Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Dear friends, I agree with Abhishek's comments on rudraksha quality. Rudraksha from Nepal are of the highest quality. I would like to share my experience in the field. True rudraksha is of the species Elaeocarpus angustifolius. Earlier names of this species were Elaeocarpus ganitrus, Elaeocarpus spharicus and Elaeocarpus grandis. This information is available on internet. I had shared the links on this information few months back. It is interesting to note that the species of Indonesian rudraksha is also the same i.e. Elaeocarpus angustifolius. In the year 2004, I had deposited beads of few species to the herbarium of the Royal Botanical Garden, Kew, England. The beads of the species I had sent were mainly of Nepal and Indonesian rudraksha, oval two and three mukhi and flat kite shaped two mukhi beads, Chandrakar Ek mukhi etc. I was surprised to know that Indonesian rudraksha and Nepal rudraksha are of the same species i.e. Elaeocarpuis angustifolius. I have seen rudraksha beads upto 37 mukhi in Indonesian type and upto 24 mukhi in Nepal type. Beautiful pictures of 22 and 23 mukhi are displayed on the website Neparudraksha by our friend Mr. Mukunda Khatiwada. Other than 24 mukhi, the picuture of 29 mukhi was displayed on Rudra Centre's website. I think, it is still there. We have rudraksha plants and other few species under the genus Elaeocarpus from Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Maharashtra, Eastern states of India and from the four states of South India. As far as beads of Rudraksha species are concerned, there is vast difference in the quality of beads from Nepal and India. The beads from Nepal are excellent due to ecological conditions mainly cold climatic conditions. Next to Nepal we get better beads from Bihar, however beads from Maharashtra and other south Indian states are of very poor quality mainly due to the warmer temperature. I studied this in two species i.e. Elaeocarpus angustifolius and Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Interestingly, one of my colleague went for collection to the forests of Kerala. She collected few flat two mukhi beads for me from Kerala. I was shocked to see the beautiful well contarted beads from Kerala. I told her that it is difficult to believe that the beads are from Kerala due to the warmer climatic conditions. She smiled and said, though, the beads are from Kerala, those were collected from Munnar hills. If you all know, Munnar is a famous hill station in Kerala and temperature is very low. It is tropical evergreen forest with lowest temperature. My friends from Kerala on this forum may give us more information on cold climatic conditions of Munnar. I also have a collction from Andaman and Nicobar which also shows two mukhi flat beads with poorly contarted surface. Interestingly, there are few species from Indonesian belt which show beautiful stones or beads. Possibly, these are also from the cold climatic conditions of the region. In 2004, I got one beautiful eight mukhi large bead of the new species collected from the county Irian Jaya. The bead was collected by scientists from the Royal Botanical Garden, Kew, England and was sent to me as a gift. I will share its picture on the forum very soon. Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabuRe: RUDRAKSHA CULTIVATIONsacred-objects Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 11:11 AM Dear Sir, The term "Lemons", may be read as Rudraksha fruit of little consequence. You cannot get yield of quality Rudraksha beads anyplace else than the Nepal Himalayas. It's a pity though, but then, how you can question the wisdom of a Rishi's boon. Best Wishes Abhishek tp mods <tpmods > wrote: Abishek Sorry but can you be more specific on below lines of yours,I can't get you. "Anyplace else one shall have to content with lemons...."--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@ .co. in> wrote: Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@ .co. in>Re: RUDRAKSHA CULTIVATIONsacred-objectsFriday, December 19, 2008, 1:46 AM Dear Sir, As far my information goes the Rudraksha Tree bears a nice yield by the 7th year of its plantation. That said 5 mukhi Rudraksha's used in making Special Kantha have a minimum size of 30 mm each. These particular beads are very rare. Around 3 years back I purchased 2 kantha's comprising of 33 beads for Rs.2500 each. & today the wholesale price for this Kantha is a minimum 12,500/-. Last year the trees producing these beads gave a poor yield. So the material is scarce. The only place where you can successfully cultivate good quality Rudraksha in India, are parts of the current Himachal Pradesh. Anyplace else one shall have to content with lemons.... Best Rgds Abhishek himanshu gupte <hrgupte (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Abhishek,I am interested in big size rudraksha... .How big 5 mukhi rudraksha could be??I have two rudraksha trees with me in Pune... although they are 9 yrs old...not fruiting...I believe rudraksha bears fruits after 10 yrs...RegardsH R GupteAbhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@ .co. in> wrote: Sriman, Why are you interested in Rudraksha Cultivation! !!!, well, u can say for sure that primarily due to the specific gravity of certain areas in Nepal & the ambient temprature for nurturing the vital fluids of the Rudraksha Tree, the yield & quality of Nepalese Rudraksha are the best. For example; Giant Sized Beads of 5 Mukhi Rudraksha, which are used in making a specialized kantha, are produced by a select trees, deep in the reserve forest. As far my intel goes only 3 or 4 trees, produce this bead. So to cut it short not only you shall have to be content with lemons, but you shall have to drink your own lemonade. Unless Mahadev feels obliged to do something special for you.... Best MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: From Rudrakasha Ratna or Rudraksha nepal.. Regards Manoj Kar--- On Wed, 17/12/08, medicarelabs <medicarelabs@ > wrote: medicarelabs <medicarelabs@ > RUDRAKSHA CULTIVATIONsacred-objectsWednesday, 17 December, 2008, 10:45 AM I am interested in cultivating all the 35 species of Elaeocarpusgenus(Rudraksha) in Kokan,Maharashtra, India. Where do I get thefruits/seeds/ saplings. tissue culture of the same? Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! 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