Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Richard, Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise any of their products in this group. This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of the group. He along with his other alias be banned outright. Sincerely, Varun Trivedi sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in doing > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is > selling. > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what is jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have a bad stone. Comments welcome Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise any > of their products in this group. > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > the group. > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > Sincerely, > > Varun Trivedi > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > wrote: > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in doing > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is > > selling. > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Hello, I suggest that offers be made only with supporting photographs (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. Jivani or anyone else. Best Regards, Jay Munshi Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what is jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have a bad stone.Comments welcomeY/s,Richardsacred-objects , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Dear Richard,> > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise any > of their products in this group.> > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > the group.> > He along with his other alias be banned outright.> > Sincerely,> > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > wrote:> >> > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through> > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in doing> > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had> > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only> > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead> > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is> > selling.> > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html> >> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 per carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 that in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they MUST be jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means DOSHI, and doshi is BAD. sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote: > > Hello, > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting photographs (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. Jivani or anyone else. > > Best Regards, > > Jay Munshi > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what is jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have a bad stone. > > Comments welcome > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise any > > of their products in this group. > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > > the group. > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in doing > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is > > > selling. > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 per > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 that > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they MUST be > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means DOSHI, and doshi is BAD. > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting photographs > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. Jivani or > anyone else. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what is > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have a > bad stone. > > > > Comments welcome > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise > any > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > > > the group. > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in > doing > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hello, Absolutely. Better not to wear it. Agreed. Best Regards, Jay Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotishquality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 percarat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 thatin ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they MUST bejyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems.Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means DOSHI, and doshi is BAD.sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote:>> Hello,> > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting photographs(Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. Jivani oranyone else.> > Best Regards,> > Jay Munshi> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what isjyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUSadded to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have abad stone.> > Comments welcome> Y/s,> Richard> > sacred-objects , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@> wrote:> >> > Dear Richard,> > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertiseany > > of their products in this group.> > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > > the group.> > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright.> > > > Sincerely,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > wrote:> > >> > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business through> > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem indoing> > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had> > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he only> > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead> > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is> > > selling.> > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html> > >> >> > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, notweb links.> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 hello rechardji, i m a vedic astrologer and know the quality of gems. in the world of gem no last word there. there r so many kinda gems. but u have no right to humiliate me by ur n ur friend's post. if you want to ban me u can banned me..as u shown all that i m a fake person...its cause i m selling gems?...anyway i have a great opinion for u. ur work in gem is very deep...i manytimes give your reference as a good person in research..n still my opinion for you is same... i wish you should not use such words for me...if u dont like banne me god bess sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: > http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish > > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 per > > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 that > > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they MUST be > > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means DOSHI, > and doshi is BAD. > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting photographs > > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. Jivani or > > anyone else. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn what is > > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS > > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to have a > > bad stone. > > > > > > Comments welcome > > > Y/s, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk quality, > > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to advertise > > any > > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, under no > > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the credibility of > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business > through > > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no problem in > > doing > > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. I had > > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality as he > only > > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality dead > > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of gems he is > > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > > web links. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Sriman, Namaste! It was not my idea to ban you, it was one of your clients. I have not insulted you, you have insulted yourself. In Shastra is clear: " If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, then grief, anxiety, sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them. " --- Sri Garuda Purana: Chapter 70, Verse 19 " A gem free from all impurities and radiating itscharacteristic internal luster should be looked upon as an escort of goodluck. A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearingrough or sandy, should not be used at all. " ---AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 So in this group we believe in Shastra. Junk is forbidden. I'm a gemologist, so there is nothing you can teach me about gems. Junk is junk. Please sell jyotish quality for Jyotish purpose. Otherwise you are harming people. It is simple. Even my 10 years old son can understand that bad stone is bad. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects , " rohit " <rohitjivani wrote: > > hello rechardji, > i m a vedic astrologer and know the quality of gems. in the world > of gem no last word there. there r so many kinda gems. but u have no > right to humiliate me by ur n ur friend's post. if you want to ban > me u can banned me..as u shown all that i m a fake person...its > cause i m selling gems?...anyway i have a great opinion for u. ur > work in gem is very deep...i manytimes give your reference as a good > person in research..n still my opinion for you is same... > i wish you should not use such words for me...if u dont like banne me > god bess > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: > > http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish > > > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 > per > > > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 > that > > > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they > MUST be > > > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > > > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means > DOSHI, > > and doshi is BAD. > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting > photographs > > > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. > Jivani or > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn > what is > > > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS > > > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to > have a > > > bad stone. > > > > > > > > Comments welcome > > > > Y/s, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk > quality, > > > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to > advertise > > > any > > > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, > under no > > > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the > credibility of > > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > <rsbj66@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business > > through > > > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no > problem in > > > doing > > > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. > I had > > > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality > as he > > only > > > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality > dead > > > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of > gems he is > > > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, > not > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 i know your plans but i dont wnna talk more one last thing the person wrote bout me was not my client n i never sold him any gem...he might ask me bout gem but i never sold him..but this is a game against me anyway god bless sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Sriman, > > Namaste! It was not my idea to ban you, it was one of your clients. I have not insulted you, > you have insulted yourself. In Shastra is clear: > > " If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, then grief, anxiety, > sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them. " --- Sri Garuda Purana: > Chapter 70, Verse 19 > > " A gem free from all impurities and radiating itscharacteristic internal luster should be > looked upon as an escort of goodluck. A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > or appearingrough or sandy, should not be used at all. " ---AGNI- PURANAM: Chapter 246, > Verse 7 & 8 > > So in this group we believe in Shastra. Junk is forbidden. I'm a gemologist, so there is > nothing you can teach me about gems. Junk is junk. > > Please sell jyotish quality for Jyotish purpose. Otherwise you are harming people. It is > simple. Even my 10 years old son can understand that bad stone is bad. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " rohit " <rohitjivani@> wrote: > > > > hello rechardji, > > i m a vedic astrologer and know the quality of gems. in the world > > of gem no last word there. there r so many kinda gems. but u have no > > right to humiliate me by ur n ur friend's post. if you want to ban > > me u can banned me..as u shown all that i m a fake person...its > > cause i m selling gems?...anyway i have a great opinion for u. ur > > work in gem is very deep...i manytimes give your reference as a good > > person in research..n still my opinion for you is same... > > i wish you should not use such words for me...if u dont like banne me > > god bess > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: > > > http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish > > > > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 > > per > > > > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 > > that > > > > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they > > MUST be > > > > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > > > > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means > > DOSHI, > > > and doshi is BAD. > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting > > photographs > > > > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. > > Jivani or > > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn > > what is > > > > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS > > > > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to > > have a > > > > bad stone. > > > > > > > > > > Comments welcome > > > > > Y/s, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk > > quality, > > > > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to > > advertise > > > > any > > > > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, > > under no > > > > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the > > credibility of > > > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > <rsbj66@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business > > > through > > > > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no > > problem in > > > > doing > > > > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. > > I had > > > > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality > > as he > > > only > > > > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality > > dead > > > > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of > > gems he is > > > > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, > > not > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 i wish the person claimed buying gem from my center give the order no. and the details of payment.... sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Sriman, > > Namaste! It was not my idea to ban you, it was one of your clients. I have not insulted you, > you have insulted yourself. In Shastra is clear: > > " If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, then grief, anxiety, > sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them. " --- Sri Garuda Purana: > Chapter 70, Verse 19 > > " A gem free from all impurities and radiating itscharacteristic internal luster should be > looked upon as an escort of goodluck. A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > or appearingrough or sandy, should not be used at all. " ---AGNI- PURANAM: Chapter 246, > Verse 7 & 8 > > So in this group we believe in Shastra. Junk is forbidden. I'm a gemologist, so there is > nothing you can teach me about gems. Junk is junk. > > Please sell jyotish quality for Jyotish purpose. Otherwise you are harming people. It is > simple. Even my 10 years old son can understand that bad stone is bad. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " rohit " <rohitjivani@> wrote: > > > > hello rechardji, > > i m a vedic astrologer and know the quality of gems. in the world > > of gem no last word there. there r so many kinda gems. but u have no > > right to humiliate me by ur n ur friend's post. if you want to ban > > me u can banned me..as u shown all that i m a fake person...its > > cause i m selling gems?...anyway i have a great opinion for u. ur > > work in gem is very deep...i manytimes give your reference as a good > > person in research..n still my opinion for you is same... > > i wish you should not use such words for me...if u dont like banne me > > god bess > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: > > > http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not jyotish > > > > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least $1000 > > per > > > > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs 3000 > > that > > > > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they > > MUST be > > > > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > > > > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed means > > DOSHI, > > > and doshi is BAD. > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting > > photographs > > > > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. > > Jivani or > > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must learn > > what is > > > > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned PLUS > > > > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to > > have a > > > > bad stone. > > > > > > > > > > Comments welcome > > > > > Y/s, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling junk > > quality, > > > > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to > > advertise > > > > any > > > > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you should, > > under no > > > > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the > > credibility of > > > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > <rsbj66@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of business > > > through > > > > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no > > problem in > > > > doing > > > > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very poor. > > I had > > > > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the quality > > as he > > > only > > > > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk quality > > dead > > > > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of > > gems he is > > > > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, > > not > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Sriman Rohit, Namaste!!! Please. I have NO plan. I am not against you. If you are selling Jyotish quality gems then I'll even promote you. I promote everyone who is doing right in Planetary Gemology. Attached is a PICTURE of two emeralds. Which type of emerald do you sell? If it is jyotish quality then Jai ho!!! Please don't imagine otherwise. Best wishes, Richard --- rohit <rohitjivani wrote: > i know your plans > but i dont wnna talk more > one last thing the person wrote bout me was not my client n i never > sold him any gem...he might ask me bout gem but i never sold > him..but this is a game against me > anyway > god bless > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > <rsbj66 wrote: > > > > Dear Sriman, > > > > Namaste! It was not my idea to ban you, it was one of your > clients. I have not insulted you, > > you have insulted yourself. In Shastra is clear: > > > > " If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, > then grief, anxiety, > > sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them. " --- > Sri Garuda Purana: > > Chapter 70, Verse 19 > > > > " A gem free from all impurities and radiating itscharacteristic > internal luster should be > > looked upon as an escort of goodluck. A gem which is cracked, > fissured, devoid of luster, > > or appearingrough or sandy, should not be used at all. " ---AGNI- > PURANAM: Chapter 246, > > Verse 7 & 8 > > > > So in this group we believe in Shastra. Junk is forbidden. I'm a > gemologist, so there is > > nothing you can teach me about gems. Junk is junk. > > > > Please sell jyotish quality for Jyotish purpose. Otherwise you are > harming people. It is > > simple. Even my 10 years old son can understand that bad stone is > bad. > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " rohit " <rohitjivani@> > wrote: > > > > > > hello rechardji, > > > i m a vedic astrologer and know the quality of gems. in the > world > > > of gem no last word there. there r so many kinda gems. but u > have no > > > right to humiliate me by ur n ur friend's post. if you want to > ban > > > me u can banned me..as u shown all that i m a fake person...its > > > cause i m selling gems?...anyway i have a great opinion for u. > ur > > > work in gem is very deep...i manytimes give your reference as a > good > > > person in research..n still my opinion for you is same... > > > i wish you should not use such words for me...if u dont like > banne me > > > god bess > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is a simple Quality or Clarity scale we use: > > > > http://www.agt-gems.com/Certificates.html > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ---Hi Jay, from the PRICE alone we can tell if it is not > jyotish > > > > > quality. Like 3 carat jyotish quality emerald is at least > $1000 > > > per > > > > > carat, loose, wholesale=US$3,000 minimum. So if price is Rs > 3000 > > > that > > > > > in ubsurd. And shastra says bad stones are bad luck. So they > > > MUST be > > > > > jyotish quality - either precious or semi-precious gems. > > > > > Selling dead stones is like selling dead bodies. Flawed > means > > > DOSHI, > > > > and doshi is BAD. > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi > <jaymunshi@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that offers be made only with supporting > > > photographs > > > > > (Not touched in Photo editing softwares) whether it is Mr. > > > Jivani or > > > > > anyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Munshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > It seems there are two options, Jivani must > learn > > > what is > > > > > jyotish quality and stop selling bad luck junk OR get banned > PLUS > > > > > added to PGA OFF-LIST. It is better to have no stone than to > > > have a > > > > > bad stone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments welcome > > > > > > Y/s, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that it is proved that Mr. Rohit Jivani is selling > junk > > > quality, > > > > > > > you should ban him. Such people should not be allowed to > > > advertise > > > > > any > > > > > > > of their products in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This group enjoys a fantastic credibility and you > should, > > > under no > > > > > > > circumstances, compromise with the reputation and the > > > credibility of > > > > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He along with his other alias be banned outright. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw > Brown > > > <rsbj66@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Rohit Jivani is trying to get lot of > business > > > > through > > > > > > > > this group by selling gems, yantras etc. There is no > > > problem in > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > that, but the quality of gems he is selling is very > poor. > > > I had > > > > > > > > ordered one Emerald for myself just to check the > quality > > > as he > > > > only > > > > > > > > quoted INR 3000 for 3 carats Emerald. It was junk > quality > > > dead > > > > > > > > emerald. I thought I would let you know the quality of > > > gems he is > > > > > > > > selling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FMI: http://www.p-g-a.org/emerald-clarity-artl.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives > answers, > > > not > > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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