RE: gajamuthu

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Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu (proposition) :

 

Following article has been published in Sri Lankan "Sunday Times" March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirm gajamuthu 'facts' suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .

 

By Asuntha Edirisooriya

 

.....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits of gajamuthu pearls from the initial stages of their formation to maturity in all their glory and the temple doors are open to anyone interested in studying or seeing the "real" pearls.Many dealers pass off pieces of tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent of the temple, Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as the pearl harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand gets embedded within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with the collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephant lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to be formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful texture losing its lustre. "The pearl starts off as a tiny grain within the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on the tusker," Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gather information about this precious stone in his research ventures that took him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation on display at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China and Hong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.

 

Is This Statment True ?

 

.....those in elephant tusks come about with the collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephant lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to be formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful texture losing its lustre...

 

 

Vjenceslav

 

 

 

 

sacred-objects From: bala_songyiDate: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41 +0000 All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-Fluorite) .Not formed from harden venom !

 

 

 

Dear SirsAs there many well-versed knowledgable intelluctuals and keen observers here in this groupMy proposition/propose draft of Letter to Editor--------------I am drafting a letter to Editor of Australian Gemologist to debunk the age old myths of Cobra Venom being harden into a luminious crystal.Meanwhile, proposing that Cobras usually by nature acquire the luminious gemstone (commonly called Cobrastone, throught the ages in gemology) from the dried out river beds in summer, in Ceylon, India and Burma, as the cobras are also insect eating reptile, and the luminious gem also attracts small rodent in the night, by its luminosity.The references I got (other than this group post of earlier articles), from Hemsdolt and the peer physical review of the 4 cobra gems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS (Amer. Acad.Advancement of Sciences)and reprint of the peer review (1896) by NYT (New York Times)..The other offside notion of my theory is the Chintamani stone of Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend to Franklin Rosevelt) is that Green color (moldavite like) stone that Roenrich took to Hague for the incorporation of League of Nations for World Peace and back to Tibet, after the collapse of the League by Hilter's unilateral actions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but maybe of meteorite origin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As known from analysis of meteors, its possible fluorite formation in meteors, and inclusion of deayed Radioactive particles that are luminious at night (for example Radium was)., which are technically referred as chlorophane. However not all chlorophanes are luminious eternally (forever)as its due to the chemical composition, especially the radioactive decays matters most.The cobras seems to have a nack to select the best forever luminious varieties as they have the freedom to crawl on dried riverbeds at night and chance upon such luminosity stones.All the Roenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a glow, as in his museum in 101 S Street South Side NY city.There is small side track as the Now only partly declassified US Army archive of Hilter's Emissaries to Tibet, and the so-called anthropolgy records they bring back to Germany and their fate after the lenghty debrief of the trip are available, It seems F Rosevelt has an interest as FreeMason in Tibet, via his closest friend Roenrich who instigate FR to include the All Seeing Eye in the US$ one bills (pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) and so do Hitler in latter Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THERE IS RIDLEY, too on the same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946) given his theoriesMy mention of composition make up is not a hpyothesis but real hard science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200 years old possessed in the family, and wide range of chlorophane collections in the past 25 years, from various sources, while the most recent additions are from Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeks and the folklores there in Siberia as they call it in a name similar to cobrastone too, or serpent stones but in russian names...with cossack variations in names.There are similarity to China in the folklore (science and civilization in China 3 volume) "The Night Shining Pearls" and Roman and Greek civilizations use of the Chinese exports of night shining pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1st millineum after christ and latter 300 final years of Before Christ of the Greeks(via now Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet Silk Route).As the draft is already lenghty, I summarise another interesting fact,is the mongoose is vehicle of Lord Kuber, and supposed to be his bank of priceless gems,where are kept, as the cobras are delicacies of mongoose, so cobrastones along with entire cobra are eaten,. Therefore the cobrastones given a kind of antidotal relief from the venomous bites of the cobra during the fight and then dinner of the smitten cobra by mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATED JUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED OBJECTSI have loaded the almost completed draft elsewhere, like Am Philosphical Soc., but as we all know it takes time to receive brickbats or bouquets as academics, this group is most vibrant as there is vest interest to the knowledge gained.With Best RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  Get it now!

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Gaja muktha

There is a source in RSA, where you can make a bid and if your offer

is accepted, you can witness the sawing of a ivory tusk of the

elephant with known Gaja Muthu existence in its tusk, ie the rolling

noise audible from the tusk..

They will tranquilize the elephant, to saw of the tusk or both as you

wish to bid, but the tusk is the properties of the game park, you can

only have the whatever noise making substances within the ivory tusk.

and its solely depends on good luck on your part, from tiny pieces of

gram like substances to good pea size, and with very good fortune to

sizes of water jambo fruit.

 

Whatever you bid must be registered in six months advance with a

deposit and you should make at least 3 to 4 trips to see your

allocated pet elephant on safari trips with radio sensors to listen

carefully to the inserted radio sensing transmitters on the elephant,

which are inserted after your registering and deposit payments.

 

You will need at least US$ 35000 to 80000 excluding your safari trips

expense which are separate.

 

The most impportant smart thing to do is documentate officially the

entire transaction, and where possible seek assistance of or

commission an IVY League University in statesside to document the

studies of a purported issue of existence of free concretions within

the tusks of elephant. Never tried to be under table, probably you

will lose your money with nothing in return.

 

If you wish to do so, perhaps as claimed in the Sri Lankan newspaper

can be verified as extra studies, as if you approached with

studies/univ backing, chances you are accepted to seek a pearl, but

if you appeared as Indiana Jones individual in search of a

myth/legends chances are you will be fool out of your money, on

official basis, as RSA is not that society as it was during afrikanna

apartitet, with rule of white law/justice with fairness in trade.

That trade justice society is over with equal black RS african

balance of power to adminstrate.

 

Anyway, if you are keen, I will send a scan copy of Aus.Gem'gist

issue, where a third party testing lab athenticate without knowledge

of the source/origin to satisfy my intelluctual curosity about 6

years ago. I will do so when I am home in NY or try to seek do it via

ny office staff

hope this info is use

BMW

E/O acceptable as from a tiny notebook with tiny keyboard

 

sacred-objects , summa iru anama

<typhon777 wrote:

>

>

> Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu (proposition) :

>

> Following article has been published in Sri Lankan " Sunday Times "

March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirm gajamuthu 'facts'

suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .

>

> By Asuntha Edirisooriya

>

> ....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits of gajamuthu

pearls from the initial stages of their formation to maturity in all

their glory and the temple doors are open to anyone interested in

studying or seeing the " real " pearls.Many dealers pass off pieces of

tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent of the temple,

Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as the pearl

harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand gets embedded

within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with the

collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks,

growing like a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an

elephant lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these

pearls to be formed " , the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread

across tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with

the surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and

beautiful texture losing its lustre. " The pearl starts off as a tiny

grain within the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on the

tusker, " Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gather

information about this precious stone in his research ventures that

took him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation on

display at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China and

Hong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.

>

> Is This Statment True ?

>

> ....those in elephant tusks come about with the collection of

bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, growing like

a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an elephant lives about

125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to be formed " ,

the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across tusk interior,

its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the surface

developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful texture

losing its lustre...

>

>

> Vjenceslav

>

>

>

>

> sacred-objects: bala_songyi: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41

+0000 All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-

Fluorite) .Not formed from harden venom !

>

>

>

>

> Dear SirsAs there many well-versed knowledgable intelluctuals and

keen observers here in this groupMy proposition/propose draft of

Letter to Editor--------------I am drafting a letter to Editor of

Australian Gemologist to debunk the age old myths of Cobra Venom

being harden into a luminious crystal.Meanwhile, proposing that

Cobras usually by nature acquire the luminious gemstone (commonly

called Cobrastone, throught the ages in gemology) from the dried out

river beds in summer, in Ceylon, India and Burma, as the cobras are

also insect eating reptile, and the luminious gem also attracts small

rodent in the night, by its luminosity.The references I got (other

than this group post of earlier articles), from Hemsdolt and the peer

physical review of the 4 cobra gems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS

(Amer. Acad.Advancement of Sciences)and reprint of the peer review

(1896) by NYT (New York Times)..The other offside notion of my theory

is the Chintamani stone of Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend

to Franklin Rosevelt) is that Green color (moldavite like) stone that

Roenrich took to Hague for the incorporation of League of Nations for

World Peace and back to Tibet, after the collapse of the League by

Hilter's unilateral actions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but

maybe of meteorite origin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As

known from analysis of meteors, its possible fluorite formation in

meteors, and inclusion of deayed Radioactive particles that are

luminious at night (for example Radium was)., which are technically

referred as chlorophane. However not all chlorophanes are luminious

eternally (forever)as its due to the chemical composition, especially

the radioactive decays matters most.The cobras seems to have a nack

to select the best forever luminious varieties as they have the

freedom to crawl on dried riverbeds at night and chance upon such

luminosity stones.All the Roenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a

glow, as in his museum in 101 S Street South Side NY city.There is

small side track as the Now only partly declassified US Army archive

of Hilter's Emissaries to Tibet, and the so-called anthropolgy

records they bring back to Germany and their fate after the lenghty

debrief of the trip are available, It seems F Rosevelt has an

interest as FreeMason in Tibet, via his closest friend Roenrich who

instigate FR to include the All Seeing Eye in the US$ one bills

(pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) and so do Hitler in latter

Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THERE IS RIDLEY, too on the

same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946) given his theoriesMy

mention of composition make up is not a hpyothesis but real hard

science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200 years old possessed in

the family, and wide range of chlorophane collections in the past 25

years, from various sources, while the most recent additions are from

Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeks and the folklores there

in Siberia as they call it in a name similar to cobrastone too, or

serpent stones but in russian names...with cossack variations in

names.There are similarity to China in the folklore (science and

civilization in China 3 volume) " The Night Shining Pearls " and Roman

and Greek civilizations use of the Chinese exports of night shining

pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1st millineum after christ

and latter 300 final years of Before Christ of the Greeks(via now

Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet Silk Route).As the draft is

already lenghty, I summarise another interesting fact,is the mongoose

is vehicle of Lord Kuber, and supposed to be his bank of priceless

gems,where are kept, as the cobras are delicacies of mongoose, so

cobrastones along with entire cobra are eaten,. Therefore the

cobrastones given a kind of antidotal relief from the venomous bites

of the cobra during the fight and then dinner of the smitten cobra by

mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH

WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATED JUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED

OBJECTSI have loaded the almost completed draft elsewhere, like Am

Philosphical Soc., but as we all know it takes time to receive

brickbats or bouquets as academics, this group is most vibrant as

there is vest interest to the knowledge gained.With Best

RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine

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dear friend!

 

the price of gajamuthu in sri lanka rages from 700$ to 2500$, depending on how desperate people are,since their govermant have a very poor economy......just need to know people...Personaly I have a friend in s.lanka, he is just another common man, and he has gajamuthu around his neck, and he has been shoot at 11 times, one bullet is still in his head.....It is a priceless commodity....He is still alive......If I would tell you the truth about it, you just wouldn't believe me...It's like a movie, and I guess that you are quite aware about it....

 

best wishes vjenceslav

 

 

 

sacred-objects From: bala_songyiDate: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:31:25 +0000 Re: gajamuthu

 

 

 

Gaja mukthaThere is a source in RSA, where you can make a bid and if your offer is accepted, you can witness the sawing of a ivory tusk of the elephant with known Gaja Muthu existence in its tusk, ie the rolling noise audible from the tusk..They will tranquilize the elephant, to saw of the tusk or both as you wish to bid, but the tusk is the properties of the game park, you can only have the whatever noise making substances within the ivory tusk.and its solely depends on good luck on your part, from tiny pieces of gram like substances to good pea size, and with very good fortune to sizes of water jambo fruit.Whatever you bid must be registered in six months advance with a deposit and you should make at least 3 to 4 trips to see your allocated pet elephant on safari trips with radio sensors to listen carefully to the inserted radio sensing transmitters on the elephant, which are inserted after your registering and deposit payments.You will need at least US$ 35000 to 80000 excluding your safari trips expense which are separate.The most impportant smart thing to do is documentate officially the entire transaction, and where possible seek assistance of or commission an IVY League University in statesside to document the studies of a purported issue of existence of free concretions within the tusks of elephant. Never tried to be under table, probably you will lose your money with nothing in return.If you wish to do so, perhaps as claimed in the Sri Lankan newspaper can be verified as extra studies, as if you approached with studies/univ backing, chances you are accepted to seek a pearl, but if you appeared as Indiana Jones individual in search of a myth/legends chances are you will be fool out of your money, on official basis, as RSA is not that society as it was during afrikanna apartitet, with rule of white law/justice with fairness in trade.That trade justice society is over with equal black RS african balance of power to adminstrate.Anyway, if you are keen, I will send a scan copy of Aus.Gem'gist issue, where a third party testing lab athenticate without knowledge of the source/origin to satisfy my intelluctual curosity about 6 years ago. I will do so when I am home in NY or try to seek do it viany office staffhope this info is useBMWE/O acceptable as from a tiny notebook with tiny keyboardsacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777 wrote:>> > Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu (proposition) :> > Following article has been published in Sri Lankan "Sunday Times" March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirm gajamuthu 'facts' suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .> > By Asuntha Edirisooriya> > ....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits of gajamuthu pearls from the initial stages of their formation to maturity in all their glory and the temple doors are open to anyone interested in studying or seeing the "real" pearls.Many dealers pass off pieces of tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent of the temple, Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as the pearl harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand gets embedded within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with the collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephant lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to be formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful texture losing its lustre. "The pearl starts off as a tiny grain within the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on the tusker," Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gather information about this precious stone in his research ventures that took him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation on display at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China and Hong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.> > Is This Statment True ?> > ....those in elephant tusks come about with the collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks, growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephant lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to be formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful texture losing its lustre...> > > Vjenceslav > > > > > sacred-objects: bala_songyi: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41 +0000 All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-Fluorite) .Not formed from harden venom !> > > > > Dear SirsAs there many well-versed knowledgable intelluctuals and keen observers here in this groupMy proposition/propose draft of Letter to Editor--------------I am drafting a letter to Editor of Australian Gemologist to debunk the age old myths of Cobra Venom being harden into a luminious crystal.Meanwhile, proposing that Cobras usually by nature acquire the luminious gemstone (commonly called Cobrastone, throught the ages in gemology) from the dried out river beds in summer, in Ceylon, India and Burma, as the cobras are also insect eating reptile, and the luminious gem also attracts small rodent in the night, by its luminosity.The references I got (other than this group post of earlier articles), from Hemsdolt and the peer physical review of the 4 cobra gems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS (Amer. Acad.Advancement of Sciences)and reprint of the peer review (1896) by NYT (New York Times)..The other offside notion of my theory is the Chintamani stone of Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend to Franklin Rosevelt) is that Green color (moldavite like) stone that Roenrich took to Hague for the incorporation of League of Nations for World Peace and back to Tibet, after the collapse of the League by Hilter's unilateral actions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but maybe of meteorite origin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As known from analysis of meteors, its possible fluorite formation in meteors, and inclusion of deayed Radioactive particles that are luminious at night (for example Radium was)., which are technically referred as chlorophane. However not all chlorophanes are luminious eternally (forever)as its due to the chemical composition, especially the radioactive decays matters most.The cobras seems to have a nack to select the best forever luminious varieties as they have the freedom to crawl on dried riverbeds at night and chance upon such luminosity stones.All the Roenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a glow, as in his museum in 101 S Street South Side NY city.There is small side track as the Now only partly declassified US Army archive of Hilter's Emissaries to Tibet, and the so-called anthropolgy records they bring back to Germany and their fate after the lenghty debrief of the trip are available, It seems F Rosevelt has an interest as FreeMason in Tibet, via his closest friend Roenrich who instigate FR to include the All Seeing Eye in the US$ one bills (pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) and so do Hitler in latter Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THERE IS RIDLEY, too on the same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946) given his theoriesMy mention of composition make up is not a hpyothesis but real hard science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200 years old possessed in the family, and wide range of chlorophane collections in the past 25 years, from various sources, while the most recent additions are from Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeks and the folklores there in Siberia as they call it in a name similar to cobrastone too, or serpent stones but in russian names...with cossack variations in names.There are similarity to China in the folklore (science and civilization in China 3 volume) "The Night Shining Pearls" and Roman and Greek civilizations use of the Chinese exports of night shining pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1st millineum after christ and latter 300 final years of Before Christ of the Greeks(via now Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet Silk Route).As the draft is already lenghty, I summarise another interesting fact,is the mongoose is vehicle of Lord Kuber, and supposed to be his bank of priceless gems,where are kept, as the cobras are delicacies of mongoose, so cobrastones along with entire cobra are eaten,. Therefore the cobrastones given a kind of antidotal relief from the venomous bites of the cobra during the fight and then dinner of the smitten cobra by mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATED JUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED OBJECTSI have loaded the almost completed draft elsewhere, like Am Philosphical Soc., but as we all know it takes time to receive brickbats or bouquets as academics, this group is most vibrant as there is vest interest to the knowledge gained.With Best RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine > > > > > > > ________> Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmailtagline> Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  Get it now!

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Thank you. Very interesting. QUESTION: Is Gaja Moti a ball of ivory, a

natural formation? Or is it just a ball cut from ivory? How to

identify this sacred object?

 

As for getting shot at 11 times and hit in the head, that doesn't

sound very lucky to me. I never heard of anyone shot at 11 times.

Maybe if he removes the Moti people will stop shooting at him!?

 

Best wishes,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777

wrote:

>

>

> dear friend!

>

> the price of gajamuthu in sri lanka rages from 700$ to 2500$,

depending on how desperate people are,since their govermant have a

very poor economy......just need to know people...Personaly I have a

friend in s.lanka, he is just another common man, and he has gajamuthu

around his neck, and he has been shoot at 11 times, one bullet is

still in his head.....It is a priceless commodity....He is still

alive......If I would tell you the truth about it, you just wouldn't

believe me...It's like a movie, and I guess that you are quite aware

about it....

>

> best wishes vjenceslav

>

>

>

> sacred-objects: bala_songyi: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:31:25

+0000 Re: gajamuthu

>

>

>

>

> Gaja mukthaThere is a source in RSA, where you can make a bid and if

your offer is accepted, you can witness the sawing of a ivory tusk of

the elephant with known Gaja Muthu existence in its tusk, ie the

rolling noise audible from the tusk..They will tranquilize the

elephant, to saw of the tusk or both as you wish to bid, but the tusk

is the properties of the game park, you can only have the whatever

noise making substances within the ivory tusk.and its solely depends

on good luck on your part, from tiny pieces of gram like substances to

good pea size, and with very good fortune to sizes of water jambo

fruit.Whatever you bid must be registered in six months advance with a

deposit and you should make at least 3 to 4 trips to see your

allocated pet elephant on safari trips with radio sensors to listen

carefully to the inserted radio sensing transmitters on the elephant,

which are inserted after your registering and deposit payments.You

will need at least US$ 35000 to 80000 excluding your safari trips

expense which are separate.The most impportant smart thing to do is

documentate officially the entire transaction, and where possible seek

assistance of or commission an IVY League University in statesside to

document the studies of a purported issue of existence of free

concretions within the tusks of elephant. Never tried to be under

table, probably you will lose your money with nothing in return.If you

wish to do so, perhaps as claimed in the Sri Lankan newspaper can be

verified as extra studies, as if you approached with studies/univ

backing, chances you are accepted to seek a pearl, but if you appeared

as Indiana Jones individual in search of a myth/legends chances are

you will be fool out of your money, on official basis, as RSA is not

that society as it was during afrikanna apartitet, with rule of white

law/justice with fairness in trade.That trade justice society is over

with equal black RS african balance of power to adminstrate.Anyway, if

you are keen, I will send a scan copy of Aus.Gem'gist issue, where a

third party testing lab athenticate without knowledge of the

source/origin to satisfy my intelluctual curosity about 6 years ago. I

will do so when I am home in NY or try to seek do it viany office

staffhope this info is useBMWE/O acceptable as from a tiny notebook

with tiny keyboardsacred-objects , summa iru

anama <typhon777@> wrote:>> > Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu

(proposition) :> > Following article has been published in Sri Lankan

" Sunday Times " March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirm

gajamuthu 'facts' suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .> > By Asuntha

Edirisooriya> > ....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits of

gajamuthu pearls from the initial stages of their formation to

maturity in all their glory and the temple doors are open to anyone

interested in studying or seeing the " real " pearls.Many dealers pass

off pieces of tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent of

the temple, Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as the

pearl harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand gets

embedded within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with the

collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks,

growing like a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an elephant

lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to

be formed " , the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across

tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the

surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful

texture losing its lustre. " The pearl starts off as a tiny grain

within the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on the

tusker, " Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gather

information about this precious stone in his research ventures that

took him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation on

display at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China and

Hong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.> > Is This

Statment True ?> > ....those in elephant tusks come about with the

collection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks,

growing like a cancer into the tusks. " Research shows that an elephant

lives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls to

be formed " , the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread across

tusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with the

surface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautiful

texture losing its lustre...> > > Vjenceslav > > > > > To:

sacred-objects@: bala_songyi@: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41 +0000Subject:

All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-Fluorite) .Not

formed from harden venom !> > > > > Dear SirsAs there many well-versed

knowledgable intelluctuals and keen observers here in this groupMy

proposition/propose draft of Letter to Editor--------------I am

drafting a letter to Editor of Australian Gemologist to debunk the age

old myths of Cobra Venom being harden into a luminious

crystal.Meanwhile, proposing that Cobras usually by nature acquire the

luminious gemstone (commonly called Cobrastone, throught the ages in

gemology) from the dried out river beds in summer, in Ceylon, India

and Burma, as the cobras are also insect eating reptile, and the

luminious gem also attracts small rodent in the night, by its

luminosity.The references I got (other than this group post of earlier

articles), from Hemsdolt and the peer physical review of the 4 cobra

gems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS (Amer. Acad.Advancement of

Sciences)and reprint of the peer review (1896) by NYT (New York

Times)..The other offside notion of my theory is the Chintamani stone

of Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend to Franklin Rosevelt) is

that Green color (moldavite like) stone that Roenrich took to Hague

for the incorporation of League of Nations for World Peace and back to

Tibet, after the collapse of the League by Hilter's unilateral

actions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but maybe of meteorite

origin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As known from analysis

of meteors, its possible fluorite formation in meteors, and inclusion

of deayed Radioactive particles that are luminious at night (for

example Radium was)., which are technically referred as chlorophane.

However not all chlorophanes are luminious eternally (forever)as its

due to the chemical composition, especially the radioactive decays

matters most.The cobras seems to have a nack to select the best

forever luminious varieties as they have the freedom to crawl on dried

riverbeds at night and chance upon such luminosity stones.All the

Roenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a glow, as in his museum in

101 S Street South Side NY city.There is small side track as the Now

only partly declassified US Army archive of Hilter's Emissaries to

Tibet, and the so-called anthropolgy records they bring back to

Germany and their fate after the lenghty debrief of the trip are

available, It seems F Rosevelt has an interest as FreeMason in Tibet,

via his closest friend Roenrich who instigate FR to include the All

Seeing Eye in the US$ one bills (pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) and

so do Hitler in latter Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THERE

IS RIDLEY, too on the same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946)

given his theoriesMy mention of composition make up is not a

hpyothesis but real hard science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200

years old possessed in the family, and wide range of chlorophane

collections in the past 25 years, from various sources, while the most

recent additions are from Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeks

and the folklores there in Siberia as they call it in a name similar

to cobrastone too, or serpent stones but in russian names...with

cossack variations in names.There are similarity to China in the

folklore (science and civilization in China 3 volume) " The Night

Shining Pearls " and Roman and Greek civilizations use of the Chinese

exports of night shining pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1st

millineum after christ and latter 300 final years of Before Christ of

the Greeks(via now Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet Silk

Route).As the draft is already lenghty, I summarise another

interesting fact,is the mongoose is vehicle of Lord Kuber, and

supposed to be his bank of priceless gems,where are kept, as the

cobras are delicacies of mongoose, so cobrastones along with entire

cobra are eaten,. Therefore the cobrastones given a kind of antidotal

relief from the venomous bites of the cobra during the fight and then

dinner of the smitten cobra by mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD

DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATED

JUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED OBJECTSI have loaded the almost

completed draft elsewhere, like Am Philosphical Soc., but as we all

know it takes time to receive brickbats or bouquets as academics, this

group is most vibrant as there is vest interest to the knowledge

gained.With Best RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine > > > > > > >

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dear richard!

as the story goes, the person in question was shoot at 11 times, only 2 bullets ended up in the head...the point is that he survived assasination....well it doesn't sound lucky to me either, but since all sinhalleese people have natal charts instead of ID's, I can only suppose that gajamuthu was only a protection, or the means of escaping a very bad carma .I personaly know this guy. sinhaleese people are quite aware, no matter how educated they are..their voodooo (as I refer to it) works.....well we all know that... I just had to infiltrate somehow, and listen to 'jungle' stories...and the life goes on......

 

best wishes vjenceslav

 

P.S. I just downloaded a few 'misunderstood' songs, and I have to say that you were a pretty good group, considering that in my teens (I was born in 72') I was quite fanatic about 60' garage rock music, and the bands I liked were "the seeds" and "the sonics",.. as far as my taste in music is considered, 'misunderstood' belongs to the same category....If John Peel have said that you were among 10 best live performances he had seen in his lifetime, that's it, I have nothing more to say.

 

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sacred-objects From: rsbj66Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:59:25 +0000 Re: gajamuthu

 

 

 

Thank you. Very interesting. QUESTION: Is Gaja Moti a ball of ivory, anatural formation? Or is it just a ball cut from ivory? How toidentify this sacred object?As for getting shot at 11 times and hit in the head, that doesn'tsound very lucky to me. I never heard of anyone shot at 11 times.Maybe if he removes the Moti people will stop shooting at him!?Best wishes,Richardsacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777wrote:>> > dear friend!> > the price of gajamuthu in sri lanka rages from 700$ to 2500$,depending on how desperate people are,since their govermant have avery poor economy......just need to know people...Personaly I have afriend in s.lanka, he is just another common man, and he has gajamuthuaround his neck, and he has been shoot at 11 times, one bullet isstill in his head.....It is a priceless commodity....He is stillalive......If I would tell you the truth about it, you just wouldn'tbelieve me...It's like a movie, and I guess that you are quite awareabout it....> > best wishes vjenceslav> > > > sacred-objects: bala_songyi: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:31:25+0000 Re: gajamuthu> > > > > Gaja mukthaThere is a source in RSA, where you can make a bid and ifyour offer is accepted, you can witness the sawing of a ivory tusk ofthe elephant with known Gaja Muthu existence in its tusk, ie therolling noise audible from the tusk..They will tranquilize theelephant, to saw of the tusk or both as you wish to bid, but the tuskis the properties of the game park, you can only have the whatevernoise making substances within the ivory tusk.and its solely dependson good luck on your part, from tiny pieces of gram like substances togood pea size, and with very good fortune to sizes of water jambofruit.Whatever you bid must be registered in six months advance with adeposit and you should make at least 3 to 4 trips to see yourallocated pet elephant on safari trips with radio sensors to listencarefully to the inserted radio sensing transmitters on the elephant,which are inserted after your registering and deposit payments.Youwill need at least US$ 35000 to 80000 excluding your safari tripsexpense which are separate.The most impportant smart thing to do isdocumentate officially the entire transaction, and where possible seekassistance of or commission an IVY League University in statesside todocument the studies of a purported issue of existence of freeconcretions within the tusks of elephant. Never tried to be undertable, probably you will lose your money with nothing in return.If youwish to do so, perhaps as claimed in the Sri Lankan newspaper can beverified as extra studies, as if you approached with studies/univbacking, chances you are accepted to seek a pearl, but if you appearedas Indiana Jones individual in search of a myth/legends chances areyou will be fool out of your money, on official basis, as RSA is notthat society as it was during afrikanna apartitet, with rule of whitelaw/justice with fairness in trade.That trade justice society is overwith equal black RS african balance of power to adminstrate.Anyway, ifyou are keen, I will send a scan copy of Aus.Gem'gist issue, where athird party testing lab athenticate without knowledge of thesource/origin to satisfy my intelluctual curosity about 6 years ago. Iwill do so when I am home in NY or try to seek do it viany officestaffhope this info is useBMWE/O acceptable as from a tiny notebookwith tiny keyboardsacred-objects , summa iruanama <typhon777@> wrote:>> > Sacred pearls issue with Gajamuthu(proposition) :> > Following article has been published in Sri Lankan"Sunday Times" March 30;2008, and I wonder if somebody can confirmgajamuthu 'facts' suggested by Ven. Gnanissara Thera .> > By AsunthaEdirisooriya> > ....The Hunupitiya Gangarama Temple has exhibits ofgajamuthu pearls from the initial stages of their formation tomaturity in all their glory and the temple doors are open to anyoneinterested in studying or seeing the "real" pearls.Many dealers passoff pieces of tusks as these pearls, cautioned the Chief Incumbent ofthe temple, Ven. Galaboda Gnanissara Thera, explaining that as thepearl harvested from an oyster is formed when a grain of sand getsembedded within its shell, those in elephant tusks come about with thecollection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks,growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephantlives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls tobe formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread acrosstusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with thesurface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautifultexture losing its lustre. "The pearl starts off as a tiny grainwithin the tusk but grows to different sizes, depending on thetusker," Ven. Gnanissara Thera who had the opportunity to gatherinformation about this precious stone in his research ventures thattook him around the world. The various of the gajamuthu formation ondisplay at Gangaramaya have been collected from the USA, China andHong Kong. Most of the specimens are from Hong Kong.> > Is ThisStatment True ?> > ....those in elephant tusks come about with thecollection of bacteria through an infection at the base of the tusks,growing like a cancer into the tusks. "Research shows that an elephantlives about 125 years and it takes 75 to 80 years for these pearls tobe formed", the Thera said. As the pearls 'grow' and spread acrosstusk interior, its exterior shows slight changes as well, with thesurface developing small holes and the usually smooth and beautifultexture losing its lustre...> > > Vjenceslav > > > > > To:sacred-objects@: bala_songyi@: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:41 +0000All Naga Mani(s) are Chlorophane (ex-Fluorite) .Notformed from harden venom !> > > > > Dear SirsAs there many well-versedknowledgable intelluctuals and keen observers here in this groupMyproposition/propose draft of Letter to Editor--------------I amdrafting a letter to Editor of Australian Gemologist to debunk the ageold myths of Cobra Venom being harden into a luminiouscrystal.Meanwhile, proposing that Cobras usually by nature acquire theluminious gemstone (commonly called Cobrastone, throught the ages ingemology) from the dried out river beds in summer, in Ceylon, Indiaand Burma, as the cobras are also insect eating reptile, and theluminious gem also attracts small rodent in the night, by itsluminosity.The references I got (other than this group post of earlierarticles), from Hemsdolt and the peer physical review of the 4 cobragems (from then Ceylon)in 1896 at AAAS (Amer. Acad.Advancement ofSciences)and reprint of the peer review (1896) by NYT (New YorkTimes)..The other offside notion of my theory is the Chintamani stoneof Nicholas Roenrich,(personal advisor/friend to Franklin Rosevelt) isthat Green color (moldavite like) stone that Roenrich took to Haguefor the incorporation of League of Nations for World Peace and back toTibet, after the collapse of the League by Hilter's unilateralactions.This Chintamani is same cobrastone but maybe of meteoriteorigin as claimed from Sirius group of stars. As known from analysisof meteors, its possible fluorite formation in meteors, and inclusionof deayed Radioactive particles that are luminious at night (forexample Radium was)., which are technically referred as chlorophane.However not all chlorophanes are luminious eternally (forever)as itsdue to the chemical composition, especially the radioactive decaysmatters most.The cobras seems to have a nack to select the bestforever luminious varieties as they have the freedom to crawl on driedriverbeds at night and chance upon such luminosity stones.All theRoenrich's paintings of Chintastome has a glow, as in his museum in101 S Street South Side NY city.There is small side track as the Nowonly partly declassified US Army archive of Hilter's Emissaries toTibet, and the so-called anthropolgy records they bring back toGermany and their fate after the lenghty debrief of the trip areavailable, It seems F Rosevelt has an interest as FreeMason in Tibet,via his closest friend Roenrich who instigate FR to include the AllSeeing Eye in the US$ one bills (pyramid with the All Seeing Eye) andso do Hitler in latter Depression years to till 1940s.OF COURSE, THEREIS RIDLEY, too on the same Chintamani Stone from occupied Japan (1946)given his theoriesMy mention of composition make up is not ahpyothesis but real hard science facts of 3 cobra manis of about 200years old possessed in the family, and wide range of chlorophanecollections in the past 25 years, from various sources, while the mostrecent additions are from Ural mountains (Siberia) in the last 2 weeksand the folklores there in Siberia as they call it in a name similarto cobrastone too, or serpent stones but in russian names...withcossack variations in names.There are similarity to China in thefolklore (science and civilization in China 3 volume) "The NightShining Pearls" and Roman and Greek civilizations use of the Chineseexports of night shining pearls as antidotes of poisons, in early 1stmillineum after christ and latter 300 final years of Before Christ ofthe Greeks(via now Afghanistan, and Chinese Kashmir/Tibet SilkRoute).As the draft is already lenghty, I summarise anotherinteresting fact,is the mongoose is vehicle of Lord Kuber, andsupposed to be his bank of priceless gems,where are kept, as thecobras are delicacies of mongoose, so cobrastones along with entirecobra are eaten,. Therefore the cobrastones given a kind of antidotalrelief from the venomous bites of the cobra during the fight and thendinner of the smitten cobra by mongooseI HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOODDISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH WILL BE MORE HEALTHY FOR OUR EDUCATEDJUDGEMENTS OF ONE OF THE SACRED OBJECTSI have loaded the almostcompleted draft elsewhere, like Am Philosphical Soc., but as we allknow it takes time to receive brickbats or bouquets as academics, thisgroup is most vibrant as there is vest interest to the knowledgegained.With Best RegardsBMWKiev Ukraine > > > > > > >________> Connect tothe next generation of MSN Messenger >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmailtagline>> > > > > > > ________> Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmailtagline> Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more!

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Hi,

I'm from Sri Lanka, and I don't know what this guy is talking about...about being shot at, etc. Basically, selling gaja muthu is illegal in Sri Lanka and that's just about it! I feel he's trying to make a quick buck out of sob fictional stories. The value of such a pearl is priceless and this is the very reason why you can't sell such an item. It is considered sacred and recently it was announced some laws will change with regard to priceless items in personal possession.

I have a gaja muthu myself which has been handed over from generation to generation in my family and I bet it cost a fortune. Don't fall for the 'common, poor man' crap some people come up with just to hide the reality.