Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Dear Members, Normally I leave most of the 'event-handling' to Subramanyam Garu as his administration is able and divine. He has however asked me this time to chip in to post some more information (as he feels I being the Group owner should take some onus to explain some to the public) on the subject. In deference to his request Im typing this posting to enable an easier collection of the needed amount (still around Rs.1 lac is needed).Subramanyam Garu told me over phone that he would be contributing from his own pocket the needed amount but I would not like that. A divine man should not be troubled excessively, especially when he is short of money and goes out of the way by taking loans to get divine work done.And especially so many helpful Datta-Janas are here in the forum. First, I request Shirdi Sai Baba devotees who abound our group to also contribute generously for this cause. There is an interesting book by S.P.Ruhela(Satya Pal Ruhelaji) written on Shirdi Sai Baba called "What Researchers say on Sri Shirdi Sai Baba" written a while ago, wherein in pg 66 he has mentioned that Baba apart from constantly telling "Allah Malik" also used to tell "Dattatreya Malik" and this fact was not highlighted by the over-enthusiastic people who propogandized his cult.(People try to take umbrage of 'fetishes' and 'stunts' and negate the real and true aspects of any saint).This being so, He had high regard for Lord Dattatreyta and belonged to the Natha-Panthi(whose leader is none other than Dattatreya). Im sure if we were in his time and I say these He would have objected to use his name to garner funds for Lord Dattatreya as He was then called 'Datta-Avatar' and gained credence and acceptance as a multi-faith saint. But the wheel has turned a full circle, now He is more popular than the Lord and thus His name is being used to collect funds for this small project of ours as 'Udatha-Bhakthi'(Squirrel's devotion to Lord Rama while building the Sethu bridge). Second, this Gurucharitra(Dwisahasri) is a beautiful composition oiriginally written by Swami Vasudevananda Saraswathi(also called Tembe Swami) in Sanskrit. Vasudevananda Saraswathy/Tembe Swami. (This saint lived during the time of Shirdi Sai Baba and even gave Baba a coconut through a common devotee as a spiritual gift.Please note that Baba used to refer to Him as "elder brother'.So I request all Baba devotees once again to help His ''elder brother'') This is the first major composition of Tembe Swami and was compiled( 1889- completed in 12 days even while He was a householder) at command of Lord Dattatreya, while Swamiji was still a householder. It is a free but compact & precise rendering of the Marathi Gurucharitra, the Holy Writ of the Datta tradition. When it was completed, which took less than two weeks, Shri Swami Maharaj heard the words "Sanhitaiyam dwisahasri" meaning this text is(has) two thousand verse(s). On actually counting the stanzas, Shri Maharaj found the total substantially less than 2000. After some thinking, when he recounted the verses, including "Uwach" mantras and half mantras, as is done for the Havan of sacred texts like Durga Saptashati, the total was 2008. Thus this scripture came to be named by Lord Dattatreya Himself.(This is the unique aspect:So, Please consider that we(Subramanyam Garu and myself) are being directed by the Lord Himself for commisioning this work in a Telugu transliterated and translated form with Telugu commentary) Fifteen years later, Shri Swami Maharaj was instructed by Shri Datta Prabhu to write the commentary to this holy work when he was not having even the original text with him. (Anagha Sametha Dattatreya idol in Peethapuram,Andhrapradesh,India) From the above, please infer that Lord Dattatreya would be very happy if this work is seen to fruition and one gets His etheric blessings wherever they might be. This is a form of ‘Yagnam’ which we are doing. We are giving a gross form to the hidden and arcane spiritual knowledge in the form of books in vernacular languages and also slowly in English (by me) so that people in posterity would benefit. Patrons like you must support this Vidya Yagnam and this would immensely please the Lord. Third,this grantha can be used as a Parayana grantha too and is sanctioned by the Lord Himself thus! The book was translated by Shree Pandavulu garu and now is editing by SHREE G.V.L.N VIDYA SAGARA SHARMA GARU(who is none other than Vishwa Guru Vishwamji's elder brother and a great Dattatreya Upasaka and a littérateur). Another unique aspect of this book is that it also contains the Yogarahasya and Bodharahasya, which was given by Shree Dattaguru Himself. Many devotees of Lord Dattatreya regularly read this sacred tome and some even conduct Havans too. Following is the mode of Saptah (7-day sacramental reading) of this scripture. Having performed the Sankalpa on an auspicious day and having performed the initial worship one should read the chapters in the following sequence. One must observe the rules of purity and chastity during this period: Day Chapters 1 1-4 2 5-9 3 10-14 4 15-17 5 18-19 6 20-21 7 22-23 After the 23rd chapter on 7th day one should read the two Rahasyas, Yogarahasya and Bodharahasya and perform the valedictory worship and dedicate the sacrament to the Lord Finally, this is the first time such an effort is being done for the benefit of Telugu Datta devotees.So, please make use of this sacred opportunity.This does not mean that devotees of other states should not contribute to this sacred assay because Datta-Marga is something not confined to just Maharshtra,Karnataka and Andhrapradesh but to the whole world.Infact Datta would be more pleased if His devotees crosses the language barrier and helps for His sake the message to be spread. May the saints of this Holy Marga shower us with Gnana,Vairagya and Vinaya. ll Jayagurudeva Datta ll Yours Yogically, Shreeram Balijepalli Contact (Sri Subrahmanyam Bharathula Garu) immediately at +91 9246463846 or at +91 9440820130. Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... Click to join Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Dear Chiranjeevi Shreeram, Sai Ram. Jai Guru Datta. No problem in the discussion. As I said, it really does not matter whether Sai called Tembe Swami or Tembe Swami called Sai as His Bhau. The story in English version, which was translated from Marathi by a Maratha (Shri Vasudev Gunaji) mentions Shri Tembe Swami turning towards Shirdi and bowing to Sri Sai Baba and referring to Him as Elder Brother and asking the devotee to tell Sai to remember and take care of His brother. So, it is not just one word but the whole story that caused me to think the way I did. When a Saint becomes One with God, where is the question of relationships, except that every one is One with the One? Many times, elders address youngers with senior titles out of affection. Thus an younger brother is addressed as Anna (Anna Phalguna Bhakta Vatsaludu...I am sure you know that poem from Maha Bharatam where Shri Yudhistir asks his younger brother Arjuna about the welfare of Sri Krishna when Arjuna returned from Dwaraka after Sri Krishna left His mortal body). Father addresses the daughter as Amma (remembering his own mother and seeing the Divine Mother in the child). I am not disturbed or offended at all by your correction. This gives an opportunity to share. Let us hope all Sai devotees and devotees of other Gods and Gurus come forward with devotion to help the project. I read the Telugu book on the life of Shri Vasudevananda Saraswati (Tembe Swami) a few years ago and loved that book. I also read the translation by Shri Narayana Rao garu of Shri Swami's Sanskrit Guru Charitra. I am thus a fan of Shri Swami. I also love the Datta Stotram composed by Swami and rendered so nicely by Sri Ganapathi Satchidananda Swami. Blessings to you in your path. May the Divine Mother and may the Guru continue to bless you and guide you on your path. I remember fondly even now how the Divine Mother blessed both of us (you and me) when we were discussing rather hotly some point in Shri Subrahmanyam's post a few years ago. Thanks to my invoking Her name, She ensured that I could hear Her Sahasra Nama Stotram several times at Ganagapur when I went there to take a bath on account of Pushkaram. When two stones rub against each other, both get polished. So, egos get refined when arguments on good subjects take place. Sai Ram. Blessings again. Swamy --- On Sun, 11/30/08, para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > para_anuloma <para_anuloma > [Datta-Yoga] Re: Samhitayana Dwisaahasri > Datta-Yoga > Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:35 AM > Dear Swamy Garu, > > I appreciate your trying to correct me promptly (true to > your ID's name > 'truthseeker').I'm open to correction as no one > is perfect.I thankyou > for taking the time out despite your age to type the email > in response > to my posting and last but not the least for your actual > monetary > contribution for the sacred cause. > > However, I still humbly 'stick'(with Baba's and > your entreated permission) to what I have > said because it was Shirdi Sai Baba who used to refer Tembe > Swamiji as > " Bhau " and " Majhila Badila Bhai " in > Marathi variously(as was stated in > the original Marathi ovi meter rendering of > Sai-Sat-charita-Chapter > 51.The coconut though sent by Tembe Swami was not received > by Baba.Well, > that is another story altogether.This incident occured in > 1908). I'm > sure you must have the reference of a translated and edited > Telugu, > Hindi or English version, where some well-intended yet over > zealous > translators out of admiration for Baba and also looking at > chronologicality of things(Saints operate purely on > one's divinity not > on one's physical age is my humble take) might have > stated thus. > > In Marathi(one of the languages spoekn by Baba) > " Bhau " has the popular > meaning of " elder brother " and this connotes > Baba's humility and > greatness despite being an avathara purusha and ascribing > the status of > " Bhau " to Vasudevananda Saraswathyji. > > Hande Nalker states in yet another account that Baba > addressed thus > because Tembe Swami was in one of His previous births > His(Baba's) elder > brother by blood.This too is believable given Baba's > penchant for > relating people by past births. > > However, I think this disussion is purely foolish by me as > my > Mandha-mathi(dull wit) which tries to 'correct' an > elerly person like > you, my sole refuge being 'revealing the truth behind > things' as is > wont by people in Baba-panthi.(Baba's quote: 'We > will not spare even our > children when it comes to matters of truth and dharma) > > Also, Baba might say: Tembe Swami is my Bhau and > > Tembe Swami might say : " Oh no! Baba is my Bhau " > > I think when they both might very well say thus, then my > counter-argument on the basis of factual realties and > references will > prove futile and childish.The main intent of my statement > being Baba > would have been happy if somone respected Tembe Swami or > published His > Dwi-Sahasri. > > I thankyou whole-heartedly for bringing out some stories of > Baba and > Datta connection and also the point regarding > 'Gupt-daan'. > > Thankyou for your continued patronage and you should bless > all aspiring > youngsters like us for marching forth with spiritual zeal > and Upasana > like you.If I spoken anything in 'negative-excess' > please kindly excuse > it as a blabbering of an overly enthuiastic kid on the > block trying to > do something.Always a correction or argument leaves a > distaste in my mind and though truth is instilled and > argument won, the battle on a human front is lost by the > argument. > > Again, I need blessings of elders like you to navigate my > spiritual path > with ease.I might also be perfectly wrong in my above > correction of your assertion and stand to test boldly as it > is Baba's prasad to keep me humble. > > Humbly yours, > > Shreeram Balijepalli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Dear Sir, Thankyou very much for your blessings. I also take this opportunity to request members to be more liberal in their contributions for this cause.Only a few have responded to this divine cause.I entreat all Datta-brothers and sisters to chip in and help to see this book published. Thankyou Shreeram Datta-Yoga , Swarna Venkateswara Swamy <truthseeker123x wrote: > > Dear Chiranjeevi Shreeram, > > Sai Ram. Jai Guru Datta. No problem in the discussion. As I said, it really does not matter whether Sai called Tembe Swami or Tembe Swami called Sai as His Bhau. The story in English version, which was translated from Marathi by a Maratha (Shri Vasudev Gunaji) mentions Shri Tembe Swami turning towards Shirdi and bowing to Sri Sai Baba and referring to Him as Elder Brother and asking the devotee to tell Sai to remember and take care of His brother. So, it is not just one word but the whole story that caused me to think the way I did. > > When a Saint becomes One with God, where is the question of relationships, except that every one is One with the One? > > Many times, elders address youngers with senior titles out of affection. Thus an younger brother is addressed as Anna (Anna Phalguna Bhakta Vatsaludu...I am sure you know that poem from Maha Bharatam where Shri Yudhistir asks his younger brother Arjuna about the welfare of Sri Krishna when Arjuna returned from Dwaraka after Sri Krishna left His mortal body). > > Father addresses the daughter as Amma (remembering his own mother and seeing the Divine Mother in the child). > > I am not disturbed or offended at all by your correction. This gives an opportunity to share. > > Let us hope all Sai devotees and devotees of other Gods and Gurus come forward with devotion to help the project. I read the Telugu book on the life of Shri Vasudevananda Saraswati (Tembe Swami) a few years ago and loved that book. I also read the translation by Shri Narayana Rao garu of Shri Swami's Sanskrit Guru Charitra. I am thus a fan of Shri Swami. I also love the Datta Stotram composed by Swami and rendered so nicely by Sri Ganapathi Satchidananda Swami. > > Blessings to you in your path. May the Divine Mother and may the Guru continue to bless you and guide you on your path. I remember fondly even now how the Divine Mother blessed both of us (you and me) when we were discussing rather hotly some point in Shri Subrahmanyam's post a few years ago. Thanks to my invoking Her name, She ensured that I could hear Her Sahasra Nama Stotram several times at Ganagapur when I went there to take a bath on account of Pushkaram. > > When two stones rub against each other, both get polished. So, egos get refined when arguments on good subjects take place. Sai Ram. > > Blessings again. > > Swamy > > > > --- On Sun, 11/30/08, para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma > > [Datta-Yoga] Re: Samhitayana Dwisaahasri > > Datta-Yoga > > Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:35 AM > > Dear Swamy Garu, > > > > I appreciate your trying to correct me promptly (true to > > your ID's name > > 'truthseeker').I'm open to correction as no one > > is perfect.I thankyou > > for taking the time out despite your age to type the email > > in response > > to my posting and last but not the least for your actual > > monetary > > contribution for the sacred cause. > > > > However, I still humbly 'stick'(with Baba's and > > your entreated permission) to what I have > > said because it was Shirdi Sai Baba who used to refer Tembe > > Swamiji as > > " Bhau " and " Majhila Badila Bhai " in > > Marathi variously(as was stated in > > the original Marathi ovi meter rendering of > > Sai-Sat-charita-Chapter > > 51.The coconut though sent by Tembe Swami was not received > > by Baba.Well, > > that is another story altogether.This incident occured in > > 1908). I'm > > sure you must have the reference of a translated and edited > > Telugu, > > Hindi or English version, where some well-intended yet over > > zealous > > translators out of admiration for Baba and also looking at > > chronologicality of things(Saints operate purely on > > one's divinity not > > on one's physical age is my humble take) might have > > stated thus. > > > > In Marathi(one of the languages spoekn by Baba) > > " Bhau " has the popular > > meaning of " elder brother " and this connotes > > Baba's humility and > > greatness despite being an avathara purusha and ascribing > > the status of > > " Bhau " to Vasudevananda Saraswathyji. > > > > Hande Nalker states in yet another account that Baba > > addressed thus > > because Tembe Swami was in one of His previous births > > His(Baba's) elder > > brother by blood.This too is believable given Baba's > > penchant for > > relating people by past births. > > > > However, I think this disussion is purely foolish by me as > > my > > Mandha-mathi(dull wit) which tries to 'correct' an > > elerly person like > > you, my sole refuge being 'revealing the truth behind > > things' as is > > wont by people in Baba-panthi.(Baba's quote: 'We > > will not spare even our > > children when it comes to matters of truth and dharma) > > > > Also, Baba might say: Tembe Swami is my Bhau and > > > > Tembe Swami might say : " Oh no! Baba is my Bhau " > > > > I think when they both might very well say thus, then my > > counter-argument on the basis of factual realties and > > references will > > prove futile and childish.The main intent of my statement > > being Baba > > would have been happy if somone respected Tembe Swami or > > published His > > Dwi-Sahasri. > > > > I thankyou whole-heartedly for bringing out some stories of > > Baba and > > Datta connection and also the point regarding > > 'Gupt-daan'. > > > > Thankyou for your continued patronage and you should bless > > all aspiring > > youngsters like us for marching forth with spiritual zeal > > and Upasana > > like you.If I spoken anything in 'negative-excess' > > please kindly excuse > > it as a blabbering of an overly enthuiastic kid on the > > block trying to > > do something.Always a correction or argument leaves a > > distaste in my mind and though truth is instilled and > > argument won, the battle on a human front is lost by the > > argument. > > > > Again, I need blessings of elders like you to navigate my > > spiritual path > > with ease.I might also be perfectly wrong in my above > > correction of your assertion and stand to test boldly as it > > is Baba's prasad to keep me humble. > > > > Humbly yours, > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 what is the fastest way to donate ?--- On Sun, 12/7/08, para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote:para_anuloma <para_anuloma[Datta-Yoga] Re: Samhitayana DwisaahasriDatta-Yoga Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 7:19 AM Dear Sir, Thankyou very much for your blessings. I also take this opportunity to request members to be more liberal in their contributions for this cause.Only a few have responded to this divine cause.I entreat all Datta-brothers and sisters to chip in and help to see this book published. Thankyou Shreeram Datta-Yoga@gro ups.com, Swarna Venkateswara Swamy <truthseeker123x@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Chiranjeevi Shreeram, > > Sai Ram. Jai Guru Datta. No problem in the discussion. As I said, it really does not matter whether Sai called Tembe Swami or Tembe Swami called Sai as His Bhau. The story in English version, which was translated from Marathi by a Maratha (Shri Vasudev Gunaji) mentions Shri Tembe Swami turning towards Shirdi and bowing to Sri Sai Baba and referring to Him as Elder Brother and asking the devotee to tell Sai to remember and take care of His brother. So, it is not just one word but the whole story that caused me to think the way I did. > > When a Saint becomes One with God, where is the question of relationships, except that every one is One with the One? > > Many times, elders address youngers with senior titles out of affection. Thus an younger brother is addressed as Anna (Anna Phalguna Bhakta Vatsaludu... I am sure you know that poem from Maha Bharatam where Shri Yudhistir asks his younger brother Arjuna about the welfare of Sri Krishna when Arjuna returned from Dwaraka after Sri Krishna left His mortal body). > > Father addresses the daughter as Amma (remembering his own mother and seeing the Divine Mother in the child). > > I am not disturbed or offended at all by your correction. This gives an opportunity to share. > > Let us hope all Sai devotees and devotees of other Gods and Gurus come forward with devotion to help the project. I read the Telugu book on the life of Shri Vasudevananda Saraswati (Tembe Swami) a few years ago and loved that book. I also read the translation by Shri Narayana Rao garu of Shri Swami's Sanskrit Guru Charitra. I am thus a fan of Shri Swami. I also love the Datta Stotram composed by Swami and rendered so nicely by Sri Ganapathi Satchidananda Swami. > > Blessings to you in your path. May the Divine Mother and may the Guru continue to bless you and guide you on your path. I remember fondly even now how the Divine Mother blessed both of us (you and me) when we were discussing rather hotly some point in Shri Subrahmanyam' s post a few years ago. Thanks to my invoking Her name, She ensured that I could hear Her Sahasra Nama Stotram several times at Ganagapur when I went there to take a bath on account of Pushkaram. > > When two stones rub against each other, both get polished. So, egos get refined when arguments on good subjects take place. Sai Ram. > > Blessings again. > > Swamy > > > > --- On Sun, 11/30/08, para_anuloma <para_anuloma@ ...> wrote: > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@ ...> > > [Datta-Yoga] Re: Samhitayana Dwisaahasri > > Datta-Yoga@gro ups.com > > Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:35 AM > > Dear Swamy Garu, > > > > I appreciate your trying to correct me promptly (true to > > your ID's name > > 'truthseeker' ).I'm open to correction as no one > > is perfect.I thankyou > > for taking the time out despite your age to type the email > > in response > > to my posting and last but not the least for your actual > > monetary > > contribution for the sacred cause. > > > > However, I still humbly 'stick'(with Baba's and > > your entreated permission) to what I have > > said because it was Shirdi Sai Baba who used to refer Tembe > > Swamiji as > > "Bhau" and "Majhila Badila Bhai" in > > Marathi variously(as was stated in > > the original Marathi ovi meter rendering of > > Sai-Sat-charita- Chapter > > 51.The coconut though sent by Tembe Swami was not received > > by Baba.Well, > > that is another story altogether.This incident occured in > > 1908). I'm > > sure you must have the reference of a translated and edited > > Telugu, > > Hindi or English version, where some well-intended yet over > > zealous > > translators out of admiration for Baba and also looking at > > chronologicality of things(Saints operate purely on > > one's divinity not > > on one's physical age is my humble take) might have > > stated thus. > > > > In Marathi(one of the languages spoekn by Baba) > > "Bhau" has the popular > > meaning of "elder brother" and this connotes > > Baba's humility and > > greatness despite being an avathara purusha and ascribing > > the status of > > "Bhau" to Vasudevananda Saraswathyji. > > > > Hande Nalker states in yet another account that Baba > > addressed thus > > because Tembe Swami was in one of His previous births > > His(Baba's) elder > > brother by blood.This too is believable given Baba's > > penchant for > > relating people by past births. > > > > However, I think this disussion is purely foolish by me as > > my > > Mandha-mathi( dull wit) which tries to 'correct' an > > elerly person like > > you, my sole refuge being 'revealing the truth behind > > things' as is > > wont by people in Baba-panthi. (Baba's quote: 'We > > will not spare even our > > children when it comes to matters of truth and dharma) > > > > Also, Baba might say: Tembe Swami is my Bhau and > > > > Tembe Swami might say :"Oh no! Baba is my Bhau" > > > > I think when they both might very well say thus, then my > > counter-argument on the basis of factual realties and > > references will > > prove futile and childish.The main intent of my statement > > being Baba > > would have been happy if somone respected Tembe Swami or > > published His > > Dwi-Sahasri. > > > > I thankyou whole-heartedly for bringing out some stories of > > Baba and > > Datta connection and also the point regarding > > 'Gupt-daan'. > > > > Thankyou for your continued patronage and you should bless > > all aspiring > > youngsters like us for marching forth with spiritual zeal > > and Upasana > > like you.If I spoken anything in 'negative-excess' > > please kindly excuse > > it as a blabbering of an overly enthuiastic kid on the > > block trying to > > do something.Always a correction or argument leaves a > > distaste in my mind and though truth is instilled and > > argument won, the battle on a human front is lost by the > > argument. > > > > Again, I need blessings of elders like you to navigate my > > spiritual path > > with ease.I might also be perfectly wrong in my above > > correction of your assertion and stand to test boldly as it > > is Baba's prasad to keep me humble. > > > > Humbly yours, > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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