AM

> > > >

> > > > dear dasaji

> > > >

> > > > siyar singhi is an animal item and hence its reference is found mostly

or only in tantra books.

> > > >

> > > > you may be already aware that in vedas and puranas it is recommended

that brahmins, sages, saints and all pontiffs invariably used to possess a deer

or tiger skin. but mere scriptural recommendation of the animal skin has not

stopped the indian government from banning the deer skin and tiger skin and you

or i cannot sell deer or tiger skin in india just because we find some

scriptural recommendation or reference in puranas.

> > > >

> > > > have read about siyar singhi in many tantra books and one british

historian recording of its known benefits from srilanka was already shared in

the group.

> > > >

> > > > for reference from tantra books which you asked specifically, there is a

full page description of siyar singhi in the book mantra maharnavam, tritiya

khand, 25th chapter.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Arjun ji,

> > > > > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga,

all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prabhu in which Tantra or Mythologican book the benefits of Siyar

Singi is written ????

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope this will help,

> > > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha

> > > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His

> > > > > devotees. Have a Nice Day,

> > > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > > Haribol,

> > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,

> > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM

> > > > > 00 91 9322646421

> > > > > 0091 22 24459616

> > > > > salagram8@ .

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>

> > > > > Re: siyar singhi

> > > > > sacred-objects

> > > > > Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:29 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friend

> > > > >

> > > > > it seems you misunderstood my narration of benefits of siyarsinghi.

> > > > >

> > > > > it can be obtained by grihasthas and normal people if they have any of

the requirements mentioned in the mail such as protection of monies against

robbers, protection against visible and invisible enemies, ensuring victories in

legal cases, protection against evil eye, evil possession and other prayogas

etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects, " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks Arjun Ji

> > > > > > It seems that it is a thing for the Taantrik or occultists.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Sushma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear friend

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > firstly, plese note that this is not a gem or a rudraksha and is a

tantrik item that too of an animal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the need or use of this is not determined by the horoscope. for

your convenience, the benefits of this siyar singhi are mentioned below and only

those people desirous of these benefits or results require this:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the jackal horn grows on its own and the hair on it keep growing

which is a miracle even to today's science. a person holding jackal horn feels

life in it and it looks soft and the hair on it gets combed to a side on its own

naturally.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the first benefit of having a jackal horn is that it keeps all

evils at bay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the second benefit of jackal horn is that it returns any black

magic or evil eye.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the third benefit of jackal horn is that it keeps enemies at bay

from the place it is kept.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the fourth benefit of jackal horn is that if it is kept in the

safe locker or where precious money and jewellery is kept, it keeps robbers

away.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the fifth benefit of jackal horn is that it helps the native win

legal cases in a court of law easily over his enemies.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > any occult practioner or tantrik especially exorcists must have

this jackal horn with them. members may like to know that with the help of

jackal horn, i did exorcisms and it helps the exorcist a lot.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you may also refer my message number 6616 of this group where the

usage and benefits of this is narrated by a british historian.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sacred-objects, " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Pt Arjun Ji

> > > > > > > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have been reading about Siyaar Singee lately in this Group.

Could you tell us how one should know that one should have this? What does it

do? Is it horoscope wise?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With regards

> > > > > > > > Sushma

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear friend

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > a genuine singhi never dies as it has life in it forever.

notwithstanding the hardness or softness at the core, one shall look at the life

in the singhi which is of paramount significance. one way to check the life is

to see and feel the new grown hair. recently have got a singhi whose core or

base is as hard as rock but the new hair grown is akin to a miracle of finding

fresh green grass all round a rock.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > since the singhi is now available at an affordable price

compared to earlier, you may prefer to get a new singhi full of life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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April 21, 2009

Hare Krishna, Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.

Prabhu to have discussion on a particular subject, you need to have some bare minimum knowledge. I have taken the extract from our ancient Religious Mythological books. But I donot want to display all my research in this forum. If someone has doubt pl do contact me personally and I shall help him fully.

After reading NASA research papers in google you can gain only half and superficial knowledge, and not that much which can give you confidence to have discussions Prabhu.

You remained in doubt about the texts of 15 Mukhi Rudrakshas and above.. When I had given you some reference then you told you believe only in Shiva Purana and no Tantras about Rudrakshas. So one cannot expect to have every thing written on only Shiva Purana Prabhu. Now also if I give you text of Saturn Meteorite quoting some Tantra, then also you will have same arguement, so no point. Rather I am not interested in sharing my research at all. About Nav Durgas most of the deeper text about their power you will find in Tantras, so that does not mean that since not much is mentioned in Shiva Puranas or Devi Bhagvatam or any other comman book about Nav Dirgas so, Nav Durgas is a Myth.

So please broaden your horizon Prabhu. Pl stop drilling holes on Rudrakshas. Pl ask me where there is a legitimate text of Siyar Singee written in Hindu Mythological book. You been talking about this animal product so much in this forum. When I asked some reference then you quoted some book, which is not from Hindu MYTHOLOGY. I can tell you the legitimate reference of Siyar Singee from Hindy Mythological text.

Prabhu have you ever opened a original Siyar Singee and seen what is inside ??

I mean have you disected so called Siyar Singee and seen what is inside. If you have seen pl do let me know. Just by keeping the Siyar Singee in vermilion and thinking that the hair are growing does not make the Siyar Singee original Prabhu. Any ways I shall order one Siyar Singee from you for my research.

Pl take out the picture of Eka Mukhi you are showing on your website, this is an underdeveloped 4 or 5 Mukhi bead. I can prove that. Eka Mukhi is a Chamatkari bead even in Kalyuga Prabhu.

Anyways, I think I have shared my views on few topics.

I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8--- On Sun, 19/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 saturn shilasacred-objects Date: Sunday, 19 April, 2009, 4:50 PM

dear friendsgenerally, am never bothered about what ohters sell but since your mail has come in my thread of siyar singhi, out of curiosity visited your link and this is what you mentioned in the site:--------quote- -------The meteorites that falls on the Earth surface are primarily from moon, mars and Saturn planets. The meteorite is extremely rare and priced very highly due to its inherent properties to bless devotee with immense wealth, worldly comforts, protect him from malefic effects of Saturn planet, immense peace of mind and extreme protection against sudden accidents and thefts. So worship of meteorite definitely eases the malefic effects of planet Saturn.--------unquote- -----you clearly and deliberately mentioned that the meteorites are PRIMARILY FROM MOON, MARS AND SATURN.since i am not a scientist, have requested a scientist of mine who works in NASA and he clearly stated that all meteors recorded

either as fall or find anywhere on earth have come from the debris in the space of the earth (earth) and/or from moon and in few cases from mars too. according to him, moon and mars are the only planets (known to NASA) from where meteor stones have reached earth till date. receipt of a meteor on planet earth from the FARTHEST PLANET SATURN is a big joke according to him who also says that there is not a single heard or recorded find or fall of a meteor from planet saturn on earth.when objected by knowledgeable members like balasongyi and others, the poster is now taking a U turn by first calling the meteor stones as PRIMARILY COMING FROM SATURN and now saying that they are only associated with planet saturn and that he never said that they were from planet saturn.english knowing members may kindly elucidate that "PRIMARILY FROM MOON, MARS AND SATURN" denotes and connotes the source as coming from planet moon, mars and saturn. can this

sentence be converted to "ASSOCIATED WITH SATURN". is this a confusion or change of source?with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:>> > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.> > Prabhu there is a good amount of confusion is going on about the Saturn Shila. I want to clarify that we are talking about the association of Planet Saturn with the meteorites. In this context we have quoted the greatness of Shani Sheengnapur temple where the main diety is a Meteorite. That does not mean that these

meteorites have come from planet Saturn. > I shall make the text more clear on my website in few days time since I am travelling.> > I hope this will help,> Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha> I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His> devotees. Have a Nice Day,> Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> 00 91 9322646421> 0091 22 24459616> salagram8@.. .> > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, krish667777 <krish667777@ ...> wrote:> > > krish667777 <krish667777@ ...>> Re: siyar singhi, etc...> sacred-objects>

Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 6:45 AM> > > > > > > > > QUOTE "and also request Dasa Ji to enlighten us on Saturn Shila as how you track them as from what planet it is coming from? Or where it is tested to prove it came from Saturn.> > DO YOU MEAN NAVARATNA? UNQUOTE> > NO!!! Mr.Rajiv was due to explain the "Saturn Meteorite" and if they really came from Saturn, but he maintained silence for a period of time to avoid any questions from the group.> > Later, he skillfully changed the text of the "Saturn Meteorite" on his website by publishing it has associated with Saturn.> > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > MAYBE THE BELOW INPUT WILL BE HELPFUL...> > > > sacred-objects, Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharma@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Hello Bala> > > > > > Agree to you and want to add few things> > > > > > 1. Can Prabhu Krishna Dasa ji can put a light on the nomenclature of Saligram> > > > ---IT IS SHALAGRAM, a place on Krishna Gandaki, where the black-chakra stones come from. I tried to find more meaning and I guess it means, "Shala=shelter, "Gram"=village, the place they come from. But for what the stones are SHALAGRAM also must be taken as a name of Vishnu or Krishna or Rama, etc., Bhagavan. I worship Shalagram Shila since 1974. SHALAGRAM MEANS, BHAGAVAN, THE PLACE OF SHELTER.> > > > > 2. And can also please also post the reference of higher mukhi Rudraksha I mean the scan copy of the text (Katayani Puran or Tantra)> > ---GOOD QUESTIONS> >

> > and also request Dasa Ji to enlighten us on Saturn Shila as how you track them as from what planet it is coming from? Or where it is tested to prove it came from Saturn.> > > > ---DO YOU MEAN NAVARATNA? APART FROM MENTION OF 14 GEMS IN GARUDA PURANAM AND SINGLE MENTION IN AGNI PURANA, AND FEW OTHERS, THERE IS NO ANCIENT LIST OF 9 PLANETARY GEMS. THIS CAME LATER, IN SUCH BOOKS AS BRIHAT-JATAK and also JATAKA-PARIJATA (compiled at an unknown time) by Vaidyanath Dikshitar (Son of Venkata-dhari) as verse 2/21. The same verse is repeated in Mani Mala, but under a wrong heading. That is MM: page 575. Both state (translation) Use pure and high-born (sujati + amala) ruby for Sun, (natural-real) Pearl for Moon, red coral for Mars, emerald for Mercury, yellow sapphire for Jupiter, diamond for Venus, blue sapphire for Saturn (Shani), and gomeda and cat's eye for the pair, viz., Rahu and Ketu. HOW SAPPHIRE OF SHANI EFFECTS PEOPLE

DEPENDS ON IF HE IS FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE IN THE CHART OF ANYONE. IF HE IS UNFAVORABLE THEN SAPPHIRE CAN BE DONATED IN "RATNA DAAN" TO IMPROVE, BUT USE OF BLUE SAPPHIRE IS CONTRAINDICATED. ONLY IF SHANI IS> FAVORABLE SHOULD ONE USE BLUE SAPPHIRE.> > > > > 3. Also request Panditji to post the scan copy of the mention of Siyar Singi in the respective Tantra book please.> > ---PLEASE> > > > > 4. Also request Panditji to post a scan copy of one mukhi Rudraksha which is round.> > ---It is on this group's photo gallery I think.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > > > > > > Thanks for your valuable time and please post your comment> > >> > >> > >> > > RAHULSHARMA> > >> > > --- On Wed,

4/15/09, bala_songyi <balasongyi@ > wrote:> > >> > > bala_songyi <balasongyi@ >> > > Re: siyar singhi> > > sacred-objects> > > Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 3:18 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Pandit Arunjuna> > >> > > I agree with the author of this post below......> > >> > > Please kindly Xerox the particular pages of the Book you mentioned to refer to Jackal horn. if you do have please make effort to xerox and scan the pages and load it at this site as your did with Bristish Naturalist comments in Ceylon.> > >> > > Otherwise it would appear as in the previous case of unknown book or non-existent book ( 800

years old book in hindi, then in sanskrit on Rudraksha higher mukhis) claimed to be in a family heritage ,but never even exhibited here for learners/students to decide the validity. Simple hearsay....of so and so and so....> > >> > > As to the following phrase to the Learned Moderator> > > QUOTE " Pl remember Animal Product will remain Animal Product and the basic nature of Animal product will be Tamsik and not Satvik." UNQUOTE> > >> > > IF SO.......TAMSIK. .!!!!!, We must remove the the Very Essence of Gurada Purana ( as helped in the translation into English Language by the Learned Moderator)like Gaja Muktha, Boar Muktha, Whale Muktha, Fish Muktha and Naga Muktha etc...either fossilized or Even deerskins as used by Bramanhas in homan and meditations, and tiger skins for higher siddhi by sadhus, need to re-written, in the Texts.> > >> > > Finally The entire

Meteorite collectors/research scientists are awaiting to aunthenicate SATURN SPAWN ROCKS THAT FELL AS METEORITES INTO OUR PLANET....as we have only Venus planet geology information from Soviet Era Soyuz module launched in 1980, but nothing is known about SATURN and its geology, only hypothesis.> > >> > > The author of the below epost disappeared without an explaination, into total WEB-Silence. ....> > >> > > This is realbalasongyi, not some prentender user this ID, and writing rubbish about others.> > >> > > Cheers and Feliz Passcoa (Happy Easter)> > >> > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ....> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare Krishna ,> > > > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories

to all the devotees of the Lord.> > > >> > > > Prabhu I have not really heard of the book you have mentioned in your mail for having text of> > > > Siyar Singee. In my personal view animal product are 'Tamsik' in nature and hence cannot bring a suden change in ones life. Also Siyar Singee is a Tumour or cancer developed on the had of the Siyar (Jackal), so a tumour or cancer like thing would bring happiness in ones life is very hard to believe. Also it is hard to believe that a tumour falls of its own from the head of the Siyar and siyar remains alive after that, this too is hard to believe.> > > > Also as such you are mentioning that these are abundantly available as FAKE in the market, so it is more certain that the Siyars must be killed to take out hair and skin to make the fake Siyar Singee. So ultimately Siyar 's life is a stake.> > > > I would request all to

desist selling of animal products in this pious forum Sacred Object Group' and that too the Tantrik items which does not have any reference from Indian mythological books. Also I would request Mr. Richard to avoid publishing of these types of mails.> > > > Pl remember Animal Product will remain Animal Product and the basic nature of Animal product will be Tamsik and not Satvik. As per several Puranas Tamsik nature will give rise to greed and unhumanly behaviour in the humans, which is defeating the very objective of cresating this forum.> > > >> > > > I hope this will help,> > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha> > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His> > > > devotees. Have a Nice Day,> > > > Thanks and Regards,> > > > Haribol,> > > > Rajiv Krishna

Dasa,> > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > > > 00 91 9322646421> > > > 0091 22 24459616> > > > salagram8@ .> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>> > > > Re: siyar singhi> > > > sacred-objects> > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 11:52 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dear dasaji> > > >> > > > siyar singhi is an animal item and hence its reference is found mostly or only in tantra books.> >

> >> > > > you may be already aware that in vedas and puranas it is recommended that brahmins, sages, saints and all pontiffs invariably used to possess a deer or tiger skin. but mere scriptural recommendation of the animal skin has not stopped the indian government from banning the deer skin and tiger skin and you or i cannot sell deer or tiger skin in india just because we find some scriptural recommendation or reference in puranas.> > > >> > > > have read about siyar singhi in many tantra books and one british historian recording of its known benefits from srilanka was already shared in the group.> > > >> > > > for reference from tantra books which you asked specifically, there is a full page description of siyar singhi in the book mantra maharnavam, tritiya khand, 25th chapter.> > > >> > > > with best wishes and blessings>

> > > pandit arjun> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > >> > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Arjun ji,> > > > > Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.> > > > >> > > > > Prabhu in which Tantra or Mythologican book the benefits of Siyar Singi is written ????> > > > >> > > > > I hope this will help,> > > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha> > > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His> > > > > devotees. Have a Nice Day,> > > >

> Thanks and Regards,> > > > > Haribol,> > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > > > > 00 91 9322646421> > > > > 0091 22 24459616> > > > > salagram8@ .> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>> > > > > Re: siyar singhi> > > > > sacred-objects> > > > > Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:29 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >

> > >> > > > > dear friend> > > > >> > > > > it seems you misunderstood my narration of benefits of siyarsinghi.> > > > >> > > > > it can be obtained by grihasthas and normal people if they have any of the requirements mentioned in the mail such as protection of monies against robbers, protection against visible and invisible enemies, ensuring victories in legal cases, protection against evil eye, evil possession and other prayogas etc.> > > > >> > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > >> > > > > sacred-objects, "bhagvatjee" <bhagvatjee@ ....> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks Arjun Ji> > >

> > > It seems that it is a thing for the Taantrik or occultists.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Sushma> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear friend> > > > > > >> > > > > > > firstly, plese note that this is not a gem or a rudraksha and is a tantrik item that too of an animal.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the need or use of this is not determined by the horoscope. for your convenience, the benefits of this siyar singhi are mentioned below and only those people desirous of these benefits or results require this:> > > > > > >> > > > >

> > the jackal horn grows on its own and the hair on it keep growing which is a miracle even to today's science. a person holding jackal horn feels life in it and it looks soft and the hair on it gets combed to a side on its own naturally.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the first benefit of having a jackal horn is that it keeps all evils at bay.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the second benefit of jackal horn is that it returns any black magic or evil eye.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the third benefit of jackal horn is that it keeps enemies at bay from the place it is kept.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the fourth benefit of jackal horn is that if it is kept in the safe locker or where precious money and jewellery is kept, it keeps robbers away.> > >

> > > >> > > > > > > the fifth benefit of jackal horn is that it helps the native win legal cases in a court of law easily over his enemies.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > any occult practioner or tantrik especially exorcists must have this jackal horn with them. members may like to know that with the help of jackal horn, i did exorcisms and it helps the exorcist a lot.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > you may also refer my message number 6616 of this group where the usage and benefits of this is narrated by a british historian.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In

sacred-objects, "bhagvatjee" <bhagvatjee@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Pt Arjun Ji> > > > > > > > Jaya Siyaa Raam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have been reading about Siyaar Singee lately in this Group. Could you tell us how one should know that one should have this? What does it do? Is it horoscope wise?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > With regards> > > > > > > > Sushma> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:> > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear friend> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > a genuine singhi never dies as it has life in it forever. notwithstanding the hardness or softness at the core, one shall look at the life in the singhi which is of paramount significance. one way to check the life is to see and feel the new grown hair. recently have got a singhi whose core or base is as hard as rock but the new hair grown is akin to a miracle of finding fresh green grass all round a rock.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > since the singhi is now available at an affordable price compared to earlier, you may prefer to get a new singhi full of life.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > >

> > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

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