Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I have just gone into classical chinese medicine treatment of acupuncture and cooking the herbs with Female prof and instructor here at chinese medical college in nyc I have been quite ill with secondary adrenal exhaustion (western diagnosis as my health has deteriorated to where i cannot get up off the bed. I have been sole caretaker to mother and gave up my career and life 5 years ago to do so I did not say anything to the prof. except tired. I have background in chinese medicine so i understood the diagnosis and was for the first time comfortable psychically that i could work with this Dr. and not have to take animal glandulars of adrenal extract either by injection or mouth, actually she told me it would irritate me to take them. i had been taking indian combinations of herbs for adrenals which did not work for me I am longtime vegan and practice yoga In any event the diagnosis scared even me and i was told i had to make arrangements for care for mother as i was no longer capable of doing so and would die befor e her if i continue to care for her. which i could not do anyway as i am too weak. so i am in acupuncture and drinking the stewed herbs daily for many months to come. i will report back. for those that understand chinese medicine. the kidneys both yin and yang are,,,, to pu t it mildy seriously deficient.empty gone wiped out that i am standing is curious.must be the russian genes. there is more but i wanted to make a point about chinese medicine. and each person is different in constitution environment and what may work for some may not work for others. moksha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Traditional (TCM) is renowned for its use of animal ingredients!annethakur <annethakursacred-objects Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 12:53:25 chinese medicine I have just gone into classical chinese medicine treatment of acupuncture and cooking the herbs with Female prof and instructor here at chinese medical college in nyc I have been quite ill with secondary adrenal exhaustion (western diagnosis as my health has deteriorated to where i cannot get up off the bed. I have been sole caretaker to mother and gave up my career and life 5 years ago to do so I did not say anything to the prof. except tired.. I have background in chinese medicine so i understood the diagnosis and was for the first time comfortable psychically that i could work with this Dr. and not have to take animal glandulars of adrenal extract either by injection or mouth, actually she told me it would irritate me to take them. i had been taking indian combinations of herbs for adrenals which did not work for me I am longtime vegan and practice yoga In any event the diagnosis scared even me and i was told i had to make arrangements for care for mother as i was no longer capable of doing so and would die befor e her if i continue to care for her. which i could not do anyway as i am too weak. so i am in acupuncture and drinking the stewed herbs daily for many months to come. i will report back. for those that understand chinese medicine. the kidneys both yin and yang are,,,, to pu t it mildy seriously deficient.empty gone wiped out that i am standing is curious.must be the russian genes. there is more but i wanted to make a point about chinese medicine. and each person is different in constitution environment and what may work for some may not work for others. moksha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hi Ole, Daniel P. Reid is a world authority on Chinese herbal medicine. There are two types of Chinese, meat eaters and vegetarians. Accordingly there are two types of Chinese Rx: non-veg AND veg. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > Traditional (TCM) is renowned for its use of animal ingredients! > > > > > ________________________________ > annethakur <annethakur > sacred-objects > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 12:53:25 > chinese medicine > > > I have just gone into classical chinese medicine treatment of > acupuncture and cooking the herbs with Female prof and instructor > here at chinese medical college in nyc > I have been quite ill with secondary adrenal exhaustion (western > diagnosis as my health has deteriorated to where i cannot get up off > the bed. I have been sole caretaker to mother and gave up my career > and life 5 years ago to do so > I did not say anything to the prof. except tired. I have > background in chinese medicine so i understood the diagnosis and was > for the first time comfortable psychically that i could work with > this Dr. and not have to take animal glandulars of adrenal extract > either by injection or mouth, actually she told me it would irritate > me to take them. i had been taking indian combinations of herbs for > adrenals which did not work for me > I am longtime vegan and practice yoga > In any event the diagnosis scared even me and i was told i had to > make arrangements for care for mother as i was no longer capable > of doing so and would die befor e her if i continue to care for her. > which i could not do anyway as i am too weak. > so i am in acupuncture and drinking the stewed herbs daily for > many months to come. i will report back. > for those that understand chinese medicine. the kidneys both yin and > yang are,,,, to pu t it mildy seriously deficient.empty gone > wiped out that i am standing is curious.must be the russian genes. > there is more but i wanted to make a point about chinese medicine. > and each person is different in constitution environment and > what may work for some may not work for others. > moksha > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls | Members | Calendar > MARKETPLACE > > ________________________________ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > * 3 > New MembersVisit Your Group > Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Y! Messenger > Want a quick chat? > Chat over IM with > group members. > Group Charity > Be the Change > A citizen movement > to change the world > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Animal ingredients are a traditional part of Chinese medicine, more so than Ayurveda in India. Vegetarianism is not uncommon or unusual in China; though, as is the case in the West, it is only practiced by a relatively small fraction of the population. Most Chinese vegetarians are Buddhists following the Buddhist teachings about minimizing suffering. Vegetables are considered intrinsically healthy, but the Chinese have also traditionally believed that they lack any physically fortifying properties, and strict vegetarian diets are unusual except for religious reasons. There is also, generally speaking, a stigma attached to not eating meat. Vegetable-only dishes are widely available, though cooking fat and stocks are usually of animal origin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_in_specific_countries#China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_in_China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_cuisine#Vegetarianism Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:43:53 Re: chinese medicine Hi Ole, Daniel P. Reid is a world authority on Chinese herbal medicine. There are two types of Chinese, meat eaters and vegetarians. Accordingly there are two types of Chinese Rx: non-veg AND veg. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > Traditional (TCM) is renowned for its use of animal ingredients! > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > annethakur <annethakur@ ....> > sacred-objects > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 12:53:25 > chinese medicine > > > I have just gone into classical chinese medicine treatment of > acupuncture and cooking the herbs with Female prof and instructor > here at chinese medical college in nyc > I have been quite ill with secondary adrenal exhaustion (western > diagnosis as my health has deteriorated to where i cannot get up off > the bed. I have been sole caretaker to mother and gave up my career > and life 5 years ago to do so > I did not say anything to the prof. except tired. I have > background in chinese medicine so i understood the diagnosis and was > for the first time comfortable psychically that i could work with > this Dr. and not have to take animal glandulars of adrenal extract > either by injection or mouth, actually she told me it would irritate > me to take them. i had been taking indian combinations of herbs for > adrenals which did not work for me > I am longtime vegan and practice yoga > In any event the diagnosis scared even me and i was told i had to > make arrangements for care for mother as i was no longer capable > of doing so and would die befor e her if i continue to care for her. > which i could not do anyway as i am too weak. > so i am in acupuncture and drinking the stewed herbs daily for > many months to come. i will report back. > for those that understand chinese medicine. the kidneys both yin and > yang are,,,, to pu t it mildy seriously deficient.empty gone > wiped out that i am standing is curious.must be the russian genes. > there is more but i wanted to make a point about chinese medicine. > and each person is different in constitution environment and > what may work for some may not work for others. > moksha > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls | Members | Calendar > MARKETPLACE > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > * 3 > New MembersVisit Your Group > Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Y! Messenger > Want a quick chat? > Chat over IM with > group members. > Group Charity > Be the Change > A citizen movement > to change the world > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????????????? you of all people Ole know i have refused all animal ingredient treatments the herbs being mixed for me are not of animal origin i am not taking animal glandulars i am taking acupuncture every week and drinking traditionally cooked terrible tasting chinese herbs of ground origin everyday and pray i never have to take animal anything even with my extremely yin constitution God willing i never have to take part in an animal suffering moksha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I was responding to the belief that chinese medicine is vegetarian, which you had indicated in your previous posting, that is wrong. Meat is very much a part of yin tonification in chinese medicine. There is nothing wrong in taking animal products to cure your disease, that is even sanctioned in the vedic system, (where you seem to have a faith) even by great acharyas like Srila Prabhupada, who was otherwise a staunch lactovegetarian and perhaps the biggest worldwide religious preacher against meat consumption of all times. anne thakur <annethakursacred-objects Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 0:20:51 Re: chinese medicine Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa?????? ??????? you of all people Ole know i have refused all animal ingredient treatments the herbs being mixed for me are not of animal origin i am not taking animal glandulars i am taking acupuncture every week and drinking traditionally cooked terrible tasting chinese herbs of ground origin everyday and pray i never have to take animal anything even with my extremely yin constitution God willing i never have to take part in an animal suffering moksha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 There is vegetarian Chinese medicine. Not all Chinese medicine has animal products. But as the majority are meat-eaters, so the majority of medicine is also non-veg. Prabhupada you mention is, actually, the World's biggest exponent of vegetarian diet in history. He is also my own Guru Maharaj. Wonderful. But " Prabhupada said " is becoming a BIGGER mantra than Maha Mantra as a form of apotheosis. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > I was responding to the belief that chinese medicine is vegetarian, which you had indicated in your previous posting, that is wrong. Meat is very much a part of yin tonification in chinese medicine. There is nothing wrong in taking animal products to cure your disease, that is even sanctioned in the vedic system, (where you seem to have a faith) even by great acharyas like Srila Prabhupada, who was otherwise a staunch lactovegetarian and perhaps the biggest worldwide religious preacher against meat consumption of all times. > > > > > ________________________________ > anne thakur <annethakur > sacred-objects > Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 0:20:51 > Re: chinese medicine > > > Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa?????? ??????? > you of all people Ole know i have refused all animal ingredient treatments > the herbs being mixed for me are not of animal origin > i am not taking animal glandulars > i am taking acupuncture every week and drinking traditionally cooked terrible tasting chinese herbs of ground origin everyday > and pray i never have to take animal anything > even with my extremely yin constitution > God willing i never have to take part in an animal suffering > moksha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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