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Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 tattvamasi - At this juncture, it is instructive to look at the advaitin interpretation of the chAndogya statement tattvamasi, following SankarAcArya. This is one of the four statements that have become well- known as the upanishadic mahAvAkyas, which equate Atman with brahman. The four most important mahAvAkyas (one from each veda) are: - "ayamAtmA brahma" (muNDaka) - "tattvamasi" (chAndogya) - "aham brahmAsmi" (bRhadAraNyaka) - "prajnAnam brahma" (aitareya) Sankara explains tattvamasi as follows. tat is a common designation for brahman in the upanishads, while tvam (thou) addresses the student. The sentence states an equation of two seemingly different entities tat - that, and tvam - thou, by means of the verb asi - are. In general, brahman (tat) is commonly understood as ISvara (saguNa brahman), with an infinity of attributes, including the power of creation. tvam is the individual who is bound, who is embodied, and who is in need of liberation. The difference between tvam and tat seems to be a matter of common knowledge for all individuals. What is the reason for the upanishad to teach an identity then? An identity cannot be stipulated, even in infallible Sruti, if there is a real difference. Keeping in mind that Sruti is infallible, advaita therefore concludes that really there is no ultimate difference between tat and tvam. The identity expressed in a statement like tattvamasi is therefore held to be Real, and its realization constitutes the height of knowledge (jnAna). Direct experience of this jnAna is in fact moksha. It also follows that since this identity is not perceived normally, difference arises out of avidyA, ignorance of the true nature of Reality. Since Sruti is superior to perception, this identity is indeed the supreme truth, all difference being in the realm of relative perception. If non-dualism is the true nature of Reality, why is this difference perceived in the first place? Given advaita's basis on the non-dualistic scriptures, the perception of difference remains, in the final analysis, inexplicable. This is labeled "anirvAcya/anirvacanIya " in advaita - something that can never be fully understood by the human mind. Since perception of duality presupposes avidyA, no amount of logical analysis, itself based on this duality, will satisfactorily explain avidyA. Hence, SankarAcArya is not much interested in explicating avidyA, except to acknowledge its presence in all human activity, and in trying to overcome it to understand brahman. laxmi prakash <laxmiprakash_msaiSriayyappan Sent: Saturday, 24 November, 2007 11:56:35 AM total detilels I want means thathvamasi What is thathvamasi for total detilels Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 You are merging with your orgin. That is the meaning of it. Swamy saranam S.lakshmi Narasimhan 044-22526518 sriayyappan [sriayyappan ] On Behalf Of laxmi prakash Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:57 AM Sriayyappan total detilels I want means thathvamasi What is thathvamasi for total detilels Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. " This Message and its contents is intended solely for the addressee and is proprietary.Information in this mail is for L & T Business Usage only. Any Use to other than the addressee is misuse and infringement to Proprietorship of L & T ECC.If you are not the addressee please return the mail to the sender.L & T ECC DIVISION " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Please find out who you are through self introspection. That is the other form of tatvamasi. Or surrender completely God. That too tatvamasi. sriayyappan [sriayyappan ] On Behalf Of Srinivas Jupudi Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:45 PM laxmi prakash; Sriayyappan Re: total detilels tattvamasi - At this juncture, it is instructive to look at the advaitin interpretation of the chAndogya statement tattvamasi, following SankarAcArya. This is one of the four statements that have become well- known as the upanishadic mahAvAkyas, which equate Atman with brahman. The four most important mahAvAkyas (one from each veda) are: - " ayamAtmA brahma " (muNDaka) - " tattvamasi " (chAndogya) - " aham brahmAsmi " (bRhadAraNyaka) - " prajnAnam brahma " (aitareya) Sankara explains tattvamasi as follows. tat is a common designation for brahman in the upanishads, while tvam (thou) addresses the student. The sentence states an equation of two seemingly different entities tat - that, and tvam - thou, by means of the verb asi - are. In general, brahman (tat) is commonly understood as ISvara (saguNa brahman), with an infinity of attributes, including the power of creation. tvam is the individual who is bound, who is embodied, and who is in need of liberation. The difference between tvam and tat seems to be a matter of common knowledge for all individuals. What is the reason for the upanishad to teach an identity then? An identity cannot be stipulated, even in infallible Sruti, if there is a real difference. Keeping in mind that Sruti is infallible, advaita therefore concludes that really there is no ultimate difference between tat and tvam. The identity expressed in a statement like tattvamasi is therefore held to be Real, and its realization constitutes the height of knowledge (jnAna). Direct experience of this jnAna is in fact moksha. It also follows that since this identity is not perceived normally, difference arises out of avidyA, ignorance of the true nature of Reality. Since Sruti is superior to perception, this identity is indeed the supreme truth, all difference being in the realm of relative perception. If non-dualism is the true nature of Reality, why is this difference perceived in the first place? Given advaita's basis on the non-dualistic scriptures, the perception of difference remains, in the final analysis, inexplicable. This is labeled " anirvAcya/anirvacanIya " in advaita - something that can never be fully understood by the human mind. Since perception of duality presupposes avidyA, no amount of logical analysis, itself based on this duality, will satisfactorily explain avidyA. Hence, SankarAcArya is not much interested in explicating avidyA, except to acknowledge its presence in all human activity, and in trying to overcome it to understand brahman. laxmi prakash <laxmiprakash_msai (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sriayyappan Saturday, 24 November, 2007 11:56:35 AM total detilels I want means thathvamasi What is thathvamasi for total detilels Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. " This Message and its contents is intended solely for the addressee and is proprietary.Information in this mail is for L & T Business Usage only. Any Use to other than the addressee is misuse and infringement to Proprietorship of L & T ECC.If you are not the addressee please return the mail to the sender.L & T ECC DIVISION " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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