Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ramakrishna , " Brad Stephan " <bradstephan wrote: > > Dear Friends: > Do you consider the Bhagavad Gita to be an advaita vedanta scripture, dvaita > vedanta or both? (Please explain your reasoning.) > Namaste, > Brad > My dear friend I think it is an advaita vedanta scripture becouse it is elaborates each schools like bhakti yoga,jana yoga,karma yoga from the basic stand of advaita " all are nothing but athma and nothing is there other than athma " . There is nothing other than advaitha.Even dvaitha and visishtadvaitha are only some " user friendly editions " of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hello Brad, Although it has been a while since I read Bhagavad Gita or any of Swamiji's lectures on Advaita, I do think Bhagavad Gita is not Advaita philosophy. When we talk about Bhakti or devotion we automatically consider ourselves distinct from the chosen deity. I believe Advaita does not support the idea of an incarnation of God, which Sri Krishna is widely considered to be. In fact, the concept of God is also considered an illusion. It is just Satchidananda that exists and nothing else and each one of us is completely one with it and not in any portion. Swami Ashokananda compared Advaita with allopathy pill(the conventional western medicine) which is bitter to swallow but has an immediate effect in dehypnotising us from Maya once it is assimilated. Regards, Siddharth Ramakrishna , " prmnampoothiri " <PRAMOD.NAMPOOTHIRI wrote: > > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 it guide for bot dvaita & advait, when god says about "bhrmha nivan mruchati" it indicates the sthiti of bhramha i.e. advait & when god speeks his vibhuti in vibhuti yog, he introduces his vibhuti in this situation he ( introducer) & vibhuti ( object ) is different. so we can say that sri mad bhagwadgeeta is guide for both hitesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 jai sai nath thanks alot saurabh for sending this mail it explains alot and i was having same question like a kid. jai sai nath hardikSaurabh Patel <mystic_saurabh wrote: I received this email from a friend and I thought of sharing it with you all. -- Story: An old Farmer lived on a farm in the mountains with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Bhagavat Geeta. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could. One day the grandson asked, "Grandpa! I try to read the Bhagavat Geeta just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Bhagavat Geeta do?" The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, "Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water." The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, "You'll have to move a little faster next time," and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead. The old man said, "I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You're just not trying hard enough," and he went out the door to watch the boy try again. At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, "See Grandpa, it's useless!" > "So you think it is useless?" The old man said, "Look at the basket." The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out. "Son, that's what happens when you read the Bhagavat Geeta. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Krishna in our lives." "Celebrate Life. Care for others and share whatever you have with those less fortunate than you. Broaden your vision, for the whole world belongs to you."-- ----- "Let Noble thoughts come to us from every side".- RigVeda (1-89-i) Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Jai Sai Ram, Dear Hardik, You don't need to mention the thanks; I just keep forwarding the good emails that I get to everyone... Anyways, if you are planning to read the Bhagavad Gita then I would like to suggest you something. I went through two different people's translations in English of Bhagavad Gita, and I also spoke with a few people, and my personal opinion is that the translation and commentary given by Paramahansa Yogananda of Bhagavad Gita in English is one of the Best one can ever find in English. Check the link below to order it online: https://www.srfbooks.com/Item.asp?id=2009 Or go to the nearest SRF or YSS center... After you read it you will be so glad that you will pay me a million dollors...loll...just kidding...but if you are looking for an English translation of Bhagavad Gita then that book is the one I recommend. Jai Sai Ram. On 12/07/07, hardi <p_hardi wrote: jai sai nath thanks alot saurabh for sending this mail it explains alot and i was having same question like a kid. jai sai nath hardikSaurabh Patel <mystic_saurabh (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: I received this email from a friend and I thought of sharing it with you all. -- Story: An old Farmer lived on a farm in the mountains with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Bhagavat Geeta. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could. One day the grandson asked, " Grandpa! I try to read the Bhagavat Geeta just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Bhagavat Geeta do? " The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, " Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water. " The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, " You'll have to move a little faster next time, " and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead. The old man said, " I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You're just not trying hard enough, " and he went out the door to watch the boy try again. At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, " See Grandpa, it's useless! " > " So you think it is useless? " The old man said, " Look at the basket. " The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out. " Son, that's what happens when you read the Bhagavat Geeta. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Krishna in our lives. " " Celebrate Life. Care for others and share whatever you have with those less fortunate than you. Broaden your vision, for the whole world belongs to you. " -- ----- " Let Noble thoughts come to us from every side " .- RigVeda (1-89-i) Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now -- ----- " Let Noble thoughts come to us from every side " .- RigVeda (1-89-i) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Moorthy and Kumari Garu, Love and Love alone.... Many thanks for your wonderful postings. I totally agree with the interpretation of the slokam of Srimad Bhagavad Gita. And, being a reader of Yogananda Paramahamsa's Gita titled " God Talks with Arjuna " and also books like " Syamacharana Kriya Yogamu mariyu Advaitavaadamu " and " Puraanapurusha Yogiraaja Sri Syaamacharana Laahiri " , I can fully understand what do you wanted to convey. But, without the intention of picking an argument, let me clarify that we are not here either to degrade or decry the puja methods being followed by others. Yes, I do agree that plucking of flowers from other's compound, without their explicit permission, is wrong, but it does not us the right to condemn all of those, who follow this path of devotion. Every one of us is searching for HIM in some way or the other in whatever style one is happy with and we are here only to encourage, if we can, to grow to higher levels. If that is the intention, let us not use any negative connotations. I hope you would understand and appreciate my feelings. Love and Love alone.... P. Gopi Krishna Bhagavad gita Posted by: " Moorthy & Kumari Rayasam " rayasam_home rayasam_home Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:02 am (PST) Priya atma bandhuvulaku Namaste, Sri Sri Shyama charan lahiri mahasaya used to say If anybody wants to understand Bhagavad Gita ---- one has to enter in to his own inner self because its not possible to understand the real meaning of Gita out side. Sri Lahiri mahasaya interpreted Gita to his disciples every day after experiancing it through his sadhana. One such sloka which is common to us all and which is wrongly interpreted is patram, pushpam, phalam toyam yome bhakhtya prayacchati Tadaham bhakktyupa hrutamasnami prayatatmanaha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Dear Sri Varun, I was reading Complete works of Swami Vivekananda - Raja Yoga, (Patanjali's Yoga Aphorisms, Chapter 1, Concentration: Its spiritual uses)He was explaining the meaning of Aphorism 18(There is another Samadhi which is attained by the constant practice of cessation of all mental activity, in which the Chitta retains only the unmanifested impressions.)Just copying the portion related to your question:"...According to the Sankhya philosophy, there is no God. It says that there can be no God of this universe, because if there were one, He must be a soul, and a soul must be either bound or free. How can the soul that is bound by nature, or controlled by nature, create? It is itself a slave. On the other hand, why should the Soul that is free create and manipulate all these things? It has no desires, so it cannot have any need to create. Secondly, it says the theory of God is an unnecessary one; nature explains all. What is the use of any God? But Kapila teaches that there are many souls, who, though nearly attaining perfection, fall short because they cannot perfectly renounce all powers. Their minds for a time merge in nature, to re-emerge as its masters. Such gods there are. We shall all become such gods, and, according to the Sankhyas, the God spoken of in the Vedas really means one of these free souls. Beyond them there is not an eternally free and blessed Creator of the universe. On the other hand, the Yogis say, "Not so, there is a God; there is one Soul separate from all other souls, and He is the eternal Master of all creation, the ever free, the Teacher of all teachers." The Yogis admit that those whom the Sankhyas call "the merged in nature" also exist. They are Yogis who have fallen short of perfection, and though, for a time, debarred from attaining the goal, remain as rulers of parts of the universe. "Regards,Sujata--- On Sat, 4/18/09, Varun <greatsage7 wrote:Varun <greatsage7[sri Ramakrishna] bhagavad gitaRamakrishna Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 1:50 AM dear members, in the bhagavad gita we find this verse which runs like this In whatsoever form one seeks Me, I reach him in that form, for all mankind are but following the paths I laid down for them" taken from the story of the boy gopala,volume 6,complete works of swami vivekananda. i wasn't able to locate the exact verse in sanskrit. and then we also find this other verse in chapter 9 text 23. a translation by swami vireswarananda of sri ramakrishna math, "Even those devotees of other gods who worship (them) endowed with faith worship me alone O son of kunti, though in an unauthorized way." again in text 25 of the same chapter "The worshippers of the gods go to the gods, those who worship the ancestors go to the ancestors, those who worship ghosts and spirits will go to them and those who worship me will come to me" there seems to my mind a contradiction of sorts here.if it is he that enlivens everything in this universe, if it is he alone in every form, then why this distinction? why the difference that 'those who worship the gods will go to them' and 'those who worship me will come to me'?are the 'gods' not nondifferent from him going by the first verse? Varun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hi Varun, The verse from Bhagavad Gita states that: "In whatsoever form one seeks Me, I reach him in that form....." This word 'form' is critical here. Our religion gives us the flexibility to worship any form we like. Someone may like the form of Mother Kali, someone may like the form of child Krishna, Lord Rama the king and so on. Ultimately these all are forms of one Satchidanand. The verse where it states: "The worshippers of the gods go to the gods......" Again, for the reassurance of a devotee - the form of God he/she has worshiped or loved their entire life is the form they will reach in the end. Ultimately they will reach one Satchidanand. Hope my understanting of the verses helps resolve your query. Glory to Shri Ramakrishna Tapasvi Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 41. By the prevalence of impiety, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt. Women corrupted, there will be intermingling of castes (varna-samkara), O descendent of Vrishnis. 42. Confusion of castes leads the family of these destroyers of families also to hell; for, their forefathers fall (down to hell), deprived of the offerings of pinda (rice-ball) and water. 43. By these evil deeds of the destroyers of families, which cause the intermingling of castes, the eternal dharmas of castes and families are subverted. 44. We have heard, O Janardana, that necessary is the dwelling in hell of the men whose family dharmas are subverted. 45. Alas! We have resolved to commit a great sin, inasmuch as we are endeavouring to slay our kinsmen out of a craving for the pleasures of dominion. 46. It would be better for me, if the sons of Dhritarashtra, with arms in hand, should slay me unarmed and unresisting in the battle. SAMJAYA SAID: 47. Having said thus, Arjuna, sorrow-stricken in mind, cast aside his bow and arrows in the midst of the battle and sat down in the chariot. to be continued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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