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Yes! And the fundamental teaching or beginning of jnana is to overcome

the bodily concept. I am Indian, I am Vaishya, I am man, I am young, I

I I --- all bodily misconception or Maya, illusion. If a Hindu doesn't

understand that he is NOT Indian nor any other nationality, then he is

not a Hindu at all. He is a Nara-adama. Ajnani. A fool! So there is no

place for materialistic knee-jerk politics nor BS nationalism in true

" atma-vidya " also known as Hinduism.

 

Thanks for the interesting and valuable post...

 

Y/s,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , " h. r. gupte " <hrgupte wrote:

>

> Here is something I found on net....just sharing with you ...

>

> Hindus belive Ekam sat bahudavadanti Vipra....

> Means truth is one...it manifests in deffrent form...

>

> Hindus believe in one supreme God who created the universe and who is

> worshipped as Light, Love and Consciousness.

>

>

> Hindus believe that there is one all-pervasive God which energizes

> the entire universe. We can see Him in the life shining out of the

> eyes of humans and all creatures.

>

>

> We Hindus believe that there is one all-pervasive God which energizes

> the entire universe. We can see Him in the life shining out of the

> eyes of humans and all creatures

>

>

> This concept of God as existing in and giving life to all things is

> called " panentheism. " It is different from pantheism, which is the

> belief that God is the natural universe and nothing more. It is also

> different from theism which says God is only above the world.

> Panentheism is a beautiful concept. It says that God is both in the

> world and beyond it, both immanent and transcendent

>

>

> He is invisible, unmanifest and Nirguna (formless), but to please his

> devotees whose mind cannot comprehend His glory, He takes on forms to

> bless them.

>

>

> Shankara in his lalita trishati bhashya explains this very

> clearly,.....

>

>

> bhaktaanugrahaaka vigraha vattam vinaa devataayaa buddhavanaaropeNa

> saguNopaasana vigrahavantah aN^gikartavyaa iti pratishhThaapitam

>

>

>

> If the dieties do not possess forms to bless their devotees, the

> devotees cannot grasp them mentally and sagunopaasana becomes

> impossible..

>

>

> But how should we worship ?

>

> Shankara says in the bhashya on how to worship

>

>

>

> tathaapi tadapavaada purassaram shuddha chaitanyaabheda dhyana ruupa

> mukhya bhajanam mukhya meva

>

>

>

> A devotee must meditate only on his oneness with pure awareness in

> worship.

>

>

>

> When a devotee approaches Ishvara or Ishta-devata with reverence, he

> thinks he is the body. He has the dehatma-buddhi.

>

>

>

> Thus shrii shankara further explains this in the aatmashhaTakaM

>

>

>

> manobuddhyaha.nkaarachittaani naahaM na cha shrotrajivhe na cha

> ghraaNanetre . na cha vyomabhuumiH na tejo na vaayuH

> chidaana.ndaruupaH shivo.ahaM shivo.aham.h

>

>

>

> I am not the intellect, ego, mind. Neither am I hearing, taste,

> smell, sight. Nor am I space, earth, light, air, field of

> consciousness. I am the pure consciousness of bliss. I am Shiva. I am

> Shiva.

>

>

>

> daasaste.ahaM dehadR^ ishhTyaa.asmi shaMbho jaatasteM.asho

> jiivadR^ishhTyaa tridR^ishhTe |

>

> sarvasyaa.a.atmannaatmadR ^ishhTyaa tvameve\- tyevaM me

> dhiirnishchitaa sarvashaastraiH ||

>

>

>

> Oh Lord ! In the form of body I am your servant. In the form of life,

> O three-eyed one, I am part of yourself. In the form of soul, you are

> within me and in every other soul. I have arrived at this conclusion

> through my intellect and on the authority of the various scriptures.

>

>

>

> In 'Devi Mhatmya'... it is explained further...

>

>

>

> Salutations to the divine Mother who exists in all beings in various

> forms such as intelligence, mercy and beauty. Thou art the embodiment

> of all power. Thou art the sole refuge for all "

>

>

>

>

>

> devii-maahaatmya,

>

> adhyaaya 5, shlokas 14-80

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu vishhNumAyeti shabditA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 14-16||

>

>

>

> 14-16. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who in all beings is

> called Vishnumaya.

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu chetanetyabhidhIyate |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 17-19||

>

>

>

>

>

> 17-19. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings as consciousness;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu buddhirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 20-22||

>

>

>

>

>

> 20-22. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of intelligence;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu nidrArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 23-25||

>

>

>

>

>

> 23-25. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of sleep;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu kshudhArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 26-28||

>

>

>

>

>

> 26-28. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of hunger:

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu chhAyArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 29-31||

>

29-31. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of reflection;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu shaktirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 32-34||

>

>

>

>

>

> 32-34. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of power .

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu tR^ishhNArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 35-37||

>

35-37. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of thirst;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu kshAntirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 38-40||

>

38-40. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of forgiveness;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu jAtirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 41-43||

>

>

>

>

>

> 41-43. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of genus;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu lajjArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 44-46||

>

>

>

>

>

> 44-46. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of modesty;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu shAntirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 47-49||

>

>

>

>

>

> 47-49. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of peace;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu shraddhArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 50-52||

>

>

>

>

>

> 50-52. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of faith;

>

yA devI sarvabhUteshhu kAntirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 53-55||

>

53-55. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of loveliness;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu lakshmIrUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 56-58||

>

>

>

>

>

> 56-58. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of good fortune;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu vR^ittirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 59-61||

>

>

>

>

>

> 59-61. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of activity;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu smR^itirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 62-64||

>

>

>

>

>

> 62-64. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of memory ;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu dayArUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 65-67||

>

>

>

>

>

> 65-67. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of compassion;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu tushhTirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 68-70||

>

>

>

>

>

> 68-70. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of contentment;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu mAtR^irUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 71-73||

>

>

>

>

>

> 71-73. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of mother;

>

>

>

>

>

> yA devI sarvabhUteshhu bhrAntirUpeNa sa.nsthitA |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 74-76||

>

>

>

>

>

> 74-76. 'Salutations again and again to the Devi who abides in all

> beings in the form of error;

>

>

>

>

>

> indriyANAmadhishhThAtrI bhuutAnAJNchAkhileshhu yA |

>

> bhUteshhu satataM tasyai vyAptidevyai namo namaH || 77||

>

>

>

>

>

> 77. 'Salutations again and again to the all-pervading Devi who

> constantly presides over the senses of all beings and (governs) all

> the elements;

>

>

>

>

>

> chitirUpeNa yA kR^ itsnametad.hvyApya sthitA jagat.h |

>

> namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namaH || 78-80||

>

>

>

>

>

> 78-80. 'Salutations again and again to her who, pervading the entire

> world, abides in the form of consciousness.

>

>

>

> sacred-objects , anne thakur <annethakur@>

> wrote:

> >

> > The era of the Gurus

> > Sketch: Beatles goes hindu and now everyone want their own sitar to

> levitate with in their back yard ashram. The Brahmins get a new fate

> in the American Express Company. The Brahma Kumaris take over the

> Indian Government, then the United Nations just before the world is

> destroyed by Nuclear Bombs leaving just 900,000 of their followers to

> enjoy heaven on earth

> > they are all pretty funny.

> >

>

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