Re :Aghori videos

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Dear all,I am a member for sometime of this group and I have a only posted once or twice.Since this subject of different forms of worship some bordering on extreme modes has come up I thought I can also share my views on this.The apparent conflict of judging such extreme or different modes of worship,food habits etc. arise out of the position in which we are judging the matter.Obviously to the enlightened soul all matter is made. up of panchaboothas viz.air,water,earth,space and fire.We perceive the apparent while for the enlightened the sukshma of the apparent is clear.There are very many stories about the apparent transformation of matter in our puranas,Guru Charithra,etc.Even the Annapoorna siddhi mentioned in Guru Charithra is one of them where the limited food is made limitless by the Swami Sri Narasimha Saraswati.in the akshya pathra story Once it was said that the Adi Guru Adi Sankaracharya was travelling with his shishyas and on the way a man was brewing liqour and Adi Shankaracharya took a gulp of the liquour which prompted one shishya to say if the Guru is having liquour why should we not have the same.One of the older shishyas told hiim to be patient and wait for some time for he shall get an answer soon.As they were proceeding they came across a blacksmith melting hot iron and Adi Sankaracharya took a gulp of the molten hot iron.The older shishya told the other shishya If you can drink this meaning molten hot iron you can drink the other one also meaning liquour. Just like beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder spirtuality lies in the heart of the perceiver.Spiritually yoursG.Karthikeyan.. On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:26:52 -0000 Smarthrugaami-Dattavaibhavam wroteDear Dhruvji,Truth remains the same whether it is accepted or not.Why do they leave fruits,grass,trees,grains and choose the horrible?They would like to lose their ghrina(disgust), which you have, for suchuncouth objects. If God, exists in all and everything, then why shouldne hypocritical about such objects and not even see them or touch them.This is their reasoning. They do it under the guidance of a Guru toovercome Ghrina in them. Every reseration you have, will become ahindrance to God.When you cannot even accept what is written in a "Satwica purana" likeVishnu purana then I do not expect you to accept what you have seen orread remotely about Aghora. Their very nature, I repeat, is to do thingsdetested by ordinary society, and their path to God is unique.You call youself a "pipeelika"(ant) but don't you recognize that Godexists "Pipeelikaadibrahma paryantham"?This e-mail you pass your judgement on even Lord Dattatreya and that youare not able to accept what He is doing.(As also Lord Shiva and VishnuPurana). So, will mere Ramanath Aghori living in the banks of Gangesstand before you? Tell me!(Hehe)Anyways, meditate, pray and be devoted with whatever little you know.The more you practice whatever you know, the more you will know what topractice. Because, God sees your true intentions and your heart & soul,nothing else.Please do not feel bad, if I have spoken anything "out-of-limits". Maybemoving with such "uncouth aghoris" I too have become hard in mylanguage!Paramaathmike'!!Shreeram BalijepalliSmarthrugaami-Dattavaibhavam , Dhruvwrote:>> Dear Shreeramji,>> I adapt what you said! But I don't understand one thing is that whenthey've grass, fruits, trees, grains why they leave that and choose toeat meat, dead bodies etc.!!!???>> I have read a bit of Vishnu Puran as well, I was reading through andwhere I found same thing of present Naivaidhya of Meat toPitrus(Ancestors) I again left that to read further.>> It is true people like me who knows nothing about spiritual paths andI am like an 'Ant' to interpret all these! I follow all paths as it is,without applying logic in it except consuming alcohol, meat etc.>> I know that Lord Shiva is known as Aghori Sadhu and his almighty weredoing these also. I also know in 'Shree Dattatreya Vajra Kavach' it saysGuru Dattatreya is found anywhere in any form, a children, yogis andghosts! That means Guru Dattatreya would also have been doing this. Butwhen will I be able to explain myself why this? May god bless on me andI get such knowledge and do not make comments without knowing it! May bebecause I am not found by any Guru!>> There are lots to know on such things but I am small and its hard tofind time right now! So, just share whatever in here.>> Hari Aum Tatsat Jai Guru Datt> Dhruv>> para_anuloma para_anuloma wrote:> Dear Dhruvji,> Aghoris eat not just meat but human meat,dog dead bodies,human andanimal excreta,etc.> Aghoris not only consume alcohol but the most powerful marijauna andother cocktail of narcotics.> Aghoris live by their "Kappar"(Human skull shaped into a begging bowl)just like Lord Shiva or Lord Dattatreya.> What the Aghoris do is nothing when compared to the Lord of Girinar,Lord Dattatreya Himself or what Kailasavasa Parameshwara does.> No one in the "satwic" spiritual field would even think of doing suchthings.I personally do not do such things and have adviced viewerdiscretion the beginning itself.> Aghora is according to me the most brave path to God. Not many canunderstand its depth. There might be a few Aghoris who are charlatansthese days but many are good, real good. Aghoris prefer to shock thenormal comfort-zones of most humans. They do it not to make a statementbut for a focus on God despite and inspite of all the filth.To them asRamnath says "Both the flower and faeces are equally good".> Ask an Aghori/Aghorini to give up his life forDatta/Shiva/Amba...He/She will cut his/her head without even a secondhesitation for the cause. Do we have such a bhakthi?Just ponder oncebefore you pass further statements like" Why should we cut off ourheads?",etc.(That is besides the point)> If we do not like it or not know about something, we should remainsilent, till we gain a proper perspective. This is my opinion.One shouldnever pass judgements on how a "sadhna" should be.> It is interesting that you used the word "Munda". An Aghori would loveto hear that!> Let me translate literally what the sanskrit phrase you said meant. Ido not know whether you will use it again!> "Munde Munde matti binna"---"Skull to skull brains are varigiated!".> For an Aghori this has no meaning(literally) as he tastes the meat ineach such human skull and says "This is what God offers me and have notaste for anything".> If you want to understand this sect(which is by the way very dear toLord Dattatreya) please read the trilogy "Aghora"(Part1,2 and 3) byRobert Svaboda.> I personally would consider myself a fool if I pass such superciliousjudgements.I can come nowhere near the worship and devotion these Yogishave.I prefer to roll at the dust of such Aghoris. My own life has beengranted by one such great and authentic Aghori in andhra who spent 12years in Benaras and various places.(Swaprakashananadaji).And I ahevmoved with such people from my age of 4 including staying with them insmashans at such an young age and I know what they are, atleast to someextent.> Ofcourse, this has no connection to my current path of DakshinacharaSrividya upasana.We don't even discuss such things here. But that doesnot mean a true Dakshinachara and a true aghori will not share the samecup of divinity.> My two cents on the issue...> Yours yogically,> Shreeram Balijepalli>>>> Smarthrugaami-Dattavaibhavam , Dhruv dhruvitime@wrote:> >> > It was privilege to watch these videos but I stopped after watching3rd video. Because then the aghori sadhu starts eating meat. That's theonly thing I don't like. Sadhna should be sattvik that's what I think!> >> > There's a proverb in Sanskrit, 'Munde munde matti bhinna'. Thatmeans every individual, their brain and thoughts are different. So itdepends on individual's opinion but I strictly don't like consumingalcohol, meat etc nowhere either it's meal or sadhna (worship).> >> > Dhruv> >> > para_anuloma para_anuloma@ wrote: Dear Members,> >> > Those who have read the "Aghora" series by Robert Svaboda, will> > appreciate the videos(authentic) which I present below.> >> > Dattatreya is one of the greatest Aghori.Aghoris,Nathas,Avadhutasare> > close to the heart of Datta.> >> > I myself have been born due to the grace of an Aghori in Andhra.I> > have moved with Him and seen the smashans at midnight he used to> > frequent as a kid,etc.To me all these are not new but I warn viewers> > that some scenes in the videos might be gruesome and unpalatable and> > thus I advice viewer discretion.> >> > -------------------------> >> > Part-1 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWgW9kh_NjQ & feature=related> >> > Part-2 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=gkMpZ1uszNs & feature=related> >> > Part-3 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXFwzqE28ZI & feature=related> >> > Part-4 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=XjscXcrTdbQ & feature=related> >> > Part-5 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=pG0Vra5cDw0 & feature=related> >> > Part-6 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=NLCpNQGIMzY & feature=related> >> > -------------------------> >> > Yours Yogically,> >> > Shreeram Balijepalli> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good> >>>>>>>> > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good>