Wisdom for a Child (Vegetarian Fesitval in Thailand)

February 9, 2009

I have a 12 years old son, a born vegetarian. He is a Royal student in Thailand King's Chitrlada Palace School, and they cannot make special meals for him, so he brings his own lunch to school,Often his class mates and teachers ask him why he is vegetarian. Then the annual "Vegetarian Festival" - which is 10 days of only Vege food for most everyone in Thailand, Hindu and Buddhist alike.I asked my son to inquire WHY they observe this 10 days Vegetarian Festival every year and all his friends told him to make "Punya" (good karma).I told my son that here is the reason to be Vegetarian, and he can see people believe. So if 10 days Vege is MERIT then what to speak of ALL THE TIME!?And if 10 days is MERIT, that means the other days are SIN.My son is 12 and he understands.

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February 10, 2009

Something I found interesting from Writings of Sitaram........Sitaram/message/1510Allow me to pose for all of you a futuristic science-fiction scenario

which will exercise your "moral calculus."

Firstly, we assume that self-defense to defend our lives and

existence is morally justified. Secondly, we assume that killing of

lower species for food or sport is harmless, and that murder only

involves killing the one higher species, man, because man has speech,

a soul.

But let us imagine that an alien creature arrives on planet earth,

which is so highly evolved that human beings appear as dumb primates

in comparison. These super beings communicate telepathically and,

furthermore all of their minds are interconnected as one superbrain.

These superior beings view us in the same light that we view gorillas

and chimpanzees. They see us as capable of some curious tricks, but

as not possessing what they define as a "soul." Obviously, we use

only verbal language and we are incapable of telepathic

communication. Furthermore, if we even possess a soul (which they

deem doubtful), we are not interconnected telepathically as a

supersoul. Let us give a name to these alien creatures. I shall call

them UBERACHNIDS (from Nietzsche's Uberman or superman, and the Greek

word "arachnid," meaning spider).

Now, this species of superbeing, the Uberachnid, has a highly

specialized digestive system. They may only live by finding warm

blooded creatures, inserting their long needle-like fangs into the

veins of their victims, and slowing absorbing the body-fluids in a

slow, agonizing process with takes several days, before the victim

finally dies.

Now, question number one, how different is the Uberachnid's moral

justification for harvesting and eating humans any different from the

human justification for harvesting and eating lower mammals. In fact,

the Uberachnid has more of an excuse for its eating habits, since it

cannot choose to be vegetarian, whereas humans DO have a vegetarian

choice.

In light of the superior nature of the Uberachnid, are humans really

justified any longer in perceiving themselves as the highest form of

life? Can the humans really assume that they possess a soul, since

obviously they do not possess the supersoul of the telepathically

interconnected Uberachnids?

Such a moral dilemma! If the humans do have it in their power to

exterminate the entire Uberachnid species, rendering it extinct, then

in some sense they commit a crime against intelligence and life

itself. For you see, apart from the Uberachnid's unpleasant dining

habits, they are the most admirable community of beings ever to

appear in the universe! Crime is unknown amongst the Uberachnid.

Poverty is unknown! All diseases have been conquered among the

Uberachnid! Furthermore, the Uberachnid have offered to make human

life a paradise on earth, and each human will be granted 100 years of

life and enjoyment in the perfect health and appearance of a twenty

year old youth! All that the Uberachnid ask of us is that at the end

of the hundred years, each person voluntarily report to the

Uberachnid Cafeteria, to be consumed. The Uberachnid have even

devised an anesthetic drug which will not only eliminate any

discomfort during the process of being consumed, but will also have

mind altering mood altering psychedelic properties such that the

victim being consumed will feel that they are in a paradise of

ecstasy, and their relative perception of time will be so altered

that they will perceived their last few hours of consciousness as an

unending eternity of bliss.

It seems that the Uberachnid are far more thoughtful, compassionate

generous to their human herds than humans ever were to their cattle.

Parts the Uberachnid scenario are constructed along the lines of

Peter Singer.

There is no such construct as Ethics in evolution. It is amoral.

Creatures do what they have to survive. Society, which benefits

individual survival was formed and rules constructed for the game,

just as stags in heat unconsciously constructed rules of

engagement, which by trial and error and blind chance and necessity

lead to an evolutionary stable strategy.

Even on artificially constructed grounds, the premise of eating us is

philosophically wrong. We are sentient beings with speech and a sense

of the future and past. We have anticipatory expectations of death

and the pursuit of happiness. We have dreams and hopes. The

Uberachnid may have more advanced science technology, which they have

personally conceived, planned and used to manufacture miraculous

gadgets, but the analogy is what the Europeans did to the Tasmanians,

Africans and American Indians, which we condemn now. Appetites for

power, wealth, sex or food cannot be justified ethically in all cases

and need no philosophical analysis evolutionarily.

Evolution emphasizes survival and reproduction at all costs yet is

responsible for evolving a brain which is focused on a sense of

justice.

This led to God and religion but also to ego. --- On Tue, 10/2/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Wisdom for a Child (Vegetarian Fesitval in Thailand)"Planetary Group Group" <planetary-gemology >, "Sacred Group Group" <sacred-objects >Tuesday, 10 February, 2009, 2:23 AM

I have a 12 years old son, a born vegetarian. He is a Royal student in Thailand King's Chitrlada Palace School, and they cannot make special meals for him, so he brings his own lunch to school,Often his class mates and teachers ask him why he is vegetarian. Then the annual "Vegetarian Festival" - which is 10 days of only Vege food for most everyone in Thailand, Hindu and Buddhist alike.I asked my son to inquire WHY they observe this 10 days Vegetarian Festival every year and all his friends told him to make "Punya" (good karma).I told my son that here is the reason to be Vegetarian, and he can see people believe. So if 10 days Vege is MERIT then

what to speak of ALL THE TIME!?And if 10 days is MERIT, that means the other days are SIN.My son is 12 and he understands.

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February 10, 2009

Sir,

It has touched my heart.binode kripalaninumerologist 9831664581(Kolkata)binodeukbinode_kripalani--- On Tue, 10/2/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Wisdom for a Child (Vegetarian Fesitval in Thailand)"Planetary Group Group" <planetary-gemology >, "Sacred Group Group" <sacred-objects >Tuesday, 10 February, 2009, 2:23 AM

I have a 12 years old son, a born vegetarian. He is a Royal student in Thailand King's Chitrlada Palace School, and they cannot make special meals for him, so he brings his own lunch to school,Often his class mates and teachers ask him why he is vegetarian. Then the annual "Vegetarian Festival" - which is 10 days of only Vege food for most everyone in Thailand, Hindu and Buddhist alike.I asked my son to inquire WHY they observe this 10 days Vegetarian Festival every year and all his friends told him to make "Punya" (good karma).I told my son that here is the reason to be Vegetarian, and he can see people believe. So if 10 days Vege is MERIT then what to speak of ALL THE TIME!?And if 10 days is MERIT, that means the other days are SIN.My son is 12 and he understands.

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