Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Namaskar With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna: Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha beads are only effective when they are " activated " by certain (?) Poojas? Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one ´'activate' them further than what they already are? Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite everyone to share their input on this. Satyadharma sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > > Har Har Mahadev, > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make for them. > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have very shallow knowledge. > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. Y/s, R- > > dear friend > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of buying > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Members, > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead is > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing and > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken one > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in 20 > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got hospitalised. > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this bead > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis Rudrakshas. > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads. > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear friend > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh rudraksha > for > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man. > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of the > > round ek mukh. > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > lines > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom. > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea. > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your choice > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and one > > locule. > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced when > it > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at the > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > when > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one you > see > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according to > > you). > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the above > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple round > ek > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of the > > above miracles. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this topic. > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer here > > in > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. So > > the > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced rudraksha > is > > > genuine. > > > > > > Let me know > > > Vienna Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > substantiation. > > > i > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > groups. > > > > > > > > fact # 1 > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > rudraksha > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention existence > > of > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round. > > > > > > > > fact # 2 > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > naturally > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > provision > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is simple > > > human > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > scriptures > > > are > > > > mentioning. > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > ratified > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the archives) > > > that > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > round > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > trees, > > > that > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > others. > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead and > > have > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple of > > > old > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > even > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > appreciated > > > my > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made to > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS THE > > REAL > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut from > me > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in telling > > the > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and customers > buy > > > it, > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > is. > > > BUT > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > ONLY > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic cashewnut > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is fake > > and > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine. > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, genuine > > or > > > > substitute. > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers of > any > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. mind > > you, > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > just > > > > because it is easily available and cheap. > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand and > > it > > > is > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy a > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find fault > > with > > > > customers. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > have > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows? > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha enthusiasts > > > know > > > > that > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > rudraksha > > > > but it > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > know how. > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Har Har Mahadev, Prabhu, there is no doubt that Rudraksha are powerful naturally. But we have noticed as far as our experience goes( there is no verdict like this in any Shastra), that the Rudrakshas once blessed in a particular way gives the results very fast. It is just that with some Mantras the existing energy of the Rudraksha is channelised and there are several ways by which this can be done by the devotee for example by chanting of the beej mantra of the Rudraksha or by some other recommended mantra. It is just that by channelising energy of the Rudraksha bead the flow of energy becomes more smooth. A mantra has to be recited correctly for its effectiveness. I hope this will help, Thanks and Regards, Aum Namah Shivaye, Rajiv Krishna Dasarudraksha67 <satyadharma wrote: Namaskar With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna:Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha beads are only effective when they are "activated" by certain (?)Poojas? Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one ´'activate' them further than what they already are?Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite everyone to share their input on this. Satyadharma sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote:>> Har Har Mahadev,> Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make for them. > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have very shallow knowledge.> > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well.> > Aum Namah Shivaye, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:> AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. Y/s, R-> > dear friend> > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of buying > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members, > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead is > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing and > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha.> > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken one > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in 20 > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got hospitalised. > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this bead > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis Rudrakshas. > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads.> > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa> > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM> > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > dear friend> > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh rudraksha > for > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man.> > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of the > > round ek mukh.> > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > lines > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom.> > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea.> > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your choice > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and one > > locule.> > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced when > it > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at the > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas.> > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > when > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one you > see > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according to > > you).> > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the above > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple round > ek > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of the > > above miracles.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun> > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this topic.> > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer here > > in > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. So > > the > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced rudraksha > is > > > genuine.> > > > > > Let me know> > > Vienna Jones> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear friends> > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > substantiation. > > > i > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > groups.> > > > > > > > fact # 1> > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > rudraksha > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention existence > > of > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round.> > > > > > > > fact # 2> > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > naturally > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > provision > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is simple > > > human > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > scriptures > > > are > > > > mentioning.> > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > ratified > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the archives) > > > that > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > round > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > trees, > > > that > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > others.> > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead and > > have > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple of > > > old > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > even > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > appreciated > > > my > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made to > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS THE > > REAL > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut from > me > > > > earlier.> > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in telling > > the > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and customers > buy > > > it, > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > is. > > > BUT > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > ONLY > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic cashewnut > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is fake > > and > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine.> > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, genuine > > or > > > > substitute.> > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers of > any > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. mind > > you, > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > just > > > > because it is easily available and cheap.> > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand and > > it > > > is > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy a > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find fault > > with > > > > customers.> > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw Brown" > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > have > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows?> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hi all> > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha enthusiasts > > > know > > > > that > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > rudraksha > > > > but it > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > know how.> >> > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here> 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Namaste This is a very interesting question, which have been debated before to some extent on various forums. While I look forward to the various input on this, I can say I have beads which are not offered in any ceremony, except saying the appropriate bija mantra or Om Namah Shivaya before touching or wearing, I have beads from Rudra Centre which have been offered by their temple priest on my behalf (although I dont recall have ever had any confirmation from RC my beads were offered in my personal name) and I have beads which was offered in personal ceremony by priest in my name at Shri Pashupatinath Mandira in Nepal. All beads have different energy, especially the beads from Shri Pashupatinath have a very stronger and different energy, these were offered from the South main gate which is to Aghora form of Lord Mahadeva. Some also claim that offering from the South is considered to be offered to complete Panchamukha form, I have not been able to verify this from other sources, being a westerner I am not allowed to have Darshan of Lord Pashupatinath. Also I have sent raw beads to RC which were not offered and they offered them for me in Mumbai. When the beads came back they had a different aura and energy, so definitely there is an effect from the mantric invocation. Whether or not the beads become more effective is still an open question with many possible variables. Of course for protection against evil energy I have experienced that my Pashupatinath beads were more effective. This is my limited personal experience so far. I would also appreciate a discussion if one can draw any definite conclusions from Shastric injunctions about offering beads, which are svyamrupa like salagram sila. Thanks, Ole Alstruprudraksha67 <satyadharma wrote: Namaskar With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna:Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha beads are only effective when they are "activated" by certain (?)Poojas? Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one ´'activate' them further than what they already are?Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite everyone to share their input on this. Satyadharma sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote:>> Har Har Mahadev,> Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make for them. > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have very shallow knowledge.> > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well.> > Aum Namah Shivaye, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:> AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. Y/s, R-> > dear friend> > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of buying > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members, > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead is > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing and > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha.> > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken one > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in 20 > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got hospitalised. > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this bead > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis Rudrakshas. > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads.> > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa> > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM> > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > dear friend> > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh rudraksha > for > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man.> > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of the > > round ek mukh.> > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > lines > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom.> > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea.> > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your choice > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and one > > locule.> > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced when > it > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at the > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas.> > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > when > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one you > see > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according to > > you).> > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the above > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple round > ek > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of the > > above miracles.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun> > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this topic.> > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer here > > in > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. So > > the > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced rudraksha > is > > > genuine.> > > > > > Let me know> > > Vienna Jones> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear friends> > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > substantiation. > > > i > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > groups.> > > > > > > > fact # 1> > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > rudraksha > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention existence > > of > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round.> > > > > > > > fact # 2> > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > naturally > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > provision > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is simple > > > human > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > scriptures > > > are > > > > mentioning.> > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > ratified > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the archives) > > > that > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > round > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > trees, > > > that > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > others.> > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead and > > have > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple of > > > old > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > even > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > appreciated > > > my > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made to > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS THE > > REAL > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut from > me > > > > earlier.> > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in telling > > the > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and customers > buy > > > it, > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > is. > > > BUT > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > ONLY > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic cashewnut > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is fake > > and > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine.> > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, genuine > > or > > > > substitute.> > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers of > any > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. mind > > you, > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > just > > > > because it is easily available and cheap.> > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand and > > it > > > is > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy a > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find fault > > with > > > > customers.> > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw Brown" > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > have > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows?> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hi all> > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha enthusiasts > > > know > > > > that > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > rudraksha > > > > but it > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > know how.> >> > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here> Sent from Mail. A Smarter Inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear All, Shalagram Shila is svayam rupa... it is not required to " empower " ; BUT we must worship every day. This is not to empower the Shalagram, rather it is visa versa. Similar with Rudraksha. When we accept or receive Rudraksha we must first offer respect and fitting greeting for honored seed. It is already empowered. But we need to show respect. Even in the material world if we don't show proper respect to a great man who comes to us then what blessing can be expected? We do not empower the great man by our respect. It is same with Rudraksha. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " rudraksha67 " <satyadharma wrote: > > Namaskar > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna: > > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > beads are only effective when they are " activated " by certain (?) > Poojas? > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > ´'activate' them further than what they already are? > > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > everyone to share their input on this. > > > Satyadharma > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > for them. > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > very shallow knowledge. > > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > Y/s, R- > > > > dear friend > > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > buying > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > is > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > and > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > one > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > 20 > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > hospitalised. > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > bead > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > Rudrakshas. > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads. > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > dear friend > > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > rudraksha > > for > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man. > > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > the > > > round ek mukh. > > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > lines > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom. > > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea. > > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > choice > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > one > > > locule. > > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > when > > it > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > the > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > when > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > you > > see > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > to > > > you). > > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > above > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > round > > ek > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > the > > > above miracles. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun > > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > topic. > > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > here > > > in > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > So > > > the > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > rudraksha > > is > > > > genuine. > > > > > > > > Let me know > > > > Vienna Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > substantiation. > > > > i > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > groups. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 1 > > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > rudraksha > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > existence > > > of > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 2 > > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > naturally > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > provision > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > simple > > > > human > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > scriptures > > > > are > > > > > mentioning. > > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > ratified > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > archives) > > > > that > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > round > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > trees, > > > > that > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > and > > > have > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > of > > > > old > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > even > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > appreciated > > > > my > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > to > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > THE > > > REAL > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > from > > me > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > telling > > > the > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > customers > > buy > > > > it, > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > is. > > > > BUT > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > ONLY > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > cashewnut > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > fake > > > and > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine. > > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > genuine > > > or > > > > > substitute. > > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > of > > any > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > mind > > > you, > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > just > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap. > > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > a > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > fault > > > with > > > > > customers. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > have > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows? > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > enthusiasts > > > > know > > > > > that > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > rudraksha > > > > > but it > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > know how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > here > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I doubt this theory :)What is a Mantra? What is a Rudraksha? Do we use a mantra to energize Shiva or seek his grace? Is Rudraksha Shiva or his grace or both?When Faith is a mantra, mantra itself becomes secondary. Shaligram Shala <shaligram8sacred-objects Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:19:03 AMRe: Blessing Rudraksha??? Har Har Mahadev, Prabhu, there is no doubt that Rudraksha are powerful naturally. But we have noticed as far as our experience goes( there is no verdict like this in any Shastra), that the Rudrakshas once blessed in a particular way gives the results very fast. It is just that with some Mantras the existing energy of the Rudraksha is channelised and there are several ways by which this can be done by the devotee for example by chanting of the beej mantra of the Rudraksha or by some other recommended mantra. It is just that by channelising energy of the Rudraksha bead the flow of energy becomes more smooth. A mantra has to be recited correctly for its effectiveness. I hope this will help, Thanks and Regards, Aum Namah Shivaye, Rajiv Krishna Dasarudraksha67 <satyadharma@ gmail.com> wrote: Namaskar With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna:Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha beads are only effective when they are "activated" by certain (?)Poojas? Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one ´'activate' them further than what they already are?Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite everyone to share their input on this. Satyadharma sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:>> Har Har Mahadev,> Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make for them. > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have very shallow knowledge.> > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well.> > Aum Namah Shivaye, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. Y/s, R-> > dear friend> > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of buying > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy .com> > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members, > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead is > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing and > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha.> > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken one > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in 20 > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got hospitalised. > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this bead > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis Rudrakshas. > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads.> > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa> > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:> > dear friend> > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh rudraksha > for > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man.> > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of the > > round ek mukh.> > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > lines > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom.> > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea.> > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven to > you > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your choice > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and one > > locule.> > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced when > it > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at the > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas.> > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > when > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one you > see > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according to > > you).> > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the above > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple round > ek > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of the > > above miracles.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > sacred-objects, "Vienna Jones" > > <butterfly_lovers_ 85@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun> > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this topic.> > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer here > > in > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. So > > the > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced rudraksha > is > > > genuine.> > > > > > Let me know> > > Vienna Jones> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > dear friends> > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > substantiation. > > > i > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > groups.> > > > > > > > fact # 1> > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > rudraksha > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention existence > > of > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round.> > > > > > > > fact # 2> > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > naturally > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > provision > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is simple > > > human > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > scriptures > > > are > > > > mentioning.> > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > ratified > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the archives) > > > that > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > round > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > trees, > > > that > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > others.> > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead and > > have > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple of > > > old > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > even > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > appreciated > > > my > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made to > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS THE > > REAL > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut from > me > > > > earlier.> > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in telling > > the > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and customers > buy > > > it, > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > is. > > > BUT > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > ONLY > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic cashewnut > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is fake > > and > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine.> > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, genuine > > or > > > > substitute.> > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers of > any > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. mind > > you, > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > just > > > > because it is easily available and cheap.> > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand and > > it > > > is > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy a > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find fault > > with > > > > customers.> > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com> > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > have > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows?> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Vienna Jones" > > > > <butterfly_lovers_ 85@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hi all> > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha enthusiasts > > > know > > > > that > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > rudraksha > > > > but it > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > know how.> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here> 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 The term for Rudrashak and Shaligram is SYHUMBHU (SELF MANIFESTED) BUT BELOW A SUPPLIER IS CLAIMING RUDRASHAK TO BE PRADESTIYHA (Man EMPOWERING/Man ENERGISINGG) SO IT WORKS IN 10 DAYS . I assumed that this supplier got badly mixed up with Yantras and Pancha Logha Idols and Rudrashak. Elsewhere in other groups I would not be suprised of his claims (if any) of Pradestiyha of Shaligrams. WHAT FOOLS MORTAL BE !!! Shakespeare bmw sacred-objects , " rudraksha67 " <satyadharma wrote: > > Namaskar > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna: > > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > beads are only effective when they are " activated " by certain (?) > Poojas? > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > ´'activate' them further than what they already are? > > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > everyone to share their input on this. > > > Satyadharma > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > for them. > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > very shallow knowledge. > > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > Y/s, R- > > > > dear friend > > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > buying > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > is > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > and > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > one > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > 20 > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > hospitalised. > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > bead > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > Rudrakshas. > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads. > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > dear friend > > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > rudraksha > > for > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man. > > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > the > > > round ek mukh. > > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > lines > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom. > > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea. > > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > choice > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > one > > > locule. > > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > when > > it > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > the > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > when > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > you > > see > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > to > > > you). > > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > above > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > round > > ek > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > the > > > above miracles. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun > > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > topic. > > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > here > > > in > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > So > > > the > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > rudraksha > > is > > > > genuine. > > > > > > > > Let me know > > > > Vienna Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > substantiation. > > > > i > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > groups. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 1 > > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > rudraksha > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > existence > > > of > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 2 > > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > naturally > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > provision > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > simple > > > > human > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > scriptures > > > > are > > > > > mentioning. > > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > ratified > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > archives) > > > > that > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > round > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > trees, > > > > that > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > and > > > have > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > of > > > > old > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > even > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > appreciated > > > > my > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > to > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > THE > > > REAL > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > from > > me > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > telling > > > the > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > customers > > buy > > > > it, > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > is. > > > > BUT > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > ONLY > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > cashewnut > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > fake > > > and > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine. > > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > genuine > > > or > > > > > substitute. > > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > of > > any > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > mind > > > you, > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > just > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap. > > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > a > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > fault > > > with > > > > > customers. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > have > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows? > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > enthusiasts > > > > know > > > > > that > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > rudraksha > > > > > but it > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > know how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > here > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Panditji, It is the word " energizing " which people find offensive (as if Rudraksha has no energy). I think respect or puja is NOT energizing anything but ourselves. Perhaps, " acceptance " is a better word than energize. Y/s, R- dear richardji your endorsing the views of dasaji of energisation as a requirement and the benefits of energisation and giving logical allegories are appreciated. i too appreciate dasaji or any rudraksha supplier in the world if he is doing energisation of the rudrakhsa as per scriptures before giving to the customer. be it you, dasaji or any other members, many have and are supporting this energisation of the rudraksha in one way or other and are even attributing the words aura, energy, power etc. in relation to the energisation of the rudraksha. it is nice to note such positive acceptance, appreciation and tolerance of energisation of rudraksha by other members with mutual symbiotic compliments, albeit the ways and means of energisation by each are different. let us not discuss micro level process of energisation based on scriptures as again some members may show intolerance. earlier i MERELY QUOTED A VERSE FROM SHIVAPURANA where it says that energisation is mandatory before wearing a rudraksha as lord shiva is warning the wearers of non-energised rudraksha to fall into hell for a kalpam. then you all misconstrued as if i am scaring members to go to hell if they dont do energisation, nay, i was called a terrorist because of your misunderstanding that i was giving this warning whereas in reality it was lord shiva who said so. but as a matured person, i took all your criticism positively since it is lord shiva in shivapurana who said so and not me. it is pertinent to note that you all are appreciating energisation and the benefits of energisation NOW. it is also heartening to note that members are coming to a cohesive conclusive observation of energisation giving extra power or energy and a sort of respect etc. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Shalagram Shila is svayam rupa... it is not required to " empower " ; BUT > we must worship every day. This is not to empower the Shalagram, > rather it is visa versa. Similar with Rudraksha. When we accept or > receive Rudraksha we must first offer respect and fitting greeting for > honored seed. It is already empowered. But we need to show respect. > > Even in the material world if we don't show proper respect to a great > man who comes to us then what blessing can be expected? We do not > empower the great man by our respect. It is same with Rudraksha. > > Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects , " rudraksha67 " <satyadharma@> > wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna: > > > > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > > beads are only effective when they are " activated " by certain (?) > > Poojas? > > > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > > ´'activate' them further than what they already are? > > > > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > > everyone to share their input on this. > > > > > > Satyadharma > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > > for them. > > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > > very shallow knowledge. > > > > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > > Y/s, R- > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > > buying > > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > > is > > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > > and > > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > > one > > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > > 20 > > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > > hospitalised. > > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > > bead > > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > > Rudrakshas. > > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads. > > > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > > rudraksha > > > for > > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man. > > > > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > > the > > > > round ek mukh. > > > > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > > lines > > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom. > > > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea. > > > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > > choice > > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > > one > > > > locule. > > > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > > when > > > it > > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > > the > > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > > when > > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > > you > > > see > > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > > to > > > > you). > > > > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > > above > > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > > round > > > ek > > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > > the > > > > above miracles. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun > > > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > > topic. > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > > here > > > > in > > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > > So > > > > the > > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > > rudraksha > > > is > > > > > genuine. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know > > > > > Vienna Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > > substantiation. > > > > > i > > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > > groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > fact # 1 > > > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > > rudraksha > > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > > existence > > > > of > > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round. > > > > > > > > > > > > fact # 2 > > > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > > naturally > > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > > provision > > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > > simple > > > > > human > > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > > scriptures > > > > > are > > > > > > mentioning. > > > > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > > ratified > > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > > archives) > > > > > that > > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > > round > > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > > trees, > > > > > that > > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > > and > > > > have > > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > > of > > > > > old > > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > > even > > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > > appreciated > > > > > my > > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > > to > > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > > THE > > > > REAL > > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > > from > > > me > > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > > telling > > > > the > > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > > customers > > > buy > > > > > it, > > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > > is. > > > > > BUT > > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > > ONLY > > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > > cashewnut > > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > > fake > > > > and > > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine. > > > > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > > genuine > > > > or > > > > > > substitute. > > > > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > > of > > > any > > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > > mind > > > > you, > > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > > just > > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > > a > > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > > fault > > > > with > > > > > > customers. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > > have > > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > > enthusiasts > > > > > know > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > > rudraksha > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > > know how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yes yes, this seems more plausible :)"Bhaja govindam, Bhaja govindam, Govindam Bhaja Mudha mate" :)Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:57:19 AM Re: Blessing Rudraksha??? Dear All, Shalagram Shila is svayam rupa... it is not required to "empower"; BUT we must worship every day. This is not to empower the Shalagram, rather it is visa versa. Similar with Rudraksha. When we accept or receive Rudraksha we must first offer respect and fitting greeting for honored seed. It is already empowered. But we need to show respect. Even in the material world if we don't show proper respect to a great man who comes to us then what blessing can be expected? We do not empower the great man by our respect. It is same with Rudraksha. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, "rudraksha67" <satyadharma@ ...> wrote: > > Namaskar > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna: > > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > beads are only effective when they are "activated" by certain (?) > Poojas? > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > ´'activate' them further than what they already are? > > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > everyone to share their input on this. > > > Satyadharma > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@ > wrote: > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > for them. > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > very shallow knowledge. > > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > Y/s, R- > > > > dear friend > > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > buying > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > sacred-objects, Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > is > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > and > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > one > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > 20 > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > hospitalised. > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > bead > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > Rudrakshas. > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads. > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > dear friend > > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > rudraksha > > for > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man. > > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > the > > > round ek mukh. > > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > lines > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom. > > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea. > > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > choice > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > one > > > locule. > > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > when > > it > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > the > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > when > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > you > > see > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > to > > > you). > > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > above > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > round > > ek > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > the > > > above miracles. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Vienna Jones" > > > <butterfly_lovers_ 85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun > > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > topic. > > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > here > > > in > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > So > > > the > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > rudraksha > > is > > > > genuine. > > > > > > > > Let me know > > > > Vienna Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > substantiation. > > > > i > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > groups. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 1 > > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > rudraksha > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > existence > > > of > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round. > > > > > > > > > > fact # 2 > > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > naturally > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > provision > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > simple > > > > human > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > scriptures > > > > are > > > > > mentioning. > > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > ratified > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > archives) > > > > that > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > round > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > trees, > > > > that > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > and > > > have > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > of > > > > old > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > even > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > appreciated > > > > my > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > to > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > THE > > > REAL > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > from > > me > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > telling > > > the > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > customers > > buy > > > > it, > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > is. > > > > BUT > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > ONLY > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > cashewnut > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > fake > > > and > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine. > > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > genuine > > > or > > > > > substitute. > > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > of > > any > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > mind > > > you, > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > just > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap. > > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > a > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > fault > > > with > > > > > customers. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > have > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows? > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "Vienna Jones" > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_ 85@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > enthusiasts > > > > know > > > > > that > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > rudraksha > > > > > but it > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > know how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > here > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. 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Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 ll HARE RAM llDear Sh.Richard Bhai, Saadar Pranam You used very appropriate and accurate word "SVAYAM-RUPA" Empowered, so to offer respect,"BHAVNA" and to have deep faith in both Shalagram & Rudraksha is utmost needed in place of other rituals.All Mantras for so called activation for Rudraksha are related to Bhole-Naath and Mata Parvati.So to just chant their names with complete surrender and respect are enough for wearing any Rudraksha.I think more if and but are not needed at all. Regards Shashie Shekhar Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Dear All,Shalagram Shila is svayam rupa... it is not required to "empower"; BUTwe must worship every day. This is not to empower the Shalagram,rather it is visa versa. Similar with Rudraksha. When we accept orreceive Rudraksha we must first offer respect and fitting greeting forhonored seed. It is already empowered. But we need to show respect.Even in the material world if we don't show proper respect to a greatman who comes to us then what blessing can be expected? We do notempower the great man by our respect. It is same with Rudraksha.Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , "rudraksha67" <satyadharmawrote:>> Namaskar > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna:> > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > beads are only effective when they are "activated" by certain (?)> Poojas? > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > ´'activate' them further than what they already are?> > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > everyone to share their input on this. > > > Satyadharma > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > <shaligram8@> wrote:> >> > Har Har Mahadev,> > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > for them. > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > very shallow knowledge.> > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well.> > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > Y/s, R-> > > > dear friend> > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > buying > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group Members, > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > is > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > and > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha.> > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > one > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > 20 > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > hospitalised. > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > bead > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > Rudrakshas. > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads.> > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa> > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM> > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > dear friend> > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > rudraksha > > for > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man.> > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > the > > > round ek mukh.> > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > lines > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom.> > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea.> > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > to > > you > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > choice > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > one > > > locule.> > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > when > > it > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > the > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas.> > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > when > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > you > > see > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > to > > > you).> > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > above > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > round > > ek > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > the > > > above miracles.> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > pandit arjun> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun> > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > topic.> > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > here > > > in > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > So > > > the > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > rudraksha > > is > > > > genuine.> > > > > > > > Let me know> > > > Vienna Jones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear friends> > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > substantiation. > > > > i > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > groups.> > > > > > > > > > fact # 1> > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > rudraksha > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > existence > > > of > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round.> > > > > > > > > > fact # 2> > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > naturally > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > provision > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > simple > > > > human > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > scriptures > > > > are > > > > > mentioning.> > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > ratified > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > archives) > > > > that > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > round > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > trees, > > > > that > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > others.> > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > and > > > have > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > of > > > > old > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > even > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > appreciated > > > > my > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > to > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > THE > > > REAL > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > from > > me > > > > > earlier.> > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > telling > > > the > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > customers > > buy > > > > it, > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > is. > > > > BUT > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > ONLY > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > cashewnut > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > fake > > > and > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine.> > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > genuine > > > or > > > > > substitute.> > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > of > > any > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > mind > > > you, > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > just > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap.> > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > and > > > it > > > > is > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > a > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > fault > > > with > > > > > customers.> > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw Brown" > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > have > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows?> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Vienna Jones" > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hi all> > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > enthusiasts > > > > know > > > > > that > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > rudraksha > > > > > but it > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > know how.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Respected all authorities, Personally, i do not feel any energizing of Rudraksha, like Navratnas or gems. In my experience, i do not expect rudraksha to bestow material gains. As many had already explained about rudraksha (rudra aksha), i personally consider rudraksha as the holy gift from Lord Siva to the mankind. The belief of the rudraksha wearer itself increase the self powered rudraksha. This is my personal view and many may not accept this. I beg pardon for any inconvenience caused to the forum members because of intrusion. With regards, T. V. Rao On 2/29/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: Dear Panditji, It is the word " energizing " which people find offensive (as if Rudraksha has no energy). I think respect or puja is NOT energizing anything but ourselves. Perhaps, " acceptance " is a better word than energize. Y/s, R- dear richardjiyour endorsing the views of dasaji of energisation as a requirement and the benefits of energisation and giving logical allegories are appreciated. i too appreciate dasaji or any rudraksha supplier in the world if he is doing energisation of the rudrakhsa as per scriptures before giving to the customer.be it you, dasaji or any other members, many have and are supporting this energisation of the rudraksha in one way or other and are even attributing the words aura, energy, power etc. in relation to the energisation of the rudraksha.it is nice to note such positive acceptance, appreciation and tolerance of energisation of rudraksha by other members with mutual symbiotic compliments, albeit the ways and means of energisation by each are different. let us not discuss micro level process of energisation based on scriptures as again some members may show intolerance. earlier i MERELY QUOTED A VERSE FROM SHIVAPURANA where it says that energisation is mandatory before wearing a rudraksha as lord shiva is warning the wearers of non-energised rudraksha to fall into hell for a kalpam. then you all misconstrued as if i am scaring members to go to hell if they dont do energisation, nay, i was called a terrorist because of your misunderstanding that i was giving this warning whereas in reality it was lord shiva who said so. but as a matured person, i took all your criticism positively since it is lord shiva in shivapurana who said so and not me.it is pertinent to note that you all are appreciating energisation and the benefits of energisation NOW. it is also heartening to note that members are coming to a cohesive conclusive observation of energisation giving extra power or energy and a sort of respect etc. with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: >> Dear All,> > Shalagram Shila is svayam rupa... it is not required to " empower " ; BUT> we must worship every day. This is not to empower the Shalagram,> rather it is visa versa. Similar with Rudraksha. When we accept or > receive Rudraksha we must first offer respect and fitting greeting for> honored seed. It is already empowered. But we need to show respect.> > Even in the material world if we don't show proper respect to a great> man who comes to us then what blessing can be expected? We do not> empower the great man by our respect. It is same with Rudraksha.> > Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " rudraksha67 " <satyadharma@> > wrote:> >> > Namaskar > > > > With regards to statement from Mr Rajiv Krishna:> > > > Do the shastras on Rudraksha give an absolute verdict that Rudraksha > > beads are only effective when they are " activated " by certain (?)> > Poojas? > > > > Since they are selfmanifested divinity like Shaligram, how can one > > ´'activate' them further than what they already are? > > > > Also, having another person (priest) chant very expertly on ones > > behalf with mantras or the heartfelt simple prayer to Lord Shiva for > > blessings when one is accepting beads, which is the best..? I invite > > everyone to share their input on this. > > > > > > Satyadharma > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > <shaligram8@> wrote:> > >> > > Har Har Mahadev,> > > Mr. Arjun I can give you thousand examples where in the devotees > > who have received blessed Rudrakshas from us have reaped pots of > > gold in the form of getting good job, getting good contracts, > > getting business and not in 20 days, it is just in less than 10 > > days. We do a very special blessings of every Rudraksha which leaves > > Rudra Centre and that is what is our edge on the rest of the > > Rudrakshas suppliers. Simple Rudraksha wearing does not activate the > > powers in them. People have copied all texts from our website, but > > unfortunately they cannot copy the Rudrakshas invoking/activation > > using Shaber mantras, positive tantras etc. That is how even buying > > few Rudrakshas from other suppliers the complete Siddha Mala we make > > for them. > > > So devotees pl understand that dont just get carried away by few > > Rudrakshas suppliers who copy texts from other websites and talks > > big on this forum to display their knowledge when actually they have > > very shallow knowledge.> > > > > > I take this oppurtunity to also endorse that No supplier can > > supply a genuine One Mukhi Rudraksha with one seed in it, because I > > think it will be stupidity on his part to give away the most > > powerful bead of this universe for few millions. He will be > > definitely a looser and a genuine supplier knows it very well. > > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaye, > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > AHHHH! Ha! Panditji, you have a great sense of humor. > > Y/s, R-> > > > > > dear friend> > > > > > since you mentioned a devotee facing a theft within 20 days of > > buying > > > a crippled rudraksha from elsewhere, please also share any other > > > story where a person who bought uncripped rudraksha from you and > > > discovered pots of gold in his house within 20 days.> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > > <shaligram8@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > If any One Mukhi Rudraksha bead does not have even one quality > > > what this gentleman has written below and still the bead has one > > > developed line and few other underdeveolped lines, then that bead > > is > > > actually a crippled bead and not fit for worshipping an wearing > > and > > > has absolutely no property of one Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > > One of the devotee has recently written to me that he has taken > > one > > > such bead from a known supplier of Kathmandu in Nepal, and with in > > 20 > > > days there was a theft in his house. Later his wife got > > hospitalised. > > > I understand that this may be one odd case but I have written to > > > several devotees whom I know have taken this bead to share there > > > experiences with them. But the problem is that along with this > > bead > > > the devotees have several other genuine different mukhis > > Rudrakshas. > > > Now there good effects is so much that the ill effect of this > > > underdeveloped crippled bead is negated. > > > > So be careful in purchasing such crippled beads.> > > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa> > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > > dear friend> > > > > > > > nice to note that you are searching for a round ek mukh > > rudraksha > > > for > > > > and on behalf of the australia's richest man.> > > > > > > > however, we like to know more on what you mean by genuinity of > > the > > > > round ek mukh.> > > > > > > > 1. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by finding only one fully naturally developed line and no other > > > lines > > > > of even 1 to 2mm length at the top or bottom.> > > > 2. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by making it swim against the tide in a river or a sea.> > > > 3. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi shall be proven > > to > > > you > > > > by taking an xray in front of you at the radiologist of your > > choice > > > > who will confirm the genuinity of it by measuring one seed and > > one > > > > locule.> > > > 4. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is experienced > > when > > > it > > > > miraculously surfaces on the top on its own even when placed at > > the > > > > bottom of a heap of hundreds of other rudrakshas. > > > > 5. do you mean genuinity of the round ek mukhi is proven to you > > > when > > > > you find the solitary line as big and as prominent as the one > > you > > > see > > > > in a cashewnut shaped ek mukhi rudraksha (bhadraksha according > > to > > > > you).> > > > > > > > if you are looking for a round ek mukhi that meets with the > > above > > > > five parameters, i cannot help you as i deal only in simple > > round > > > ek > > > > mukhi which has only one naturally developed line sans any of > > the > > > > above miracles.> > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. pandit arjun> > > > > Thanks for further enlightening all of the members on this > > topic.> > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone on this group who can sell a 1 faced round > > > > > rudraksha. I know that James Packer son of late Kerry Packer > > here > > > > in > > > > > Australia is keen to acquire one for any price what so ever. > > So > > > > the > > > > > $$$$ is not a issue for payment as far as the 1 faced > > rudraksha > > > is > > > > > genuine.> > > > > > > > > > Let me know> > > > > Vienna Jones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > dear friends> > > > > > > > > > > > few years ago, since few customers demanded, i too got these > > > > > > cashewnut type rudrakshalooking beads made available to few > > > > > > customers. soon i realised that i am doing a wrong thing by > > > > > > promoting something which DOES NOT have scriptural > > > > substantiation. > > > > > i > > > > > > have the convinction of truth to admit this publicly in all > > > > groups.> > > > > > > > > > > > fact # 1> > > > > > all scriptures that narrate rudraksha unanimously says that > > > > > rudraksha > > > > > > are round in shape. no scripture even vaguely mention > > existence > > > > of > > > > > > other types of rudraksha other than round.> > > > > > > > > > > > fact # 2> > > > > > all scriptures also narrate about a rudraksha having a hole > > > > > naturally > > > > > > as better and have a couple of verses on the hole of the > > > > > rudrakhsa. > > > > > > since this cashewnut looking bead DOES NOT have any hole > > > > provision > > > > > > nor it has any possibility to have a natural hole, it is > > simple > > > > > human > > > > > > logic to understand that THIS IS NOT THE RUDRAKSHA the > > > scriptures > > > > > are > > > > > > mentioning.> > > > > > > > > > > > above all, scientists like doctor chandrasekhar phadkeji > > > ratified > > > > > > earlier in this group (unaware members can search the > > archives) > > > > > that > > > > > > this cashnewnut looking bead does not exactly fall into the > > > round > > > > > > rudraksha variety of the tree in botanical terms. since this > > > > > > cashnewut bead does not fall into the same rudraksha jaat > > > trees, > > > > > that > > > > > > itself is reason enough to shun this, at least by me if not > > > > others.> > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly i stopped selling this cashnewnut looking bead > > and > > > > have > > > > > > REMOVED the photographs from my website as well. to a couple > > of > > > > > old > > > > > > customers who bought this cashewnut bead from me earlier, i > > > even > > > > > > offered to recall and pay their monies back, but they > > > appreciated > > > > > my > > > > > > honesty and truthspeaking and said that since they were made > > to > > > > > > believe by other rudraksha sellers as if CASHEWNUT BEAD IS > > THE > > > > REAL > > > > > > EKMUKH, they dont feel cheated for buying this cashewnut > > from > > > me > > > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > here as a dealer of rudraksha, i must mince no words in > > telling > > > > the > > > > > > world that if someone sells this cashewnut bead and > > customers > > > buy > > > > > it, > > > > > > there is no problem as both knew beforehand what the product > > > is. > > > > > BUT > > > > > > IF THE SELLER GOES TO THE EXTENT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE > > > ONLY > > > > > > GENUINE EKMUKHI, that is wrong. some overenthusiastic > > cashewnut > > > > > > sellers went to the extent of saying that round ekmukh is > > fake > > > > and > > > > > > cashewnut shaped bead is genuine.> > > > > > > > > > > > it is buyers choice as to which product they shall get, > > genuine > > > > or > > > > > > substitute.> > > > > > > > > > > > in the bylanes of delhi, the shopkeeper asks the customers > > of > > > any > > > > > > product, you want original company good or a local make. > > mind > > > > you, > > > > > > many people wilfully ask and buy the local (duplicate) good > > > just > > > > > > because it is easily available and cheap.> > > > > > > > > > > > so, customer is the king and he knows everything beforehand > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > is his well informed decision and discretion whether to buy > > a > > > > > > cashewnut bead or a round bead and none of us shall find > > fault > > > > with > > > > > > customers.> > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It, like, might be Bhadraksha. But it's STILL supposed to > > > have > > > > > > powers of like, ahh, who knows?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Vienna Jones " > > > > > > <butterfly_lovers_85@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > hi all> > > > > > > > Just wanted to let all of you 1 faced rudraksha > > enthusiasts > > > > > know > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > the 1 faced cashewnut shaped rudraksha is not really a > > > > > rudraksha > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > is a species of rudraksha commonly known as bhadraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vienna > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to > > > know how. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here> > >> >> -- t. v. rao9879110682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Har Har Mahdev, Pranaam Mr. Rao, have you ever noticed that when you had just received your Rudrakshas or when the Rudrakshas are in the process of reaching you and after you have worn them for few months there is a change in your life, some or the other activity is changing your life may be for good, and after few months the life becomes normal I mean no significant changes in your life and it continues for even years. Mahadev Rao if your answer is 'yes' that means your Rudrakshas needs blessings and rejuvenation or revoking or reactvation to remain powerful as before ( what ever you can term this). Sir lots of our devotee customers had experienced the stagnation in thier lives ( I mean no significant change) and therefore send thier malas to us after 6 months or a year or even 2 years and we do a special kind of puja ( almost the same puja which we do before sending the new malas to the devotees)and thereafter all these devotee clients in their own words mail us that that now their Rudraksha mala is as powerful as it came new from Rudra Centre. Now this is their experience and we can show you several testimonials for this. I am slightly convinced with your theory that Rudrakshas dont require any blessings or worship prior to wearing, It is a kind of humbleness or respect we are offering to the beads prior to wearing them( as rightly said by Respected RSB ji in his earlier posting). We have observed over a period of almost 10 to 12 years that Rudrakshas once energised ( in our terminology not to hurt anybody's sentiments) does make a lots of difference. The mantras we recite during blessings are very powerful ( We came to know about these Mantras after a deep study and numerous experiments for over 5 to 6 years) and they are the ones which makes the difference. We recommend recommend to our devotee clients that they should keep reciting the Beej Mantras and other mantras while wearing the Rudraksha mala . We do the blessings of Rudrakshas free of cost for all our devotees. Thanks and Regards, Rajiv Krishna Dasa t v rao <tvraoagd wrote: Respected all authorities, . Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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