what happens to the MANI (in India)?

November 8, 2007

This is kind of like Symantaka gem: Surya gives mani to Satrajit. His brother,

Prasena borrows the mani, goes hunting, gets killed by a lion who takes mani.

Lion gets killed by bear (Jambhavan) who takes mani, gives to child. Krishna

gets blamed. Krishna fights Jambhavan, wins. Jambhavan gives mani to Krishna.

Krishna returns mani to Satrajit. He tries to give mani to Krishna, Who refuses.

Then Satrajit gets murdered, mani stolen. Akrura knows who did it. Krishna kills

killer of Satrajit... but, WHAT becomes of mani?

Y/s,

Richard

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill hunter, get

mani, police

kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen by police,

sold to

hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if

> > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on

> > wild life laws but poaching is a crime and the king

> > cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian

> > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in

> > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock

> > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives

> > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However

> > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by

> > the terrorists who control these forests.

> >

> > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record

> > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he

> > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol.

> >

> > best regards,

> >

> > Jay

> > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in

> > > India who is faced with a life and death meeting

> > > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the

> > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he

> > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get?

> > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year.

> > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " Richard

> > > Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jay,

> > > >

> > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a

> > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or

> > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is

> > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed

> > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal

> > > killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007

> > > like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James

> > > Cobra! "

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Richard

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi

> > > <jaymunshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime:

> > > > >

> > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake

> > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the

> > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most

> > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single

> > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other

> > > cobras, N. naja is famous for its

> > > threat

> > > > display involving raising the front part of its

> > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is

> > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is

> > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is

> > > now

> > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife

> > > Protection Act (1972).

> > > > >

> > > > > For more details refer to:

> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra

> > > > >

> > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic

> > > bondage that is for sure.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of

> > > the law as the unicorns horn

> > > > >

> > > > > Best,

> > > > >

> > > > > Jay

> > > > >

> > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sriman,

> > > > >

> > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever

> > > killed nor can kill another. Because the

> > > soul

> > > > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya

> > > it takes on bodies, one after another,

> > > in

> > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low

> > > sinners are born as envious and

> > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a

> > > snake long before reaching human life

> > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of

> > > material body types (4 lakhs of which

> > > > are human types).

> > > > >

> > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes

> > > nor any law against owning a

> > > Nagamani.

> > > > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies

> > > to bogus " nagamanis. "

> > > > >

> > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is

> > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came

> > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your

> > > children. From a snake's death the soul is

> > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's

> > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately

> > > > leading to liberation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this answers your question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Richard

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects ,

> > > " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please

> > > tell me what happens to

> > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI

> > > from its hood.Does it

> > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it

> > > be under the bad

> > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA).

> > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a

> > > snake and then take the

> > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to

> > > own the MANI?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " .

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > > protection around

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 8, 2007

Dear All King Cobra is considered as Naga Devatha [God of Snakes], It has its own Space / Place called NagaLoka where it does its Kingship. Its a serious crime [DOSHA] if one kills or helps in killing or informs to killing or sees the killed Naga [King Cobra etc] and such person entitles NagaDosha or SarpaDosha , Kalasarpa Dosha.etc... If any one has falls into above criteria who has done/informed/participated knowingly or unknowingly can beg Lord Subramanya [ God of Naga's] to forgive such Sins / Doshas. The only way to clear from such Sin / Doshas is to Visit Shri Lord Subramanya Swamy Temple situated in Subramanya near Mangalore / Puttur which is in Karnataka, from Bangalore it is around 360 - 380 Kms. Get an appointment for getting cleared from such doshas from temple authorities 15 days in advance. it is a 2 to 3 days

Pooja. May Lord Subramanya bless you and your family Prosperous and Happly living in this world. From Purana: [story that i have read] Even Lord Parashurama a Saint who is being narrated as 6th in Dashavatara got Parihara [Nullified] from his Sin / Dosha from killing his own Mother by visiting this place. Who took bath in the holy river and got Darshan of Shri Lord Subramanya Swamy. From Local News Papers Recently even Master Blaster Sachin Tendulkar had visited this Temple for Nullifying from such Doshas. From Me Even i have visited recently and got parihara from such sins which could have happened knowingly or unknowling. Please go along with your entire family. May God Bless You and Your Family, Happy Deepavali Regards Ranganath Bangalore Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: This is kind of like Symantaka gem: Surya gives mani to Satrajit. His brother, Prasena borrows the mani, goes hunting, gets killed by a lion who takes mani. Lion gets killed by bear (Jambhavan) who takes mani, gives to child. Krishna gets blamed. Krishna fights Jambhavan, wins. Jambhavan gives mani to Krishna. Krishna returns mani to Satrajit. He tries to give mani to Krishna, Who refuses. Then Satrajit gets

murdered, mani stolen. Akrura knows who did it. Krishna kills killer of Satrajit... but, WHAT becomes of mani?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:>> Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill hunter, get mani, police kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen by police, sold to hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if> > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on> > wild life laws but poaching is a crime and the king> > cobra

and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian> > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in> > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock> > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives> > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However> > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by> > the terrorists who control these forests.> >> > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record> > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he> > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol.> >> > best regards,> >> > Jay> > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in> > > India who is faced with a life and death meeting> > > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If

the> > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he> > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get?> > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year.> > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard> > >> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > > Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jay,> > > >> > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a> > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or> > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is> > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed> > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are "legal> > > killers." I guess that makes a cobra 007> > > like James Bond. "Hello, the name is

Cobra, James> > > Cobra!"> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi> > > <jaymunshi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake> > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the> > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most> > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single> > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other> > > cobras, N. naja is famous for its> > > threat> > > > display

involving raising the front part of its> > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is> > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is> > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is> > > now> > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife> > > Protection Act (1972).> > > > >> > > > > For more details refer to:> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra> > > > >> > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic> > > bondage that is for sure.> > > > >> > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of> > > the law as the unicorns horn > > > > >> > > > > Best,> > > > >> > > >

> Jay> > > > >> > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > >> > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, "No one is ever> > > killed nor can kill another. Because the> > > soul> > > > is eternal, "aja" unborn. When the soul is in Maya> > > it takes on bodies, one after another,> > > in> > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low> > > sinners are born as envious and> > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a> > > snake long before reaching human life> > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of> > > material body types (4 lakhs of which> > > > are human types).> > > > >> > > > > Besides, there is no law

against killing snakes> > > nor any law against owning a> > > Nagamani.> > > > BUT, there is a law called "FRAUD" which applies> > > to bogus "nagamanis."> > > > >> > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is> > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came> > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your> > > children. From a snake's death the soul is> > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's> > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately> > > > leading to liberation.> > > > >> > > > > Hope this answers your question.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Richard> > > > >> > > > > sacred-objects ,> > > "N.R.Anirudha" <anigopierao@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please> > > tell me what happens to> > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI> > > from its hood.Does it> > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it> > > be under the bad> > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA).> > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a> > > snake and then take the> > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to> > > own the MANI?> > > > > >> > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS "GURU RICHARDJI".> > > > >

>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > > protection around> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >

>>

November 8, 2007

Second Moral of the story: Mani sounds like trouble Best, Jay Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: This is kind of like Symantaka gem: Surya gives mani to Satrajit. His brother, Prasena borrows the mani, goes hunting, gets killed by a lion who takes mani. Lion gets killed by bear (Jambhavan) who takes mani, gives to child. Krishna gets blamed. Krishna fights Jambhavan, wins. Jambhavan gives mani to Krishna. Krishna returns mani to Satrajit. He tries to give

mani to Krishna, Who refuses. Then Satrajit gets murdered, mani stolen. Akrura knows who did it. Krishna kills killer of Satrajit... but, WHAT becomes of mani?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:>> Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill hunter, get mani, police kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen by police, sold to hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if> > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on> > wild life laws but

poaching is a crime and the king> > cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian> > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in> > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock> > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives> > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However> > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by> > the terrorists who control these forests.> >> > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record> > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he> > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol.> >> > best regards,> >> > Jay> > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in> > > India who is faced with a life and death meeting> >

> with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the> > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he> > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get?> > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year.> > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard> > >> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > > Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jay,> > > >> > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a> > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or> > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is> > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed> > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are "legal> > > killers." I guess that makes a cobra 007>

> > like James Bond. "Hello, the name is Cobra, James> > > Cobra!"> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi> > > <jaymunshi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake> > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the> > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most> > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single> > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other> > > cobras, N. naja is famous for its>

> > threat> > > > display involving raising the front part of its> > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is> > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is> > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is> > > now> > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife> > > Protection Act (1972).> > > > >> > > > > For more details refer to:> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra> > > > >> > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic> > > bondage that is for sure.> > > > >> > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of> > > the law as the unicorns horn > > > > >> > > > >

Best,> > > > >> > > > > Jay> > > > >> > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > >> > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, "No one is ever> > > killed nor can kill another. Because the> > > soul> > > > is eternal, "aja" unborn. When the soul is in Maya> > > it takes on bodies, one after another,> > > in> > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low> > > sinners are born as envious and> > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a> > > snake long before reaching human life> > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of> > > material body types (4 lakhs of which> > > > are human types).> > > >

>> > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes> > > nor any law against owning a> > > Nagamani.> > > > BUT, there is a law called "FRAUD" which applies> > > to bogus "nagamanis."> > > > >> > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is> > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came> > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your> > > children. From a snake's death the soul is> > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's> > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately> > > > leading to liberation.> > > > >> > > > > Hope this answers your question.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Richard> > > > >> > > > > ---

In sacred-objects ,> > > "N.R.Anirudha" <anigopierao@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please> > > tell me what happens to> > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI> > > from its hood.Does it> > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it> > > be under the bad> > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA).> > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a> > > snake and then take the> > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to> > > own the MANI?> > > > > >> > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS "GURU RICHARDJI".> > > >

> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > > protection around> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >

>>

November 8, 2007

lol so this leaves us confused whether mani bring good fortune or trouble?

--Haha, Mani give good fortune, snake give trouble.

sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote:

>

> Second Moral of the story: Mani sounds like trouble

>

> Best,

>

> Jay

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> This is kind of like Symantaka gem: Surya gives mani to

Satrajit. His brother, Prasena borrows the mani, goes hunting, gets

killed by a lion who takes mani. Lion gets killed by bear (Jambhavan)

who takes mani, gives to child. Krishna gets blamed. Krishna fights

Jambhavan, wins. Jambhavan gives mani to Krishna. Krishna returns mani

to Satrajit. He tries to give mani to Krishna, Who refuses. Then

Satrajit gets murdered, mani stolen. Akrura knows who did it. Krishna

kills killer of Satrajit... but, WHAT becomes of mani?

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

<rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill

hunter, get mani, police

> kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen

by police, sold to

> hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if

> > > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on

> > > wild life laws but poaching is a crime and the king

> > > cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian

> > > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in

> > > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock

> > > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives

> > > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However

> > > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by

> > > the terrorists who control these forests.

> > >

> > > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record

> > > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he

> > > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol.

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > >

> > > Jay

> > > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in

> > > > India who is faced with a life and death meeting

> > > > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the

> > > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he

> > > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get?

> > > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year.

> > > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects , " Richard

> > > > Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jay,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a

> > > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or

> > > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is

> > > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed

> > > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal

> > > > killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007

> > > > like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James

> > > > Cobra! "

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Richard

> > > > >

> > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi

> > > > <jaymunshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake

> > > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the

> > > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most

> > > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single

> > > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other

> > > > cobras, N. naja is famous for its

> > > > threat

> > > > > display involving raising the front part of its

> > > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is

> > > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is

> > > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is

> > > > now

> > > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife

> > > > Protection Act (1972).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For more details refer to:

> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic

> > > > bondage that is for sure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of

> > > > the law as the unicorns horn

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jay

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sriman,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever

> > > > killed nor can kill another. Because the

> > > > soul

> > > > > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya

> > > > it takes on bodies, one after another,

> > > > in

> > > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low

> > > > sinners are born as envious and

> > > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a

> > > > snake long before reaching human life

> > > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of

> > > > material body types (4 lakhs of which

> > > > > are human types).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes

> > > > nor any law against owning a

> > > > Nagamani.

> > > > > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies

> > > > to bogus " nagamanis. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is

> > > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came

> > > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your

> > > > children. From a snake's death the soul is

> > > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's

> > > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately

> > > > > leading to liberation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this answers your question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Richard

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sacred-objects ,

> > > > " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please

> > > > tell me what happens to

> > > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI

> > > > from its hood.Does it

> > > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it

> > > > be under the bad

> > > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA).

> > > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a

> > > > snake and then take the

> > > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to

> > > > own the MANI?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

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November 8, 2007

Dear Sriman Ranganath, OR, one can worship some saligram silas that pacify Kala Sarpa Dosha such as Ananta Shesha Saligram, OR one can chant the Vishnu Sahasranama which pacifies all 9 planets; OR, one can chant the Lalitha Sahasranama (given by Lord Hayagreeva to Agastya Muni) which gives relief from many such sins including undone obligatory rituals; OR, one can chant the Gayatri mantra which is also known to give relief from undone obligatory rites and various doshas (that's why it is to be done at every sandhya - thereby in effect covering one's self from known and unknown sins done during the course of the day). The list can go on and on. But, as you have said, the propitiation of Lord Subramaniam Swami (Lord Kartikkeya) is by far the most common for remedial measure for Kala Sarpa Dosha. Ranganath P <askranga wrote: Dear All King Cobra is considered as Naga Devatha [God of Snakes], It has its own Space / Place called NagaLoka where it does its Kingship. Its a serious crime [DOSHA] if one kills or helps in killing or informs to killing or sees the killed Naga [King Cobra etc] and such person entitles NagaDosha or SarpaDosha , Kalasarpa Dosha.etc... If any one has falls into above criteria who has done/informed/participated knowingly or unknowingly can beg Lord Subramanya [ God of Naga's] to forgive

such Sins / Doshas. The only way to clear from such Sin / Doshas is to Visit Shri Lord Subramanya Swamy Temple situated in Subramanya near Mangalore / Puttur which is in Karnataka, from Bangalore it is around 360 - 380 Kms. Get an appointment for getting cleared from such doshas from temple authorities 15 days in advance. it is a 2 to 3 days Pooja. May Lord Subramanya bless you and your family Prosperous and Happly living in this world. From Purana: [story that i have read] Even Lord Parashurama a Saint who is being narrated as 6th in Dashavatara got Parihara [Nullified] from his Sin / Dosha from killing his own Mother by visiting this place. Who took bath in the holy river and got Darshan of Shri Lord Subramanya Swamy. From Local News Papers Recently even Master Blaster Sachin Tendulkar had visited this Temple for

Nullifying from such Doshas. From Me Even i have visited recently and got parihara from such sins which could have happened knowingly or unknowling. Please go along with your entire family. May God Bless You and Your Family, Happy Deepavali Regards Ranganath Bangalore Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: This is kind of like Symantaka gem: Surya gives mani to Satrajit. His brother, Prasena borrows the mani, goes hunting, gets killed by a lion who takes mani. Lion gets killed by bear (Jambhavan) who takes mani, gives to child. Krishna gets blamed. Krishna fights Jambhavan, wins. Jambhavan gives mani to Krishna. Krishna returns mani to Satrajit. He

tries to give mani to Krishna, Who refuses. Then Satrajit gets murdered, mani stolen. Akrura knows who did it. Krishna kills killer of Satrajit... but, WHAT becomes of mani?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:>> Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill hunter, get mani, police kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen by police, sold to hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if> > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on> > wild

life laws but poaching is a crime and the king> > cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian> > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in> > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock> > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives> > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However> > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by> > the terrorists who control these forests.> >> > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record> > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he> > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol.> >> > best regards,> >> > Jay> > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in> > > India who is faced with a life and death

meeting> > > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the> > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he> > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get?> > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year.> > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard> > >> > > sacred-objects , "Richard> > > Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jay,> > > >> > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a> > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or> > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is> > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed> > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are "legal> > > killers." I guess that

makes a cobra 007> > > like James Bond. "Hello, the name is Cobra, James> > > Cobra!"> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Richard> > > >> > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi> > > <jaymunshi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake> > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the> > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most> > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single> > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other> > > cobras, N. naja is

famous for its> > > threat> > > > display involving raising the front part of its> > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is> > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is> > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is> > > now> > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife> > > Protection Act (1972).> > > > >> > > > > For more details refer to:> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra> > > > >> > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic> > > bondage that is for sure.> > > > >> > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of> > > the law as the unicorns horn > > > > >> >

> > > Best,> > > > >> > > > > Jay> > > > >> > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > >> > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, "No one is ever> > > killed nor can kill another. Because the> > > soul> > > > is eternal, "aja" unborn. When the soul is in Maya> > > it takes on bodies, one after another,> > > in> > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low> > > sinners are born as envious and> > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a> > > snake long before reaching human life> > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of> > > material body types (4 lakhs of which> > > > are human types).>

> > > >> > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes> > > nor any law against owning a> > > Nagamani.> > > > BUT, there is a law called "FRAUD" which applies> > > to bogus "nagamanis."> > > > >> > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is> > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came> > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your> > > children. From a snake's death the soul is> > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's> > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately> > > > leading to liberation.> > > > >> > > > > Hope this answers your question.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Richard> > > > >> > >

> > sacred-objects ,> > > "N.R.Anirudha" <anigopierao@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please> > > tell me what happens to> > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI> > > from its hood.Does it> > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it> > > be under the bad> > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA).> > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a> > > snake and then take the> > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to> > > own the MANI?> > > > > >> > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS "GURU RICHARDJI".>

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