Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 dear friend you are harping on the xray of only one faced round rudraksha. kindly answer whether you xray and find 14 seeds in an xray of a 14mukhi and find 21 seeds in a 21mukhi rudraksha. are your customers able to find and count 21 seeds in the xray of a 21mukhi rudraksha. there is no harm and you are at liberty to sell rudraksha based on the seeds within the rudraksha invisible to human eye. but if you apply a scientific principle in a scientific lab with scientific machines manned by scientists, you must apply the principle scientifically equally to all mukhis. please also answer on my other mention whether any seeds are lost or not when a pendant is made or a hole is made while stringing it into a mala. unfortunately there is lot of misinformation spread by some that ek mukh rudraksha is not available or does not exist. nowhere in shivapurana it is mentioned like that. even in other puranas, narration of one mukhi is just like all other rudraksha and it does not say that it is not available. some modern editors while translating add their own comments but the scriptures themselves never singled out ek mukh rudraksha as such. some people spread another false story that there is only one tree of one mukhi in nepal which produces only one bead of one mukhi once a year. anyway, it is heartening to note that those athiests of round ek mukh rudraksha have now converted themselves into thiests and not only started believing the existence of round ek mukhi rudraksha but have seen and shared their miracles performed by the round ek mukh rudraksha and are making them available. my best wishes and blessings to all these believers of rudraksha, for all rudraksha from one to fourteen are embodiments of lord shiva. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com In sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu. >  > If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ? >  > So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 years. >  > You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu. >  > You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in doing that. >  > I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can hide the truth. >  > You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you are charging so exorbitantly  for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to loose customers. >  >  > Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know the truth.. > > I hope this will help, > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > 00 91 9322646421 > 00 91 9322646420 > 0091 22 24459616 > salagram8 > shaligram8 > Address > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > Narayan Pathare Marg, > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > Maharashtra (India ) > > --- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > sacred-objects > Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM dear friend > > thanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of > rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known supplier > from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world. > > one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to > devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord > shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord etc., > subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting > it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test > before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly > naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in > the puranas. > > dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you > kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that > each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines > outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you > be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to > see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. > answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling LINED > rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed > rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed > rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or > higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi > rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are > counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it. > > i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, > since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold > silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it > is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread or > silver or gold wire to be stringed easily. > > so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are > not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed > as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING > RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > the Lord. > > Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed inside > Prabhu. > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > 00 91 9322646421 > > 00 91 9322646420 > > 0091 22 24459616 > > salagram8@ . > > shaligram8@ .. > > Address > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > sacred-objects > > Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured > behaviour > > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol rudraksha > > from nepal. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph of > > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the > one > > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of > just > > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same. > > > > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, if > > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > > future. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Siddhartha, > > > > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana evokes > > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be > welcome.... > > > > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring & > > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the > smoothness > > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said the > > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned > bead > > has not gone under the scalpel. > > > > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact > that > > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But > whether > > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, well > I > > have my doubts...... > > > > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " Let > > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us. " Were you > > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. I > > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will make > > the moon in the bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the moon > > clear. > > > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking that > > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in that > > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that. > > > > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there???? > > > > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us not > > hurt him by " unsure " remarks. > > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he answered > > very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part with > > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of > tapas > > for some papers( currency), Definitely not " > > > > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the eternal > > bliss the bead is giving us all. > > > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > Siddharth Mishra > > > > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any fine craftsmanship > > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I would > > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone > via > > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the goods > > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with > you, > > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled > to) > > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts. > > > > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > of > > the Lord. > > > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a little > > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt > match > > well friend. > > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing this > > bautiful bead with me. > > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha > bead > > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for > > selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am not > > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry. > > > I hope this will help, > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Haribol, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > salagram8 > > > shaligram8 > > > Address > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote: > > > > > > Simone <shombaz > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM > > > > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is no > > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas. > > > > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut lovers, > > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the nuts, > > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight. > > > > > > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just > my > > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed inside. > > > > > > scrathing my head, simone > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote: > > > > > > tp mods <tpmods > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM > > > > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by seeing > > physical lookout. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > wrote: > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM > > > > > > Wow ! I cannot believe such a beautiful one Mukhi > > Gol Nepalese bead I would be seeing in my life ever. Truely > > unbelievable !!!! > > > Pl view the following link on www..shaligram. com > > > > > > http://www.shaligra m.com/rudraksha/ 1mukhi.php > > > > > > There is one more very rare Rudraksha also. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 dear richardji you are right in your conclusive observation that there is no scientific tenable equally applicable rule invented by the modern scientists that the number of seeds inside the rudraksha must match the number of lines outside. but i am made to answer this since i was asked to mention whether i have xray or not for the rudraksha i sell. there is no ambiguity in saying that my rudraksha are sold only on the basis of the naturally formed lines on the rudraksha. by the way, my mail was intended not at you but at those people who were first athiests of round ek mukh rudraksha and used to jump at the very mention of it to say that all round ek mukh rudraksha in the world are fake. when i furnished the photograph and was selling it, they scared away my customer by saying first it was a fake, then it was an underdeveloped five mukhi, then came with xray of not finding only one chamber etc. it is a different thing that these same people slowly seeded the market with the acceptance and acknowledgement of the existence of round ek mukh rudraksha, then eulogised its mircales and are now selling various forms, shapes and designs of round ek mukh rudraksha. natives have the liberty to keep credence in the words of anyone as they like but it is unbusinesslike to criticise other sellers of rudraksha as they did to me earlier. hope at least from now onwards each businessman focus on his or her own business rather than pointing fingers at others. my philosophy is plain simple, i dont comment on what others sell but if others point fingers at me, i owe an explanation. thats it. hope these people learn to realise mutual coexistence of various sellers in the field. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear All, > > We had discussed before that the seeds do not equal the lines on a > Rudraksha necessarily. I think that was the conclusion. > > Late Sadhu Kali Baba told me the test of ek-mukhi gol dana was: > 1) It will flow upstream, against the current, in the Ganga; > 2) When cow's milk is poured onto the seed it will rise up the flow of > milk and into the milk pot. > > I don't think Kali Baba even knew what an X-ray was. He hardly even > knew what was electricity. Kali Baba had an ekmukhi gol dana which he > put into my possession for a week in 1976 as I gave to a Nepali > goldsmith to set in gold. After removing the old silver caps and > cleaning the seed we examined carefully with a 10x loupe. There were > no signs of any tampering what so ever. The Nepali goldsmith was of > the same opinion. It was genuine Eka Mukhi (although we didn't apply the tests mentioned by Baba). > > Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > you are harping on the xray of only one faced round rudraksha. > > > > kindly answer whether you xray and find 14 seeds in an xray of a > > 14mukhi and find 21 seeds in a 21mukhi rudraksha. are your customers > > able to find and count 21 seeds in the xray of a 21mukhi rudraksha. > > > > there is no harm and you are at liberty to sell rudraksha based on > > the seeds within the rudraksha invisible to human eye. but if you > > apply a scientific principle in a scientific lab with scientific > > machines manned by scientists, you must apply the principle > > scientifically equally to all mukhis. > > > > please also answer on my other mention whether any seeds are lost or > > not when a pendant is made or a hole is made while stringing it into > > a mala. > > > > unfortunately there is lot of misinformation spread by some that ek > > mukh rudraksha is not available or does not exist. nowhere in > > shivapurana it is mentioned like that. even in other puranas, > > narration of one mukhi is just like all other rudraksha and it does > > not say that it is not available. some modern editors while > > translating add their own comments but the scriptures themselves > > never singled out ek mukh rudraksha as such. some people spread > > another false story that there is only one tree of one mukhi in nepal > > which produces only one bead of one mukhi once a year. > > > > anyway, it is heartening to note that those athiests of round ek mukh > > rudraksha have now converted themselves into thiests and not only > > started believing the existence of round ek mukhi rudraksha but have > > seen and shared their miracles performed by the round ek mukh > > rudraksha and are making them available. my best wishes and blessings > > to all these believers of rudraksha, for all rudraksha from one to > > fourteen are embodiments of lord shiva. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > In sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > > the Lord. > > > > > > Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or > > artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of > > bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi > > Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in > > their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 > > seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be > > called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu. > > >  > > > If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , > > properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka > > Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very > > much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as > > per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one > > clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than > > that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is > > a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ? > > >  > > > So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to > > our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be > > genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it > > will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of > > Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 > > years. > > >  > > > You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that > > does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every > > devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine > > Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help > > him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the > > person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu. > > >  > > > You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any > > devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have > > X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO > > 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at > > Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X > > Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are > > 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in > > doing that. > > >  > > > I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report > > of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just > > because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge > > and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can > > hide the truth. > > >  > > > You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed > > suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you > > are charging so exorbitantly  for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- > > . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers > > have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were > > four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad > > Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to > > loose customers. > > >  > > >  > > > Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these > > underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know > > the truth.. > > > > > > I hope this will help, > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Haribol, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > salagram8@ > > > shaligram8@ > > > Address > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > --- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > thanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of > > > rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known > > supplier > > > from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world. > > > > > > one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to > > > devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord > > > shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord > > etc., > > > subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting > > > it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test > > > before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly > > > naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in > > > the puranas. > > > > > > dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you > > > kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that > > > each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines > > > outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you > > > be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to > > > see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. > > > answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling > > LINED > > > rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed > > > rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed > > > rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or > > > higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi > > > rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are > > > counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it. > > > > > > i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, > > > since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold > > > silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it > > > is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread or > > > silver or gold wire to be stringed easily. > > > > > > so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are > > > not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed > > > as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING > > > RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > > > <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > > of > > > the Lord. > > > > Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed > > inside > > > Prabhu. > > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Haribol, > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > > salagram8@ . > > > > shaligram8@ .. > > > > Address > > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured > > > behaviour > > > > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol > > rudraksha > > > > from nepal. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > > > > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph > > of > > > > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > > > > > > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the > > > one > > > > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of > > > just > > > > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > > > > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same. > > > > > > > > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, > > if > > > > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > > > > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > > > > future. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > > > > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddhartha, > > > > > > > > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > > > > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > evokes > > > > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > > > > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be > > > welcome.... > > > > > > > > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > > > > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring > > & > > > > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the > > > smoothness > > > > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said > > the > > > > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned > > > bead > > > > has not gone under the scalpel. > > > > > > > > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > > > > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact > > > that > > > > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But > > > whether > > > > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, > > well > > > I > > > > have my doubts...... > > > > > > > > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " > > Let > > > > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us. " Were you > > > > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > > > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. > > I > > > > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > > > > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will > > make > > > > the moon in the bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > > > > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the > > moon > > > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > > > > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking > > that > > > > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > > > > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in > > that > > > > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that. > > > > > > > > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > > > > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there???? > > > > > > > > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > > > > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us > > not > > > > hurt him by " unsure " remarks. > > > > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he > > answered > > > > very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part > > with > > > > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of > > > tapas > > > > for some papers( currency), Definitely not " > > > > > > > > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the > > eternal > > > > bliss the bead is giving us all. > > > > > > > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > > Siddharth Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > > > > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any fine > > craftsmanship > > > > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I > > would > > > > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone > > > via > > > > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the > > goods > > > > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > > > > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with > > > you, > > > > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled > > > to) > > > > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > > > > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts. > > > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ . com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > > > of > > > > the Lord. > > > > > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a > > little > > > > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt > > > match > > > > well friend. > > > > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing > > this > > > > bautiful bead with me. > > > > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > > > > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha > > > bead > > > > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > > > > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for > > > > selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am > > not > > > > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry. > > > > > I hope this will help, > > > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > Haribol, > > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > > > salagram8 > > > > > shaligram8 > > > > > Address > > > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Simone <shombaz > > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > > > > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is > > no > > > > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas. > > > > > > > > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut > > lovers, > > > > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the > > nuts, > > > > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight. > > > > > > > > > > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > > > > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just > > > my > > > > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed > > inside. > > > > > > > > > > scrathing my head, simone > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > tp mods <tpmods > > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM > > > > > > > > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > > > > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by > > seeing > > > > physical lookout. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > wrote: > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > > > > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM > > > > > > > > > > Wow ! I cannot believe such a beautiful one Mukhi > > > > Gol Nepalese bead I would be seeing in my life ever. Truely > > > > unbelievable !!!! > > > > > Pl view the following link on www..shaligram. com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaligra m.com/rudraksha/ 1mukhi.php > > > > > > > > > > There is one more very rare Rudraksha also. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Dear Mr. Rajeev, You are indeed blessed to have a One Mukhi Rudraksha.Please accept my heartiest congratulations. As stated by you & your well-wishers you do not wish to part with this bead, then why you are arguing so much with other esteemed forum members, as to yours is the only genuine round one mukhi. You should enjoy the bliss this bead is giving you & your well-wishers, why waste your time in such meaningless pursuits. Best Wishes, Abhishek Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: Hare Krishna Prabhu, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu. If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ? So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 years. You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu. You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in doing that. I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can hide the truth. You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you are charging so exorbitantly for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to loose customers. Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know the truth. I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day,Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram,Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 932264642100 91 93226464200091 22 24459616salagram8 shaligram8 Address105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,Narayan Pathare Marg,Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 Maharashtra (India )--- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: Siddhartha Bliss RudrakshaTo: sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM dear friendthanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known supplier from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world.one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord etc., subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in the puranas.dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling LINED rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it.i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread or silver or gold wire to be stringed easily.so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:>> > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.> Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed inside Prabhu.> Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,> Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> 00 91 9322646421> 00 91 9322646420> 0091 22 24459616> salagram8@.. .> shaligram8@. ..> Address> 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,> Narayan Pathare Marg,> Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > Maharashtra (India )> > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>> Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha> sacred-objects> Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > > dear friends> > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured behaviour > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol rudraksha > from nepal. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph of > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the one > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of just > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same.> > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, if > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > future.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy .com> > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Siddhartha,> > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana evokes > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be welcome....> > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring & > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the smoothness > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said the > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned bead > has not gone under the scalpel.> > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact that > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But whether > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, well I > have my doubts......> > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " Let > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us." Were you > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. I > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will make > the moon in the bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the moon > clear. > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking that > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in that > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that..> > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there????> > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us not > hurt him by "unsure" remarks. > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he answered > very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part with > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of tapas > for some papers( currency), Definitely not"> > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the eternal > bliss the bead is giving us all.> > > > Yours Sincerely,> > Siddharth Mishra> > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote:> > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...>> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM> > > > Dear All,> > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any fine craftsmanship > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I would > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone via > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the goods > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with you, > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled to) > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts.> > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA> > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> wrote:> > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8>> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM> > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > the Lord.> > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a little > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt match > well friend. > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing this > bautiful bead with me. > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha bead > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for > selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am not > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry.> > I hope this will help,> > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha> > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day,> > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram,> > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,> > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > 00 91 9322646421> > 00 91 9322646420> > 0091 22 24459616> > salagram8 > > shaligram8 > > Address> > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,> > Narayan Pathare Marg,> > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > Maharashtra (India )> > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote:> > > > Simone <shombaz >> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM> > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is no > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas.> > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut lovers, > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the nuts, > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight.> > > > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just my > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed inside.> > > > scrathing my head, simone> > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote:> > > > tp mods <tpmods >> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM> > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by seeing > physical lookout.> > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > wrote:> > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis >> > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM> > > > Wow ! I cannot believe such a beautiful one Mukhi > Gol Nepalese bead I would be seeing in my life ever. Truely > unbelievable !!!!> > Pl view the following link on www..shaligram. com> > > > http://www.shaligra m.com/rudraksha/ 1mukhi.php> > > > There is one more very rare Rudraksha also. Watch that also !!!> > > > Really Adarniye Prabhu Rajiv Krishna Dasa is truely blessed with > the choicest blessings of Lord Shiva. > > > > Har Har Mahadev> > Siddharth Mishra> > > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, benarsibabu <benarsibabu@ .co. in> wrote:> > > > benarsibabu <benarsibabu@ .co. in>> > Vedic Quote> > sacred-objects@ . com> > Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 11:44 PM> > > > To seek God too soon is not less sinful> > than to seek God too late;> > we must love, man, woman, or child,> > we must exhaust ambition, intellect, desire,> > dedicating all things as they pass,> > or we come to God with empty hands.....> > > > Avadhuta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Connect with friends all over the world.. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Yes, that was the conclusion. But does it apply to the round One Mukhi from Nepal? still it is a tricky question. Xrays were invented in the 19th century, they are not mentioned in Shastra. Then again 10X loupe are not either. And the metaphysical tests given by Hari Siddhi Kali Baba are not mentioned either. Many details are given in Rudraksha scripture of how to identify genuine bead. NOwhere is mentioned to count internal seeds. Are these shastric guidelines sufficient in this Kali Yuga day and age to identify fake beads - where so much cheating is going on? Of course some artisans are so skilled they can fool almost anyone except the most skilled expert.KN Seetha gives many valid points to be considered in chapter 4 of his new book on identification. Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Thursday, 25 December, 2008 17:57:19 Re: counting of seeds Dear All, We had discussed before that the seeds do not equal the lines on a Rudraksha necessarily. I think that was the conclusion. Late Sadhu Kali Baba told me the test of ek-mukhi gol dana was: 1) It will flow upstream, against the current, in the Ganga; 2) When cow's milk is poured onto the seed it will rise up the flow of milk and into the milk pot. I don't think Kali Baba even knew what an X-ray was. He hardly even knew what was electricity. Kali Baba had an ekmukhi gol dana which he put into my possession for a week in 1976 as I gave to a Nepali goldsmith to set in gold. After removing the old silver caps and cleaning the seed we examined carefully with a 10x loupe. There were no signs of any tampering what so ever. The Nepali goldsmith was of the same opinion. It was genuine Eka Mukhi (although we didn't apply the tests mentioned by Baba). Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > dear friend > > you are harping on the xray of only one faced round rudraksha. > > kindly answer whether you xray and find 14 seeds in an xray of a > 14mukhi and find 21 seeds in a 21mukhi rudraksha. are your customers > able to find and count 21 seeds in the xray of a 21mukhi rudraksha. > > there is no harm and you are at liberty to sell rudraksha based on > the seeds within the rudraksha invisible to human eye. but if you > apply a scientific principle in a scientific lab with scientific > machines manned by scientists, you must apply the principle > scientifically equally to all mukhis. > > please also answer on my other mention whether any seeds are lost or > not when a pendant is made or a hole is made while stringing it into > a mala. > > unfortunately there is lot of misinformation spread by some that ek > mukh rudraksha is not available or does not exist. nowhere in > shivapurana it is mentioned like that. even in other puranas, > narration of one mukhi is just like all other rudraksha and it does > not say that it is not available. some modern editors while > translating add their own comments but the scriptures themselves > never singled out ek mukh rudraksha as such. some people spread > another false story that there is only one tree of one mukhi in nepal > which produces only one bead of one mukhi once a year. > > anyway, it is heartening to note that those athiests of round ek mukh > rudraksha have now converted themselves into thiests and not only > started believing the existence of round ek mukhi rudraksha but have > seen and shared their miracles performed by the round ek mukh > rudraksha and are making them available. my best wishes and blessings > to all these believers of rudraksha, for all rudraksha from one to > fourteen are embodiments of lord shiva. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > In sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ > > wrote: > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > the Lord. > > > > Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or > artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of > bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi > Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in > their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 > seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be > called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu. > >  > > If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , > properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka > Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very > much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as > per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one > clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than > that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is > a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ? > >  > > So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to > our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be > genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it > will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of > Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 > years. > >  > > You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that > does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every > devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine > Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help > him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the > person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu. > >  > > You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any > devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have > X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO > 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at > Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X > Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are > 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in > doing that. > >  > > I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report > of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just > because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge > and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can > hide the truth. > >  > > You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed > suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you > are charging so exorbitantly  for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- > . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers > have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were > four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad > Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to > loose customers. > >  > >  > > Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these > underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know > the truth.. > > > > I hope this will help, > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > 00 91 9322646421 > > 00 91 9322646420 > > 0091 22 24459616 > > salagram8@ > > shaligram8@ > > Address > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > --- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > thanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of > > rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known > supplier > > from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world. > > > > one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to > > devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord > > shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord > etc., > > subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting > > it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test > > before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly > > naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in > > the puranas. > > > > dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you > > kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that > > each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines > > outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you > > be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to > > see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. > > answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling > LINED > > rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed > > rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed > > rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or > > higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi > > rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are > > counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it. > > > > i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, > > since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold > > silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it > > is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread or > > silver or gold wire to be stringed easily. > > > > so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are > > not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed > > as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING > > RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > of > > the Lord. > > > Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed > inside > > Prabhu. > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Haribol, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > salagram8@ . > > > shaligram8@ .. > > > Address > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured > > behaviour > > > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol > rudraksha > > > from nepal.. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > > > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph > of > > > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > > > > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the > > one > > > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of > > just > > > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > > > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same. > > > > > > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, > if > > > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > > > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > > > future. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > > > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Siddhartha, > > > > > > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > > > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > evokes > > > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > > > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be > > welcome.... > > > > > > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > > > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring > & > > > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the > > smoothness > > > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said > the > > > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned > > bead > > > has not gone under the scalpel. > > > > > > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > > > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact > > that > > > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But > > whether > > > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, > well > > I > > > have my doubts...... > > > > > > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " > Let > > > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us." Were you > > > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. > I > > > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > > > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will > make > > > the moon in the bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > > > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the > moon > > > clear. > > > > > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > > > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking > that > > > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > > > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in > that > > > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that. > > > > > > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > > > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there???? > > > > > > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > > > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us > not > > > hurt him by "unsure" remarks. > > > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he > answered > > > very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part > with > > > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of > > tapas > > > for some papers( currency), Definitely not" > > > > > > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the > eternal > > > bliss the bead is giving us all. > > > > > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > Siddharth Mishra > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > > > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any fine > craftsmanship > > > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I > would > > > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone > > via > > > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the > goods > > > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > > > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with > > you, > > > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled > > to) > > > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > > > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts. > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > > of > > > the Lord. > > > > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a > little > > > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt > > match > > > well friend. > > > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing > this > > > bautiful bead with me. > > > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > > > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha > > bead > > > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > > > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for > > > selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am > not > > > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry. > > > > I hope this will help, > > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Haribol, > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.. COM > > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > > salagram8 > > > > shaligram8 > > > > Address > > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote: > > > > > > > > Simone <shombaz > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM > > > > > > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > > > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is > no > > > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas. > > > > > > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut > lovers, > > > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the > nuts, > > > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight. > > > > > > > > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > > > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just > > my > > > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed > inside. > > > > > > > > scrathing my head, simone > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote: > > > > > > > > tp mods <tpmods > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM > > > > > > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > > > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by > seeing > > > physical lookout. > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > wrote: > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > > > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM > > > > > > > > Wow ! 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 According to the view by Rajiv Krishna Prabhu, this would mean the 17 mukhi was fake and made from a 14 mukhi. sacred-objects , Simone <shombaz wrote: > > dear friend > > I have been wearing ekmukhi gol for 17years and on the tail section it has 5very small lines but from the tail to the mouth only one line and it is nice and round. i still consider my ekmukhi as a ekmukhi. i have seen many manifestations in my life after wearing the rudrakhshas. about 4years ago one of my 17mukhi split into two due to severe dehydration camp for 6months research. > > when i broke the bead further to see each compartments in the rudrakshas, the centre section where some of smaller lines had tiny seed and two compartments with very tiny seeds. but the compartments were there like chambers a total of 14chambers some like hairline structure. this is my personal observation which i would like to share which might cause allergic reaction to some ;( > > i don't think a lab or a or group of scientist can testify rudrakshas. i have collected 4pieces of ekmukhi gol for my family members and am very happy with the quality without the help of science and x-rays, superman and superwomen. > > pandit arjun ji, nepal rudrakshas has natural holes, no seeds in the compartments is destroyed if a thread or wire is used unless you would like to make the hole so big then only the compartments are torn apart destroying the seeds inside. i am surprised you ask such a question when you are selling rudrakshas. > > i have also received emails from spys asking if i am a seller of rudrakshas. the answer is i am not a seller only a collector of rudrakshas and spiritual objects. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 i did not see the secret reply to you. maybe you did not read properly, 3of the compartments had very tiny chambers at the center section. there were total of 14chambers and 3 tiny chambers. or maybe my poor english is so bad. if your friend has not seen the rudrakshas internally and externally how can they decide it is fake? --- On Fri, 12/26/08, alstrup <alstrup wrote: alstrup <alstrup Re: counting of seedssacred-objects Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 3:20 AM According to the view by Rajiv Krishna Prabhu, this would mean the 17mukhi was fake and made from a 14 mukhi.sacred-objects, Simone <shombaz > wrote:>> dear friend> > I have been wearing ekmukhi gol for 17years and on the tail sectionit has 5very small lines but from the tail to the mouth only one lineand it is nice and round. i still consider my ekmukhi as a ekmukhi. ihave seen many manifestations in my life after wearing therudrakhshas. about 4years ago one of my 17mukhi split into two due tosevere dehydration camp for 6months research.> > when i broke the bead further to see each compartments in therudrakshas, the centre section where some of smaller lines had tinyseed and two compartments with very tiny seeds. but the compartmentswere there like chambers a total of 14chambers some like hairlinestructure. this is my personal observation which i would like to sharewhich might cause allergic reaction to some ;(> > i don't think a lab or a or group of scientistcan testify rudraksha s. i have collected 4pieces of ekmukhi gol for myfamily members and am very happy with the quality without the help ofscience and x-rays, superman and superwomen. > > pandit arjun ji, nepal rudrakshas has natural holes, no seeds in thecompartments is destroyed if a thread or wire is used unless you wouldlike to make the hole so big then only the compartments are torn apartdestroying the seeds inside. i am surprised you ask such a questionwhen you are selling rudrakshas. > > i have also received emails from spys asking if i am a seller ofrudrakshas. the answer is i am not a seller only a collector ofrudrakshas and spiritual objects. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 dear friend as regards your observation of all nepalese rudraksha having naturally formed hole is half true. it is true in most of the rudraksha from 1 to 10 mukhis. in 3,4,5,6,7 mukhi rudraksha, we all find most of them having naturally formed hole from top to bottom. 2 mukhi nepalese bead hardly has a hole in it. for higher mukhis from 11 to 14, i have seen most rudraksha, especially larger beads where there is no hole. even if there is a very minor visible hole at the bottom, on the top it is closed. some people cap it in which case holing is not required. but when we make it in a mala or stringed in a wired pendant, then a hole is made. hope you are not surprised to know about the two mukhi nepalese rudraksha not having naturally formed holes sufficient enough as you say and the higher mukhi rudrakshas mostly (if not all) having the top portion completely closed and only the bottom has hole but many a time it is closed. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , Simone <shombaz wrote: > > dear friend > > I have been wearing ekmukhi gol for 17years and on the tail section it has 5very small lines but from the tail to the mouth only one line and it is nice and round. i still consider my ekmukhi as a ekmukhi. i have seen many manifestations in my life after wearing the rudrakhshas. about 4years ago one of my 17mukhi split into two due to severe dehydration camp for 6months research. > > when i broke the bead further to see each compartments in the rudrakshas, the centre section where some of smaller lines had tiny seed and two compartments with very tiny seeds. but the compartments were there like chambers a total of 14chambers some like hairline structure. this is my personal observation which i would like to share which might cause allergic reaction to some ;( > > i don't think a lab or a or group of scientist can testify rudrakshas. i have collected 4pieces of ekmukhi gol for my family members and am very happy with the quality without the help of science and x-rays, superman and superwomen. > > pandit arjun ji, nepal rudrakshas has natural holes, no seeds in the compartments is destroyed if a thread or wire is used unless you would like to make the hole so big then only the compartments are torn apart destroying the seeds inside. i am surprised you ask such a question when you are selling rudrakshas. > > i have also received emails from spys asking if i am a seller of rudrakshas. the answer is i am not a seller only a collector of rudrakshas and spiritual objects. > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: counting of seeds > sacred-objects > Thursday, December 25, 2008, 10:57 AM Dear All, > > We had discussed before that the seeds do not equal the lines on a > Rudraksha necessarily. I think that was the conclusion. > > Late Sadhu Kali Baba told me the test of ek-mukhi gol dana was: > 1) It will flow upstream, against the current, in the Ganga; > 2) When cow's milk is poured onto the seed it will rise up the flow of > milk and into the milk pot. > > I don't think Kali Baba even knew what an X-ray was. He hardly even > knew what was electricity. Kali Baba had an ekmukhi gol dana which he > put into my possession for a week in 1976 as I gave to a Nepali > goldsmith to set in gold. After removing the old silver caps and > cleaning the seed we examined carefully with a 10x loupe. There were > no signs of any tampering what so ever. The Nepali goldsmith was of > the same opinion. It was genuine Eka Mukhi (although we didn't apply the tests mentioned by Baba). > > Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > you are harping on the xray of only one faced round rudraksha. > > > > kindly answer whether you xray and find 14 seeds in an xray of a > > 14mukhi and find 21 seeds in a 21mukhi rudraksha. are your customers > > able to find and count 21 seeds in the xray of a 21mukhi rudraksha. > > > > there is no harm and you are at liberty to sell rudraksha based on > > the seeds within the rudraksha invisible to human eye. but if you > > apply a scientific principle in a scientific lab with scientific > > machines manned by scientists, you must apply the principle > > scientifically equally to all mukhis. > > > > please also answer on my other mention whether any seeds are lost or > > not when a pendant is made or a hole is made while stringing it into > > a mala. > > > > unfortunately there is lot of misinformation spread by some that ek > > mukh rudraksha is not available or does not exist. nowhere in > > shivapurana it is mentioned like that. even in other puranas, > > narration of one mukhi is just like all other rudraksha and it does > > not say that it is not available. some modern editors while > > translating add their own comments but the scriptures themselves > > never singled out ek mukh rudraksha as such. some people spread > > another false story that there is only one tree of one mukhi in nepal > > which produces only one bead of one mukhi once a year. > > > > anyway, it is heartening to note that those athiests of round ek mukh > > rudraksha have now converted themselves into thiests and not only > > started believing the existence of round ek mukhi rudraksha but have > > seen and shared their miracles performed by the round ek mukh > > rudraksha and are making them available. my best wishes and blessings > > to all these believers of rudraksha, for all rudraksha from one to > > fourteen are embodiments of lord shiva. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > In sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > > the Lord. > > > > > > Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or > > artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of > > bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi > > Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in > > their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 > > seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be > > called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu. > > >  > > > If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , > > properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka > > Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very > > much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as > > per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one > > clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than > > that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is > > a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ? > > >  > > > So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to > > our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be > > genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it > > will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of > > Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 > > years. > > >  > > > You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that > > does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every > > devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine > > Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help > > him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the > > person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu. > > >  > > > You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any > > devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have > > X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO > > 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at > > Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X > > Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are > > 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in > > doing that. > > >  > > > I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report > > of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just > > because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge > > and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can > > hide the truth. > > >  > > > You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed > > suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you > > are charging so exorbitantly  for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- > > . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers > > have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were > > four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad > > Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to > > loose customers. > > >  > > >  > > > Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these > > underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know > > the truth.. > > > > > > I hope this will help, > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Haribol, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > salagram8@ > > > shaligram8@ > > > Address > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > --- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > thanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of > > > rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known > > supplier > > > from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world. > > > > > > one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to > > > devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord > > > shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord > > etc., > > > subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting > > > it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test > > > before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly > > > naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in > > > the puranas. > > > > > > dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you > > > kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that > > > each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines > > > outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you > > > be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to > > > see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. > > > answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling > > LINED > > > rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed > > > rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed > > > rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or > > > higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi > > > rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are > > > counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it. > > > > > > i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, > > > since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold > > > silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it > > > is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread or > > > silver or gold wire to be stringed easily. > > > > > > so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are > > > not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed > > > as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING > > > RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > > > <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > > of > > > the Lord. > > > > Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed > > inside > > > Prabhu. > > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Haribol, > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > > salagram8@ . > > > > shaligram8@ .. > > > > Address > > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > > > > Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured > > > behaviour > > > > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol > > rudraksha > > > > from nepal. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > > > > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph > > of > > > > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > > > > > > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the > > > one > > > > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of > > > just > > > > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > > > > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same. > > > > > > > > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, > > if > > > > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > > > > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > > > > future. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > > > > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddhartha, > > > > > > > > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > > > > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > evokes > > > > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > > > > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be > > > welcome.... > > > > > > > > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > > > > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring > > & > > > > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the > > > smoothness > > > > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said > > the > > > > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned > > > bead > > > > has not gone under the scalpel. > > > > > > > > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > > > > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact > > > that > > > > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But > > > whether > > > > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, > > well > > > I > > > > have my doubts...... > > > > > > > > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " > > Let > > > > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us. " Were you > > > > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > > > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. > > I > > > > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > > > > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will > > make > > > > the moon in the bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > > > > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the > > moon > > > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > > > > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking > > that > > > > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > > > > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in > > that > > > > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that. > > > > > > > > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > > > > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there???? > > > > > > > > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > > > > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us > > not > > > > hurt him by " unsure " remarks. > > > > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he > > answered > > > > very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part > > with > > > > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of > > > tapas > > > > for some papers( currency), Definitely not " > > > > > > > > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the > > eternal > > > > bliss the bead is giving us all. > > > > > > > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > > Siddharth Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > > > > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any fine > > craftsmanship > > > > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I > > would > > > > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone > > > via > > > > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the > > goods > > > > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > > > > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with > > > you, > > > > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled > > > to) > > > > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > > > > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts. > > > > > > > > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ . com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > > > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > > > > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees > > > of > > > > the Lord. > > > > > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a > > little > > > > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt > > > match > > > > well friend. > > > > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing > > this > > > > bautiful bead with me. > > > > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > > > > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha > > > bead > > > > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > > > > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for > > > > selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am > > not > > > > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry. > > > > > I hope this will help, > > > > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha > > > > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > > > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > > > > > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > > > > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > > > > > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > > > > > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > Haribol, > > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > > 00 91 9322646421 > > > > > 00 91 9322646420 > > > > > 0091 22 24459616 > > > > > salagram8 > > > > > shaligram8 > > > > > Address > > > > > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > > > > > Narayan Pathare Marg, > > > > > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > > > > Maharashtra (India ) > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Simone <shombaz > > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > > > > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is > > no > > > > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas. > > > > > > > > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut > > lovers, > > > > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the > > nuts, > > > > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight. > > > > > > > > > > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > > > > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just > > > my > > > > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed > > inside. > > > > > > > > > > scrathing my head, simone > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > tp mods <tpmods > > > > > > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana > > > Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM > > > > > > > > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > > > > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by > > seeing > > > > physical lookout. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > wrote: > > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > > > > > > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM > > > > > > > > > > Wow ! I cannot believe such a beautiful one Mukhi > > > > Gol Nepalese bead I would be seeing in my life ever. Truely > > > > unbelievable !!!! > > > > > Pl view the following link on www..shaligram. com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaligra m.com/rudraksha/ 1mukhi.php > > > > > > > > > > There is one more very rare Rudraksha also. Watch that also !!! > > > > > > > > > > Really Adarniye Prabhu Rajiv Krishna Dasa is truely blessed > > with > > > > the choicest blessings of Lord Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev > > > > > Siddharth Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, benarsibabu <benarsibabu@ .co. in> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > benarsibabu <benarsibabu@ .co. in> > > > > > Vedic Quote > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 11:44 PM > > > > > > > > > > To seek God too soon is not less sinful > > > > > than to seek God too late; > > > > > we must love, man, woman, or child, > > > > > we must exhaust ambition, intellect, desire, > > > > > dedicating all things as they pass, > > > > > or we come to God with empty hands..... > > > > > > > > > > Avadhuta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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