Elephant Pearls - Bhah! Get REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

November 19, 2007

Dear Sriman,

We cannot say all the products at http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake.

We do not know all their products. I obtained some genuine objects but I had to

search and test. As for Cobra nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the

REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real Nagamani has great powers. So who is the

fool that would sell one?

Save your money and get a genuine Lakshmi Shank instead. They cost Rs 3000-9000

per gram. And they ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are selling

the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there is 1% who are genuine. Some of the

members of this group belong in the 1% genuine category and can supply you.

Best wishes,

Richard

sacred-objects , " mala_200610 " <mala_200610 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> so all the nagamanis on this site

> http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are fake?are there any

> sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so, all must be

> fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani from its head have

> same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or stones according to

> results of my research.

> > Y/s, Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Gentlemen

> > >

> > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga Mani ( King Cobra

> Pearl) or NOT?

> > >

> > > ---NOT!

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Ranganath P

> > > International Business Partner

> > > Bangalore

> > > Askranga@

> > >

> > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:

> > > I am unable to understand. The Paper that was

> mentioned here indicates that the

> > so called elephant pearls were man made from Elephant molars.

> > >

> > > Menon

> > >

> > > sacred-objects

> > > rsbj66@

> > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000

> > > Re: Re: " Elephant Pearls of Sri Lanka "

> is this Real Naga Mani?

> > photo included

> > >

> > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT contribution. Y/s,

> Richard

> > >

> > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Friends !!!!

> > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e International Pearling

> Journal

> > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....

> > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email with beautiful

> fotos...

> > > >

> > > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards

> > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

> > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore )

> and

> > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture

> > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other

> members in

> > > >

> > > > > this thread.....

> > > > >

> > > > > How are they made ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of

> 12-16

> > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust

> (discarded

> > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes

> > > > depending

> > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped required.

> > > > >

> > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these

> tupes or

> > > > tubs

> > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.

> > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and

> these

> > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator

> machine is

> > > > like

> > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or

> Thai

> > > > Rice

> > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the

> lighter

> > > > > husks.

> > > > >

> > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine

> Coconut

> > > > snail

> > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell,

> (common

> > > > in

> > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean

> coastlines.

> > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with

> lines and

> > > >

> > > > a

> > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly

> agitated

> > > > again

> > > > > to remove human workings on it.

> > > > >

> > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in

> coconut milk

> > > >

> > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for

> few days.

> > > > >

> > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the

> > > > coconut

> > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut

> milk

> > > > > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.

> > > > >

> > > > > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed

> coconut

> > > > > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of

> fresh

> > > > > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the

> piece

> > > > > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and

> diamonds

> > > > >

> > > > > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky

> hailstones and

> > > > > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they

> are

> > > > salt

> > > > > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its

> salts...

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this info is useful

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like the " limbo dance " - how LOW can you GO! They have

> > > > MANY " Cloud

> > > > > Pearls " - but if you test with a lab and prove " artifical

> glass "

> > > > then

> > > > > what is their refund policy?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi

> <jaymunshi@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are

> very

> > > > very

> > > > > very common

> > > > > > > http://www.manizone.co.uk/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jay

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > > > > I AGREE!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon

> <kochu1@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another

> myth

> > > > > perpetrated by the

> > > > > > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about

> it till

> > > >

> > > > > after he realises he was

> > > > > > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray,

> under

> > > > what

> > > > > law is it banned?

> > > > > > > Menon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007

> 18:21:35

> > > > > +0000[sacred-

> > > > > > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance

> of " Naga

> > > > > mani " ? Is Nagamani

> > > > > > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-

> > > > > objects , Ranganath P

> > > > > > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to

> Sold

> > > > in

> > > > > Public, > Since it

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear

> that the

> > > >

> > > > > items which are Sale

> > > > > > May

> > > > > > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath>

> International

> > > >

> > > > > Business Partner>

> > > > > > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These

> are

> > > > > glass. Why not get

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass,

> known

> > > > > stones, or any other ID? You

> > > > > > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is

> true even

> > > >

> > > > > with normal stones, what

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they

> cannot

> > > > > sell it (except to an idiot).

> > > > > > Y/

> > > > > > > s, Richard> > sacred-

> objects , " Raj "

> > > > > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim

> to have

> > > > >

> > > > > > nagamanis of different

> > > > > > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are

> they

> > > > fake

> > > > > too?http://

> > > > > > > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > >

> > > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

> > > > > http://

> > > > > > i7.tinypic.com/

> > > > > > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from

> cobra but

> > > > > cant believe them at >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very

> difficult

> > > > to

> > > > > find> > sacred-

> > > > > > > objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > >

> <rsbj66@>

> > > > > wrote:> > >> > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this

> type. It >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > is artificial glass. Y/s,

> > > > > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> objects , " Raj "

> > > >

> > > > > <raj_maiil@>

> > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please

> tell me

> > > > > whether this is a real

> > > > > > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > >

> >

> > > > there

> > > > > are lots of fake

> > > > > > > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > >

> this is

> > > > a

> > > > > real nagamani

> > > > > > please

> > > > > > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do

> You

> > > > ?

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November 20, 2007

Thanks for your suggestions Below site contains so many different types of pearls but just posted the black colored ones. http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html If there is a real Nagamani (King Cobra Pearl) then 1. What is the Size/Dimension/Weight of it. 2. What are the Genuine colours as it appears 3. How is the Raw Materail look like? 4. If the Nagamani is polished then how does it look like?5. What could be the Shape of Genuine one? 6. Does it emits any light by itself? 7. Please explain those Great Powers in details This is for our Knowlege Sharing and be more and more cautious before fooling Hope this Group has

Geniune pics/information to share to ALL & Everyone Regards Ranganath P International Business Partner Askranga Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Dear Sriman,We cannot say all the products at http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do not know all their products. I obtained some genuine objects but I had to

search and test. As for Cobra nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real Nagamani has great powers. So who is the fool that would sell one?Save your money and get a genuine Lakshmi Shank instead. They cost Rs 3000-9000 per gram. And they ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there is 1% who are genuine. Some of the members of this group belong in the 1% genuine category and can supply you.Best wishes,Richardsacred-objects , "mala_200610" <mala_200610 wrote:>> Sir,> so all the nagamanis on this site > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are fake?are there any > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so, all must be

> fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani from its head have > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?> sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or stones according to > results of my research. > > Y/s, Richard> > > > sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> > wrote:> > >> > > Gentlemen> > > > > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga Mani ( King Cobra > Pearl) or NOT?> > > > > > ---NOT!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ranganath P> > > International Business Partner> > > Bangalore> > > Askranga@> > > > > > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:> > > I am unable to understand. The Paper that was > mentioned here indicates that the > > so called elephant pearls were man made from Elephant molars.> > > > > > Menon> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > rsbj66@> > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > Re: Re:

"Elephant Pearls of Sri Lanka" > is this Real Naga Mani? > > photo included> > > > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT contribution. Y/s, > Richard> > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > > Friends !!!!> > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e International Pearling > Journal> > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....> > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email with beautiful > fotos...> > > > > > > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > > > > Best Regards> > > > sacred-objects , "bala_songyi" > > >

> <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) > and > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other > members in> > > > > > > > > this thread.....> > > > > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of > 12-16 > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust > (discarded > > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes > > > > depending > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped required.> > > > > > >

> > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these > tupes or > > > > tubs > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.> > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and > these > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator > machine is > > > > like > > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or > Thai > > > > Rice > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the > lighter > > > > > husks. > > > > > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine > Coconut > > > > snail > > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, > (common > > >

> in > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean > coastlines.> > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with > lines and> > > > > > > > a > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly > agitated > > > > again > > > > > to remove human workings on it.> > > > > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in > coconut milk> > > > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for > few days.> > > > > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the > > > > coconut > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut > milk > >

> > > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.> > > > > > > > > > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed > coconut > > > > > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of > fresh > > > > > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the > piece > > > > > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and > diamonds> > > > > > > > > > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky > hailstones and > > > > > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they > are > > > > salt > > > > > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its > salts...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this info is

useful> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Like the "limbo dance" - how LOW can you GO! They have > > > > MANY "Cloud > > > > > Pearls" - but if you test with a lab and prove "artifical > glass" > > > > then > > > > > what is their refund policy?> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi > <jaymunshi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all

manis are > very > > > > very > > > > > very common > > > > > > > http://www.manizone.co.uk/> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jay> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > > I AGREE!!!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon > <kochu1@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another > myth > > > > >

perpetrated by the> > > > > > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about > it till> > > > > > > > > after he realises he was> > > > > > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, > under > > > > what > > > > > law is it banned?> > > > > > > Menon> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 > 18:21:35 > > > > > +0000[sacred-> > > > > > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance > of "Naga > > > > > mani"? Is Nagamani> > > > > > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-> > > > > objects , Ranganath P> > > > > > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to > Sold > > > > in > > > > > Public, > Since it> > > > > > has> > > > > > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear > that the> > > > > > > > > items which are Sale> > > > > > May> > > > > > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> > International> > > > > > > > > Business

Partner>> > > > > > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These > are > > > > > glass. Why not get> > > > > > the> > > > > > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, > known > > > > > stones, or any other ID? You> > > > > > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is > true even> > > > > > > > > with normal stones, what> > > > > > to> > > > > > > speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they > cannot > > > > > sell it (except to an idiot).> > > > > > Y/> > > > > > > s, Richard> > sacred-> objects , "Raj" >

> > > > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim > to have > > > > > > > > > > > nagamanis of different> > > > > > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are > they > > > > fake > > > > > too?http://> > > > > > > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > > > > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg > > > > > http://> > > > > > i7.tinypic.com/> > > > > > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from > cobra but > > > > > cant believe them at >> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very > difficult > > > > to > > > > > find> > sacred-> > > > > > > objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > <rsbj66@> > > > > > wrote:> > >> > >> > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this > type. It >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is artificial glass. Y/s,> > > > > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-> objects , "Raj"> > > > > > > > > <raj_maiil@>> > > > > > > wrote:> > >

>> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please > tell me > > > > > whether this is a real> > > > > > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > > > > > > there > > > > > are lots of fake> > > > > > > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > > this is > > > > a > > > > > real nagamani> > > > > > please> > > > > > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Do > You > > > > ?> > > > > > Tired of

spam?> > > > > > > Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ________> > > > > > > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live > Ideas—so > > > > new > > > > > they haven't even> > > > > > > been officially released yet.> > > > > > > > http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > > > > > > Mail. See how.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > >

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November 20, 2007

Dear Sir,

What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi Shank

best regards

Vignhesh

--- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> Dear Sriman,

>

> We cannot say all the products at

> http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do

> not know all their products. I obtained some genuine

> objects but I had to search and test. As for Cobra

> nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the

> REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real Nagamani has

> great powers. So who is the fool that would sell

> one?

>

> Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000

per gram. And they

> ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are

> selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there

> is 1% who are genuine. Some of the members of this

> group belong in the 1% genuine category and can

> supply you.

>

> Best wishes,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " mala_200610 "

> <mala_200610 wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > so all the nagamanis on this site

> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are

> fake?are there any

> > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,

> all must be

> > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani

> from its head have

> > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?

> > sacred-objects , " Richard

> Shaw-Brown "

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or

> stones according to

> > results of my research.

> > > Y/s, Richard

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , Ranganath

> P <askranga@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gentlemen

> > > >

> > > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga

> Mani ( King Cobra

> > Pearl) or NOT?

> > > >

> > > > ---NOT!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your time

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Ranganath P

> > > > International Business Partner

> > > > Bangalore

> > > > Askranga@

> > > >

> > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:

> > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper

> that was

> > mentioned here indicates that the

> > > so called elephant pearls were man made from

> Elephant molars.

> > > >

> > > > Menon

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects

> > > > rsbj66@

> > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000

> > > > Re: Re: " Elephant

> Pearls of Sri Lanka "

> > is this Real Naga Mani?

> > > photo included

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT

> contribution. Y/s,

> > Richard

> > > >

> > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Friends !!!!

> > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e

> International Pearling

> > Journal

> > > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....

> > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email

> with beautiful

> > fotos...

> > > > >

> http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > sacred-objects ,

> " bala_songyi "

> > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,

> (Near Singapore )

> > and

> > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,

> which manufacture

> > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as

> referred by other

> > members in

> > > > >

> > > > > > this thread.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How are they made ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or

> cast iron tubs of

> > 12-16

> > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal

> granules and dust

> > (discarded

> > > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into

> these tubes or tubes

> > > > > depending

> > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped

> required.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are

> put into these

> > tupes or

> > > > > tubs

> > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator

> machine.

> > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to

> 12 feet wide and

> > these

> > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.

> An agitator

> > machine is

> > > > > like

> > > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in

> Indian Rice mills or

> > Thai

> > > > > Rice

> > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans

> blowing away the

> > lighter

> > > > > > husks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made

> from Marine

> > Coconut

> > > > > snail

> > > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5

> inches thick shell,

> > (common

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra

> Indian ocean

> > coastlines.

> > > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls

> are carved with

> > lines and

> > > > >

> > > > > a

> > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller

> and lightly

> > agitated

> > > > > again

> > > > > > to remove human workings on it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls

> are boiled in

> > coconut milk

> > > > >

> > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the

> coconut gratings, for

> > few days.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger

> for months from the

> > > > > coconut

> > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will

> emit the coconut

> > milk

>

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Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams (if you can

afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard

sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi Shank

>

> best regards

> Vignhesh

>

> --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> > Dear Sriman,

> >

> > We cannot say all the products at

> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do

> > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine

> > objects but I had to search and test. As for Cobra

> > nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the

> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real Nagamani has

> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell

> > one?

> >

> > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000

> per gram. And they

> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are

> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there

> > is 1% who are genuine. Some of the members of this

> > group belong in the 1% genuine category and can

> > supply you.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , " mala_200610 "

> > <mala_200610@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > so all the nagamanis on this site

> > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are

> > fake?are there any

> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,

> > all must be

> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani

> > from its head have

> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?

> > > sacred-objects , " Richard

> > Shaw-Brown "

> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or

> > stones according to

> > > results of my research.

> > > > Y/s, Richard

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects , Ranganath

> > P <askranga@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gentlemen

> > > > >

> > > > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga

> > Mani ( King Cobra

> > > Pearl) or NOT?

> > > > >

> > > > > ---NOT!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your time

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Ranganath P

> > > > > International Business Partner

> > > > > Bangalore

> > > > > Askranga@

> > > > >

> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:

> > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper

> > that was

> > > mentioned here indicates that the

> > > > so called elephant pearls were man made from

> > Elephant molars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Menon

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects

> > > > > rsbj66@

> > > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000

> > > > > Re: Re: " Elephant

> > Pearls of Sri Lanka "

> > > is this Real Naga Mani?

> > > > photo included

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT

> > contribution. Y/s,

> > > Richard

> > > > >

> > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Friends !!!!

> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e

> > International Pearling

> > > Journal

> > > > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....

> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email

> > with beautiful

> > > fotos...

> > > > > >

> > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > > sacred-objects ,

> > " bala_songyi "

> > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,

> > (Near Singapore )

> > > and

> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,

> > which manufacture

> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as

> > referred by other

> > > members in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > this thread.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How are they made ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or

> > cast iron tubs of

> > > 12-16

> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal

> > granules and dust

> > > (discarded

> > > > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into

> > these tubes or tubes

> > > > > > depending

> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped

> > required.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are

> > put into these

> > > tupes or

> > > > > > tubs

> > > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator

> > machine.

> > > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to

> > 12 feet wide and

> > > these

> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.

> > An agitator

> > > machine is

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in

> > Indian Rice mills or

> > > Thai

> > > > > > Rice

> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans

> > blowing away the

> > > lighter

> > > > > > > husks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made

> > from Marine

> > > Coconut

> > > > > > snail

> > > > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5

> > inches thick shell,

> > > (common

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra

> > Indian ocean

> > > coastlines.

> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls

> > are carved with

> > > lines and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller

> > and lightly

> > > agitated

> > > > > > again

> > > > > > > to remove human workings on it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls

> > are boiled in

> > > coconut milk

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the

> > coconut gratings, for

> > > few days.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger

> > for months from the

> > > > > > coconut

> > > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will

> > emit the coconut

> > > milk

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

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Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one anywhere Menon

sacred-objects From: rsbj66Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01 +0000 Re: "Elephant Pearls" - Bhah! Get REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do> > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects but I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell> > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1% who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in the 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "mala_200610"> > <mala_200610@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are there any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > Shaw-Brown"> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ranganath P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:> > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: Re: "Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka"> > > is this Real Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > >> > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email> > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,> > "bala_songyi"> > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near Singapore )> > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,> > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > this thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast iron tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > > > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine> > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in> > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean> > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a> > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and lightly> > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human workings on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> > > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > > ________> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your homepage.> http://www./r/hs> Detailed profiles 4 marriage! 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Dear Sirs,

Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of

Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl,

whale pearl etc etc etc)......

You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical knowledge

as in Gurada Purana......

Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic sense

of thesis in 1864.......

If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-Associate

Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite and

Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all in

these forum)...

No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

interest....

Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1

wrote:

>

> Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani

and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one

anywhere Menon

>

> sacred-objects: rsbj66: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

+0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah! Get

REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

>

> Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams

(if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard--- In

sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh@>

wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi

Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

<rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the

products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do> >

not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects but

I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know

anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real

Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell> >

one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per

gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers

are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1%

who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in the

1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> >

Richard> > > > > > sacred-

objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@> wrote:> >

>> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are there

any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all

must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> >

from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the

hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> > Shaw-

Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are

artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my

research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > >

> >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if

these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > > >

>> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your

time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ranganath

P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > >

> Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:>

> > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls

were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To:

sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > Date:

Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this Real

Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > >>

> > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >

Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> >

International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of Elephant

Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email> >

with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > >

Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,>

> " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >

> > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near Singapore )

> > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,> >

which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites

as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > this

thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast iron

tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten

metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps from

oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> >

required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral

rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > >

> and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > >

The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > >

these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An

agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice amd

Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > > >

Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > >

> > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine> >

> Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick

shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in> >

> > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean> >

> coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a> >

> > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and lightly>

> > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human workings

on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled

pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > >

(as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > >

few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut

willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > >

pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> > >

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YES, PLEASE!!!

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <bala_songyi wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs,

> Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of

> Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl,

> whale pearl etc etc etc)......

>

> You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical knowledge

> as in Gurada Purana......

>

> Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic sense

> of thesis in 1864.......

>

> If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-Associate

> Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite and

> Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all in

> these forum)...

>

> No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> interest....

>

> Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

>

> sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani

> and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one

> anywhere Menon

> >

> > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah! Get

> REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> >

> > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams

> (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard--- In

> sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh@>

> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi

> Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the

> products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do> >

> not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects but

> I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know

> anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real

> Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell> >

> one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per

> gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers

> are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1%

> who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in the

> 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> >

> Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@> wrote:> >

> >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are there

> any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all

> must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> >

> from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the

> hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> > Shaw-

> Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are

> artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my

> research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > >

> > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if

> these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > > >

> >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your

> time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ranganath

> P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > >

> > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:>

> > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls

> were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > >

> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To:

> sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > Date:

> Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this Real

> Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > >>

> > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >

> Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> >

> International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of Elephant

> Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email> >

> with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > >

> Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,>

> > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near Singapore )

> > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,> >

> which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites

> as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > this

> thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast iron

> tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten

> metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps from

> oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> >

> required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral

> rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > >

> > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > >

> The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > >

> these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An

> agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice amd

> Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > > >

> Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

> blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine> >

> > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick

> shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in> >

> > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean> >

> > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a> >

> > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and lightly>

> > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human workings

> on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled

> pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > >

> (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > >

> few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut

> willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > >

> pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> > >

> milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > >

> ________> Get

> easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your

> homepage.> http://www./r/hs>

> >

> > _______________

> > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in

> > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221

> >

>

November 20, 2007

Dear Friends !!!!!

I put forward the option of a paid subscription to Antiquity, if you

scan the entire publications since 1926, you will Demsytify all the

Mysteries.... of Garuda Purana....

Here is the link....(needs subcription)that leads you to the exact

articles /thesis.

Antiquity

question is called The Naja-kallu (which today would be spelled

Naga), and its author, ..... that the Naga-kallu-the self luminous

pebble-is the fons ...

www.antiquity.ac.uk/Ant/020/0113/Ant0200113.pdf -

The second option is to go into Australian Gemologist, (past issues

since 1976) and scan all their publication on the same to

The 3rd option is I will create a pdf of one Prof who travels in

Ceylon in the years 1842 and his direct contact with Nagamanis..

and what he purported them to be and where do these nagamanis real

come from or made from.

Coming Soon Watch our for BMW....

Cheers Hope this info is useful...

BMW Mumbai

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> YES, PLEASE!!!

>

> sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

<bala_songyi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of

> > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl,

> > whale pearl etc etc etc)......

> >

> > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical

knowledge

> > as in Gurada Purana......

> >

> > Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic

sense

> > of thesis in 1864.......

> >

> > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-

Associate

> > Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite

and

> > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all

in

> > these forum)...

> >

> > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> > interest....

> >

> > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

> >

> > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called

nagmani

> > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take

one

> > anywhere Menon

> > >

> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> > +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah! Get

> > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> > >

> > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150

grams

> > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard---

In

> > sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh

<akshay_vignhesh@>

> > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine

Lakshmi

> > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the

> > products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We

do> >

> > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects

but

> > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not

know

> > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real

> > Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would

sell> >

> > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000>

per

> > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers

> > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is

1%

> > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in

the

> > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,>

>

> > Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> > objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@> wrote:>

>

> > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are

there

> > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> >

all

> > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> >

> > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from

the

> > hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> >

Shaw-

> > Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These

are

> > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of

my

> > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> > objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:>

> >

> > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if

> > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> >

> >

> > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>

> >

> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your

> > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >

Ranganath

> > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> >

> >

> > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

wrote:>

> > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant

pearls

> > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon>

> >

> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

To:

> > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > >

Date:

> > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> > objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this Real

> > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > >

>>

> > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >

>

> > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e>

>

> > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of

Elephant

> > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum

email> >

> > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > >

> >

> > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,>

> > > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> >

> >

> > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near

Singapore )

> > > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and

Cheribun,> >

> > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2

websites

> > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > >

this

> > thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > >

> >

> > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast

iron

> > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten

> > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps

from

> > oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> >

> > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or

mineral

> > rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > >

> >

> > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > >

>

> > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and>

> >

> > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> >

An

> > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice

amd

> > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > >

> >

> > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

> > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >>

> >

> > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from

Marine> >

> > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick

> > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > >

in> >

> > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian

ocean> >

> > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > >

a> >

> > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and

lightly>

> > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human

workings

> > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell

tumbled

> > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > >

>

> > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> >

>

> > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut

> > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > >

> >

> > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut>

> >

> > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > >

> > ________> Get

> > easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your

> > homepage.> http://www./r/hs>

> > >

_______________

> > > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in

> > > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221

> > >

> >

>

November 20, 2007

Dear Sir, If you have an e-copy of the same I would be very glad and gratefull if you could mail it across. Best, Jaybala_songyi <bala_songyi wrote: Dear Sirs, Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl, whale pearl etc etc etc)......You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical knowledge as in Gurada

Purana......Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic sense of thesis in 1864.......If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-Associate Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite and Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all in these forum)...No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested interest....Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:>> Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one anywhere Menon> > > sacred-objects: rsbj66: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01 +0000 Re: "Elephant Pearls" - Bhah! Get REAL

Lakshmi Shank instead> > > > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh@> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do> > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects but I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the

real Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell> > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1% who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in the 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "mala_200610"> > <mala_200610@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are there any> > > sites which

sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the hood?> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > Shaw-Brown"> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra>

> > Pearl) or NOT?> > > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ranganath P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:> > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls were man made from> > Elephant

molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: Re: "Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka"> > > is this Real Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > >> > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> >

International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email> > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,> > "bala_songyi"> > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near Singapore )> > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,> >

which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > this thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast iron tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are> > put

into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > > > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine> > > Coconut> > > > > > snail>

> > > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in> > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean> > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a> > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and lightly> > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human workings on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the> >

coconut gratings, for> > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> > > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > > ________> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your homepage.> http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > ________> Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in> http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221>

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November 21, 2007

Dear Forum Members !

Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.

So what the WebGuru has written long ago is true...

Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor used

its venom is fallacy.

Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue 478 ...530-

536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt, Ph.D.

(pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...

cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=abk4014-

0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached

All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking the 3

pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and that

sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore from

our Trust, and my crazy treasure in collecting in the middle of nite

on dried riverbeds in Sri Lanka of that luminious pebble in 1981 as

what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in 2

years after retirement from my position now...

Best Regards from Mumbai

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

<bala_songyi wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs,

> Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of

> Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl,

> whale pearl etc etc etc)......

>

> You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical knowledge

> as in Gurada Purana......

>

> Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic

sense

> of thesis in 1864.......

>

> If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-

Associate

> Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite and

> Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all in

> these forum)...

>

> No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> interest....

>

> Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

>

> sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani

> and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one

> anywhere Menon

> >

> > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah! Get

> REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> >

> > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150

grams

> (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard---

In

> sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh@>

> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi

> Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the

> products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do>

>

> not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects

but

> I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know

> anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real

> Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell>

>

> one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per

> gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers

> are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1%

> who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in

the

> 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> >

> Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@> wrote:> >

> >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are

there

> any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all

> must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> >

> from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from

the

> hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> > Shaw-

> Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are

> artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my

> research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> >

>

> > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if

> these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > >

>

> >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >

>

> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your

> time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >

Ranganath

> P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > >

>

> > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

wrote:>

> > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls

> were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> >

>

> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

To:

> sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > >

Date:

> Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this Real

> Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > >

>>

> > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >

> Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> >

> International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of

Elephant

> Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email>

>

> with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > >

>

> Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,>

> > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > >

>

> > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near

Singapore )

> > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,>

>

> which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites

> as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > >

this

> thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > >

>

> >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast

iron

> tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten

> metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps

from

> oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> >

> required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral

> rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > >

>

> > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > >

> The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> >

>

> these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An

> agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice

amd

> Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > >

>

> Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

> blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> >

>

> > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine>

>

> > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick

> shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in>

>

> > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean>

>

> > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a>

>

> > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and

lightly>

> > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human

workings

> on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled

> pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > >

> (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > >

> few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut

> willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > >

>

> pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> >

>

> milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > >

> ________> Get

> easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your

> homepage.> http://www./r/hs>

> >

> > _______________

> > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in

> > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221

> >

>

November 21, 2007

Dear Bala_Songyi Kudos to you and HAT'S OFF to the Narrator of this Article that you have shown the link to all our Forum Menbers. Link: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=ABK4014-0080-65 I Request if some one has a picture of Nagamani may please post it to this Group I did say initially describe about this on 8th Nov 2007:- "My Great Grand Ma's Story

which she described to my Father as below has come true and she speaks only Practicle and nothing Imaginary" sacred-objects "Ranganath P" <askranga Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by . Learn more Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:31 -0800 (PST) Re: Can nagmani be obtained from only a 100 year old cobra? Dear All, What i have heard is that Snake can live for 1000 yrs. My Father still says that his Grand Mother has seen such a Snake having Nagamani in its Hood From Grand Mothers Visible words "Only very very old snakes can have Mani and thatss what

she has seen it carwls very slowly and spits Nagamani out of its body which emits light from it and from that light Snake will catch its prey and small insects comes near that light so that Snake can have its meal easily then atlast Snake again swallows the Mani again and goes for Safe place Regards Ranga Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Sir, This is all speculation and myth. It is impossible to say for certain about such an obscure object. What we KNOW is from Sri Garuda Puranam, Chap. 69 which doesn't mention about age. Best wishes, Richard --- mala_200610 <mala_200610@ > wrote: > hello sir,if we want to get nagmani can

we only get it from a 100 > year > old cobra or can the cobra be of any age?and its said that the snake > should not have used the venom for 100 years then only the nagmani > will be formed is this true? Regards Ranganath P International Business Partner Askranga bala_songyi <bala_songyi wrote: Dear Forum Members !Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.So what the WebGuru has written long ago is true...Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor used its venom is fallacy.Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue 478 ...530-536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt, Ph.D. (pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=abk4014-0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking the 3 pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and that sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore from our Trust, and my crazy treasure in

collecting in the middle of nite on dried riverbeds in Sri Lanka of that luminious pebble in 1981 as what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in 2 years after retirement from my position now...Best Regards from Mumbaisacred-objects , "bala_songyi" <bala_songyi wrote:>> Dear Sirs, > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl, > whale pearl etc etc etc)......> > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical knowledge > as in Gurada Purana......> > Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic sense > of thesis in 1864.......> > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-Associate > Prof

of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite and > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all in > these forum)...> > > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested > interest....> > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....> > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > wrote:> >> > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called nagmani > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take one > anywhere Menon> > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01 > +0000 Re: "Elephant Pearls" - Bhah! Get > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead> > > > > > > > > > Namaste!!!

Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 grams > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard> sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh <akshay_vignhesh@> > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine Lakshmi > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the > products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We do> > > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects but > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not know > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real >

Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would sell> > > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> per > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is 1% > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in the > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-> objects , "mala_200610"> > <mala_200610@> wrote:> > > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> >

fake?are there > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > all > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> > > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from the > hood?> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > Shaw-> Brown"> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These are > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of my > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-> objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > >

>> > > > > Can someone confirm if > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > > > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ranganath > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:> > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper>

> that was> > > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant pearls > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-> objects] Re: "Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka"> > > is this Real > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala, > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > >> > > >

> > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> > > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of Elephant > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email> > > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,> > > "bala_songyi"> > > > > > <bala_songyi@>

wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near Singapore )> > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun,> > > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > this > thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast iron > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps from

> oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> > > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral > rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > An > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice amd > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > >

> > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> > > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from Marine> > > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian ocean> > > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > bun like hump on one

side which is smaller> > and lightly> > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human workings > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut> > > > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > > >

________> Get > easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your > homepage.> http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in> > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221> >>

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November 21, 2007

Dear Sir

Thank you

I know your Grand Mother narrates The Truth The Whole Truth as I was

reading your reading your post then.

Cobra hunts not only small animals/rodents but eat insects too.

I have seen it too. in that crazy episode of walking in the Dry

Season of April May 1980-81 in Galle area on dried up river bed on 2

moonless nites in wellington boots to seek and verify that german

american prof of Yesteryears...

Good Bless Your Grand Ma's Blessed Soul and the Prof's Blessed Soul

Thank you and wait more mind bogglers on Whales Pearl...

Hugs from Mumbai...

sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga

wrote:

>

> Dear Bala_Songyi

>

> Kudos to you and HAT'S OFF to the Narrator of this Article that

you have shown the link to all our Forum Menbers.

>

> Link: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?

notisid=ABK4014-0080-65

>

> I Request if some one has a picture of Nagamani may please post

it to this Group

>

> I did say initially describe about this on 8th Nov 2007:-

>

> " My Great Grand Ma's Story which she described to my Father as

below has come true and she speaks only Practicle and nothing

Imaginary "

>

> sacred-objects

> " Ranganath P " <askranga Add to Address Book Add

Mobile Alert

> DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by

. Learn more

> Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:31 -0800 (PST)

> Re: Can nagmani be obtained from only

a 100 year old cobra?

>

> Dear All,

>

> What i have heard is that Snake can live for 1000 yrs.

>

> My Father still says that his Grand Mother has seen such a Snake

having Nagamani in its Hood From Grand Mothers Visible words " Only

very very old snakes can have Mani and thatss what she has seen it

carwls very slowly and spits Nagamani out of its body which emits

light from it and from that light Snake will catch its prey and

small insects comes near that light so that Snake can have its meal

easily then atlast Snake again swallows the Mani again and goes for

Safe place

>

> Regards

> Ranga

>

> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> This is all speculation and myth. It is impossible to say for

certain

> about such an obscure object. What we KNOW is from Sri Garuda

Puranam,

> Chap. 69 which doesn't mention about age.

> Best wishes,

> Richard

> --- mala_200610 <mala_200610@ > wrote:

> > hello sir,if we want to get nagmani can we only get it from a

100

> > year

> > old cobra or can the cobra be of any age?and its said that the

snake

> > should not have used the venom for 100 years then only the

nagmani

> > will be formed is this true?

>

> Regards

> Ranganath P

> International Business Partner

> Askranga

>

> bala_songyi <bala_songyi wrote:

> Dear Forum Members !

> Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.

> So what the WebGuru has written long ago is true...

> Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor

used

> its venom is fallacy.

>

> Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue

478 ...530-

> 536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt,

Ph.D.

> (pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...

> cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=abk4014-

> 0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached

>

> All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking the

3

> pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and that

> sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore

from

> our Trust, and my crazy treasure in collecting in the middle of

nite

> on dried riverbeds in Sri Lanka of that luminious pebble in 1981

as

> what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in 2

> years after retirement from my position now...

>

> Best Regards from Mumbai

>

> sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

> <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of

> > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut pearl,

> > whale pearl etc etc etc)......

> >

> > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical

knowledge

> > as in Gurada Purana......

> >

> > Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic

> sense

> > of thesis in 1864.......

> >

> > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-

> Associate

> > Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite

and

> > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at all

in

> > these forum)...

> >

> > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> > interest....

> >

> > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

> >

> > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called

nagmani

> > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take

one

> > anywhere Menon

> > >

> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> > +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah! Get

> > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> > >

> > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150

> grams

> > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard---

> In

> > sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh

<akshay_vignhesh@>

> > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine

Lakshmi

> > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the

> > products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We

do>

> >

> > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects

> but

> > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not

know

> > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the real

> > Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would

sell>

> >

> > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000>

per

> > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers

> > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is

1%

> > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in

> the

> > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,>

>

> > Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> > objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@> wrote:>

>

> > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are

> there

> > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> >

all

> > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> >

> > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from

> the

> > hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> >

Shaw-

> > Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These

are

> > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of

my

> > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> > objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:>

>

> >

> > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if

> > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> >

>

> >

> > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>

>

> >

> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your

> > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >

> Ranganath

> > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> >

>

> >

> > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> wrote:>

> > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant

pearls

> > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon>

>

> >

> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> To:

> > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > >

> Date:

> > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> > objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this Real

> > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > >

> >>

> > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >

>

> > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e>

>

> > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of

> Elephant

> > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum

email>

> >

> > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > > >

>

> >

> > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects ,>

> > > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> >

>

> >

> > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near

> Singapore )

> > > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and

Cheribun,>

> >

> > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2

websites

> > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > >

> this

> > thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > >

>

> >

> > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast

> iron

> > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten

> > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps

> from

> > oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> >

> > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or

mineral

> > rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > >

>

> >

> > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > >

>

> > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and>

>

> >

> > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> >

An

> > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice

> amd

> > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > >

>

> >

> > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

> > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > > >>

>

> >

> > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from

Marine>

> >

> > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick

> > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > >

in>

> >

> > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian

ocean>

> >

> > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > >

a>

> >

> > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and

> lightly>

> > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human

> workings

> > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell

tumbled

> > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > >

>

> > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> >

>

> > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut

> > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > >

>

> >

> > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the coconut>

>

> >

> > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > >

> > ________> Get

> > easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your

> > homepage.> http://www./r/hs>

> > >

> > > ________

> > > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in

> > > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221

> > >

> >

> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your

homepage.

>

November 22, 2007

yes,its true that cobra eats insects occasionally so maybe it uses

the mani's light to catch its prey and many say that nagamani is

formed on cobra's hood only after 100 years or until it gets quite

old and doesnt use its venom for a long time...then the unused venom

turns into nagamani...dont know if this is true.

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

<bala_songyi wrote:

>

> Dear Sir

> Thank you

> I know your Grand Mother narrates The Truth The Whole Truth as I

was

> reading your reading your post then.

> Cobra hunts not only small animals/rodents but eat insects too.

> I have seen it too. in that crazy episode of walking in the Dry

> Season of April May 1980-81 in Galle area on dried up river bed on

2

> moonless nites in wellington boots to seek and verify that german

> american prof of Yesteryears...

> Good Bless Your Grand Ma's Blessed Soul and the Prof's Blessed Soul

>

> Thank you and wait more mind bogglers on Whales Pearl...

> Hugs from Mumbai...

> sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bala_Songyi

> >

> > Kudos to you and HAT'S OFF to the Narrator of this Article

that

> you have shown the link to all our Forum Menbers.

> >

> > Link: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?

> notisid=ABK4014-0080-65

> >

> > I Request if some one has a picture of Nagamani may please

post

> it to this Group

> >

> > I did say initially describe about this on 8th Nov 2007:-

> >

> > " My Great Grand Ma's Story which she described to my Father as

> below has come true and she speaks only Practicle and nothing

> Imaginary "

> >

> > sacred-objects

> > " Ranganath P " <askranga@> Add to Address Book Add

> Mobile Alert

> > DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by

> . Learn more

> > Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:31 -0800 (PST)

> > Re: Can nagmani be obtained from

only

> a 100 year old cobra?

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > What i have heard is that Snake can live for 1000 yrs.

> >

> > My Father still says that his Grand Mother has seen such a

Snake

> having Nagamani in its Hood From Grand Mothers Visible words " Only

> very very old snakes can have Mani and thatss what she has seen it

> carwls very slowly and spits Nagamani out of its body which emits

> light from it and from that light Snake will catch its prey and

> small insects comes near that light so that Snake can have its

meal

> easily then atlast Snake again swallows the Mani again and goes

for

> Safe place

> >

> > Regards

> > Ranga

> >

> > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

> > Dear Sir,

> > This is all speculation and myth. It is impossible to say for

> certain

> > about such an obscure object. What we KNOW is from Sri Garuda

> Puranam,

> > Chap. 69 which doesn't mention about age.

> > Best wishes,

> > Richard

> > --- mala_200610 <mala_200610@ > wrote:

> > > hello sir,if we want to get nagmani can we only get it from

a

> 100

> > > year

> > > old cobra or can the cobra be of any age?and its said that

the

> snake

> > > should not have used the venom for 100 years then only the

> nagmani

> > > will be formed is this true?

> >

> > Regards

> > Ranganath P

> > International Business Partner

> > Askranga@

> >

> > bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > Dear Forum Members !

> > Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.

> > So what the WebGuru has written long ago is true...

> > Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor

> used

> > its venom is fallacy.

> >

> > Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue

> 478 ...530-

> > 536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt,

> Ph.D.

> > (pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...

> > cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=abk4014-

> > 0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached

> >

> > All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking

the

> 3

> > pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and

that

> > sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore

> from

> > our Trust, and my crazy treasure in collecting in the middle of

> nite

> > on dried riverbeds in Sri Lanka of that luminious pebble in 1981

> as

> > what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in

2

> > years after retirement from my position now...

> >

> > Best Regards from Mumbai

> >

> > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

> > <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sirs,

> > > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication

of

> > > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut

pearl,

> > > whale pearl etc etc etc)......

> > >

> > > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical

> knowledge

> > > as in Gurada Purana......

> > >

> > > Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic

> > sense

> > > of thesis in 1864.......

> > >

> > > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-

> > Associate

> > > Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite

> and

> > > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at

all

> in

> > > these forum)...

> > >

> > > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> > > interest....

> > >

> > > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called

> nagmani

> > > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take

> one

> > > anywhere Menon

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> > > +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah!

Get

> > > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> > > >

> > > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150

> > grams

> > > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard-

--

>

> > In

> > > sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh

> <akshay_vignhesh@>

> > > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine

> Lakshmi

> > > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all

the

> > > products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake. We

> do>

> > >

> > > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> >

objects

> > but

> > > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not

> know

> > > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the

real

> > > Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would

> sell>

> > >

> > > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000>

> per

> > > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri

dealers

> > > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> >

is

> 1%

> > > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong

in

> > the

> > > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best

wishes,>

> >

> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> > > objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@>

wrote:>

> >

> > > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are

> > there

> > > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> >

> all

> > > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani>

>

> > > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got

from

> > the

> > > hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> >

> Shaw-

> > > Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These

> are

> > > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of

> my

> > > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> > > objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > >

wrote:>

> >

> > >

> > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm

if

> > > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?>

>

> >

> > >

> > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

>>

> >

> > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for

your

> > > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >

> > Ranganath

> > > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore>

>

> >

> > >

> > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > wrote:>

> > > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant

> pearls

> > > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > >

Menon>

> >

> > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

>

> > To:

> > > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > > >

> > Date:

> > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> > > objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this

Real

> > > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> > >

>

> > >>

> > > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > >

>

> >

> > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist

e>

> >

> > > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of

> > Elephant

> > > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum

> email>

> > >

> > > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-

objects ,>

> > > > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > > >>

>

> >

> > >

> > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near

> > Singapore )

> > > > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and

> Cheribun,>

> > >

> > > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2

> websites

> > > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > >

>

> > this

> > > thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> >

cast

> > iron

> > > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with

tungsten

> > > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps

> > from

> > > oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped>

>

> > > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or

> mineral

> > > rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > >

>

> >

> > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide

and>

> >

> > >

> > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.>

>

> An

> > > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those

Rice

> > amd

> > > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> >

> > > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > >

>>

> >

> > >

> > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from

> Marine>

> > >

> > > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a

thick

> > > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > >

> in>

> > >

> > > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian

> ocean>

> > >

> > > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> > > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > >

> a>

> > >

> > > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and

> > lightly>

> > > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human

> > workings

> > > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell

> tumbled

> > > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > >

>

> >

> > > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for>

>

> >

> > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of

coconut

> > > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the

coconut>

> >

> > >

> > > milk> > > === message truncated ===> > > >

> > > ________>

Get

> > > easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make your

> > > homepage.> http://www./r/hs>

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in

> > > > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your

> homepage.

> >

>

November 22, 2007

Hey Raj

That's TRUE, when it becomes old and old it also gets Hairs on the skin

A Snake can live around 1000 [Thousand] Years.

Regards

Ranganath P

International Business PartnerE-mail : askranga

Raj <raj_maiilsacred-objects Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:08:39 AM Re: "Elephant Pearls" - Bhah! Get REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

yes,its true that cobra eats insects occasionally so maybe it uses the mani's light to catch its prey and many say that nagamani is formed on cobra's hood only after 100 years or until it gets quite old and doesnt use its venom for a long time...then the unused venom turns into nagamani...dont know if this is true.sacred-objects, "bala_songyi" <bala_songyi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sir> Thank you> I know your Grand Mother narrates The Truth The Whole Truth as I was > reading your reading your post then.> Cobra hunts not only small animals/rodents but eat insects too.> I have seen it too. in that crazy episode of walking in the Dry > Season of April May 1980-81 in Galle area on dried up river bed on 2 >

moonless nites in wellington boots to seek and verify that german > american prof of Yesteryears. ..> Good Bless Your Grand Ma's Blessed Soul and the Prof's Blessed Soul> > Thank you and wait more mind bogglers on Whales Pearl...> Hugs from Mumbai...> sacred-objects, Ranganath P <askranga@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Bala_Songyi> > > > Kudos to you and HAT'S OFF to the Narrator of this Article that > you have shown the link to all our Forum Menbers. > > > > Link: http://cdl.library. cornell.edu/ cgi-bin/moa/ sgml/moa- idx?> notisid=ABK4014- 0080-65> > > > I

Request if some one has a picture of Nagamani may please post > it to this Group> > > > I did say initially describe about this on 8th Nov 2007:-> > > > "My Great Grand Ma's Story which she described to my Father as > below has come true and she speaks only Practicle and nothing > Imaginary"> > > > sacred-objects > > "Ranganath P" <askranga@> Add to Address Book Add > Mobile Alert > > DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by > . com. Learn more > > Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:31 -0800 (PST) > > Re: Can nagmani be obtained from only > a 100 year old cobra? > > > > Dear

All,> > > > What i have heard is that Snake can live for 1000 yrs.> > > > My Father still says that his Grand Mother has seen such a Snake > having Nagamani in its Hood From Grand Mothers Visible words "Only > very very old snakes can have Mani and thatss what she has seen it > carwls very slowly and spits Nagamani out of its body which emits > light from it and from that light Snake will catch its prey and > small insects comes near that light so that Snake can have its meal > easily then atlast Snake again swallows the Mani again and goes for > Safe place> > > > Regards> > Ranga> > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > This is all speculation and myth. It is impossible to say for > certain> > about such an obscure object. What we

KNOW is from Sri Garuda > Puranam,> > Chap. 69 which doesn't mention about age.> > Best wishes,> > Richard> > --- mala_200610 <mala_200610@ > wrote:> > > hello sir,if we want to get nagmani can we only get it from a > 100> > > year > > > old cobra or can the cobra be of any age?and its said that the > snake > > > should not have used the venom for 100 years then only the > nagmani > > > will be formed is this true?> > > > > > Regards> > Ranganath P> > International Business Partner> > Askranga@> > > > > > bala_songyi <bala_songyi@ > wrote:> > Dear Forum Members !> > Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.> > So what the WebGuru has written long ago is

true...> > Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor > used > > its venom is fallacy.> > > > Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue > 478 ...530-> > 536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt, > Ph.D. > > (pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...> > cdl.library. cornell.edu/ cgi-bin/moa/ sgml/moa- idx?notisid= abk4014-> > 0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached > > > > All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking the > 3 > > pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and that > > sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore > from > > our Trust, and my crazy treasure in collecting in the middle of > nite > > on dried riverbeds in Sri

Lanka of that luminious pebble in 1981 > as > > what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in 2 > > years after retirement from my position now...> > > > Best Regards from Mumbai> > > > sacred-objects, "bala_songyi" > > <bala_songyi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs, > > > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication of > > > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(includin g Coconut pearl, > > > whale pearl etc etc etc)......> > > > > > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical > knowledge > > > as in Gurada Purana......> > > > >

> Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in Scientifitic > > sense > > > of thesis in 1864.......> > > > > > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-> > Associate > > > Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of Tektite > and > > > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos. ....(not published at all > in > > > these forum)...> > > > > > > > > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested > > > interest....> > > > > > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....> > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called > nagmani > > > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really take > one > > > anywhere Menon> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects@ : rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01 > > > +0000 Re: "Elephant Pearls" - Bhah! Get > > > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about 150 > > grams > > > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s, Richard---> > > In > > > sacred-objects, akshay vignhesh > <akshay_vignhesh@ > > > > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine > Lakshmi > > > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all the > > > products at> > http://www.bezoarmu stikapearls. com are fake. We > do> > > > > > > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> > objects > > but > > > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not > know > > > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the

real > > > Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would > sell> > > > > > > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000> > per > > > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri dealers > > > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> > is > 1% > > > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong in > > the > > > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-> > > objects@ .com, "mala_200610" > > <mala_200610@ >

wrote:> > > > > > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > > > > > http://www.bezoarmu stikapearls. com/cobra. html are> > fake?are > > there > > > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> > > all > > > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the mani> > > > > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got from > > the > > > hood?> > > sacred-objects, "Richard> > > Shaw-> > > Brown"> > > <rsbj66@> wrote:>

> > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These > are > > > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results of > my > > > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-> > > objects@ .com, Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm if > > > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >

> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your > > > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > > > Ranganath > > > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore> > > > > > > > > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > > > > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant > pearls >

> > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > > Menon> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects> > > > > rsbj66@> > > > > > > > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-> > > objects] Re: "Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka"> > > is this Real > > > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala, > > > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution.

Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e> > > > > > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of > > Elephant > > > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum > email> > > > > > > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > http://www.pearls. com/news2/ pp22/elephant. pdf> > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-objects@ .com,> > > > > "bala_songyi" > > > > > > <bala_songyi@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near > > Singapore )> > > > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and > Cheribun,> > > > > > > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 > websites > > > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > this > > >

thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> > cast > > iron > > > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with tungsten > > > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > > scraps > > from > > > oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > > > > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped> > > > > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or > mineral > > > rocks are> > put into these> >

> tupes or> > > > > > tubs> > > > > > > > > > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > > > > > > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide and> > > > > > > > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.> > > An > > > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those Rice > > amd > > > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > > > > > > > > > > > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans> > > > > blowing away the> > > lighter> >

> > > > > husks.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from > Marine> > > > > > > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a thick > > > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian > ocean> > > > > > > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these > > > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > >

> bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and > > lightly> > > > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human > > workings > > > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell > tumbled > > > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for> > > > > > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut > > > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > > > > > > > > > > > pearls and when soaked

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As to the quest of whether the Mani is formed via un-utilised venom

or acquired as suggested in that Hemsholtd article.

I have one on my neck that my great grands have put it as a locket

since young, I cant remember when.... but its harness is about 7 and

moves a diamond reader to 5-6 bars, a mid twenties (1971) experiment

shows its has yttruim and some plutonium traces (activates in weak

manner a geiger counter), it glows brighter in moonless nites....

my work with an australian mine (a short stint), I have seen

similarities of the glow of plutonium (but is later about ten years

this additional knowlege becomes a fact why that mani glows and my

mid twenties experiments are verified of the geiger's weak reaction)

For All the interest of my fellow forumers,

Another juicy detail is Hoshi no tama is equalled to Nagamani,

in a 1946 publication by Riddell (withheld from publication for prior

23 years)

" Hoshi no tama " is the " Self luminious Jewel in Buddha's hand " and

also the " Chintamani stone " once a property of the League of Nations,

in Hague, and was returned (after the collapse of League of Nations)

to Shambala in Tibet by the Russian mystic who formulate the idea to

put the all seeing Eye pyrimid in US$ 1 dollar bill, under Roosevelt.

The Great Grand Ma of Ranga (I think) may have seen the very aged

cobra, and the biological physiology of cobra is to shrink with age

but as the skin becomes shaggy, they tend to jump start (dart forth)

instead of crawling in sudden alertness of danger, but that does not

means the unsed venom is formed into a mani, my real understanding is

they seek/acquire this manis in the dried river beds as they glows in

the dark... who else is worthy to walk/crawl on dried river beds of

Ceylon at nights.

Unless crazed and hippy Lucy in The Sky with Diamonds drug ridden

kids like me then.... in search of ourselves over and over again and

the experiments....and its resultant knowledge....

I will wrtite about Cloud pearls and Timu Pearls as soon as I have

done with my current assignment in India...

Warm Hugs

sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil wrote:

>

> yes,its true that cobra eats insects occasionally so maybe it uses

> the mani's light to catch its prey and many say that nagamani is

> formed on cobra's hood only after 100 years or until it gets quite

> old and doesnt use its venom for a long time...then the unused

venom

> turns into nagamani...dont know if this is true.

> sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

> <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir

> > Thank you

> > I know your Grand Mother narrates The Truth The Whole Truth as I

> was

> > reading your reading your post then.

> > Cobra hunts not only small animals/rodents but eat insects too.

> > I have seen it too. in that crazy episode of walking in the Dry

> > Season of April May 1980-81 in Galle area on dried up river bed

on

> 2

> > moonless nites in wellington boots to seek and verify that german

> > american prof of Yesteryears...

> > Good Bless Your Grand Ma's Blessed Soul and the Prof's Blessed

Soul

> >

> > Thank you and wait more mind bogglers on Whales Pearl...

> > Hugs from Mumbai...

> > sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bala_Songyi

> > >

> > > Kudos to you and HAT'S OFF to the Narrator of this Article

> that

> > you have shown the link to all our Forum Menbers.

> > >

> > > Link: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-

idx?

> > notisid=ABK4014-0080-65

> > >

> > > I Request if some one has a picture of Nagamani may please

> post

> > it to this Group

> > >

> > > I did say initially describe about this on 8th Nov 2007:-

> > >

> > > " My Great Grand Ma's Story which she described to my Father

as

> > below has come true and she speaks only Practicle and nothing

> > Imaginary "

> > >

> > > sacred-objects

> > > " Ranganath P " <askranga@> Add to Address Book Add

> > Mobile Alert

> > > DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by

> > . Learn more

> > > Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:31 -0800 (PST)

> > > Re: Can nagmani be obtained from

> only

> > a 100 year old cobra?

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > What i have heard is that Snake can live for 1000 yrs.

> > >

> > > My Father still says that his Grand Mother has seen such a

> Snake

> > having Nagamani in its Hood From Grand Mothers Visible

words " Only

> > very very old snakes can have Mani and thatss what she has seen

it

> > carwls very slowly and spits Nagamani out of its body which emits

> > light from it and from that light Snake will catch its prey and

> > small insects comes near that light so that Snake can have its

> meal

> > easily then atlast Snake again swallows the Mani again and goes

> for

> > Safe place

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Ranga

> > >

> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

> > > Dear Sir,

> > > This is all speculation and myth. It is impossible to say for

> > certain

> > > about such an obscure object. What we KNOW is from Sri Garuda

> > Puranam,

> > > Chap. 69 which doesn't mention about age.

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Richard

> > > --- mala_200610 <mala_200610@ > wrote:

> > > > hello sir,if we want to get nagmani can we only get it from

> a

> > 100

> > > > year

> > > > old cobra or can the cobra be of any age?and its said that

> the

> > snake

> > > > should not have used the venom for 100 years then only the

> > nagmani

> > > > will be formed is this true?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Ranganath P

> > > International Business Partner

> > > Askranga@

> > >

> > > bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > Dear Forum Members !

> > > Please surf to this page, as its only free publication.

> > > So what the WebGuru has written long ago is true...

> > > Debunking the poison forming in Cobra which has not bitten nor

> > used

> > > its venom is fallacy.

> > >

> > > Title: Harper's new monthly magazine. / Volume 80, Issue

> > 478 ...530-

> > > 536); The Naja-Kallu Or Cobra Stone, by Professor H. Hensoldt,

> > Ph.D.

> > > (pp. 536-540); The Rest Is Silence, by Joseph B. Gilder (pp. ...

> > > cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?

notisid=abk4014-

> > > 0080 & byte=133323464 - 9k - Cached

> > >

> > > All experiences of assessment of what is said herein, checking

> the

> > 3

> > > pieces on my wife's chain, my child's chain and my chain, and

> that

> > > sold on my behalf at Auction by Nanyang Gemology Institue Spore

> > from

> > > our Trust, and my crazy treasure in collecting in the middle of

> > nite

> > > on dried riverbeds in Sri Lanka of that luminious pebble in

1981

> > as

> > > what the cobras do.. hehehe. A book could be written, may be in

> 2

> > > years after retirement from my position now...

> > >

> > > Best Regards from Mumbai

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi "

> > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > Its not so (about Nagamanis) if you have all the publication

> of

> > > > Australian Gemologist since 1976......(including Coconut

> pearl,

> > > > whale pearl etc etc etc)......

> > > >

> > > > You can distinguish the real stuff and all the empirical

> > knowledge

> > > > as in Gurada Purana......

> > > >

> > > > Ask on this forum, I will reveal it as publish in

Scientifitic

> > > sense

> > > > of thesis in 1864.......

> > > >

> > > > If my message is not in this forum I understand as THAT Ex-

> > > Associate

> > > > Prof of Michigan State Univ........ as in that case of

Tektite

> > and

> > > > Osibidan.... of those pictures/photos.....(not published at

> all

> > in

> > > > these forum)...

> > > >

> > > > No offense, I 'm a knowledge monger....with no selling vested

> > > > interest....

> > > >

> > > > Arbaraca as the they in Brasil.....

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats a real practical suggestion. Going after so called

> > nagmani

> > > > and whatnot is interesting and exotic but will not really

take

> > one

> > > > anywhere Menon

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:50:01

> > > > +0000 Re: " Elephant Pearls " - Bhah!

> Get

> > > > REAL Lakshmi Shank instead

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste!!! Mine is small at 40 grams. Full size is about

150

> > > grams

> > > > (if you can afford). Otherwise get a smaller one. Y/s,

Richard-

> --

> >

> > > In

> > > > sacred-objects , akshay vignhesh

> > <akshay_vignhesh@>

> > > > wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > What is the normal weight of genuine

> > Lakshmi

> > > > Shank> > > best regards> Vignhesh> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown

> > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > Dear Sriman,> > > > We cannot say all

> the

> > > > products at> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com are fake.

We

> > do>

> > > >

> > > > not know all their products. I obtained some genuine> >

> objects

> > > but

> > > > I had to search and test. As for Cobra> > nagamani, I do not

> > know

> > > > anyone who is selling the> > REAL thing. Yes, certainly the

> real

> > > > Nagamani has> > great powers. So who is the fool that would

> > sell>

> > > >

> > > > one?> > > > Save your money and get a They cost Rs 3000-9000>

> > per

> > > > gram. And they> > ARE available. Though 99% of valampuri

> dealers

> > > > are> > selling the bogus ones (whelk shells). Still there> >

> is

> > 1%

> > > > who are genuine. Some of the members of this> > group belong

> in

> > > the

> > > > 1% genuine category and can> > supply you.> > > > Best

> wishes,>

> > >

> > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-

> > > > objects , " mala_200610 " > > <mala_200610@>

> wrote:>

> > >

> > > > >> > > Sir,> > > so all the nagamanis on this site> > >

> > > > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html are> > fake?are

> > > there

> > > > any> > > sites which sell real nagamanis?i don't think so,> >

> > all

> > > > must be> > > fake.if a snake dies natural death will the

mani>

> >

> > > > from its head have> > > same shakthi(powers) as the one got

> from

> > > the

> > > > hood?> > > sacred-objects , " Richard> >

> > Shaw-

> > > > Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I THINK NOT! These

> > are

> > > > artificial glass and/or> > stones according to> > > results

of

> > my

> > > > research.> > > > Y/s, Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-

> > > > objects , Ranganath> > P <askranga@>> > >

> wrote:>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > Gentlemen> > > > >> > > > > Can someone confirm

> if

> > > > these are real Naga> > Mani ( King Cobra> > > Pearl) or NOT?>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >> > > > > ---NOT!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

> >>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for

> your

> > > > time> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >

> > > Ranganath

> > > > P> > > > > International Business Partner> > > > > Bangalore>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > Askranga@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> > > wrote:>

> > > > > > > > I am unable to understand. The Paper> > that was> > >

> > > > mentioned here indicates that the> > > > so called elephant

> > pearls

> > > > were man made from> > Elephant molars.> > > > >> > > > >

> Menon>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >

>

> >

> > > To:

> > > > sacred-objects > > > > > rsbj66@> > > >

>

> > > Date:

> > > > Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:20:02 +0000> > > > > Re: [sacred-

> > > > objects] Re: " Elephant> > Pearls of Sri Lanka " > > > is this

> Real

> > > > Naga Mani?> > > > photo included> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > THANKS! That's a GREAT> > contribution. Y/s,> > > Richard> >

>

> >

> > > >>

> > > > > > > > --- bala_songyi <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > >

> >

> > >

> > > > Friends !!!!> > > > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist

> e>

> > >

> > > > International Pearling> > > Journal> > > > > > assesment of

> > > Elephant

> > > > Pearls....> > > > > > Same as those offered by recent forum

> > email>

> > > >

> > > > with beautiful> > > fotos...> > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > > >> > >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards> > > > > > sacred-

> objects ,>

> > > > > " bala_songyi " > > > > > > <bala_songyi@> wrote:> > > > > >

>>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island,> > (Near

> > > Singapore )

> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and

> > Cheribun,>

> > > >

> > > > which manufacture> > > > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2

> > websites

> > > > as> > referred by other> > > members in> > > > > >> > > > > >

> >

> > > this

> > > > thread.....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How are they made ?> >

>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or> >

> cast

> > > iron

> > > > tubs of> > > 12-16> > > > > > > inches are filled with

> tungsten

> > > > metal> > granules and dust> > > (discarded> > > > > > >

scraps

> > > from

> > > > oil drilling industry)into> > these tubes or tubes> > > > > >

> > > > depending> > > > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped>

> >

> > > > required.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The mineral fossils or

> > mineral

> > > > rocks are> > put into these> > > tupes or> > > > > > tubs> >

>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator> > machine.> > > >

>

> >

> > >

> > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to> > 12 feet wide

> and>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > these> > > > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator.>

> >

> > An

> > > > agitator> > > machine is> > > > > > like> > > > > > > those

> Rice

> > > amd

> > > > Husk Sieve machines in> > Indian Rice mills or> > > Thai> > >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Rice> > > > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans>

>

> > > > blowing away the> > > lighter> > > > > > > husks.> > > > > >

> >>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made> > from

> > Marine>

> > > >

> > > > > Coconut> > > > > > snail> > > > > > > shell which has a

> thick

> > > > shell of 3 - 5> > inches thick shell,> > > (common> > > > > >

> > in>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra> > Indian

> > ocean>

> > > >

> > > > > coastlines.> > > > > > > When right size is obtained, these

> > > > pearls> > are carved with> > > lines and> > > > > >> > > > >

>

> > a>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller> > and

> > > lightly>

> > > > > > agitated> > > > > > again> > > > > > > to remove human

> > > workings

> > > > on it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When finalized, the shell

> > tumbled

> > > > pearls> > are boiled in> > > coconut milk> > > > > >> > > > >

> >

> > >

> > > > (as used in curry) but with all the> > coconut gratings, for>

> >

> > >

> > > > few days.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The strong smell of

> coconut

> > > > willl linger> > for months from the> > > > > > coconut> > > >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will> > emit the

> coconut>

> > >

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