Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Alok, my friend, Namaste!!! If we respect the KING then we honor all the civil servants too. Right? Like we pour water on the root of the tree and we nourish all the branches and leaves too. Ishwar parama krishna sat-cit-ananda vigraha anadir-adi govinda sarva-karana-karanam (I know Sri Alok LOVES Govindadev in Jaipur, and so we are god-brothers). Best wishes, Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " a_jagawat " <a_jagawat wrote: > > Too many Gods! > > There are certain things in life which are very simple and yet most > effective. Difficulties will be a common occurrence when things are more > complicated and complex. People who come to me for consultation often > narrate their stories of faith in God and whatever they do to enhance > it. This often includes long tedious recitations of more than one deity. > Their narration includes a common curiosity. The most common question is > the higher level of dedication for God and the meager level of fruits > they have obtained. > > You too may have seen people who worship every God with dedication. You > can find photographs of each and every deity in their homes. And yet the > " Yaksha Prasna " . Why their lives are so miserable? > > To understand it we have to understand prayer itself. A prayer is like > " Avahan " of a deity. When you worship you actually seek the > deity himself or herself. When you seek so many deities you will often > do the mistake of forgetting one. It is almost like giving appointments > to so many people at the same time, and talking to nobody. This is a > complex situation. Now if you compare a " Sardarji " or > " Jain " with Hindus you will see that they are most prosperous > community. (Trust me I am not biased.). > > Please note that it is not their fate. Fate is an easy thing for > believer. You can levy all your problems on it. But logics say that > every person of this community cannot have a good fate. The difference > is simplicity and dedication for One Guruji or Mahaveer Ji. They do not > follow too many Gods. They do not follow mantra or tantra. They are one > of the richest and prosperous communities in India. > > The reason is their simplicity. Frankly I believe that faith in one > deity, (who should be your ishta) can change life. You do not need > mantra or yantra for that. One need, simplest dedication, offering in > form of incense twice a day, and that is it. Prayers are effective, when > they are performed with simplest devotion and dedication. If you believe > that being simple is easy, then I must tell you that being simple is > most difficult. Once you are honest with yourself, once you are strong > with your morals, you will become simple. Simplicity has nothing to do > with the luxuries you are involved in. It is a part of human nature. > Sometimes a man wearing a cargo jeans can be more simple and more > devoted to God, then the priest of a temple. I can narrate you the > simplicity of a man whom I met during my visit to Bangkok. He was highly > simple, down to earth and is very prosperous. He has relatively high > level of devotion for Goddess Radha ji and Shree Krishna. He does not > recite any big mantras, but I believe he is very happy. > He is not a Sadhu clad in some saffron, he is not a mantrik, but he is a > simpleton. His devotion was at par with one of the best sadhus, I have > met. > > So friends, too many cooks spoil the dish and too many Gods > ………….. > > > Alok Jagawat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Dear aloke, while your core issue of simplicity is beautiful, your supporting arguments show total lack of understanding of the entire framework. But that is ok considering that you simply form a part of the majority. I wont give "gay speeches" as to what is wrong with your notions on various fundamental levels, but since I see genuineness in your approach to it, I would leave at suggesting that you would do very well to understand the meanings of what you are talking about. If you do not have the patience, its fine, because your approach of simplicity in itself is very beautiful. Good luck! Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:20:34 AM Re: Too many Gods! Hi Alok, my friend,Namaste!!! If we respect the KING then we honor all the civil servants too. Right? Like we pour water on the root of the tree and we nourish all the branches and leaves too.Ishwar parama krishna sat-cit-ananda vigrahaanadir-adi govinda sarva-karana- karanam(I know Sri Alok LOVES Govindadev in Jaipur, and so we are god-brothers) .Best wishes,Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat@. ..> wrote:>> Too many Gods!> > There are certain things in life which are very simple and yet most> effective. Difficulties will be a common occurrence when things are more> complicated and complex. People who come to me for consultation often> narrate their stories of faith in God and whatever they do to enhance> it. This often includes long tedious recitations of more than one deity.> Their narration includes a common curiosity. The most common question is> the higher level of dedication for God and the meager level of fruits> they have obtained.> > You too may have seen people who worship every God with dedication. You> can find photographs of each and every deity in their homes. And yet the> "Yaksha Prasna". Why their lives are so miserable?> > To understand it we have to understand prayer itself. A prayer is like> "Avahan" of a deity. When you worship you actually seek the> deity himself or herself. When you seek so many deities you will often> do the mistake of forgetting one. It is almost like giving appointments> to so many people at the same time, and talking to nobody. This is a> complex situation. Now if you compare a "Sardarji" or> "Jain" with Hindus you will see that they are most prosperous> community. (Trust me I am not biased.).> > Please note that it is not their fate. Fate is an easy thing for> believer. You can levy all your problems on it. But logics say that> every person of this community cannot have a good fate. The difference> is simplicity and dedication for One Guruji or Mahaveer Ji. They do not> follow too many Gods. They do not follow mantra or tantra. They are one> of the richest and prosperous communities in India.> > The reason is their simplicity. Frankly I believe that faith in one> deity, (who should be your ishta) can change life. You do not need> mantra or yantra for that. One need, simplest dedication, offering in> form of incense twice a day, and that is it. Prayers are effective, when> they are performed with simplest devotion and dedication. If you believe> that being simple is easy, then I must tell you that being simple is> most difficult. Once you are honest with yourself, once you are strong> with your morals, you will become simple. Simplicity has nothing to do> with the luxuries you are involved in. It is a part of human nature.> Sometimes a man wearing a cargo jeans can be more simple and more> devoted to God, then the priest of a temple. I can narrate you the> simplicity of a man whom I met during my visit to Bangkok. He was highly> simple, down to earth and is very prosperous. He has relatively high> level of devotion for Goddess Radha ji and Shree Krishna. He does not> recite any big mantras, but I believe he is very happy.> He is not a Sadhu clad in some saffron, he is not a mantrik, but he is a> simpleton. His devotion was at par with one of the best sadhus, I have> met.> > So friends, too many cooks spoil the dish and too many Gods> …………..> > > Alok Jagawat> Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hello Aloke, Ambanis, Mittals, Birlas,Jindals...hmm.... And besides...what has God to do with your wealth and prosperity? Is the law of karma not relevant at all though a spark of God's grace can burn the burden of your karma to ashes. If you are a thesist because of lust for wealth I would recommend gambling. You might get luckier there. Best, Jay Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 SHASTRA: akama sarvakamova moksha kama udaradih tivrena bhakti yogena yajesa purusham param - If one as no material desires, or if they have all material desires, or even if the most selfish desire for liberation, in all cases one should resort to (ask) the Supreme God through Bhakti Yoga. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote: > > Hello Aloke, > > Ambanis, Mittals, Birlas,Jindals...hmm.... > > And besides...what has God to do with your wealth and prosperity? Is the law of karma not relevant at all though a spark of God's grace can burn the burden of your karma to ashes. > > If you are a thesist because of lust for wealth I would recommend gambling. You might get luckier there. > > Best, > > Jay > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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