Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Sirs, this regard earlier post it got posted self lateral I must have pressed wrong key The RSA concretion (1 of the 2 obtained) has a Colorimetric spectra reading now. Strangely, the pearl is calcareous of which, the main band corresponds to Calcium Carbonate, but not of aragonite or concholin. The second lesser band suggest to correspond to silica concretions which are of silcon derivatives The third minimal band ( a very thin band means very minute quantities) suggest polysaccharide called hemicellulose There is hardly any luster and the pearl still intact is turning brownish platina from the original ash grey color. The absence of dentine is observed and so is absence of ivory in elephant concretion The elephant behaviour is same as said in your english translation rutting and fiercely a loner. I made a mental note then (written in my notes) that due to extremely undue all seasonal rutting, there might be phsiological-disgestive abnormalities. As the polysaccharide called hemicellulose is known only to be found in plant species, but present in a thin line spectrum in the concretion. The color brownish (same as light dark chocolate)now is identical to those so called gaja mukthas we have in our grandfathers' ancestral house in Rangoon, and other houses in Sao Paulo and Singapore. Thank you P.S New brainstone on Chintamani Stone, Cloud Pearl and Nagamani I just re-visted the NY Museum of Natural History on 81, to have a re- valuation assessment of the part of the Chintamani Stone (in the Humanities) , that was given to Nichol League of Nations to return back to Tibet, part of it was given to Roosevelt by Roenrich but the main piece was returned to Tibet. It was deposited in MNH by its founder Roosevelt. Its chlorophane all right luminous verily as cobrastone chlorophane,and cloud pearl (from Sirius) I suggested further new study as Becquerel used Nagamani/Cobrastone in his discovery of Radiation Rays. Fluorescence of Metallic Compounds under the Influence oL Rontgen and Becquerel Rays. By PAULB ARY(C ompt. rend., 1900, 130, 776--'778). The Elements which Produce Phosphorescence in Minerals. Case of Ghlorophane a Variety of Fluorspar. GEORGESU RBAIN (Compt. rmd., 1906, 143, 885-827. Compare Abstr., 1906, ii, 28,138, 359, 510, 674).-l'he phosphorescent spectrum of chlorophane has already been described by Becquerel (Abstr., 1891, 776) sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Thank you. Very interesting. QUESTION: Is Gaja Moti a ball of ivory, a > natural formation? Or is it just a ball cut from ivory? How to > identify this sacred object? > > As for getting shot at 11 times and hit in the head, that doesn't > sound very lucky to me. I never heard of anyone shot at 11 times. > Maybe if he removes the Moti people will stop shooting at him!? > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777@> > wrote: > > > > > > dear friend! > > > > the price of gajamuthu in sri lanka rages from 700$ to 2500$, > depending on how desperate people are,since their govermant have a > very poor economy......just need to know people...Personaly I have a > friend in s.lanka, he is just another common man, and he has gajamuthu > around his neck, and he has been shoot at 11 times, one bullet is > still in his head.....It is a priceless commodity....He is still > alive......If I would tell you the truth about it, you just wouldn't > believe me...It's like a movie, and I guess that you are quite aware > about it.... > > > > best wishes vjenceslav > > > > > > > > sacred-objects@: bala_songyi@: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:31:25 > +0000 Re: gajamuthu > > > > > > > > > > Gaja mukthaThere is a source in RSA, where you can make a bid and if > your offer is accepted, you can witness the sawing of a ivory tusk of > the elephant with known Gaja Muthu existence in its tusk, ie the > rolling noise audible from the tusk..They will tranquilize the > elephant, to saw of the tusk or both as you wish to bid, but the tusk > is the properties of the game park, you can only have the whatever > noise making substances within the ivory tusk.and its solely depends > on good luck on your part, from tiny pieces of gram like substances to > good pea size, and with very good fortune to sizes of water jambo > fruit.Whatever you bid must be registered in six months advance with a > deposit and you should make at least 3 to 4 trips to see your > allocated pet elephant on safari trips with radio sensors to listen > carefully to the inserted radio sensing transmitters on the elephant, > which are inserted after your registering and deposit payments.You > will need at least US$ 35000 to 80000 excluding your safari trips > expense which are separate.The most impportant smart thing to do is > documentate officially the entire transaction, and where possible seek > assistance of or commission an IVY League University in statesside to > document the studies of a purported issue of existence of free > concretions within the tusks of elephant. Never tried to be under > table, probably you will lose your money with nothing in return.If you > wish to do so, perhaps as claimed in the Sri Lankan newspaper can be > verified as extra studies, as if you approached with studies/univ > backing, chances you are accepted to seek a pearl, but if you appeared > as Indiana Jones individual in search of a myth/legends chances are > you will be fool out of your money, on official basis, as RSA is not > that society as it was during afrikanna apartitet, with rule of white > law/justice with fairness in trade.That trade justice society is over > with equal black RS african balance of power to adminstrate.Anyway, if > you are keen, I will send a scan copy of Aus.Gem'gist issue, where a > third party testing lab athenticate without knowledge of the > source/origin to satisfy my intelluctual curosity about 6 years ago. I > will do so when I am home in NY or try to seek do it viany office > staffhope this info is useBMWE/O acceptable as from a tiny notebook > with tiny keyboardsacred-objects , summa iru > anama <typhon777@> wrote:>> > Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu > (proposition) :> > Following article has been published in Sri Lankan > " Sunday Times " March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirm > gajamuthu 'facts' suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .> > By Asuntha > Edirisooriya> > ....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits of > gajamuthu pearls from the initial stages of their formation to > maturity in all their glory and the temple doors are open to anyone > interested in studying or seeing the " real " pearls.Many dealers pass > off pieces of tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent of > the temple, Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as the > pearl harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand gets > embedded within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with the > collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, > growing like a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an elephant > lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to > be formed " , the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across > tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the > surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful > texture losing its lustre. " The pearl starts off as a tiny grain > within the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on the > tusker, " Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gather > information about this precious stone in his research ventures that > took him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation on > display at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China and > Hong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.> > Is This > Statment True ?> > ....those in elephant tusks come about with the > collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, > growing like a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an elephant > lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to > be formed " , the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across > tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the > surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful > texture losing its lustre...> > > Vjenceslav > > > > > To: > sacred-objects@: bala_songyi@: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41 +0000Subject: > All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-Fluorite) .Not > formed from harden venom !> > > > > Dear SirsAs there many well- versed > knowledgable intelluctuals and keen observers here in this groupMy > proposition/propose draft of Letter to Editor--------------I am > drafting a letter to Editor of Australian Gemologist to debunk the age > old myths of Cobra Venom being harden into a luminious > crystal.Meanwhile, proposing that Cobras usually by nature acquire the > luminious gemstone (commonly called Cobrastone, throught the ages in > gemology) from the dried out river beds in summer, in Ceylon, India > and Burma, as the cobras are also insect eating reptile, and the > luminious gem also attracts small rodent in the night, by its > luminosity.The references I got (other than this group post of earlier > articles), from Hemsdolt and the peer physical review of the 4 cobra > gems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS (Amer. Acad.Advancement of > Sciences)and reprint of the peer review (1896) by NYT (New York > Times)..The other offside notion of my theory is the Chintamani stone > of Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend to Franklin Rosevelt) is > that Green color (moldavite like) stone that Roenrich took to Hague > for the incorporation of League of Nations for World Peace and back to > Tibet, after the collapse of the League by Hilter's unilateral > actions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but maybe of meteorite > origin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As known from analysis > of meteors, its possible fluorite formation in meteors, and inclusion > of deayed Radioactive particles that are luminious at night (for > example Radium was)., which are technically referred as chlorophane. > However not all chlorophanes are luminious eternally (forever)as its > due to the chemical composition, especially the radioactive decays > matters most.The cobras seems to have a nack to select the best > forever luminious varieties as they have the freedom to crawl on dried > riverbeds at night and chance upon such luminosity stones.All the > Roenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a glow, as in his museum in > 101 S Street South Side NY city.There is small side track as the Now > only partly declassified US Army archive of Hilter's Emissaries to > Tibet, and the so-called anthropolgy records they bring back to > Germany and their fate after the lenghty debrief of the trip are > available, It seems F Rosevelt has an interest as FreeMason in Tibet, > via his closest friend Roenrich who instigate FR to include the All > Seeing Eye in the US$ one bills (pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) and > so do Hitler in latter Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THERE > IS RIDLEY, too on the same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946) > given his theoriesMy mention of composition make up is not a > hpyothesis but real hard science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200 > years old possessed in the family, and wide range of chlorophane > collections in the past 25 years, from various sources, while the most > recent additions are from Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeks > and the folklores there in Siberia as they call it in a name similar > to cobrastone too, or serpent stones but in russian names...with > cossack variations in names.There are similarity to China in the > folklore (science and civilization in China 3 volume) " The Night > Shining Pearls " and Roman and Greek civilizations use of the Chinese > exports of night shining pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1st > millineum after christ and latter 300 final years of Before Christ of > the Greeks(via now Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet Silk > Route).As the draft is already lenghty, I summarise another > interesting fact,is the mongoose is vehicle of Lord Kuber, and > supposed to be his bank of priceless gems,where are kept, as the > cobras are delicacies of mongoose, so cobrastones along with entire > cobra are eaten,. Therefore the cobrastones given a kind of antidotal > relief from the venomous bites of the cobra during the fight and then > dinner of the smitten cobra by mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD > DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATED > JUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED OBJECTSI have loaded the almost > completed draft elsewhere, like Am Philosphical Soc., but as we all > know it takes time to receive brickbats or bouquets as academics, this > group is most vibrant as there is vest interest to the knowledge > gained.With Best RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine > > > > > > > > ________> Connect to > the next generation of MSN Messenger > > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- us & source=wlmailtagline> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > > > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- us & source=wlmailtagline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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