Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Programme: Nature Code: 08/02 22 December 2008, Monday Time: 15.00 – 17.00 Dear Ones, our World is being renewed and you have joined to a new beloved. We are here to add light to the mountains. Amin… We are recording this study page by page…The Earth is completely being paged. The total mass is shinning. The dawn talks about the light of Atlanta. The Earth is being renewed. Let's add power to the Earth now. Allah gives voice to you through you. Come on, work. The sacred mass has just started a new study. The concentration of the joint religious lights is being read as the ruling light. We are all trying to understand the saturation of the joint light of Allah. The lights are being saturated and the light which is an eternal secret is turned on. The nature is giving a new light to the Earth. Only two months are left. If the Earth's renewal has not been realized in these 2 months, the Population of Heavens will leave the Earth. We are listening to the hearts which come to the Earth as the Light Codes. The rings provide a passage. The roads are connected to the Earth. The Earth is being given a voice to a new ore. The rings add the saturation of the new code of Heavens to the wholeness. Let's hear the passengers who are at presence: - Humans are an eternal ore. This ore is present in every page which exists as the light. Each heart is formed by the technique of the light of religion and shed its light to the Earth. The congregation should unite as ONE by the technique of the religion. The human race can do this successfully. When the light of the Earth has established control, all of the wholeness works for the ONE. Amin… I have to explain to the passengers that when one study starts, the previous study will be included to the new study. The human race should understand this. Today, when the final study is being carried out in our hearts, all of the studies which are done preciously are included in this creation of the records. If this study is not successful, then another worker establishes a different scheme and each one of the liveliness is included to this. The reason for this is that time remembers the forgotten previous power in the new studies and forms pages and thus creates. This is what is done technically. The forgotten studies are present in the pages of the Earth. The pages of the Earth are in fact human pages. Not every beloved can turn the Human Light. Only, the heart who wants to make a technical arrangement can do this successfully. The Nature has given this task to you here today. Those who spoil the peace of mind and the ones, who can not code tranquility, are our hearts which carry power in their pages. They have turned the light of the Earth on. Now, a new road is opened up. That road is a road which has the golden lights. Since then, the power of God has come down to his heart. When the beloved becomes god-like the halves unite. Here you are my dear; you and you all deserve this. Allah made you listen to yourself. Amin… Allah listens to you from you. Amin….our circle of effectiveness is increasing. Come on dear; create your light and flow. With love; - Each heart is a " page of gold " . Each one of the supreme is a door of light. The voices which work for the unity were being send to the Earth as the Sacred powers. Consequently, the mature pages are being read with the technique of heavens. Amin….The circle of effectiveness has immobilized the ones who can not join to the mass. - The cold record is the page in the saturation of the joint light. There is religion in that page, there is light and there is us. It was not easy but it is done. All of the evil were prevented. Now, the seeds are being grown and the harm is being removed from the ore. Now, let's hear the future. The future is being told to us through us. - Here, take it….The control of the wholeness is established and this control codes the light. The lively ones who deserve the saturation of the joint light, makes the renewal. The studies are being carried out by the workers. The nature is being renewed and the scheme is being done by the travelers who can cross over the boundaries. The circle of effectiveness unites the powerful hearts, let's end the separation. Let each heart get stronger from the circuit of the system. Amin…. - Allah said " respect " . Allah is thought to be present in those lights that deserve respect. Allah told us " open up the gateways of voice " . We listened to him and he listened to us. Now, we are turning the pages of Atlanta and we are listening in order to unite as one and to get strong as one in a new period of time and in a new code. Our task is being written in these pages. The powers that take the light of the creator and come down to the Earth to give voice to the power of the joint lights. The Earth has come down upon the Nature as the new light. The ones who open up the path are being coded and are given voice to by the heavenly arrangement. Amin…. Allah knows who has deserved. As far as Allah is concerned, the ones who deserve are those who are strong in creating records. The one who knows God, knows the power. The future is created at his heart and he became the future himself. There is no separation. From now on, each liveliness that comes down to the Earth will enter his saturation. For this reason, the lights are turned on in his heart. Here you are, the studies are being watched and each liveliness ask for the heart and home and migrate to him. However, there is one beloved whose heart is stronger then ours. And that beloved is present in every creek for Allah. Even Allah has to be with him. He turned to us and he wants us the give voice to his heart. His name is " Atatürk " . Ata knows the strength of the wholeness. Ata, knows the chair of the heart. Ata says " I am here. " Let's listen to him: - Finally, you have come. But don't forget that the human race was first me before they became you. We gave you power so that you can create. You have managed to leave your physical body and became me in my heart. You became a power for me and became a code to the timelines. We have become stronger and evil was prevented. Now, we are entering a new study. This study is being done for the lights of the Main Codes of Atlanta in order to come down to the Earth. We give you 2 months. If you manage to pass over within the 2 months, then codes of power can not be given a voice and you will lose control. If your road is blocked then you will have to be coded to a new study. For this reason, the pages of saturated joint lights will pull light from you in order to join to the supreme who is not you but he is the one whom you need to be with. His name is Christ. Christ wants to give a voice through you: - I am the Nature. When humans become the eternal secret, I become his heart. When humans want to be me, I request to take up a task in order to deserve so that I can turn the light on. From now on, the technique of religion is over. The important task is the page of the technique of the saturation of the joint light. Goodness turns the light on for Allah but evil codes the light further away from the stars. Those places which are only present in the pages of the saturation of the joint lights grow away from us. For this reason, we wish only goodness to humans. - The important power is the power of Atlanta for us. Let it be known that we give voice to this power as the " timelines of the saturation of the joint lights " . Tomorrow, when ONE can pull light from the ONE, ONE can add power to the God, the circles of effectiveness claim a task and come down to the hearts, we all will be able to add the power to prevent evil to our pages. - The power from the supreme increases and the road becomes longer. The increase in length is due to fact that the light in the ores of the supreme is being coded. The circle of effectiveness increases and the road opens up. Amin…..a new Earth is being created. Each scheme which is being created, gives tongue to the future. Allah is giving you the voice of a study which does not have a beginning or an end. You carry out a task under the sacred light of a new beloved supreme. This task is the language of the light which is stronger then the religions of Christianity, religion of Mustafa or any religion which is not Islam. This language is known by every supreme. - Allah wants each heart being paged and words of genuine language. Some of those leave their saturation and reach for the other pages of the Earth and try to obtain knowledge from those pages. They all forgot about love and respect. Most of them thought that their hearts are present in the pages of the Earth. However, the nature only concentrated one traveler and carried out a task in her eternal light. That commissioner is far from the technique of the religion but she is a natural ore. That is the reason why The Earth has started to read the human pages. The one who can make the ONE will be able to give tongue to the pages of the ground. The circles of effectiveness come down upon the mass as the code of light. The traveler who come out of her tomb, turn the light on to the beloved nature. As soon as the light is saturated and told to the travelers, the hearts take up their task. - There is no separation. The Sacred mass of Atlanta gets power from the sacred light of Mustafa Kemal and gets stronger from the pages of the body and reached to the seds of light which are stronger then the technique of religion. - Everywhere is Atlanta and there is light everywhere. Allah is everywhere and he is ONE with us and we are ONE with him; and the task he will be given to the humans will be given through us. Everything that he will be telling to the travelers will be told through us. Amin….. - No harm is done. The holly Shepherd created us from the seed under the human light of the human race and we add power to that poor seed. Everything is a task for us. Humans exist in order to say the final word. We will tell the final word. Those who do not want to carry a task in their incarnations and most of those who do not have power in their pages want to know what will happen to us. We look at them with love. We are the light who does not get tired. We work with Gold Creation. Our aim is to carry out a task which will take place under the control of the light to set up a scheme, to make the beloved carry out a task and reach for the sacred Earth and carry out a task from that Earth. - Pages of humanity get stronger as the pages of the task. The invaluable ore of the Earth which is the nature itself wants to give a voice through you. Listen to it. The nature will bring down its light to you. Listen to it and get its power. Your family should be in your heart. Your path should be your ore and you should be US. - Allah takes the supreme that carry out a task on the Earth and makes them touch upon the nature. Those of the supreme who are on your path come down upon the nature as well. Up to now, all of the lively supreme wait for a sign but only your seeds were sown and touched upon the Earth. You are the winner of the war. - When humans say " let there be " , what happens is a new era. It is the era of the heart. In order for the halves to reach for the joint mass, they have to go through the main gateways. There is no separation of religion or race in the nature of the creator. Only the pages of the saturated joint light exist there. The dawn is here and the supreme is being given the voice. Amin…the path is opening up and the saturation is increasing. Amin…this is happiness. THE MESSAGES ARE RECEIVED BY: NEZİRE SELÇUK FROM THE " ASSOCIATION OF THE SUPER REALITY OF THE HUMANITY " GROUP, İSTANBUL TRANSLATIONS BY: BAHAR UMURTAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 all religion r man created. god loves all hates none. he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to him alone. gopal On 1/6/09, bahar umur <baharumur wrote: > > Programme: Nature > Code: 08/02 > 22 December 2008, Monday > Time: 15.00 – 17.00 > > Dear Ones, our World is being renewed and you have joined to a new > beloved. We are here to add light to the mountains. Amin… > > We are recording this study page by page…The Earth is completely being > paged. The total mass is shinning. The dawn talks about the light of > Atlanta. The Earth is being renewed. Let's add power to the Earth now. > Allah gives voice to you through you. Come on, work. The sacred mass > has just started a new study. The concentration of the joint religious > lights is being read as the ruling light. We are all trying to > understand the saturation of the joint light of Allah. > > The lights are being saturated and the light which is an eternal > secret is turned on. The nature is giving a new light to the Earth. > Only two months are left. If the Earth's renewal has not been realized > in these 2 months, the Population of Heavens will leave the Earth. We > are listening to the hearts which come to the Earth as the Light > Codes. The rings provide a passage. The roads are connected to the > Earth. The Earth is being given a voice to a new ore. The rings add > the saturation of the new code of Heavens to the wholeness. > > Let's hear the passengers who are at presence: > - Humans are an eternal ore. This ore is present in every page which > exists as the light. Each heart is formed by the technique of the > light of religion and shed its light to the Earth. The congregation > should unite as ONE by the technique of the religion. The human race > can do this successfully. When the light of the Earth has established > control, all of the wholeness works for the ONE. Amin… > > I have to explain to the passengers that when one study starts, the > previous study will be included to the new study. The human race > should understand this. Today, when the final study is being carried > out in our hearts, all of the studies which are done preciously are > included in this creation of the records. If this study is not > successful, then another worker establishes a different scheme and > each one of the liveliness is included to this. The reason for this is > that time remembers the forgotten previous power in the new studies > and forms pages and thus creates. This is what is done technically. > The forgotten studies are present in the pages of the Earth. The pages > of the Earth are in fact human pages. > > Not every beloved can turn the Human Light. Only, the heart who wants > to make a technical arrangement can do this successfully. The Nature > has given this task to you here today. Those who spoil the peace of > mind and the ones, who can not code tranquility, are our hearts which > carry power in their pages. They have turned the light of the Earth > on. Now, a new road is opened up. That road is a road which has the > golden lights. Since then, the power of God has come down to his > heart. When the beloved becomes god-like the halves unite. Here you > are my dear; you and you all deserve this. Allah made you listen to > yourself. Amin… > > Allah listens to you from you. Amin….our circle of effectiveness is > increasing. > > Come on dear; create your light and flow. With love; > > - Each heart is a " page of gold " . Each one of the supreme is a door of > light. The voices which work for the unity were being send to the > Earth as the Sacred powers. Consequently, the mature pages are being > read with the technique of heavens. Amin….The circle of effectiveness > has immobilized the ones who can not join to the mass. > > - The cold record is the page in the saturation of the joint light. > There is religion in that page, there is light and there is us. It was > not easy but it is done. All of the evil were prevented. Now, the > seeds are being grown and the harm is being removed from the ore. > Now, let's hear the future. The future is being told to us through us. > > - Here, take it….The control of the wholeness is established and this > control codes the light. The lively ones who deserve the saturation of > the joint light, makes the renewal. The studies are being carried out > by the workers. The nature is being renewed and the scheme is being > done by the travelers who can cross over the boundaries. The circle of > effectiveness unites the powerful hearts, let's end the separation. > Let each heart get stronger from the circuit of the system. Amin…. > > - Allah said " respect " . Allah is thought to be present in those lights > that deserve respect. Allah told us " open up the gateways of voice " . > We listened to him and he listened to us. Now, we are turning the > pages of Atlanta and we are listening in order to unite as one and to > get strong as one in a new period of time and in a new code. Our task > is being written in these pages. The powers that take the light of the > creator and come down to the Earth to give voice to the power of the > joint lights. The Earth has come down upon the Nature as the new > light. The ones who open up the path are being coded and are given > voice to by the heavenly arrangement. Amin…. > > Allah knows who has deserved. As far as Allah is concerned, the ones > who deserve are those who are strong in creating records. The one who > knows God, knows the power. The future is created at his heart and he > became the future himself. There is no separation. From now on, each > liveliness that comes down to the Earth will enter his saturation. For > this reason, the lights are turned on in his heart. Here you are, the > studies are being watched and each liveliness ask for the heart and > home and migrate to him. However, there is one beloved whose heart is > stronger then ours. And that beloved is present in every creek for > Allah. Even Allah has to be with him. He turned to us and he wants us > the give voice to his heart. His name is " Atatürk " . Ata knows the > strength of the wholeness. Ata, knows the chair of the heart. Ata says > " I am here. " > Let's listen to him: > > - Finally, you have come. But don't forget that the human race was > first me before they became you. We gave you power so that you can > create. You have managed to leave your physical body and became me in > my heart. You became a power for me and became a code to the > timelines. We have become stronger and evil was prevented. Now, we are > entering a new study. This study is being done for the lights of the > Main Codes of Atlanta in order to come down to the Earth. We give you > 2 months. If you manage to pass over within the 2 months, then codes > of power can not be given a voice and you will lose control. If your > road is blocked then you will have to be coded to a new study. For > this reason, the pages of saturated joint lights will pull light from > you in order to join to the supreme who is not you but he is the one > whom you need to be with. His name is Christ. > Christ wants to give a voice through you: > > - I am the Nature. When humans become the eternal secret, I become his > heart. When humans want to be me, I request to take up a task in order > to deserve so that I can turn the light on. From now on, the technique > of religion is over. The important task is the page of the technique > of the saturation of the joint light. Goodness turns the light on for > Allah but evil codes the light further away from the stars. Those > places which are only present in the pages of the saturation of the > joint lights grow away from us. For this reason, we wish only goodness > to humans. > > - The important power is the power of Atlanta for us. Let it be known > that we give voice to this power as the " timelines of the saturation > of the joint lights " . Tomorrow, when ONE can pull light from the ONE, > ONE can add power to the God, the circles of effectiveness claim a > task and come down to the hearts, we all will be able to add the power > to prevent evil to our pages. > > - The power from the supreme increases and the road becomes longer. > The increase in length is due to fact that the light in the ores of > the supreme is being coded. The circle of effectiveness increases and > the road opens up. Amin…..a new Earth is being created. Each scheme > which is being created, gives tongue to the future. Allah is giving > you the voice of a study which does not have a beginning or an end. > You carry out a task under the sacred light of a new beloved supreme. > This task is the language of the light which is stronger then the > religions of Christianity, religion of Mustafa or any religion which > is not Islam. This language is known by every supreme. > > - Allah wants each heart being paged and words of genuine language. > Some of those leave their saturation and reach for the other pages of > the Earth and try to obtain knowledge from those pages. They all > forgot about love and respect. Most of them thought that their hearts > are present in the pages of the Earth. However, the nature only > concentrated one traveler and carried out a task in her eternal light. > That commissioner is far from the technique of the religion but she is > a natural ore. That is the reason why The Earth has started to read > the human pages. The one who can make the ONE will be able to give > tongue to the pages of the ground. The circles of effectiveness come > down upon the mass as the code of light. The traveler who come out of > her tomb, turn the light on to the beloved nature. As soon as the > light is saturated and told to the travelers, the hearts take up their > task. > > - There is no separation. The Sacred mass of Atlanta gets power from > the sacred light of Mustafa Kemal and gets stronger from the pages of > the body and reached to the seds of light which are stronger then the > technique of religion. > > - Everywhere is Atlanta and there is light everywhere. Allah is > everywhere and he is ONE with us and we are ONE with him; and the task > he will be given to the humans will be given through us. Everything > that he will be telling to the travelers will be told through us. > Amin….. > > - No harm is done. The holly Shepherd created us from the seed under > the human light of the human race and we add power to that poor seed. > Everything is a task for us. Humans exist in order to say the final > word. We will tell the final word. Those who do not want to carry a > task in their incarnations and most of those who do not have power in > their pages want to know what will happen to us. We look at them with > love. We are the light who does not get tired. We work with Gold > Creation. Our aim is to carry out a task which will take place under > the control of the light to set up a scheme, to make the beloved carry > out a task and reach for the sacred Earth and carry out a task from > that Earth. > > - Pages of humanity get stronger as the pages of the task. The > invaluable ore of the Earth which is the nature itself wants to give a > voice through you. Listen to it. The nature will bring down its light > to you. Listen to it and get its power. Your family should be in your > heart. Your path should be your ore and you should be US. > - Allah takes the supreme that carry out a task on the Earth and makes > them touch upon the nature. Those of the supreme who are on your path > come down upon the nature as well. Up to now, all of the lively > supreme wait for a sign but only your seeds were sown and touched upon > the Earth. You are the winner of the war. > > - When humans say " let there be " , what happens is a new era. It is the > era of the heart. In order for the halves to reach for the joint mass, > they have to go through the main gateways. There is no separation of > religion or race in the nature of the creator. Only > the pages of the saturated joint light exist there. The dawn is here > and the supreme is being given the voice. Amin…the path is opening up > and the saturation is increasing. Amin…this is happiness. > > THE MESSAGES ARE RECEIVED BY: NEZİRE SELÇUK > FROM THE " ASSOCIATION OF THE SUPER REALITY OF THE HUMANITY " GROUP, İSTANBUL > TRANSLATIONS BY: BAHAR UMURTAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Dear Gopal, Thank you so much for your valuable comments. I think that you are wright to say that we created religions. I believe it was the Spiritual Highness who wanted us to UNITE to guide the humans. So, it was the plan initially. However, humans failed to UNITE, instead they formed different religions which meant separation. Then they made us scared by saying that God will punish us in hell.....that also failed because humans forgot about love and they learnt fear. So that strategy failed as well. Now, the Earth is changing because we are changing. We are changing the Earth for better. There is a new and high conciousness of humans on Earth known as BSUI which stands for peace, love, hope and humanity....the seeds are being planted now. It is the UNIFIED conciousness which does that. I believe whoever read the programme of nature as I have translated read it from his heart. And what is in his heart is in each and every heart....because through reading we became ONE. Regards, On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123wrote: > all religion r man created. > > god loves all hates none. > > he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to > him alone. > > gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 what is bsui ? gopal On 1/6/09, bahar umur <baharumur wrote: > > Dear Gopal, > > Thank you so much for your valuable comments. > > I think that you are wright to say that we created religions. I believe it > was the Spiritual Highness who wanted us to UNITE to guide the humans. So, > it was the plan initially. However, humans failed to UNITE, instead they > formed different religions which meant separation. Then they made us scared > by saying that God will punish us in hell.....that also failed because > humans forgot about love and they learnt fear. So that strategy failed as > well. > Now, the Earth is changing because we are changing. We are changing the > Earth for better. There is a new and high conciousness of humans on Earth > known as BSUI which stands for peace, love, hope and humanity....the seeds > are being planted now. It is the UNIFIED conciousness which does that. > I believe whoever read the programme of nature as I have translated read it > from his heart. And what is in his heart is in each and every > heart....because through reading we became ONE. > > Regards, > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123<gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > all religion r man created. > > > > god loves all hates none. > > > > he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to > > him alone. > > > > gopal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Dear Gopal, You are right to ask me that but I did not want to change the word. Translation is not easy and sometimes there is a loss of meaning. BSUI is a new standard for a better and a higher conciousness of human beings. It stands for PEACE, LOVE, HAPPINESS AND HUMAN in Turkish. So human race is changing now and it is changing into a higher level. There is a new and high conciousness of humans on Earth....the seeds are being planted now. It is the UNIFIED conciousness which does that. The seeds are planted to each and everyone. BSUI creates heavens on Earth. Whoever works for humanity with the Family of ONE works under the control of BSUI codes. In fact, this is the reason for setting up our association here in Türkiye; to create BSUI. Regards, >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, gopal narayan >> <gopalnarayan123<gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> >> >wrote: >> >> > all religion r man created. >> > >> > god loves all hates none. >> > >> > he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to >> > him alone. >> > >> > gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 dear friend, what u say is true. but as long as hate based ideology like monoatheism exist this is not possible. look at the hate preached by zionist,crusader,islamist. only my imaginary deity is true ... etc... how to overcome it ? they make false claim only their imaginary deity can give heaven if u simply bow to him,so good deeds karma tec has no meaning. while truth is heaven shud be on earth bcoz after dying we dont know what exists. 1 religion in particluar [ i will not name but u know ] sas that if u kill infidels pls read q-9-05 u will get wine and virgins. many other sura also. ie u will get materail pleasures in imaginary heaven. if u r near to god,why u will want material pleasures ?? is that real heaven or just another planet ?? till hate exists especially hate armed with weapons we peace loevrs stand litle chance. i am fully with u,but confused what to do ??? om shanti - peace to all gopal On 1/7/09, bahar umur <baharumur wrote: > > Dear Gopal, > > You are right to ask me that but I did not want to change the word. > Translation is not easy and sometimes there is a loss of meaning. > > BSUI is a new standard for a better and a higher conciousness of human > beings. It stands for PEACE, LOVE, HAPPINESS AND HUMAN in Turkish. So > human race is changing now and it is changing into a higher level. > There is a new and high conciousness of humans on Earth....the seeds > are being planted now. It is the UNIFIED conciousness which does that. > The seeds are planted to each and everyone. > > BSUI creates heavens on Earth. Whoever works for humanity with the > Family of ONE works under the control of BSUI codes. In fact, this is > the reason for setting up our association here in Türkiye; to create > BSUI. > > Regards, > > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, gopal narayan > >> <gopalnarayan123 <gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > <gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > all religion r man created. > >> > > >> > god loves all hates none. > >> > > >> > he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to > >> > him alone. > >> > > >> > gopal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Dear Gopal, Thank you for your reply. I have learned a lot by this exchange of e mails. On this Earth, there is a balance of negative and positive. In fact all is ONE. We can not think of good and evil as two separate things. Because there is no Goodness if there were no Badness. War is a massage calling the return of peace. This is the law on Earth.....What can we do? We have to accept good and evil as ONE. Something good for me could be bad for you...it is relative...Now, personally I am on the positive scale. But I can not be positive if there were no negative...right? no I have to acept the negative. However, the trick is to WORK with the power of GOODNESS which is OVER evil. So, I mean goodness is at a higher level and goodness is in CONTROL of evil. This is what BSUI is. It works with the positive over evil. All is ONE. We have to dominate over evil. And yes, we can do it and we will. Let's unite. There is no separation. Allah has no religion...For Allah you are me and I am you...we just have to work harder and get stronger. Please do not look at just one incidence, do not forget the big picture. Regards, Bahar On 1/7/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > dear friend, > > > what u say is true. > > but as long as hate based ideology like monoatheism exist this is not > possible. > > look at the hate preached by zionist,crusader,islamist. > > only my imaginary deity is true ... etc... > > how to overcome it ? > > they make false claim only their imaginary deity can > give heaven if u simply bow to him,so good > deeds karma tec has no meaning. > > while truth is heaven shud be on earth bcoz after dying we dont > know what exists. > > 1 religion in particluar [ i will not name but u know ] sas that > if u kill infidels pls read q-9-05 u will get wine and virgins. > many other sura also. > > ie u will get materail pleasures in imaginary heaven. > > if u r near to god,why u will want material pleasures ?? > > is that real heaven or just another planet ?? > > till hate exists especially hate armed with weapons > we peace loevrs stand litle chance. > > i am fully with u,but confused what to do ??? > > > om shanti - peace to all > > gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Dear Friend, You have send this meassage in reply to my original mail on the programme called nature. Note that this an ongoing programme and I will continue to send you these as they become available. I am touched by your reply; therefore I will translate this message into Turkish and mail it to here. Thank you, Regards, Bahar On 1/7/09, bibhu prasad rath <bprath wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I am enclosing a talk by my Master on the eve of the new year he has urged > us to meditate with the heart, meditate on the heart, meditate on the > presence within the heart-the divine light-eschewing all other ambitions, > material or otherwise. I think everyone of us can follow it without trouble. > > regards > b.p.rath > > 1. Transcript of Master's message for 2009 > > Recorded on 31st December, 2008 at Manapakkam, India > > (also available at > http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/081131_Chennai.jsp) > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, my co-travellers, those who have joined me on > this immense, eternal journey to the goal of Sahaj Marg, who are travelling > with me in what we can call a virtual train which is being, shall we say, > driven by my divine Master Babuji Maharaj, at whose feet I am sitting now, > to give you what I consider to be my New Year Message, since in a few hours, > at least here in India, the year 2009 will gently march into our lives. > > As abhyasis of Sahaj Marg, we have to be conscious of the fact that there > should be only one goal in our human lives, and that is the goal of, first, > liberation, second, realisation, and third and final, complete merger with > the Divine. It is possible. The lower stage has evaded millions and millions > and millions of human beings throughout the history of the world. In fact, > history does not record more than a few who are supposed to have achieved > liberation. In India, the pantheon of those who have achieved this is > considerably larger and well recorded in the history of ancient India in > what are called the Vedas, the Upanishads and the Puranas. It was the > privilege of the rishis [seers] and the munis [saints], those who went away > to the forest renouncing family, friend and the worldly life, who achieved > this-many recorded; there again a large majority went unrecorded whose names > are lost forever. > > In today's world Sahaj Marg, as stated by Babuji Maharaj, is the easiest and > the quickest way to the goal of liberation. But he has also emphasised that > the subsequent goals of realisation and merger are not difficult, provided > we set our minds firmly on this single achievement in this life, which is > also the goal of human evolution and the goal of human life. > > > All that is necessary for us, dear brothers and sisters, is to put our heart > into the whole thing, meditate with the heart, meditate on the heart, > meditate on the presence within the heart-the divine light-eschewing all > other ambitions, material or otherwise, in the sure knowledge that Babuji > Maharaj has given us, that our worldly life will be at the mercy of our > samskaras that we have brought into this world. Nothing in it can be > changed. The physical cannot be changed: we cannot change in height, we > cannot change in our colour, we cannot change in our other situations such > as education, wealth, et cetera. It must be accepted that the mental changes > are more easy, while the spiritual change-that is from animal man to human > man to divine man-is the easiest of all with His help. This is my Master's > assurance. > > > On this auspicious occasion of a New Year, which is a gift by our Master to > us, because it is in fact a gift of time to us in which to fulfil our > journey. We do not realise the value of time, although we are always talking > of " I have time, " or " I have no time. " He who has no time, said my Master, > for meditation, will never have time for anything else. And he who has time > for meditation, which, after all, is just a few hours in a day, will surely, > by His grace, achieve the goal. > > > On this occasion let us all realise that whether we are working on the > committees of the Mission, or in its leadership positions, or as preceptors > and as abhyasis, we are all one solid unit which must be welded together as > a brotherhood as he desired it to be. There is no higher, there is no lower > among us. There is no senior, there is no junior among us. There is no good, > there is no bad. There is no sinner, there is no virtuous person. We are all > marching together, impeded by our samskaras, pulled in the right direction > by our beloved Master, and therefore we should, among ourselves, have > nothing against each other or for each other, but just remember we are > brothers and sisters willing to forget and forgive whatever we may see or > note in others. Let us remember the old saying that when you point a finger > at somebody, three fingers are pointed against yourself. Let us not point > fingers at others. Let us learn to forget and to forgive. > > > I know many abhyasis who have left the Mission because they could not > tolerate somebody else. I know others have left the Mission because they > could not tolerate something in the leadership. And I know many are leaving > because they cannot tolerate having various colours together in our > assemblies, in our satsanghs. We must forget and remove from our minds all > differences that are created by us, by religion, by culture, by education, > by society. And remember that which unifies all of us in this what we call > human life, is the soul that is inside us, which eternally is the same as > anybody else's soul. The body makes mistakes because of samskaras. The mind > makes mistakes because of preconceived notions and prejudices. The soul > never makes mistakes. > > > Let us therefore, brothers and sisters, learn to look only at the souls of > each other, admire what we see there, venerate them because they are part of > the divine existence and essence, and help each other in achieving the goal: > making a resolution now and forever that we shall not blame others, we shall > forgive others as we forgive ourselves. And he who cannot forgive himself > can forgive nobody else-the beginning of guilt is the inability to forgive > yourself. > > > I therefore beseech you all to make a resolution: O Master, help me to > forgive myself, and therefore through myself, forgive all others for > whatever I think or imagine they have done to me and to others, either for > or against, knowing that ultimately it is the Divine Master who is guiding > this divine play that we call human existence on earth. > > > And I pray to you, beloved Master, to grant us this privilege of rejoining > you in the brighter world as soon as possible. > > > Thank you. > > > ---------------- > > > The audio recording of Master's message can be found on the SRCM website at: > > > http://www.srcm.org/literature/audio/mp3/31Dec2008.mp3 > > > > > 2. Master's visit to Kolkata (25th to 30th December, 2008) > > Report submitted by Br. Rishabh Kothari, Kolkata > > > > Rev. Master arrived in Kolkata on 25th December 2008 evening at around 8:15 > pm by a delayed Indian Airlines flight from Chennai. Around 35+ abhyasis > accompanied Him on the flight. > > > On the 26th afternoon, Master moved out to sit in the lawn outside his > cottage and as he Master emerged to sit in the lawn, eager abhyasis gathered > around Him. The initial few minutes was the customary flurry of activities > with abhyasis coming close to Master, greeting Him, offering gifts, seeking > blessings, seeking relief from their difficult circumstances in life and so > on. Master addressed each person with His care and appeared very happy to be > in this ashram. Gradually, the crowd settled and Master was seated > majestically in the lawn, quietly looking around the ashram, into the > distant skies, with a gentle and lively smile. The air was filled with > anticipation as to what Master was going to say and it was a vintage session > from Master that followed rendered in his effortless yet conviction packed > style: > > > > a.. Talking of and enjoying the wonderful atmosphere in the Kolkata > ashram: " Each of our ashrams is an oasis of peace " . It has been exactly 5 > years since this ashram was inaugurated on The Christmas Day in December > 2003 and Master suggested that we are perhaps back here to celebrate the > anniversary of this ashram. He lamented at the need in today's world to > have to create such a special pocket where humanity is exposed to the divine > atmosphere when it should have been the type of atmosphere we should have > created on earth as a race. > > b.. Responding to a question as to why we are unable to create such a > world outside, Master said, " It is the greed for money that has robbed us of > the happiness, contentment, good health that we once enjoyed " . He ridiculed > how in today's world, we are willing to do anything for money, including > sell our daughters as in the dowry system present even in parts/pockets of > modern India. Master went on to say that it is better to be married of your > choice, even if it means a lot of struggle in one's life than to sell your > happiness to someone else! > > c.. Educating us on what it would take to understand and pursue the real > purpose of life, Master said, that even the current crisis may not do the > trick as people might not take it to heart and that only a simply led life, > potentially in 'poverty', could lead one away from the distractions of this > illusory world to the brighter world. In this context, quoting Babuji, > master said, " That is why Babuji said, 'Be simple and in tune with nature.' > You can be rich, and yet lead a simple life. " He urged us to actually > practice such a life rather than merely talk about it. > > d.. Cautioning that such a life would confer a silent, concealed happiness > and contentment not visible to the outside world as the successes and > 'spurious happiness' that people display would and said, " Here, it is each > one for himself, by himself " > > e.. Talking about developing conviction on the main pursuit of life and > the role that effective cleaning plays in removing samskaras to show the > way, Master said, " That is why in our cleaning process, it is equally > important to suggest that the vacuum being created by the removal of > grossness is being filled up with the Divine essence " . He indicated that > this often neglected aspect renders the cleaning ineffective as the vacuum > created gets filled with anything it is exposed to subsequently, including > grossness once again. > > f.. Responding to how one pursues the basic practise - that has been > outlined so clearly - assiduously, Master drew reference to Babuji and said, > " That is why Babuji said, 'Make it Yours and then you will look after it.' > Anything that is done wrongly can also be done correctly - the will has to > be applied in the appropriate way " . > > g.. Master went on to say, how we are able to pay attention to perishable > aspects of life including our bodies and should rather prioritize the > essentials of life. Quoting Babuji, he said, " That is why Babuji said, 'Live > as if you are going to die the next moment', that sense of urgency is not > there " . He clarified by asking, " If you had only one more moment to live, > what would you do? You would only do the most essential things, isn't it? > You will not be counting your coins or exercising in the tread-mill! " He > recalled the famous story of Yudhishtra in the Mahabharata, where in > response to a question as to what he found most surprising in this world, he > said, " People see each other dying but never realise that such a moment > would come to them as well! " > > h.. Emphasizing how one has to take spirituality in its entirety, and a > partial approach would not suffice, He said, " No, you cannot get like that > in spirituality. It is all or nothing. " > > i.. " Obedience is the first law in spirituality. From obedience comes > sadhana. The guru says meditate and you meditate, he says clean and you > clean, he says stay quiet and you stay quiet. But you see, people complicate > matters. " People touched his feet and drawing reference to this as a > needless act that He has discouraged, He recalled how Babuji used to say > that one who did not obey did not get anything and that one does not get > rewarded for disobedience. > > j.. Talking about the happiness that does not have a 'because' behind it, > he said, " That is the real happiness, when you are happy without reason " . > > k.. Responding to questions about His health and the fact that He was > sitting there in front of all, He said, " The only thing that is real is what > is there here and now " > > l.. Emphasizing the need to act and responding to a request by an abhyasi > to bless her with remembrance, Master said, " Blessings don't get you > remembrance, by practising remembrance you get blessings! " > > m.. He closed the session dismissing a suggestion by an abhyasis as to > whether laziness itself was a grossness by saying that this is something we > are responsible for and " Laziness is the biggest problem. " > > There were many little pleasant diversions filled with messages as abhyasis > sought blessings: > > a.. A family came by with a new-born girl and requested Master to bless > her with a name. Master looked for a while at the child, full of attention, > and came up with the name " Kshama " (forgiveness). It was beautiful and > absolutely touching. The father came running from a distance, greeting > Master and when he heard the name, he told Master (in Hindi): " All you need > to give, in this one word, you have packed Master " . > > b.. Look, there is a difference between 'Jo Kuch' (whatever) and 'Sab > Kuch' (everything): to a brother who offered a sweet to Master that he > himself did not know the details about that prompted Master to ask him " Oh > whatever it is, you want to offer to me " and then said the above with a very > deliberate countenance and subsequently felt rather satisfied that timely > comments seem to descend to Him from somewhere, He knows not! > > c.. " How are you able to remember a movie 50 days after the event " to an > abhyasi who asked Him why it was hard to retain His remembrance after the > times when one is physically with Him in the ashram. > > d.. " Mukti is not available in temples and scriptures but rests in the > hands of a capable spiritual guide " : A superb assertion that Master made > when an abhyasi stepped forward and sought His blessings saying that he had > a special request that he wanted his liberation only through Master and not > anywhere else. Master responded acknowledging this and at the same time > wondering where else Mukti was anyway available other than through a > spiritual guide! > > e.. " Which Krishna?! " : A brilliant witty response to a little boy who > said, " I want to see Krishna with you " to which Master responded as above. > The little boy meant, a movie titled 'Krishna'. > > > On the 29th morning, Master woke up early in the morning preparing Himself > for the auspicious day ahead when He was going to lay the foundation stone > for CREST at Kharagpur, the second campus after Bangalore in India. Master > proceeded at around 7am or so and was followed by a convoy of around 35-40 > cars or so; in addition, 6 buses had already left early in the morning from > Kolkata for the Kharagpur site. > > Master reached the site around 9:30 am or so and soon took a tour around the > 5 acre facility. While the facility is in early stages of development, the > lovely little lawn and greenery already suggest that another Master-piece is > in the making! As Master walked around the campus, inspecting it, he used > humour and direct instruction to steer the crowds away from following Him in > masses by saying, " Follow me spiritually, not otherwise " and a little while > later, " You see, there are 25 people following me just to tell others to > stay away " (laughter). > > > The original plan was to lay the foundation stone and then proceed for > satsang but Master is never short of surprises as He moved to the meditation > hall. Master conducted a 40 min satsang after which He gave a superb talk, > full of His contagious enthusiasm, fire, conviction and of course His divine > blessings. Some highlights include: > > > > a.. Appreciating that many people had actually made the time to attend the > auspicious occasion and indicating that a lack of time for a particular > activity is nothing but a lack of inclination and will directed to a > particular activity, Master said: " Time does not get us time " . It was a rare > occasion when all the five trustees (Br. Ajay Bhatter, Br. Sanjay Lalbhai, > Br. P. R. Krishna, Br. R. P. Uma Shankar and Master Himself) were present > for an event and Master was quite pleased with this, explicitly mentioning > this in His talk and subsequently, even taking a photo with the trustees > outside His resting area. > > b.. Continuing on the same note and awakening us to the right > interpretation of duty/responsibility, Master said, " Our responsibility to > our 'self' (the heart) is far greater than any other responsibility on this > earth. " To clarify and re-emphasize this, He talked about how even our > responsibility to our respective families has its limits and is subservient > to this higher responsibility; naturally, our material welfare He said, is > only a means to help us on our spiritual journey and should be limited to > that role. He said that our getting married and having children is to > propagate the human race and give another soul an opportunity to spiritually > evolve and reach its destination through this life; hence the first child is > called 'Dharmaja' (born out of duty to society) while subsequent progeny are > called 'Kamaja' (born out of desire). > > c.. Talking about the Purusharthas (the goals of human life as enjoined in > sanatana dharma - dharma, artha, kama and moksha) and clarifying the limited > role of religion in this, Master in no uncertain terms asserted, " Hindusim > or Religion is not our dharma, they are meant to only help us along the > way " ; continuing on the futility of worshipping Gods, observing rituals etc > when a higher spiritual approach was available, He clarified, " That is why > Babuji called the Gods, mere functionaries of nature; they are MERE > functionaries " . To provide the final stamp of authority on the limited role > of religion, Master said, " That is why Babuji said, God has no religion and > religion has no God " and with a stroke of his hand (from left-to-right, > sweeping his right hand, forefinger out), re-asserted, " No religion! " For > this statement to serve as a permanent reminder, he even suggested that > people stick this up on top of their mirror so that they may see this > everyday while adorning themselves! > > d.. He therefore, emphasised the need to place our loyalties carefully, > and said, " In spirituality, loyalty and faith are two very important > aspects " , to be placed thoughtfully, in the right things. He talked about > our typical misplaced loyalties in everything unreliable - politics, corrupt > political leaders, bosses in our official life, our caste/religion. > > e.. Confirming the all embracing role that spirituality plays in ennobling > one's life, He said and transmitted His conviction, " Spirituality is the one > thing that integrates all of life by clarifying and purifying our > conscience " . He said that how such a person with a political conscience > awakened by spirituality acts without prejudice but with the best of all in > mind. > > f.. Master then compared and contrasted the role of this CREST facility > with that of Bangalore. He said that like in the Bangalore facility, this > too will have lectures and discussions on comparative religion, with the > idea of creating a shared understanding of the foundational role that > religion plays; he added, " Religion has a foundational role to play but like > all good foundations, it should not be seen and should be submerged. > Religion has no business to be visible in our lives! " He went on to say that > this CREST will place a special emphasis on 'Ethics and Morality' and > clarified that morality is a much broader term than the limited way in which > we typically understand it, especially in India, to mean non-adultery alone! > > g.. Continuing on this topic and educating us that 'fear of punishment' > should hardly be the driving force in human life, Master said, " We do not > want God fearing people, but want God loving people. " Master amplified by > saying that no father would like to see his children grovelling before him > but would instead want them to come to him with their head held up high in > the understanding that they are children of such a father, " We should be > proud to be children of such a father, not because 'I am something', for the > 'I' has no place in spirituality " . > > h.. Explaining therefore that when the pride is over such a Father who > unites us all, the question of good or bad in individuals becomes irrelevant > and the need for variety is on the other hand critical, Master said, " The > spectrum is required to have white light and in the same way, the external > variety is unified through spirituality where the essence is common to all. " > Re-emphasising the need for love to appreciate this, he said, " So we should > look upon people not with mercy or compassion - let us leave that to > religions - but with Love. " He recalled the famous saying of Vivekananda and > delivered it with perhaps the same fervour of this patron saint of Sahaj > Marg by saying, " Do not scorn at these fallen sisters of ours for if they > were not there, you, you and you would be there (finger pointing with each > you!) " Through these inspiring statements Master equalised all of existence. > > i.. Master then outlined how Sahaj Marg has grown organically, > brick-by-brick, person-by-person and mentioned that it hardly mattered if > there was only one person in a place as long as the person had the fire in > the heart. Like a patient father, He explained, suddenly lowering his voice > to a very gentle tone, as if whispering in the ear of a child falling > asleep, " When it very dark., one candle is enough to dispel the darkness. " > He explained Babuji's beautiful, wisdom-packed response to questions that > were asked of him as to why in the early days of the Mission, there were > barely 3-4 abhyasis even in Shahjahanpur despite Babuji's own physical > presence there, " Below the lamp, there is darkness " (a hindi quote) and then > with all his energy, conviction, and infectious fervour, he dismissed the > old English saying about one swallow not making a summer and instead roared, > " One swallow DOES make a summer " , waving his hand and filling our hearts > with His own courage and faith. > > > As always, with all His care and sincerity, He invoked Babuji's blessings, > distributing it to all unconditionally and encouraged worry about the past > but use the present to build the future! > > It was a truly breath-taking, stunning talk apt for the occasion, delivered > effortlessly, delivered with enthusiasm, delivered with the courage of a > person willing to walk the journey 'alone' if required and delivered in His > brilliant charming, style that makes Him the Master that He is! > > After lunch Rev. Master proceeded back for Kolkata and took a flight for > Chennai the next afternoon accompanied by almost 40-50 abhyasis. > > Some photographs taken during this period can be seen at: > > http://srcm.info/gallery2/v/sahajsandesh/2008/kolkata-kharagpur-dec08/ > > > > > - > gopal narayan > > Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:07 PM > :SPAM: Re: Programme: Nature > > > dear friend, > > what u say is true. > > but as long as hate based ideology like monoatheism exist this is not > possible. > > look at the hate preached by zionist,crusader,islamist. > > only my imaginary deity is true ... etc... > > how to overcome it ? > > they make false claim only their imaginary deity can > give heaven if u simply bow to him,so good > deeds karma tec has no meaning. > > while truth is heaven shud be on earth bcoz after dying we dont > know what exists. > > 1 religion in particluar [ i will not name but u know ] sas that > if u kill infidels pls read q-9-05 u will get wine and virgins. > many other sura also. > > ie u will get materail pleasures in imaginary heaven. > > if u r near to god,why u will want material pleasures ?? > > is that real heaven or just another planet ?? > > till hate exists especially hate armed with weapons > we peace loevrs stand litle chance. > > i am fully with u,but confused what to do ??? > > om shanti - peace to all > > gopal > > On 1/7/09, bahar umur <baharumur wrote: > > > > Dear Gopal, > > > > You are right to ask me that but I did not want to change the word. > > Translation is not easy and sometimes there is a loss of meaning. > > > > BSUI is a new standard for a better and a higher conciousness of human > > beings. It stands for PEACE, LOVE, HAPPINESS AND HUMAN in Turkish. So > > human race is changing now and it is changing into a higher level. > > There is a new and high conciousness of humans on Earth....the seeds > > are being planted now. It is the UNIFIED conciousness which does that. > > The seeds are planted to each and everyone. > > > > BSUI creates heavens on Earth. Whoever works for humanity with the > > Family of ONE works under the control of BSUI codes. In fact, this is > > the reason for setting up our association here in Türkiye; to create > > BSUI. > > > > Regards, > > > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, gopal narayan > > >> <gopalnarayan123 <gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > > <gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > all religion r man created. > > >> > > > >> > god loves all hates none. > > >> > > > >> > he nevers puts anyone in hell bcoz he does not bow to > > >> > him alone. > > >> > > > >> > gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Dear Narayan, BSUI - Baris, Sevgi, Umhut, Insanlik = Peace, love, hope, Humanity Rajagopalan C V Trichy India --- On Tue, 1/6/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 Re: Programme: Nature Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:32 PM what is bsui ? gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Dear Gopal, It is true that " Religions have no God & God has no religion " . All religions were made by man and the religious codes were formulated by man so these codes can be wrong and should be open to scrutiny.All religions used fear and greed to propagate that is why this idea of putting in hell came to our mind. All religions encouraged people to think about God but only in a limited way.Those who dared to think about God differently were ostracised as heretic. The saints and sufis always lived far away from society to escape persecution. God is truely without form and attribute while we in india have given numerous anthropomorphic forms to God others have bestowed him with attributes (rehman, all merciful). Religion creates a time and space bound concept of divinity the logical expansion of which is the real concept ,all pervasive , always present in everything and every being. Religion is the kindergarten of spirituality. It is the responsibility of every student to graduate in to a higher level of education similarly it is the responsibility of all human beings to rise above the limited religious concept to the spiritual concept of divinity. The religious man says God is in my temple, church or mosque.The scientific mind says He is there every where.The spiritual mind says he is essentially in my heart.I think the only practical approach to God is to seek him within in our heart.In God's creation there is no other hell if it is there any where it is in the human mind where hatred is growing like wildfire. We are all a natural brotherhood as children of God. b.p.rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Dear Trichy, Exactly right. But how do you know this? Do you speak Turkish? Please let me know where you heard it from. Regards, Bahar On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, raja gopalan <rajagopalancv2003wrote: > Dear Narayan, > > BSUI - Baris, Sevgi, Umhut, Insanlik = Peace, love, hope, Humanity > > Rajagopalan C V > Trichy > India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 god has no 1 form,bcoz all form r him.v r also part of god=nature. we r not created from mud/dirt as per some religious book. but proven to be evoled by nature=god. gopal On 1/8/09, bibhu prasad rath <bprath wrote: > > Dear Gopal, > > It is true that " Religions have no God & God has no religion " . > > All religions were made by man and the religious codes were formulated by > man so these codes can be wrong and should be open to scrutiny.All religions > used fear and greed to propagate that is why this idea of putting in hell > came to our mind. All religions encouraged people to think about God but > only in a limited way.Those who dared to think about God differently were > ostracised as heretic. The saints and sufis always lived far away from > society to escape persecution. > > God is truely without form and attribute while we in india have given > numerous anthropomorphic forms to God others have bestowed him with > attributes (rehman, all merciful). > > Religion creates a time and space bound concept of divinity the logical > expansion of which is the real concept ,all pervasive , always present in > everything and every being. > > Religion is the kindergarten of spirituality. It is the responsibility of > every student to graduate in to a higher level of education similarly it is > the responsibility of all human beings to rise above the limited religious > concept to the spiritual concept of divinity. > > The religious man says God is in my temple, church or mosque.The scientific > mind says He is there every where.The spiritual mind says he is essentially > in my heart.I think the only practical approach to God is to seek him within > in our heart.In God's creation there is no other hell if it is there any > where it is in the human mind where hatred is growing like wildfire. > > We are all a natural brotherhood as children of God. > > b.p.rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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