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Dear members, This person , Avtar Krishen Kaul , claims qualification based simply on scholarship. While he quotes Bhagavad gita and other sastras, he's ignoring one important statement by Sri Krishna "That to understand the gita one must become a devotee of the person Bhagavan Krishna" Bg 4.3. Since he is not a devotee of Sri Krishna , his views are worthless. In my opinion, he's a perfect example of a "Veda vada rata (supposed follower of the Vedas) Bg 2.42 and Mayaya parita jnana (One whose knowledge is stolen by illusion) Bg 7.15. His discussion of Krishna's birth lila shows what an absolute fool he is. One should hear Vedic conclusions from a bona fide devotee of the Supreme Lord. Then one will not be misled. Jaya Sri

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Sriman, Just as I detest the message shared by Mr. Vispute. I would love you to elaborate your statement, "Bonafide Devotee of the Supreme Lord" Are you a Bonafide Devotee!!!, do you know of a living bonafide devotee!!!. Debate does not mean you disqualify a person based on whether his views are in consonance with what textbook knowledge you have been drilled with. Mr AK Kaul (thru his courier Mr. Vispute) is within his right to vent his views, Just as you can retort with arguments. But you can't shoo away people like this. Your stance is undemocratic, let lord only be a jugde of who is a bonafide devotee. You should concentate on your own devotion. Mr. Kaul has'nt questioned your devotion. He has questioned Jyotish... Grow Up!!! David Sherk

<gadaidasa wrote: Dear members, This person ,Avtar Krishen Kaul , claims qualification based simply on scholarship. While he quotes Bhagavad gita and other sastras, he's ignoring one important statement by Sri Krishna "That to understand the gita one must become a devotee of the person Bhagavan Krishna" Bg 4.3. Since he is not a devotee of Sri Krishna , his views are

worthless. In my opinion, he's a perfect example of a "Veda vada rata (supposed follower of the Vedas) Bg 2.42 and Mayaya parita jnana (One whose knowledge is stolen by illusion) Bg 7.15. His discussion of Krishna's birth lila shows what an absolute fool he is. One should hear Vedic conclusions from a bona fide devotee of the Supreme Lord. Then one will not be misled. Jaya Sri Krishna Best regards Gadai Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Hari bol Sorry this irked you. AC Bhaktivedanta presented Bhagavad gita AS IT IS. If you read his version carefully, you will find that the conclusions which I stated are indisputable. Yet it is impossible to awaken anyone who is pretending to be asleep. JIv Jago Jiv Jago Wake up , sleeping soul. We are not interested in Democracy. Krishna is the transcendental AUTOCRAT. His history of smashing the asuras is well known. Those who are not devotees of the Supreme Lord are not qualified to instruct on the conclusions of any Vedic literature. My apologies if you don't care for these conclusions. I am just warning the innocent members to ignore this man's rubbish. Well within my rights. Hare

Krishna GadaiAbhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: Sriman, Just as I detest the message shared by Mr. Vispute. I would love you to elaborate your statement, "Bonafide Devotee of the Supreme Lord" Are you a Bonafide Devotee!!!, do you know of a living bonafide devotee!!!. Debate does not mean you

disqualify a person based on whether his views are in consonance with what textbook knowledge you have been drilled with. Mr AK Kaul (thru his courier Mr. Vispute) is within his right to vent his views, Just as you can retort with arguments. But you can't shoo away people like this. Your stance is undemocratic, let lord only be a jugde of who is a bonafide devotee. You should concentate on your own devotion. Mr. Kaul has'nt questioned your devotion. He has questioned Jyotish... Grow Up!!! David Sherk <gadaidasa > wrote: Dear

members, This person ,Avtar Krishen Kaul , claims qualification based simply on scholarship. While he quotes Bhagavad gita and other sastras, he's ignoring one important statement by Sri Krishna "That to understand the gita one must become a devotee of the person Bhagavan Krishna" Bg 4.3. Since he is not a devotee of Sri Krishna , his views are worthless. In my opinion, he's a perfect example of a "Veda vada rata (supposed follower of the Vedas) Bg 2.42 and Mayaya parita jnana (One whose knowledge is stolen by illusion) Bg 7.15. His discussion of Krishna's birth lila shows what an absolute fool he is. One should hear Vedic conclusions from a bona fide devotee of the Supreme Lord. Then one will not be misled. Jaya Sri

Krishna Best regards Gadai Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

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My Dear Friend, I am undeserving of your sincere apology. It does not bother me, whether you & your Sampradaya are not interested in Democracy, it's good for you. While for those, who believe in it, Lord is forever the Maverick Democrat. As i shall also maintain, that it is not for the world to decide who is a bonafide devotee, lord alone enjoys this transcendental privilege. Best Wishes David Sherk <gadaidasa wrote: Hari bol Sorry this irked you. AC Bhaktivedanta presented Bhagavad gita AS IT IS. If you read his version carefully, you will find that the conclusions which I stated are indisputable. Yet it is impossible to awaken anyone who is pretending to be asleep. JIv Jago Jiv Jago Wake up , sleeping soul. We are not interested in Democracy. Krishna is the transcendental AUTOCRAT. His history of smashing the asuras is well known. Those who are not devotees of the Supreme Lord are not qualified to instruct on the conclusions of any Vedic literature. My apologies if you don't care for these conclusions. I am just warning the innocent members to ignore this man's rubbish. Well within my rights. Hare

Krishna GadaiAbhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sriman, Just as I detest the message shared by Mr. Vispute. I would love you to elaborate your statement, "Bonafide Devotee of the Supreme Lord" Are you a Bonafide Devotee!!!, do you know of a living bonafide devotee!!!. Debate does not mean you disqualify a person based on whether his views are in consonance with what textbook knowledge you have been drilled with. Mr AK Kaul (thru his courier Mr. Vispute) is within his right to vent his views, Just as you can retort with arguments. But you can't shoo away

people like this. Your stance is undemocratic, let lord only be a jugde of who is a bonafide devotee. You should concentate on your own devotion. Mr. Kaul has'nt questioned your devotion. He has questioned Jyotish... Grow Up!!! David Sherk <gadaidasa > wrote: Dear members, This person ,Avtar Krishen Kaul , claims qualification based simply on scholarship. While he quotes Bhagavad gita and other sastras, he's ignoring one important statement by Sri Krishna "That to understand the gita one must become a devotee of the person Bhagavan

Krishna" Bg 4.3. Since he is not a devotee of Sri Krishna , his views are worthless. In my opinion, he's a perfect example of a "Veda vada rata (supposed follower of the Vedas) Bg 2.42 and Mayaya parita jnana (One whose knowledge is stolen by illusion) Bg 7.15. His discussion of Krishna's birth lila shows what an absolute fool he is. One should hear Vedic conclusions from a bona fide devotee of the Supreme Lord. Then one will not be misled. Jaya Sri Krishna Best regards Gadai Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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