HELP! What's the CORRECT rasi-chart for Swami Prabhupada??

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HELP! What's the CORRECT rasi-chart for Swami Prabhupada??

 

Concerning the rasi chart of Tridani Bhikshu Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada,

founder of the Hare Krishna Movement, there is the question of which house his

Saturn is placed?? This is because that in spite of his stating his birth time

to be " 4 PM on September 1, 1896 in Calcutta, India, " which gives Capricorn

Lagna, still, some disciple astrologers think HDG was mistaken and MUST have

been born at 3:30 PM making his lagna (the required) Sagg, and moving 3 planets

from 8th house to 9th house.

 

It is strange that some Swami Prabhupada disciples says that every word uttered

by him is " absolute " to the point that he is right even when he is wrong!?? Or

is that visa versa?

 

This is birthtime issue. Capricorn Lagna OR Sagg Lagna?? We have already seen

the man's entire life, so we should be able to judge based on reality. Any

comments from all you experts out there on the birth time and correct chart of

Swami Prabhupada based on these two times? REF.

http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/dedication.html

 

This is a good exercise for all astrologers to consider, because it concerns a

REAL " Jagad-

Guru " of Sanatana Dharma and a liberated paramahamsa.

 

Y/s,

Richard

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Jaya Prabhu, I accept the conclusion of Nalini Kantha (Tom Hopke) as presented in his 1988 Book. Quarter hour birth times are always suspect to me as possible estimates by the medical personnel. Has anyone calculated the exact time when the ascendant was changing from Sagittarius to Capricorn. Another consideration is the ayanamsa. Having the Yoga of Surya-Brihaspati in the 9th house seems much more appropriate for a MahaBhagavata. One must use common sense.Bask in the rays of his mercy. Hari Hari GadaiRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: HELP! What's the CORRECT rasi-chart for Swami Prabhupada?? Concerning the rasi chart of Tridani Bhikshu Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of the Hare Krishna Movement, there is the question of which house his Saturn is placed?? This is because that in spite of his stating his birth time to be "4 PM on September 1, 1896 in Calcutta, India," which gives Capricorn Lagna, still, some disciple astrologers think HDG was mistaken and MUST have been born at 3:30 PM making his lagna (the required) Sagg, and moving 3 planets from 8th house to 9th house. It is strange that some Swami Prabhupada disciples says that every word uttered by him is "absolute" to the point that he is right even when he is wrong!?? Or is that visa

versa? This is birthtime issue. Capricorn Lagna OR Sagg Lagna?? We have already seen the man's entire life, so we should be able to judge based on reality. Any comments from all you experts out there on the birth time and correct chart of Swami Prabhupada based on these two times? REF. http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/dedication.html This is a good exercise for all astrologers to consider, because it concerns a REAL "Jagad- Guru" of Sanatana Dharma and a liberated paramahamsa. Y/s, Richard

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according to robert koch

SPIRITUAL VEDIC ASTROLOGY

PAGE

334

RASI

SRILA PRABHUPADA

SEPT 1 1896

15:24:00

5:53 EST18 E22

22N32

THEN PN PAGE132 hIS pUNYA CHART OF THE MOMENT OF

DEATH

NOV 14 1977 7:20:00

5:30 EST

77e 42

 

 

 

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According to Swami Prabhupada, he was born at 4 pm with Capricorn lagna.

 

And Robert Koch says otherwise!?

 

So who do we believe?

 

Best wishes,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , anne thakur <annethakur wrote:

>

> according to robert koch

> SPIRITUAL VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> PAGE

> 334

> RASI

> SRILA PRABHUPADA

> SEPT 1 1896

> 15:24:00

> 5:53 EST18 E22

> 22N32

> THEN PN PAGE132 hIS pUNYA CHART OF THE MOMENT OF

> DEATH

> NOV 14 1977 7:20:00

> 5:30 EST

> 77e 42

>

>

>

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aaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! i dont know please study

the koch do you wish me to forward to you somehow?

and look at the puny chart fascinating absolutely fascinating!

 

 

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IN REGARDS TOsRILA pRABHUPADA CORRECT BIRTHTIME rOBERT

kOCH STATES

AS FOLLOWS

there are frequent discrepencies int he matter of

older birth times and as such rectification is

necessary for charts predating the 20th century. In

this case some astrologers advocate a birth time that

is later than that which is used in this analysis.

those proponents change the lagna to capricorn whereas

the earlier time used herein gives sag as the

ascendant. apart froma rguments in favour of sag the

following are among the most compelling to this

author. the correctness of sag asc is more easily

understood by way of reference to specific life

attributes as follows:

OUTSTANDING CHART CHARACTERISTICS:RASI CHART

among auspicious features of this chart, lagna lord

jupiter joins moksakaraka ketu in the 9th house with

9th lord Sun.This comb, including the aspect of 5th

lord Mars, generates a significant

DHARMA-KARMADHIPATI-YOGA through whioch He gained

strength in hs mission toe stablish & permeate the

world with the principles of dharma. this combination

is further emphasized, with ATMAKARAKA RAHU WHO

OCCUPOES THE 3RD,ak LAGNA lORD sATURN WHO IS EXALTED

IN THE 9TH( FROM ATMAKARAKA) AND ALL WHO RECIEVE THE

ASPECTS OF THE JUPITER-sUN_KETU COMBINATION INT HE 9TH

FROM THE ASCENDANE lEO

FURTHER TO THIS, pRABHUPADA WAS A SANNYASI who

detached himself from maya.This tendency can be easily

seen through the Moons position in a DRekkana of

Saturn, aspected (rasi drsti) by Mars & Saturn, a

PARIVRAJYA-YOGA (yoga for ascetism).He was a sadhu of

very distinguished(brahmana guru) and refined quality.

THis can be seen from the Sadhu-yoga forming in his

chart/(benefics placed in 3rd or 6th form the arudha

lagna

indicate a sadhu or Sadhu_yoga

 

 

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DEVOTION & SERVICE TO sRI vISNU IN THE FORM OF kRSNA

RESULTS FROM EXALTED mERCURY (vISNU) IN THE 6TH FROMT

HE ARUDHA LAGNA WITH vENUS( WHO REPS lAKSHMI-DEVI OR

sRIMATI rAHARANI & WHO ACCEPTS THE SERVICE OF b A

BHAKTA ON BEHALF OF vISNU. tHESE COMBINATION bring

the full manifestation of Visnu-tattva Deities

Radha-Krsna to the 6th house a very important area of

the chart representing seva or devotional service.

since the 6th from the arudha lagna is emphasized by

this comb. Prabhupadas devotion became known all over

theworld, & was also very visible by way of his

accomplishments. finally, if venus is in the 6th from

the arudha lagna the practice of celibacy is complete.

Raja-Lakshmi-yoga: Jupiter, Sun and Ketu in the sign

of Leo are very indicative of the very HIGH SPIRITUAL

consciousness attained by this person & they

constitute the most important raja-yogas in this

chart. The Raja-Lakshmi yoga that results is the most

important comb. indicating the alignment and devotion

to Lakshmi & visnu or Radha-Krsna. THE JUPITER SUN

KETU IN THE 8TH HOUSE(AS PER THE PROPOSED CAPRICORN

RISING CHART) WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH MYSTICISM, YOGA OR

TANTRA, WHEREAS IN TEH SAG RISING 9TH HOUSE THEY

DIRECTLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE DEVOTIONAL SERVICE

(BHAKTI-YOGA) & EVERYHTING ASSOCIATED WITH LASKSHMI,

WHO PERSIDES OVER THE 9TH HOUSE. LASKSHMI & VISNU are

synonymous, & thus the areas of the chart indicative

of Vaisnavaism ( 9th house in partciular) are always

emphasized in the charts of Vaishnavas. furthermore

the 8th house has greater relevance to the Saivite

tradition as Siva resides over the natural fixed signs

which are 2nd 5th 8th & 11th houses. If the most

significant of Visn-Yogas indicating great

spirituality fall int he natural fixed sign locations

particularly the 8th house the lineage is Shaivite &

not Vaishnava or worship of Visnu Krsna radha.

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IN THE PUNYA CHAR( MOMENT OF DEATH)

ACCORDING TO THE PUNYA CHART THIS WAS A PURE SAINT

WHO ATTAINED MOSKHA AFTER hIS DEPARTURE FROM THE

PHYSICAL PLANE HERE ARE SOME KEY PRINCIPLES

ILLUMINATED THROUGH HIS PUNYA CHART

TEH LAGNA OCCUPIED BY MERCURY, WHILE the 6th & 7th are

empty. thus, there were no sad-ripus or material

attachments while the mepty 7th indicates that there

were no more rebirths in this earthly world. jupiters

prescence in the 8th completely PARDONS ANY KINDS OF

TRANSGRESSIONS THAT THE NATIVE MAY HAVE COMMITTEDM

KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY. hIS ASPECT TO THE 12TH

HOUSE, while the 12th lord Venus occupies the sign in

great strength guarantees moksha to Srila Prabhupada

following his earthly departure Venus strength as the

Lord of the 12th occupying his mulatrikona sign

indicates Prabhupadas mental absorbption at the time

of death was in Sri Radha & Sri Krsna his

Ista-devatas.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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