Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Hari Om. Dear Dasa Janardana, I agree with much of what you said about naming and outright selling of salagramas. But however, I didn't know that there were 2 of us here on this board using the same name & American spelling (Janardana vs. the indian accented "Janardhana")! Henceforth to avoid confusion as to what speech is actually attributable to myself, and or to yourself, I am to be known as Janardana Dasa of Conyers Georgia, or Conyers Georgia Janardana Dasa. Sincerely, Janardana Dasa of Conyers Georgia--- On Sat, 11/29/08, dasajanardana <dasajanardana wrote: dasajanardana <dasajanardana Nomenclature of Shaligram Silassacred-objects Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 5:43 AM Hare Krishna , My Friends , I returned from my trip to India recently . What a trip it was at the feet of my Lord at Mathura in Vrindavan ! This time had chance to Pick up Sacred Shaligram Silas from Haridwar . Then to identify them I was glancing through information on web . I discovered various shocking facts . There are now couple of websites selling these Silas at sky rocketing prices . But is more surprising is that there is absolutely no limit as to how these suppliers have stretched imagination to the naming the Lord . There are Shaligrams called the names below which is incorrect naming seemingly to give them a big names attributing several properties and thus to charge high amounts Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha Sarvottam Golden Laxmi Shesha Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Maha Vishnu Sarvottam Jenyudhari Shweta Hayagriva Varaha Dev Adwaitya Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Mahavishnu Kalki Mahadev Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas According to the Prapanchasaara (quoted in Praanatoshanitantra page 373.) Lord Vishnu has his fifty different form each of which may be worsipped in a Shalagram Stone. His forms are given below: Keshav , Narayana, Maahava, Govinda, Madhusudana, Trivikrama, Vamana, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Padmanabha, Damodara, Vaasudeva, Sankarshana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha ,Chakrin, Gadin, Sharngin, khadgin, Shankin, Halin, Musalin, Soolin, Paashin, Ankushin, Mukunda, Nandaja, Nandin, Nara, Narakajit, Hari, Krishna, Satya, Saatvata, Shauri, Shuri, Janaradana, Bhudhaarin, Vishvamurthi, Vaikuntha, Purushottama, Balin, Balaanuja, Bala, Vrishagnha, Vrisha, Hamsa, Varaha, Vimala, Nrisimha. We learn from different puranas that in former days Shalagrams were divided into 24 varieties, their names according to the Skandapurana being as follows: Keshava, Madhusudana, Shankarshan , Daamodara, Vaasudeva, Pradyumna, Vishnu, Maadhava, Ananta, Purushottama, Adhokshaja, Janaardan , Govinda, Trivikrama, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Nrisimha, Vishvayoni, Vaamana, Naaraayana, Pundarikaaksh, Upendra, Hari, Krishna. (Skanda Purana, Nagarckhanda, 244. 3-9) In the Brahmavaivarattapur ana (Prakrtikhanda, chapter21.) we get the following description of the different varieties of Shaligrams: 1) Lakshminarayana : In colour he resembles a new cloud and has a single opening marked with four circular prints. A linear mark resembling a vanamala (a particular kind of garland held by Lord Vishnu, or series of forests) is also printed on his body.2) Lakshmijanaardan: The above type without the mark of vanamala. 3) Raghunatha: He has two openings with any mark of vanamala. his body also is marked with the footprint of a cow, but not with any mark of vanamala.4) Dadhivamana: Very small in size with two circular marks, and having the colour of a new cloud.5) Shridhar : The above type with an additional mark of vanamala.6) Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala.7) Ranarama : round and middle in shape with prints of arrows all over hid body. He must have two circular marks and prints of a quiver with arrows on his body.8) Rajarajeshwara : Middle in size, having seven circular marks and also the marks of an umbrella and grass (or quiver) on his body.9) Ananta : Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body.10) Madhusudhan : Round in shape, middle in size and charming to look at. He has two circular marks and a footprint of a cow on his body.11) Sudarshan : With single circular mark.12) Gadadhara: With a hidden circular mark.13) Hayagriva : with two circular marks and having the shape of the face of a horse.14) Narsimha : having a large opening with two circular marks, and glittering to look at.15) Laxminarsimha : Having a big opening with two circular marks, and also marked with a vanamala.16) Vaasudeva : Evenly shaped and charming to look at, having two circular marks at the front of his opening.17) Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body.18) Shankarshan : He has two circular marks joined with each other on the top side o his body.19) Aniriddha: Round in shape, glaced and charming to look at, and having the yellowish or black colour. There are more forms of Lord including the Dasavatara form in the other texts , which I cannot mention due to space constraint and you may read in http://www.salagram .net/sstp- salkosh1ch. html which has text from Salagram Kosha which is the authentic book describing these silas . However these commercial websites are using their own nomenclature which is quite against the information in these scriptures . Now Bhur Bhuvas Gayatri cannot be a form of the Lord and Kali and 9 forms of Goddess cannot be Lord's form . Yes Laxmi is mentioned as His consort , so this form is present .. Similarly Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha , or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu, or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha or Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas cannot be one single form of a Sila . The buyers need to Wake up and not trust the words of the suppliers blindly . Also there is absolutely no relation with the description of the Shaligram Sila as noted in the Scriptures with what these suppliers are selling . For eg:- please see the description of Silas above and match with the pictures they are selling . Sila Ananta needs to be "Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body, " , Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body, Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala. The Silas are identified by these suppliers in any random way , befooling the people .. So dear Friends , wake up . Do not merely read the website words and follow blindly . Do not pay such sky rocketing prices . You cannot "Buy" the Lord . Worship the Lord with Sheer devotion and pure love . He is everywhere . Take any Shaligram Sila and see Him in that . He is formless , the absolute . Janardana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Hare Krishna Prabhu Janardana ji, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.I would like to give an answer to all your querries personally after a week Prabhu. I am presently on tour at Gandaki River at Nepal amongst array of Lord Shaligram Shilas and would be returning back to Mumbai on 08 Dec Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devay NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day,Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram,Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 932264642100 91 93226464200091 22 24459616salagram8shaligram8Address105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,Narayan Pathare Marg,Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 Maharashtra (India )--- On Sat, 29/11/08, dasajanardana <dasajanardana wrote: dasajanardana <dasajanardana Nomenclature of Shaligram Silassacred-objects Date: Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 2:43 AM Hare Krishna , My Friends , I returned from my trip to India recently . What a trip it was at the feet of my Lord at Mathura in Vrindavan ! This time had chance to Pick up Sacred Shaligram Silas from Haridwar . Then to identify them I was glancing through information on web . I discovered various shocking facts . There are now couple of websites selling these Silas at sky rocketing prices . But is more surprising is that there is absolutely no limit as to how these suppliers have stretched imagination to the naming the Lord . There are Shaligrams called the names below which is incorrect naming seemingly to give them a big names attributing several properties and thus to charge high amounts Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha Sarvottam Golden Laxmi Shesha Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Maha Vishnu Sarvottam Jenyudhari Shweta Hayagriva Varaha Dev Adwaitya Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Mahavishnu Kalki Mahadev Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas According to the Prapanchasaara (quoted in Praanatoshanitantra page 373.) Lord Vishnu has his fifty different form each of which may be worsipped in a Shalagram Stone. His forms are given below: Keshav , Narayana, Maahava, Govinda, Madhusudana, Trivikrama, Vamana, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Padmanabha, Damodara, Vaasudeva, Sankarshana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha ,Chakrin, Gadin, Sharngin, khadgin, Shankin, Halin, Musalin, Soolin, Paashin, Ankushin, Mukunda, Nandaja, Nandin, Nara, Narakajit, Hari, Krishna, Satya, Saatvata, Shauri, Shuri, Janaradana, Bhudhaarin, Vishvamurthi, Vaikuntha, Purushottama, Balin, Balaanuja, Bala, Vrishagnha, Vrisha, Hamsa, Varaha, Vimala, Nrisimha. We learn from different puranas that in former days Shalagrams were divided into 24 varieties, their names according to the Skandapurana being as follows: Keshava, Madhusudana, Shankarshan , Daamodara, Vaasudeva, Pradyumna, Vishnu, Maadhava, Ananta, Purushottama, Adhokshaja, Janaardan , Govinda, Trivikrama, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Nrisimha, Vishvayoni, Vaamana, Naaraayana, Pundarikaaksh, Upendra, Hari, Krishna. (Skanda Purana, Nagarckhanda, 244. 3-9) In the Brahmavaivarattapur ana (Prakrtikhanda, chapter21.) we get the following description of the different varieties of Shaligrams: 1) Lakshminarayana : In colour he resembles a new cloud and has a single opening marked with four circular prints. A linear mark resembling a vanamala (a particular kind of garland held by Lord Vishnu, or series of forests) is also printed on his body.2) Lakshmijanaardan: The above type without the mark of vanamala. 3) Raghunatha: He has two openings with any mark of vanamala. his body also is marked with the footprint of a cow, but not with any mark of vanamala.4) Dadhivamana: Very small in size with two circular marks, and having the colour of a new cloud.5) Shridhar : The above type with an additional mark of vanamala.6) Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala.7) Ranarama : round and middle in shape with prints of arrows all over hid body. He must have two circular marks and prints of a quiver with arrows on his body.8) Rajarajeshwara : Middle in size, having seven circular marks and also the marks of an umbrella and grass (or quiver) on his body.9) Ananta : Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body.10) Madhusudhan : Round in shape, middle in size and charming to look at. He has two circular marks and a footprint of a cow on his body.11) Sudarshan : With single circular mark.12) Gadadhara: With a hidden circular mark.13) Hayagriva : with two circular marks and having the shape of the face of a horse.14) Narsimha : having a large opening with two circular marks, and glittering to look at.15) Laxminarsimha : Having a big opening with two circular marks, and also marked with a vanamala.16) Vaasudeva : Evenly shaped and charming to look at, having two circular marks at the front of his opening.17) Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body.18) Shankarshan : He has two circular marks joined with each other on the top side o his body.19) Aniriddha: Round in shape, glaced and charming to look at, and having the yellowish or black colour. There are more forms of Lord including the Dasavatara form in the other texts , which I cannot mention due to space constraint and you may read in http://www.salagram .net/sstp- salkosh1ch. html which has text from Salagram Kosha which is the authentic book describing these silas . However these commercial websites are using their own nomenclature which is quite against the information in these scriptures . Now Bhur Bhuvas Gayatri cannot be a form of the Lord and Kali and 9 forms of Goddess cannot be Lord's form . Yes Laxmi is mentioned as His consort , so this form is present .. Similarly Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha , or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu, or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha or Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas cannot be one single form of a Sila . The buyers need to Wake up and not trust the words of the suppliers blindly . Also there is absolutely no relation with the description of the Shaligram Sila as noted in the Scriptures with what these suppliers are selling . For eg:- please see the description of Silas above and match with the pictures they are selling . Sila Ananta needs to be "Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body, " , Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body, Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala. The Silas are identified by these suppliers in any random way , befooling the people .. So dear Friends , wake up . Do not merely read the website words and follow blindly . Do not pay such sky rocketing prices . You cannot "Buy" the Lord . Worship the Lord with Sheer devotion and pure love .. He is everywhere . Take any Shaligram Sila and see Him in that . He is formless , the absolute . Janardana Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hare Krishna, Further to my post earlier, I would like to have the expert opinion of the members. Janardana sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Janardana ji, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > I would like to give an answer to all your querries personally after a week Prabhu. I am presently on tour at Gandaki River at Nepal amongst array of Lord Shaligram Shilas and would be returning back to Mumbai on 08 Dec Prabhu. > I hope this will help, > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devay Namaha > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day, > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram, > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu, > Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > 00 91 9322646421 > 00 91 9322646420 > 0091 22 24459616 > salagram8 > shaligram8 > Address > 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate, > Narayan Pathare Marg, > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > Maharashtra (India ) > > --- On Sat, 29/11/08, dasajanardana <dasajanardana wrote: > > dasajanardana <dasajanardana > Nomenclature of Shaligram Silas > sacred-objects > Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 2:43 AM > Hare Krishna , > My Friends , I returned from my trip to India recently . What a trip it was at the feet of my Lord at Mathura in Vrindavan ! This time had chance to Pick up Sacred Shaligram Silas from Haridwar . Then to identify them I was glancing through information on web . I discovered various shocking facts . There are now couple of websites selling these Silas at sky rocketing prices . But is more surprising is that there is absolutely no limit as to how these suppliers have stretched imagination to the naming the Lord . There are Shaligrams called the names below which is incorrect naming seemingly to give them a big names attributing several properties and thus to charge high amounts > > Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha > Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu > Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha > Sarvottam Golden Laxmi Shesha Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Maha Vishnu > Sarvottam Jenyudhari Shweta Hayagriva Varaha Dev > Adwaitya Golden Kamal Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Mahavishnu Kalki Mahadev > Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas > According to the Prapanchasaara (quoted in Praanatoshanitantra page 373.) Lord Vishnu has his fifty different form each of which may be worsipped in a Shalagram Stone. His forms are given below: Keshav , Narayana, Maahava, Govinda, Madhusudana, Trivikrama, Vamana, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Padmanabha, Damodara, Vaasudeva, Sankarshana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha ,Chakrin, Gadin, Sharngin, khadgin, Shankin, Halin, Musalin, Soolin, Paashin, Ankushin, Mukunda, Nandaja, Nandin, Nara, Narakajit, Hari, Krishna, Satya, Saatvata, Shauri, Shuri, Janaradana, Bhudhaarin, Vishvamurthi, Vaikuntha, Purushottama, Balin, Balaanuja, Bala, Vrishagnha, Vrisha, Hamsa, Varaha, Vimala, Nrisimha. > We learn from different puranas that in former days Shalagrams were divided into 24 varieties, their names according to the Skandapurana being as follows: Keshava, Madhusudana, Shankarshan , Daamodara, Vaasudeva, Pradyumna, Vishnu, Maadhava, Ananta, Purushottama, Adhokshaja, Janaardan , Govinda, Trivikrama, Shridhar, Hrishikesha, Nrisimha, Vishvayoni, Vaamana, Naaraayana, Pundarikaaksh, Upendra, Hari, Krishna. (Skanda Purana, Nagarckhanda, 244. 3-9) >  In the Brahmavaivarattapur ana (Prakrtikhanda, chapter21.) we get the following description of the different varieties of Shaligrams: > 1) Lakshminarayana : In colour he resembles a new cloud and has a single opening marked with four circular prints. A linear mark resembling a vanamala (a particular kind of garland held by Lord Vishnu, or series of forests) is also printed on his body. > 2) Lakshmijanaardan: The above type without the mark of vanamala. > 3) Raghunatha: He has two openings with any mark of vanamala. his body also is marked with the footprint of a cow, but not with any mark of vanamala. > 4) Dadhivamana: Very small in size with two circular marks, and having the colour of a new cloud. > 5) Shridhar : The above type with an additional mark of vanamala. > 6) Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala. > 7) Ranarama : round and middle in shape with prints of arrows all over hid body. He must have two circular marks and prints of a quiver with arrows on his body. > 8) Rajarajeshwara : Middle in size, having seven circular marks and also the marks of an umbrella and grass (or quiver) on his body. > 9) Ananta : Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body. > 10) Madhusudhan : Round in shape, middle in size and charming to look at. He has two circular marks and a footprint of a cow on his body. > 11) Sudarshan : With single circular mark. > 12) Gadadhara: With a hidden circular mark. > 13) Hayagriva : with two circular marks and having the shape of the face of a horse. > 14) Narsimha : having a large opening with two circular marks, and glittering to look at. > 15) Laxminarsimha : Having a big opening with two circular marks, and also marked with a vanamala. > 16) Vaasudeva : Evenly shaped and charming to look at, having two circular marks at the front of his opening. > 17) Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body. > 18) Shankarshan : He has two circular marks joined with each other on the top side o his body. > 19) Aniriddha: Round in shape, glaced and charming to look at, and having the yellowish or black colour. > There are more forms of Lord including the Dasavatara form in the other texts , which I cannot mention due to space constraint and you may read in http://www.salagram .net/sstp- salkosh1ch. html which has text from Salagram Kosha which is the authentic book describing these silas . However these commercial websites are using their own nomenclature which is quite against the information in these scriptures . Now Bhur Bhuvas Gayatri cannot be a form of the Lord and Kali and 9 forms of Goddess cannot be Lord's form . Yes Laxmi is mentioned as His consort , so this form is present .. Similarly Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Netradhari Laxmi Vishvaksena Maha Ganesha , or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Laxmi hayagriva Kalki Maha Vishnu, or Sacred Adwaitya Shweta Shashidhara Chandramauli Kalp Laxmi Vishvaksena Ganesha or Sacred double Golden Kamal Santan Gopal Matsya Chaturbhuj Chakradhari Bhur Bhuvas     cannot be one single form of a Sila   .  The > buyers need to Wake up and not trust the words of the suppliers blindly . Also there is absolutely no relation with the description of the Shaligram Sila as noted in the Scriptures with what these suppliers are selling . For eg:- please see the description of Silas above and match with the pictures they are selling . Sila Ananta needs to be " Big in size with the colour of a new cloud and having 14 circular marks on his body,  " , Pradyumna : with the colour of a new cloud, and having a small circular mark and several small holes on his body, Daamodara : Big in size with a round shape and two circular marks, but not having the mark of vanamala. The Silas are identified by these suppliers in any random way , befooling the people . So dear Friends , wake up . Do not merely read the website words and follow blindly . Do not pay such sky rocketing prices . You cannot " Buy " the Lord . Worship the Lord with Sheer devotion and pure > love . He is everywhere . Take any Shaligram Sila and see Him in that . He is formless , the absolute . > Janardana > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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