Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Richard sir, can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani- http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me that this is a real nagamani please confirm sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 sir,i saw this picture of nagamani on ur site is this just a illustration of nagamani or is it a real photo?is this how a cobra pearl looks like?in this pic have u shown a cobra's nagamani or some other snake pearl?and are any of the following real nagamanis?- sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:>> Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT contribution. Y/s, Richard> > --- bala_songyi bala_songyi wrote:> > > Friends !!!!> > Check out this Australian Gemologist e International Pearling Journal> > assesment of Elephant Pearls....> > Same as those offered by recent forum email with beautiful fotos...> > > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf> > > > Best Regards> > sacred-objects , "bala_songyi" > > bala_songyi@ wrote:> > >> > > There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members in> > > > > this thread.....> > > > > > How are they made ?> > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16 > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes > > depending > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped required.> > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or > > tubs > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.> > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is > > like > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai > > Rice > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter > > > husks. > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut > > snail > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common > > in > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines.> > > When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines and> > > > a > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated > > again > > > to remove human workings on it.> > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut milk> > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few days.> > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the > > coconut > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk > > > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.> > > > > > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut > > > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh > > > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece > > > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and diamonds> > > > > > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and > > > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are > > salt > > > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts...> > > > > > > > > Hope this info is useful> > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Like the "limbo dance" - how LOW can you GO! They have > > MANY "Cloud > > > Pearls" - but if you test with a lab and prove "artifical glass" > > then > > > what is their refund policy?> > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very > > very > > > very common > > > > > http://www.manizone.co.uk/> > > > >> > > > > Best Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Jay> > > > >> > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > I AGREE!!!> > > > >> > > > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth > > > perpetrated by the> > > > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till> > > > > after he realises he was> > > > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under > > what > > > law is it banned?> > > > > Menon> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 > > > +0000[sacred-> > > > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga > > > mani"? Is Nagamani> > > > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-> > > objects , Ranganath P> > > > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold > > in > > > Public, > Since it> > > > has> > > > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the> > > > > items which are Sale> > > > May> > > > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International> > > > > Business Partner>> > > > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are > > > glass. Why not get> > > > the> > > > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known > > > stones, or any other ID? You> > > > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even> > > > > with normal stones, what> > > > to> > > > > speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot > > > sell it (except to an idiot).> > > > Y/> > > > > s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" > > > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>> > > > >> > > > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > > > > > > nagamanis of different> > > > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they > > fake > > > too?http://> > > > > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg > > > http://> > > > i7.tinypic.com/> > > > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but > > > cant believe them at >> > > > >> > > > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult > > to > > > find> > sacred-> > > > > objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> > > > wrote:> > >> > >> > > > Sir,> > > > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It >> > > > > > > > is artificial glass. Y/s,> > > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj"> > > > > <raj_maiil@>> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me > > > whether this is a real> > > > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > > > there > > > are lots of fake> > > > > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is > > a > > > real nagamani> > > > please> > > > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > Do You > > ?> > > > Tired of spam?> > > > > Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ________> > > > > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so > > new > > > they haven't even> > > > > been officially released yet.> > > > > > http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > > > Mail. See how.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 It is hard to say from a photograph. And many kinds of snakes besides cobra have " mani " and many died million years ago and became fossilized. If modern science cannot ID an object then it just may be real. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " mala_200610 " <mala_200610 wrote: > > > sir,i saw this picture of nagamani on ur site > > [The image " http://i8.tinypic.com/85dxbf6.jpg " cannot be > displayed, because it contains errors.] > > is this just a illustration of nagamani or is it a real photo?is this > how a cobra pearl looks like?in this pic have u shown a cobra's nagamani > or some other snake pearl?and are any of the following real nagamanis?- > [http://i4.tinypic.com/865axjk.jpj] > [http://i6.tinypic.com/6p6pw0k.jpg] [http://i9.tinypic.com/6yxwj5x.jpg] > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bala, THANKS! That's a GREAT contribution. Y/s, Richard > > > > --- bala_songyi bala_songyi@ wrote: > > > > > Friends !!!! > > > Check out this Australian Gemologist e International Pearling > Journal > > > assesment of Elephant Pearls.... > > > Same as those offered by recent forum email with beautiful fotos... > > > > > > http://www.pearls.com/news2/pp22/elephant.pdf > > > > > > Best Regards > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " > > > bala_songyi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and > > > > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture > > > > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members > in > > > > > > > this thread..... > > > > > > > > How are they made ? > > > > > > > > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16 > > > > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded > > > > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes > > > depending > > > > on ball shape required or egg shapped required. > > > > > > > > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or > > > tubs > > > > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine. > > > > The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these > > > > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is > > > like > > > > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai > > > Rice > > > > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter > > > > husks. > > > > > > > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut > > > snail > > > > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common > > > in > > > > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines. > > > > When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines > and > > > > > > a > > > > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated > > > again > > > > to remove human workings on it. > > > > > > > > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut > milk > > > > > > > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few > days. > > > > > > > > The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the > > > coconut > > > > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk > > > > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done. > > > > > > > > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut > > > > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh > > > > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece > > > > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and > diamonds > > > > > > > > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and > > > > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are > > > salt > > > > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this info is useful > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Like the " limbo dance " - how LOW can you GO! They have > > > MANY " Cloud > > > > Pearls " - but if you test with a lab and prove " artifical glass " > > > then > > > > what is their refund policy? > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very > > > very > > > > very common > > > > > > http://www.manizone.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > I AGREE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth > > > > perpetrated by the > > > > > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it > till > > > > > > > after he realises he was > > > > > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under > > > what > > > > law is it banned? > > > > > > Menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 > > > > +0000[sacred- > > > > > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga > > > > mani " ? Is Nagamani > > > > > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred- > > > > objects , Ranganath P > > > > > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold > > > in > > > > Public, > Since it > > > > > has > > > > > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that > the > > > > > > > items which are Sale > > > > > May > > > > > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> > International > > > > > > > Business Partner> > > > > > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are > > > > glass. Why not get > > > > > the > > > > > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known > > > > stones, or any other ID? You > > > > > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true > even > > > > > > > with normal stones, what > > > > > to > > > > > > speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot > > > > sell it (except to an idiot). > > > > > Y/ > > > > > > s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " Raj " > > > > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > > > > > > > > nagamanis of different > > > > > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they > > > fake > > > > too?http:// > > > > > > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > > > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg > > > > http:// > > > > > i7.tinypic.com/ > > > > > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but > > > > cant believe them at > > > > > > > > > > > > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult > > > to > > > > find> > sacred- > > > > > > objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> > > > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > > > > > > > > > > > > is artificial glass. Y/s, > > > > > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , > " Raj " > > > > > > > <raj_maiil@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me > > > > whether this is a real > > > > > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > > > > there > > > > are lots of fake > > > > > > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is > > > a > > > > real nagamani > > > > > please > > > > > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You > > > ? > > > > > Tired of spam? > > > > > > Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live > Ideas—so > > > new > > > > they haven't even > > > > > > been officially released yet. > > > > > > > http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > > > > Mail. See how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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