My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

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Dear Kishore,Bhagavan and His unlimited shaktis, such as spiritual shakti (Vaikuntha), his jiva shakti (us), and his material shakti (Maya) have always been in existance. There was never a beginning. It is sanatan, always like this. If there is no beginning, then where is the question of WHY? The only question of WHY is why are YOU here? You have the power to choose Sadhana and exit this maya at death. So ask yourself WHY you are here?Y/s,RichardRichard Shaw Brown, PGMusician, Designer, Gemologist & Authorwww.richardshawbrown.com--- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian wrote:kishore kishore <mydearindianMy question still asking me..do u have answer?.rsbj66Date: Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AMDear Brother Richard, Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

 

 

Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you can clear it then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living saint who can clear my question.

 

Below is my same old question.

Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of all different religions did not tell why God wanted to create this universe?

 

In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending. He says he is everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that much complicated? What is his origin.

Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can I accept him as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If you think my question is non-sense then kindly let me know in which way it is non-sense.

In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that material sense is non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he did not explain why Lord created people and universe and what is his motto behind this universe. I appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But did God tell Bharat anything about his origin?

If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own happiness then how can I understand him? If creating a false game is his happieness then how can I pray him and in which way I must understand him.

1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme Lord? Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna simply agreed? Well again why did he agree on it?

2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god did not kill the satan because he wants people to choose God with free will. I don’t understand this. If God killed Satan then every one would know only God. Just to recognize him he did not kill Satan. What kind of plan it is and why? No one knows. Is it not a selfish plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God here but still why God intended t create it.

3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He says if anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate world and if anyone does more good karma then there is a world of angels like that he kept on explaining his knowledge. But sad thing is he also did not explain why this many things created by God and what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment then why did he not tell about that secret.

4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearu†in tamil. I mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I come to know that I am a soul then also my question remains same. What is the need to create it (soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell and passed away, why?

I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is the main origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even a single sloka of Gita did not answer my question. My question is why Lord Krishna created all these things and what is the benefit he is going to get by creating all these things.

God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this universe but he keep telling in all scriptures that he is everything.

And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell and did not ask why their God had created this universe, instead of that everyone realized him and praised him only.

I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any scripture in this world which can answer my question?

If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I will try to explain my question again.

Have a nice & productive day,

With Best wishes, M.kishore.

 

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Actually the only way to know WHY Bhagavan created material energy, is to

perform Yoga, then enter Vaikuntha at death, meet with Bhagavan face to face,

and ask HIM. The only problem is that when you enter Vaikuntha and meet

Bhagavan, you will no longer remember Maya. Y/s, R-

 

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> NOTE: For those who think it " started " with this particular Brahmanda jagat,

that is not the point. The question is WHY did the PROCESS of existence

(spiritual world, endless material creations and dissolutions, and jivatma is

one or the other... this PROCESS is eternal, without beginning or end, SANATAN.

So the only " why " lay with us as to WHY do we remain in the material nature when

we are spiritual nature. There is NO WHY TO ETERNITY... Y/s, Richard

>

>

> sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kishore,

> >

> > Bhagavan and His unlimited shaktis, such as spiritual shakti (Vaikuntha),

his jiva shakti (us), and his material shakti (Maya) have always been in

existance. There was never a beginning. It is sanatan, always like this. If

there is no beginning, then where is the question of WHY? The only question of

WHY is why are YOU here? You have the power to choose Sadhana and exit this maya

at death. So ask yourself WHY you are here?

> >

> > Y/s,

> > Richard

> >

> >

> > Richard Shaw Brown, PG

> > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author

> > www.richardshawbrown.com

> >

> > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian@> wrote:

> >

> > kishore kishore <mydearindian@>

> > My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

> > rsbj66@

> > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AM

> >

> > Dear Brother Richard,

> >  

> > Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

> >  

> >  

> > Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you can clear

it then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living saint who can clear my

question.

> >  

> > Below is my same old question.

> >  

> > Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of all

different religions did not tell why God wanted to create this universe?

> >  

> > In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending. He says he

is everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that much complicated?

What is his origin.

> >  

> > Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can I accept

him as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If you think my

question is non-sense then kindly let me know in which way it is non-sense.

> >  

> > In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that material sense

is non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he did not explain why

Lord created people and universe and what is his motto behind this universe. I

appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But did God tell Bharat anything about his

origin?

> >  

> > If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own happiness then

how can I understand him? If creating a false game is his happieness then how

can I pray him and in which way I must understand him.

> >  

> > 1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme Lord?

Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna simply agreed?

Well again why did he agree on it?

> >  

> > 2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god did not kill

the satan because he wants people to choose God with free will. I don’t

understand this. If God killed Satan then every one would know only God. Just to

recognize him he did not kill Satan. What kind of plan it is and why? No one

knows. Is it not a selfish plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God

here but still why God intended t create it.

> >  

> > 3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He says if

anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate world and if anyone

does more good karma then there is a world of angels like that he kept on

explaining his knowledge. But sad thing is he also did not explain why this many

things created by God and what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment

then why did he not tell about that secret.

> >  

> > 4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearu†in tamil. I

mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I come to know that I

am a soul then also my question remains same. What is the need to create it

(soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell and passed away, why?

> >  

> >  

> >  

> > I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is the main

origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even a single sloka of

Gita did not answer my question. My question is why Lord Krishna created all

these things and what is the benefit he is going to get by creating all these

things.

> >  

> > God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this universe

but he keep telling in all scriptures that he is everything.

> >  

> > And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell and did not

ask why their God had created this universe, instead of that everyone realized

him and praised him only.

> >  

> > I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any scripture in this

world which can answer my question?

> >  

> > If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I will try

to explain my question again.

> >

> >

> > Have a nice & productive day,

> >

> > With Best wishes,

> > M.kishore.

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Dear Kishore Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

 

My son and I also have the same question. You are asking only about " Universe "

and we are asking actually about ourselves. I don't think anybody can answer

this question, not even any living saint. Why, because such as a poet writes any

poetry and only he knows why did he write that poetry, in the same way only God

knows why did He create this world and us in that world. So only He can answer

that, nobody else.

 

So aspire to meet God and ask HIM this first question that " Why did you create

this world and us in it? "

 

I have left asking this question from anybody.

With regards

Sushma

 

 

 

>

> --- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian wrote:

>

> kishore kishore <mydearindian

> My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

> rsbj66

> Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AM

>

> Dear Brother Richard,

>  

> Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

>  

>  

> Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you can clear it

then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living saint who can clear my

question.

>  

> Below is my same old question.

>  

> Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of all different

religions did not tell why God wanted to create this universe?

>  

> In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending. He says he is

everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that much complicated? What

is his origin.

>  

> Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can I accept him

as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If you think my question is

non-sense then kindly let me know in which way it is non-sense.

>  

> In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that material sense is

non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he did not explain why

Lord created people and universe and what is his motto behind this universe. I

appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But did God tell Bharat anything about his

origin?

>  

> If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own happiness then how

can I understand him? If creating a false game is his happieness then how can I

pray him and in which way I must understand him.

>  

> 1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme Lord?

Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna simply agreed?

Well again why did he agree on it?

>  

> 2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god did not kill

the satan because he wants people to choose God with free will. I don’t

understand this. If God killed Satan then every one would know only God. Just to

recognize him he did not kill Satan. What kind of plan it is and why? No one

knows. Is it not a selfish plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God

here but still why God intended t create it.

>  

> 3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He says if

anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate world and if anyone

does more good karma then there is a world of angels like that he kept on

explaining his knowledge. But sad thing is he also did not explain why this many

things created by God and what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment

then why did he not tell about that secret.

>  

> 4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearu†in tamil. I

mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I come to know that I

am a soul then also my question remains same. What is the need to create it

(soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell and passed away, why?

>  

>  

>  

> I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is the main

origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even a single sloka of

Gita did not answer my question. My question is why Lord Krishna created all

these things and what is the benefit he is going to get by creating all these

things.

>  

> God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this universe but

he keep telling in all scriptures that he is everything.

>  

> And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell and did not ask

why their God had created this universe, instead of that everyone realized him

and praised him only.

>  

> I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any scripture in this

world which can answer my question?

>  

> If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I will try to

explain my question again.

>

>

> Have a nice & productive day,

>

> With Best wishes,

> M.kishore.

>  

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**The Jews in Nazi murder camps; the Cambodians in Killing Fields; Rawanda, and

the like, could all ask WHY??? Why does God have such a horrible and bad

creation within Him. If God is everything then He must be also partly bad. That

could be a conclusion. (But it is not my conclusion).

 

Did Arjuna ask Lord Krishna in the Gita about Why? Why did he not ask Bhagavan

face to face, WHY?

 

Does God have an evil aspect? Does He create bad-guys just for the fun of

killing them? Is Maya God's " shooting gallery " ? Too bad that a lot of good

people get killed in the process. In fact ALL GOOD PEOPLE are killed by

Maya-kala-chakra, along with all bad people. That is the process of birth and

death and rebirth. But WHY this " process " ?

 

If God created evil, and He is everything, and everything in Him, then He is

responsible and to blame? Is He partly evil?

 

Krishna told Arjuna that evil was caused by Rajo-guna.. (kama-esha kroda-esha

rajo-guna samudbhavam! - by lust and anger caused by Raja guna. So Arjuna knew

what was cause of evil. Maya is like a gun, it cannot shoot by itself. But why

God created " foolish souls " in bondage of Maya? If one creates evil then they

are responsible for it?

Like Dr. Frankenstein created an evil monster (just for fun) in a fictional

attempt to imitate God (by creating life) in the material world.

 

Y/s,

R-

 

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> This reply could easily raise 3 issues:

>

> 1) Why did God create " foolish souls " ? That seems to be a foolish and faulty

creation!

>

> 2) In self-realization, what is the use or utility of asking an impossible

question: " WHY " is God's creation?*/**

>

> 3) If someone knew the answer as to WHY, would that knowledge change their

predicament as " baddha-jiva " ?

>

> Years ago I asked my Guru " Why did God create Maya, and let the Jivas be

trapped " ? (it seems to be a childish and cruel process).

>

> He said,

> 1) God did NOT create Maya. Maya is part of God as one of His Shaktis. God is

eternal and Maya is eternal, sometimes manifest (Koti-Brahmanda), sometimes

dormant (mahat-tattva) but there is NO beginning to this reality or process. If

there is no beginning then WHY? is not an issue.

>

> *Note: If you ask WHY to Lord Brahma, the creator of THIS Brahmanda. he will

pass the buck to Lord Krishna. And Lord Krishna might reply, " Why not? "

>

> **The Jews in Nazi murder camps; the Cambodians in Killing Fields; Rawanda,

and the like, could all ask WHY???

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> Y/s,

>

> sacred-objects , David Sherk <gadaidasa@> wrote:

> >

> > Hari bol   Lord Sri Krishna created the innumerable material universes 

as various prisons for foolish souls like us.  As you are asking this

intelligent question, soon you will be paroled back to the spiritual world.  

Jaya Sri Chaitanya                Gadai

> > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

> > Re: My question still asking me..do u have

answer?.

> > sacred-objects

> > Sunday, March 29, 2009, 1:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kishore Ji

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> >

> > My son and I also have the same question. You are asking only about

" Universe " and we are asking actually about ourselves. I don't think anybody can

answer this question, not even any living saint. Why, because such as a poet

writes any poetry and only he knows why did he write that poetry, in the same

way only God knows why did He create this world and us in that world. So only He

can answer that, nobody else.

> >

> > So aspire to meet God and ask HIM this first question that " Why did you

create this world and us in it? "

> >

> > I have left asking this question from anybody.

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...>

> > > My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

> > > rsbj66@

> > > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Brother Richard,

> > >  

> > > Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you can

clear it then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living saint who can

clear my question.

> > >  

> > > Below is my same old question.

> > >  

> > > Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of all

different religions did not tell why God wanted to create this universe?

> > >  

> > > In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending. He says he

is everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that much complicated?

What is his origin.

> > >  

> > > Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can I accept

him as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If you think my

question is non-sense then kindly let me know in which way it is non-sense.

> > >  

> > > In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that material sense

is non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he did not explain why

Lord created people and universe and what is his motto behind this universe. I

appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But did God tell Bharat anything about his

origin?

> > >  

> > > If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own happiness then

how can I understand him? If creating a false game is his happieness then how

can I pray him and in which way I must understand him.

> > >  

> > > 1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme Lord?

Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna simply agreed?

Well again why did he agree on it?

> > >  

> > > 2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god did not

kill the satan because he wants people to choose God with free will. I don’t

understand this. If God killed Satan then every one would know only God. Just to

recognize him he did not kill Satan. What kind of plan it is and why? No one

knows. Is it not a selfish plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God

here but still why God intended t create it.

> > >  

> > > 3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He says if

anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate world and if anyone

does more good karma then there is a world of angels like that he kept on

explaining his knowledge. But sad thing is he also did not explain why this many

things created by God and what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment

then why did he not tell about that secret.

> > >  

> > > 4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearu†in tamil.

I mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I come to know that

I am a soul then also my question remains same. What is the need to create it

(soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell and passed away, why?

> > >  

> > >  

> > >  

> > > I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is the main

origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even a single sloka of

Gita did not answer my question. My question is why Lord Krishna created all

these things and what is the benefit he is going to get by creating all these

things.

> > >  

> > > God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this universe

but he keep telling in all scriptures that he is everything.

> > >  

> > > And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell and did not

ask why their God had created this universe, instead of that everyone realized

him and praised him only.

> > >  

> > > I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any scripture in this

world which can answer my question?

> > >  

> > > If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I will try

to explain my question again.

> > >

> > >

> > > Have a nice & productive day,

> > >

> > > With Best wishes,

> > > M.kishore.

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The Sefer Bahir (“Book of Brightness,†ca. 12th century), the earliest

articulation of what later came to be called Kabbalah, declares in a parable

that when the king began building his palace (that is, when God began creating

the world), a spring gushed forth. When he saw the spring, he said, “I will

plant a garden, then I will delight (or “playâ€) in it, I and the whole

world†(§ 5, Kaplan 1989: 3). Creation is seemingly both God’s act of

delight or play, and a gift of delight to all the creatures.

The playful garden that the king planted is described later in the Bahir

as the Tree of Life. This Cosmic Tree is defined in later Kabbalah as a

particular pattern called the Sefirot (singular: Sefirah), which are together

the image of God, or what Gershom Scholem (1991) called “the mystical shape of

the Godhead.†The Sefirot are regarded alternatively as divine attributes,

essence, emanations, instruments or vessels; different perspectives are

emphasized by different kabbalists. The kabbalists in general found God by

tracing back the pattern of God’s unfoldment (to borrow David Bohm’s term)

through the levels of emanation, from one Sefirah to the next, and from one

world to the next. These levels represent the way in which divine energies such

as love and judgment, male and female, hidden and manifest, and so on, are

balanced and made manifest. Everything has within it the essence and image of

those supernal levels. The unifying concept

in Kabbalah is that the structure of each “holon†manifests the Sefirot and

so bears witness to the image of God. (“Holon†is Ken Wilber’s term for

the way the nature of every being reflects the whole of what he calls “the

Kosmos.â€) At each level and within each entity, the kabbalists saw the pattern

of the Sefirot in a manner that we might call fractal or holographic.

 

Holism.

 

Kabbalah embraced a holistic view of the universe which called for the expansion

of divinity into the physical world. Kabbalah represents the theological science

(in the medieval sense of the term) that draws all the worlds, including

dimensions of God and Nature, into one realm, one whole. “Implicit [in

Kabbalah] is a notion of sacred cosmology. . . . The kabbalists’ faith

involves a hierarchy of worlds that are ontologically higher than the material

world†(Krassen 1999: 137). The work of the kabbalist is to draw the higher

worlds into the lower and to unite the lower with the higher.

This tendency is most pronounced in the radical cosmogony that some

texts propose: The universe is regarded as the shards of an original creation

that shattered while it was still in the realm of the divine, carrying

“sparks†of divinity into what became the physical realm. Each of these

sparks is some part of the divine that has been alienated from its root. Human

beings provide the vehicle to repair this brokenness and reunite the sparks with

the whole. Equally important, the process that begins creation is understood to

be a contraction of God, called tzimtzum, which makes space for the world to

emerge. Isaac Luria (1534-1572, Palestine) in particular used images of birth to

describe this process, suggesting quite literally that the universe or Nature is

somehow commensurable with God and birthed by God in the way that a child is

with its mother.

These tropes teach that the human purpose in Creation is to unify all

realms of being with and within the divine. The kavanot or opening incantations

that kabbalists added to their prayers expressed this purpose: “for the sake

of the unification of the Holy One and the Shekhinah (indwelling presence).â€

One of the most beautiful expressions of this idea is found in the remarkable

opening prayer of the original Tu biSh’vat seder (a kabbalistic ritual meal in

honor of the Mishnaic New Year for the trees, interpreted as the cosmic Tree),

which is found in the book Chemdat Yamim (“Treasure of Daysâ€, 17th cent.):

 

O God who makes, and shapes, and creates, and emanates the upper worlds, and in

their form and pattern you created their model on the earth below; You made them

all with wisdom, upper ones above and lower ones below, to join together the

tent to become one . . . . And this day is the beginning of your works, to ripen

and renew . . . . May it be Your will that the merit of our eating the fruit,

and meditating on the secret of their roots above, you will bless them, flowing

over them the flow of desire and energy, to make them grow and bloom, for good

and for blessing, for good life and for peace . . . . And may the Whole return

now to its original strength . . . and may all the sparks that were scattered by

our hands, or by the hands of our ancestors, or by the sin of the first human

against the fruit of the tree, be returned to sustain in might and majesty the

Tree of Life. “Then the trees of the forest will sing out,†and the tree of

the field will

raise a branch and make fruit . . . (translated and abridged by the author; for

a complete

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Let me attempt your question no.1 with my tiny ability.

Question is-1) Why did God create " foolish souls " ? That seems to be a foolish

and faulty creation!

 

A.INfect there is No foolish souls in this universe,all souls one day will end

their journey of birth and rebirth cycle,those who keep taking birth are because

of Karmas they did present and in past,the day washing process will be over

their journey of entering into foolish body shell will end.Pralays is nothing

but a tripping switch of God,the day he feels that game is over pralaya will

come,in difficult time we have seen all soulds act with unity ex.floods,quakes.I

have seen worst people start crying in natural calamities and offer his help to

others,moment troubles are over we find same cruel guy again(this you too must

have experenced).I am not devotess like other members but I feel that foolish

souls we see around are not born foolish but turned foolish due to their

karmas.God's quality control is top class,have you seen any living person eating

with ear and watching with nose?Nupe-why?If God can maintain his quality control

in shells(body)no way he can maipulate the machine(soul)inside the body,our eyes

are faulty to see someone as foolish.Only Sthitpragya can see equal and we are

not Sthitpragya.

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> This reply could easily raise 3 issues:

>

> 1) Why did God create " foolish souls " ? That seems to be a foolish and faulty

creation!

>

> 2) In self-realization, what is the use or utility of asking an impossible

question: " WHY " is God's creation?*/**

>

> 3) If someone knew the answer as to WHY, would that knowledge change their

predicament as " baddha-jiva " ?

>

> Years ago I asked my Guru " Why did God create Maya, and let the Jivas be

trapped " ? (it seems to be a childish and cruel process).

>

> He said,

> 1) God did NOT create Maya. Maya is part of God as one of His Shaktis. God is

eternal and Maya is eternal, sometimes manifest (Koti-Brahmanda), sometimes

dormant (mahat-tattva) but there is NO beginning to this reality or process. If

there is no beginning then WHY? is not an issue.

>

> *Note: If you ask WHY to Lord Brahma, the creator of THIS Brahmanda. he will

pass the buck to Lord Krishna. And Lord Krishna might reply, " Why not? "

>

> **The Jews in Nazi murder camps; the Cambodians in Killing Fields; Rawanda,

and the like, could all ask WHY???

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> Y/s,

>

> sacred-objects , David Sherk <gadaidasa@> wrote:

> >

> > Hari bol   Lord Sri Krishna created the innumerable material universes 

as various prisons for foolish souls like us.  As you are asking this

intelligent question, soon you will be paroled back to the spiritual world.  

Jaya Sri Chaitanya                Gadai

> > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

> > Re: My question still asking me..do u have

answer?.

> > sacred-objects

> > Sunday, March 29, 2009, 1:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kishore Ji

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> >

> > My son and I also have the same question. You are asking only about

" Universe " and we are asking actually about ourselves. I don't think anybody can

answer this question, not even any living saint. Why, because such as a poet

writes any poetry and only he knows why did he write that poetry, in the same

way only God knows why did He create this world and us in that world. So only He

can answer that, nobody else.

> >

> > So aspire to meet God and ask HIM this first question that " Why did you

create this world and us in it? "

> >

> > I have left asking this question from anybody.

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...>

> > > My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

> > > rsbj66@

> > > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Brother Richard,

> > >  

> > > Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you can

clear it then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living saint who can

clear my question.

> > >  

> > > Below is my same old question.

> > >  

> > > Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of all

different religions did not tell why God wanted to create this universe?

> > >  

> > > In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending. He says he

is everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that much complicated?

What is his origin.

> > >  

> > > Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can I accept

him as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If you think my

question is non-sense then kindly let me know in which way it is non-sense.

> > >  

> > > In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that material sense

is non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he did not explain why

Lord created people and universe and what is his motto behind this universe. I

appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But did God tell Bharat anything about his

origin?

> > >  

> > > If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own happiness then

how can I understand him? If creating a false game is his happieness then how

can I pray him and in which way I must understand him.

> > >  

> > > 1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme Lord?

Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna simply agreed?

Well again why did he agree on it?

> > >  

> > > 2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god did not

kill the satan because he wants people to choose God with free will. I don’t

understand this. If God killed Satan then every one would know only God. Just to

recognize him he did not kill Satan. What kind of plan it is and why? No one

knows. Is it not a selfish plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God

here but still why God intended t create it.

> > >  

> > > 3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He says if

anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate world and if anyone

does more good karma then there is a world of angels like that he kept on

explaining his knowledge. But sad thing is he also did not explain why this many

things created by God and what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment

then why did he not tell about that secret.

> > >  

> > > 4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearu†in tamil.

I mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I come to know that

I am a soul then also my question remains same. What is the need to create it

(soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell and passed away, why?

> > >  

> > >  

> > >  

> > > I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is the main

origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even a single sloka of

Gita did not answer my question. My question is why Lord Krishna created all

these things and what is the benefit he is going to get by creating all these

things.

> > >  

> > > God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this universe

but he keep telling in all scriptures that he is everything.

> > >  

> > > And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell and did not

ask why their God had created this universe, instead of that everyone realized

him and praised him only.

> > >  

> > > I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any scripture in this

world which can answer my question?

> > >  

> > > If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I will try

to explain my question again.

> > >

> > >

> > > Have a nice & productive day,

> > >

> > > With Best wishes,

> > > M.kishore.

> > >  

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>

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>yes that may be so.i don't think the no. is important,rather the

direction of the mind.if one is walking the wrong direction,filling one's

mind with irrelevant second hand knowledge and ideas to understanding

truth,one will not have the space of mind to have any realisations .

in the case of Lord Buddha,obviously he attained to supreme enlightenment

by walking the true path and by asking the right questions.from my

understanding, the Buddha wanted to find a way to overcome suffering and

to free the mind of defilements by purification.

so the question such as what is the cause of suffering and how to overcome

suffering were paramount.

i don't really think Sakyamuni was concerned about marketing or politics

at all.

regards

terry

The 14 wrong questions; the 10 commandments; the top 10, 3 types of

> suffering, all these numbers. It's just religious marketing hype that is

> ultimately political agenda to control people. Why not 15 wrong questions?

> Why not 13 wrong questions? Why 14? Why 10? Why 9? Why 3? Why 1? It's all

> marketing hype and politics of Maya concocted by religious marketeers from

> the past who are politicians. That's my opinion.

>

> sacred-objects , twit wrote:

>>

>> >the wrong questions; These 14 pronouncements which were declared by the

>> Kinsman of the Sun to be inexpressible in the world are not conjusive to

>> peace of mind, so do not speculate on them. One should not dwell upon

>> the

>> 14 erroneous views. These 14 are like a net which further entangles one

>> in the defilements. These views are not conjusive to one's release from

>> samsara as they obstruct one's path to nirvana. These are the 14

>> questions asked to, and unanswered by, the Kinsmen of the Sun, Lord

>> Buddha.. 1/-Whether the universe is eternal , not eternal, both eternal

>> and not eternal nor not eternal. 2/- whether the universe is finite,

>> infinite, both finite and infinite, and neither finite and infinite. 3/-

>> whether the Tathagata[buddha] exists after death, does not exist after

>> death, both exists and doesn't exist after death, and neither exists nor

>> does not exist after death. 4/- whether the soul is identical with the

>> body or different from it. Lord Buddha declined to answer these

>> questions, because they are not well finished. A question does not merit

>> an answer if the object of the query does not really exist. For

>> instance,

>> if one were to ask , " what is the size of the house on the planet

>> Venus? " .-{quote-Nagajuna's Letter to King Tamiputra.}

>> regards

>> terry

>> **The Jews in Nazi murder camps; the Cambodians in Killing Fields;

>> > Rawanda, and the like, could all ask WHY??? Why does God have such a

>> > horrible and bad creation within Him. If God is everything then He

>> must be

>> > also partly bad. That could be a conclusion. (But it is not my

>> > conclusion).

>> >

>> > Did Arjuna ask Lord Krishna in the Gita about Why? Why did he not ask

>> > Bhagavan face to face, WHY?

>> >

>> > Does God have an evil aspect? Does He create bad-guys just for the fun

>> of

>> > killing them? Is Maya God's " shooting gallery " ? Too bad that a lot of

>> good

>> > people get killed in the process. In fact ALL GOOD PEOPLE are killed

>> by

>> > Maya-kala-chakra, along with all bad people. That is the process of

>> birth

>> > and death and rebirth. But WHY this " process " ?

>> >

>> > If God created evil, and He is everything, and everything in Him, then

>> He

>> > is responsible and to blame? Is He partly evil?

>> >

>> > Krishna told Arjuna that evil was caused by Rajo-guna.. (kama-esha

>> > kroda-esha rajo-guna samudbhavam! - by lust and anger caused by Raja

>> guna.

>> > So Arjuna knew what was cause of evil. Maya is like a gun, it cannot

>> shoot

>> > by itself. But why God created " foolish souls " in bondage of Maya? If

>> one

>> > creates evil then they are responsible for it?

>> > Like Dr. Frankenstein created an evil monster (just for fun) in a

>> > fictional attempt to imitate God (by creating life) in the material

>> world.

>> >

>> > Y/s,

>> > R-

>> >

>> > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@>

>> > wrote:

>> >>

>> >> This reply could easily raise 3 issues:

>> >>

>> >> 1) Why did God create " foolish souls " ? That seems to be a foolish and

>> >> faulty creation!

>> >>

>> >> 2) In self-realization, what is the use or utility of asking an

>> >> impossible question: " WHY " is God's creation?*/**

>> >>

>> >> 3) If someone knew the answer as to WHY, would that knowledge change

>> >> their predicament as " baddha-jiva " ?

>> >>

>> >> Years ago I asked my Guru " Why did God create Maya, and let the Jivas

>> be

>> >> trapped " ? (it seems to be a childish and cruel process).

>> >>

>> >> He said,

>> >> 1) God did NOT create Maya. Maya is part of God as one of His

>> Shaktis.

>> >> God is eternal and Maya is eternal, sometimes manifest

>> (Koti-Brahmanda),

>> >> sometimes dormant (mahat-tattva) but there is NO beginning to this

>> >> reality or process. If there is no beginning then WHY? is not an

>> issue.

>> >>

>> >> *Note: If you ask WHY to Lord Brahma, the creator of THIS Brahmanda.

>> he

>> >> will pass the buck to Lord Krishna. And Lord Krishna might reply,

>> " Why

>> >> not? "

>> >>

>> >> **The Jews in Nazi murder camps; the Cambodians in Killing Fields;

>> >> Rawanda, and the like, could all ask WHY???

>> >>

>> >> Y/s,

>> >> Richard

>> >>

>> >> Y/s,

>> >>

>> >> sacred-objects , David Sherk <gadaidasa@>

>> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> > Hari bol   Lord Sri Krishna created the innumerable material

>> >> universes  as various prisons for foolish souls like us.  As you

>> are

>> >> asking this intelligent question, soon you will be paroled back to

>> the

>> >> spiritual world.   Jaya Sri Chaitanya               

>> >> Gadai

>> >> > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

>> >> > Re: My question still asking me..do u

>> have

>> >> answer?.

>> >> > sacred-objects

>> >> > Sunday, March 29, 2009, 1:11 PM

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > Dear Kishore Ji

>> >> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

>> >> >

>> >> > My son and I also have the same question. You are asking only about

>> >> " Universe " and we are asking actually about ourselves. I don't think

>> >> anybody can answer this question, not even any living saint. Why,

>> >> because such as a poet writes any poetry and only he knows why did he

>> >> write that poetry, in the same way only God knows why did He create

>> >> this world and us in that world. So only He can answer that, nobody

>> >> else.

>> >> >

>> >> > So aspire to meet God and ask HIM this first question that " Why did

>> >> you create this world and us in it? "

>> >> >

>> >> > I have left asking this question from anybody.

>> >> > With regards

>> >> > Sushma

>> >> >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...> wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > kishore kishore <mydearindian@ ...>

>> >> > > My question still asking me..do u have answer?.

>> >> > > rsbj66@

>> >> > > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:36 AM

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Dear Brother Richard,

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > Again my same old question is hitting my mind?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > Please advice me a divine living person to clear my query. If you

>> >> can clear it then it would be great otherwise introduce me a living

>> >> saint who can clear my question.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > Below is my same old question.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > Bhagavat Gita, Bible, The Prophet and all other sacred books of

>> all

>> >> different religions did not tell why God wanted to create this

>> >> universe?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > In GITA Krishna says that he does not have starting and ending.

>> He

>> >> says he is everything. He says he only knows Himself. Why is he that

>> >> much complicated? What is his origin.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > Without knowing why GOD is created all these activities how can

>> I

>> >> accept him as God? I know that I am making a sensible question. If

>> >> you think my question is non-sense then kindly let me know in which

>> >> way it is non-sense.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > In King of Baharat story Bharat very sweetly explained that

>> material

>> >> sense is non-sense and he explained the importance of soul. But he

>> >> did not explain why Lord created people and universe and what is his

>> >> motto behind this universe. I appreciate Bharat for knowing God. But

>> >> did God tell Bharat anything about his origin?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > If your answer is -à God created this universe for his own

>> >> happiness then how can I understand him? If creating a false game is

>> >> his happieness then how can I pray him and in which way I must

>> >> understand him.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > 1 Why Arjuna did not ask Lord Krishna about the origin of Supreme

>> >> Lord? Supreme Lord told that he does not have any origin and Arjuna

>> >> simply agreed? Well again why did he agree on it?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > 2 According to Bible Satan was there when God was there but god

>> did

>> >> not kill the satan because he wants people to choose God with free

>> >> will. I don’t understand this. If God killed Satan then every one

>> >> would know only God. Just to recognize him he did not kill Satan.

>> >> What kind of plan it is and why? No one knows. Is it not a selfish

>> >> plan to seek reorganization? I am not humanizing God here but still

>> >> why God intended t create it.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > 3 Lord Buddha realized God and he told about different karmas. He

>> >> says if anyone does good karma then for them there is a separate

>> >> world and if anyone does more good karma then there is a world of

>> >> angels like that he kept on explaining his knowledge. But sad thing

>> >> is he also did not explain why this many things created by God and

>> >> what is his motto. He claims that he got enlightenment then why did

>> >> he not tell about that secret.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > 4 Ramana Maharshi told one must ask to oneself “ Nan evearuâ€

>> in

>> >> tamil. I mean he says that one must ask “who am I “. If really I

>> >> come to know that I am a soul then also my question remains same.

>> >> What is the need to create it (soul) ...Ramana Maharshi did not tell

>> >> and passed away, why?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > >  

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > I read Bahagavat Gita several Times. Lord Krishna says that he is

>> >> the main origin for everything and he says he does everything. Even

>> >> a single sloka of Gita did not answer my question. My question is

>> >> why Lord Krishna created all these things and what is the benefit he

>> >> is going to get by creating all these things.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > God did not tell in any scripture why God thought to create this

>> >> universe but he keep telling in all scriptures that he is

>> >> everything.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > And the saints who got real knowledge of God also did not tell

>> and

>> >> did not ask why their God had created this universe, instead of that

>> >> everyone realized him and praised him only.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > I agree that God is very good and sweet. Do you know any

>> scripture

>> >> in this world which can answer my question?

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > If you did not understand my question then kindly ask me again. I

>> >> will try to explain my question again.

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Have a nice & productive day,

>> >> > >

>> >> > > With Best wishes,

>> >> > > M.kishore.

>> >> > >  

>> >> > > If you don't like to read this E-mail then please mention in

>> subject

>> >> line  " REMOVE " .

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>> >> >

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