Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in India who is faced with a life and death meeting with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get? Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year. Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Jay, > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is going to bite you? Are you not allowed to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007 like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James Cobra! " > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime: > > > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the > most famous of the Big Four, the four most poisonous snakes of India for which a single > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other cobras, N. naja is famous for its threat > display involving raising the front part of its body and spreading its hood. This snake is > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is often seen with snake-charmers. It is now > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife Protection Act (1972). > > > > For more details refer to: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic bondage that is for sure. > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of the law as the unicorns horn > > > > Best, > > > > Jay > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > Dear Sriman, > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever killed nor can kill another. Because the soul > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya it takes on bodies, one after another, in > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low sinners are born as envious and > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a snake long before reaching human life > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of material body types (4 lakhs of which > are human types). > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes nor any law against owning a Nagamani. > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies to bogus " nagamanis. " > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is pretty hard to prove, even if it came > from a dead snake that could have bitten your children. From a snake's death the soul is > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately > leading to liberation. > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote: > > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please tell me what happens to > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI from its hood.Does it > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it be under the bad > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA). > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a snake and then take the > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to own the MANI? > > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 i agree Richard sir,as long a person kills a cobra for self defence its completely fine.in many parts of india people kill cobras and various other types of snakes when they are a threat to mankind.what if a cobra appears in front of our house...we will definitely kill it immediately and its no crime.but if you kill a snake for other motives like getting nagamani etc maybe its a crime but 1000s of snakes are killed in india no one even enquires about it. sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in India who is faced with a life and death meeting with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get? Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year. Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is going to bite you? Are you not allowed > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007 > like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James Cobra! " > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime: > > > > > > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most poisonous snakes of India for which a single > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other cobras, N. naja is famous for its > threat > > display involving raising the front part of its body and spreading its hood. This snake is > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is often seen with snake-charmers. It is > now > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife Protection Act (1972). > > > > > > For more details refer to: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra > > > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic bondage that is for sure. > > > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of the law as the unicorns horn > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > Dear Sriman, > > > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever killed nor can kill another. Because the > soul > > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya it takes on bodies, one after another, > in > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low sinners are born as envious and > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a snake long before reaching human life > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of material body types (4 lakhs of which > > are human types). > > > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes nor any law against owning a > Nagamani. > > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies to bogus " nagamanis. " > > > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is pretty hard to prove, even if it came > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your children. From a snake's death the soul is > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately > > leading to liberation. > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please tell me what happens to > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI from its hood.Does it > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it be under the bad > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA). > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a snake and then take the > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to own the MANI? > > > > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Dear Sir, killing in self defense is never a crime what even if you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on wild life laws but poaching is a crime and the king cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by the terrorists who control these forests. yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol. best regards, Jay --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in > India who is faced with a life and death meeting > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get? > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year. > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects , " Richard > Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is > going to bite you? Are you not allowed > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal > killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007 > like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James > Cobra! " > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi > <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime: > > > > > > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most > poisonous snakes of India for which a single > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other > cobras, N. naja is famous for its > threat > > display involving raising the front part of its > body and spreading its hood. This snake is > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is > often seen with snake-charmers. It is > now > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife > Protection Act (1972). > > > > > > For more details refer to: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra > > > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic > bondage that is for sure. > > > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of > the law as the unicorns horn > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > Dear Sriman, > > > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever > killed nor can kill another. Because the > soul > > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya > it takes on bodies, one after another, > in > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low > sinners are born as envious and > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a > snake long before reaching human life > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of > material body types (4 lakhs of which > > are human types). > > > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes > nor any law against owning a > Nagamani. > > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies > to bogus " nagamanis. " > > > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is > pretty hard to prove, even if it came > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your > children. From a snake's death the soul is > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately > > leading to liberation. > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , > " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please > tell me what happens to > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI > from its hood.Does it > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it > be under the bad > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA). > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a > snake and then take the > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to > own the MANI? > > > > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Crime scene: Indian hunter kills cobra, gets mani. Terrorists kill hunter, get mani, police kill terrorists, get mani. Mani goes into evidence room, gets stolen by police, sold to hunter. Moral: If you want a Nagamani, ask police. Hehe! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > killing in self defense is never a crime what even if > you kill a human. I am not a lawyer or an expert on > wild life laws but poaching is a crime and the king > cobra and the spectacled cobra are protected by Indian > laws like various other species. Hunting is banned in > india as in you cant even shoot a common blue rock > pigeon except for the state of J & K which still gives > hunting licenses during non breeding seasons. However > if one were to go hunting there one would be hunted by > the terrorists who control these forests. > > yes unfortunately indian cops dont have a good record > in public eye but if one is caught killing a cobra he > atleast will have to bribe a cop. Lol. > > best regards, > > Jay > --- Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > I was just thinking about some unfortunate person in > > India who is faced with a life and death meeting > > with a cobra. He is in a no-win situation. If the > > cobra bites him, he dies. If he kills the cobra he > > goes to jail. Jeez!!! How crazy does it get? > > Thousands of cobras are killed in India every year. > > Better build bigger jails. Y/s, Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard > > Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > > Wow!!! Amazing! Live and learn! I wonder if a > > cobra killing a human is also a crime? Or > > are cobras exempt from the law? What if a cobra is > > going to bite you? Are you not allowed > > to defend yourself? It sounds like cobras are " legal > > killers. " I guess that makes a cobra 007 > > like James Bond. " Hello, the name is Cobra, James > > Cobra! " > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi > > <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > In India killing a cobra is crime: > > > > > > > > > > > > Naja naja is a species of venomous snake > > native to the Indian subcontinent. It is the > > > most famous of the Big Four, the four most > > poisonous snakes of India for which a single > > > polyvalent antivenom has been created. Like other > > cobras, N. naja is famous for its > > threat > > > display involving raising the front part of its > > body and spreading its hood. This snake is > > > revered in Indian mythology and culture and is > > often seen with snake-charmers. It is > > now > > > protected in India under the 1972 Indian Wildlife > > Protection Act (1972). > > > > > > > > For more details refer to: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Cobra > > > > > > > > and killing any animal will cause karmic > > bondage that is for sure. > > > > > > > > Nagmani might be just as much in purview of > > the law as the unicorns horn > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sriman, > > > > > > > > As Lord Krishna told Arjuna, " No one is ever > > killed nor can kill another. Because the > > soul > > > is eternal, " aja " unborn. When the soul is in Maya > > it takes on bodies, one after another, > > in > > > accordence with it's karma and nature. Extreme low > > sinners are born as envious and > > > vicious snakes. Even I have been in the body of a > > snake long before reaching human life > > > forms, like now. After passing through 84 lakhs of > > material body types (4 lakhs of which > > > are human types). > > > > > > > > Besides, there is no law against killing snakes > > nor any law against owning a > > Nagamani. > > > BUT, there is a law called " FRAUD " which applies > > to bogus " nagamanis. " > > > > > > > > As there is no known test for Nagamani so it is > > pretty hard to prove, even if it came > > > from a dead snake that could have bitten your > > children. From a snake's death the soul is > > > elevated to a higher life form, and continues it's > > journey on Sansar chakra, ultimately > > > leading to liberation. > > > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , > > " N.R.Anirudha " <anigopierao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As i am new to this group, can anyone please > > tell me what happens to > > > > > the snake after anyone takes out the NAGAMANI > > from its hood.Does it > > > > > dies? If so ,then won't the person who owns it > > be under the bad > > > > > influence of NAGA( called as NAGADOSHA). > > > > > I also want to know whether one has to kill a > > snake and then take the > > > > > NAGAMANI from it. If so isn't it illegal to > > own the MANI? > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE CLARIFY MY DOUBTS " GURU RICHARDJI " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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