Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Dear Readers, It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any devotee clarify it? Regards. Raamam. , " manel_ush " <manel_ush wrote: > > dear readers, > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and just > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant this > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > om > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy. I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too. With regards, Prashant Upadhyay , " rvemurin " <rvemurin wrote: > > Dear Readers, > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it? > > Regards. > Raamam. > > > , " manel_ush " > <manel_ush@> wrote: > > > > dear readers, > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > > > om > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy. I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too. With regards, Prashant Upadhyay , " rvemurin " <rvemurin wrote: > > Dear Readers, > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it? > > Regards. > Raamam. > > > , " manel_ush " > <manel_ush@> wrote: > > > > dear readers, > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > > > om > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Respected Prashant, How to chant OM? Whether in the heart or louder? Kindly emphasise. Regards. V.Raamam. , " prashant_upaa " <prashant_upaa wrote: > > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy. > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too. > > With regards, > Prashant Upadhyay > > > , " rvemurin " > <rvemurin@> wrote: > > > > Dear Readers, > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it? > > > > Regards. > > Raamam. > > > > > > , " manel_ush " > > <manel_ush@> wrote: > > > > > > dear readers, > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > > > > > om > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear respected all, Omkaar or pranava is the first sound that was heard from the lord almighty.It is prime veda mantra and always precedes most mantras and shlokas.There is a way of chanting om and spelt as AUM ...There is also a way to chant Aum and there is a process of breathing that needs to be followed to feel the vibration of the Omkaar.A guidance of a guru is the best as you will never learn wrong.. I am sharing this small information to the group so that everyone is aware and benefitted.I am sure there are learned souls in this group who may guide further on this.There is lot of imformation about omkaar on the net which one can see and learn. Best regards prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote: Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy.I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.With regards,Prashant Upadhyay , "rvemurin" <rvemurin wrote:>> Dear Readers,> > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it?> > Regards.> Raamam.> > > , "manel_ush" > <manel_ush@> wrote:> >> > dear readers,> > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > om> >> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. Hari.Venkataramanprashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote: Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy.I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.With regards,Prashant Upadhyay , "rvemurin" <rvemurin wrote:>> Dear Readers,> > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it?> > Regards.> Raamam.> > > , "manel_ush" > <manel_ush@> wrote:> >> > dear readers,> > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > om> >> For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 NamasteThis while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devidnra MaharajVenkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. Hari.Venkataramanprashant_upaa <prashant_upaa > wrote: Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy.I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.With regards,Prashant Upadhyay , "rvemurin" <rvemurin wrote:>> Dear Readers,> > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it?> > Regards.> Raamam.> > > , "manel_ush" > <manel_ush@> wrote:> >> > dear readers,> > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > om> >> For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 JAI MAA, Go to the web site, http://www.swamij.com/om-mantra.htm Introduction OM symbolizes deep realities: OM Mantra itself is not a mere human invention, going along with particular cultures or groups. Rather, the OM Mantra (or AUM Mantra) is a symbol of deep realities that already exist. For example, the deep vibration quality is definitely experienced by the mystic traveler, whether or not one has ever heard of the OM mantra as such. The levels of gross (A), subtle (U), and causal (M), and the states of waking (A), dreaming (U), and deep sleep (M) are definitely there, regardless of the symbolism captured in the mantra when stated as AUM Mantra. It is these realities that are most useful in our spiritual practices. (See the article AUM and the 7 levels of consciousness) Making the experience richer: If the OM mantra is repeated just for the feeling, having no sense of meaning at all, the experience can be quite pleasant, calming, and balancing. However, if one has a sense of the deeper meanings of the mantra, and different methods of using it, then the experience can be even richer and more revealing as one progresses in yoga meditation. Practice one of the seven: Following are seven meanings and methods of using the mantra. By experimenting with the various methods, one of them may emerge that feels most personally in tune. It might be best to practice only one of the seven methods of OM mantra for a while. Gradually the other meanings will come, as they all merge into a unified experience. Integrate the insights: The use of this mantra can be profound. At first, it is best to use the mantra gently and for short periods of time. The insights from the OM mantra can be significant, and it is good to integrate the insights gradually with daily life. See also the article:Bindu: Pinnacle of Yoga, Vedanta and Tantra top 1. Pulsing Repetition Use a speed that is natural and comfortable: There are many rhythms in the body and mind, both gross and subtle. Imagine the sound of OM, rising and falling, at whatever speed is comfortable and natural. It may be very fast, several cycles per second. Or it may be slower, several seconds for each cycling of OM Mantra. Or it might become extremely slow, with the mmmmmm... sound continuing in the mind for much longer periods, but still pulsing at that slow rate. Imagine it somewhat like one of these vibrations: OMmmOMmmOMmm... OMmmmmOMmmmmOMmmmm... OMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmm... Meditation time and daily life: This kind of awareness of the OM mantra can be used both at meditation time and during daily life. The OM mantra is allowed to be somewhat of a constant companion. It brings a centering, balancing quality to daily life. This does not mean being in a dull, lethargic state. Rather, done well, it brings clarity of mind and a greater ability to be in the world, and selflessly serving others. Breaking habit patterns: This is not intended as a blocking mechanism to prevent dealing with one's thought process or with the challenges of life. It is not a method of escapism. However, it definitely can have the effect of bringing focus to the mind, which can break a pattern of disturbing or distracting thoughts coming from the noisy or chattering mind. In this way, one has a greater openness to being aware of positive thoughts and spiritual realities that are always there. top 2. With the Flow of Breath One method: Imagine the sound of OM Mantra internally, in the mind only, making no external sound. Allow the mantra to flow with the breath. Repeat like this: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Another method: Alternatively, imagine the OM mantra only on exhalation, if that feels more comfortable: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Mind, breath, and mantra in unison: In this practice, you come to experience the mind, breath, and mantra flowing in unison. This synchronization has a beautiful effect on meditation. Simply allow the OM Mantra to come and go with each inhalation and exhalation. Allow there to be no gap, no space, no pause between inhalation and exhalation, or between exhalation and inhalation. The speed naturally slows: As you gently allow the OM mantra to flow with the breath, the mind becomes calm. When the mind becomes calm, the body relaxes, and the breath becomes even soother and slower. That rate of speed at which the OM mantra is being repeated naturally slows down. It is not a matter of forcing the mantra to slow, but rather, this slowing comes quite naturally. Allow the mind to stay wide awake and alert, as the OM mantra and breath become naturally slower and slower. Meditation will deepen. top 3. As the Object Called Universe Words have an object and meaning: Words usually have a corresponding object and meaning to go with that word. If you hear the word chair, then the concept of chair-ness arises in your mind. Some specific chair will probably come to mind. It may be a wooden chair or a metal chair, for example. It may be large, small, or this or that style, and it may be new or old. So, three things are there: 1) the word chair, 2) the concept of chair-ness, and 3) a specific chair. The object that goes with OM is the universe: When the word OM is heard, what is the concept and object that comes to mind? What is that thing that goes along with that word, OM? The concept that goes with OM is the one-ness or entirety of the universe. The object that goes with the word OM is the entire universe, as a single unit, including the gross, subtle, causal planes of reality, both manifest and un-manifest. It means that whole, as if it was one, single object. It is that infinitely huge object, which is the object that goes with the word OM. Awareness expands to contain the object: With attention turned inward, and reflecting on chair, the concept and image of chair arises. In the same way, do the same thing with the word OM, and allow your awareness to expand, as if it could contain the whole universe to go with that word. Stretching the attention: There is a feeling of stretching, as if the attention had to get bigger and bigger, to contain the whole, the same way as the chair has a back, a seat, and legs, yet is collectively a chair. Continue to repeat OM, and continue to expand, so as to allow your attention to contain the whole of the object called OM. top 4. Sound Vibration of the Universe The subtle sound is always there: A vibration exists, underneath all of the grosser aspects of being, like a substratum. The subtle sound of OM Mantra is constantly there, and when heard in deep yoga meditation, sounds like a continuous vibration, ever sounding out mmmmmmm.... At a deeper level, it is extremely loud and serene. Emerging from OM: The reality symbolized by OM Mantra is the ground vibration out of which all other vibrations, sounds and mantras emerge. Receding into OM: That vibration represented by OM Mantra is the substratum into which all those vibrations, sounds, and mantras recede when followed back to their source. Similar words: Some say that this everlasting, all pervasive vibration of OM Mantra is also the source and intent of Amen, Amin, and Shalom. Some say that this sound is the Word of God. Silence from which OM emerges: Eventually, this leads to a deep stillness and silence, which paradoxically, is experienced as the silence from which the sound of OM itself emerged. In the sections below, the silence is described as being the fourth state, beyond the three sounds of A, U, and M, which are contained in OM Mantra. However, in this practice, as you internally repeat the sound of OM, imagine that underlying vibration of the universe, as if it were coming from all places, and through all things. Listen to the vibration while remembering OM: There is a sound that can relatively easily be heard in your ears that is more surface level, coming from the brain. Some people experience this as a buzzing or ringing sound. By listening closely, the mmmmmmm... sound can be heard, like the end of the OM mantra (Or you might hear it as eeeeeeeee....) Listening to this vibration, with the awareness of OM is a good way to start with the vibration aspect of OM. Gradually, it will expand to deeper sound of the mantra. Listening in this way can be particularly enjoyable and insightful when recalling some of the other meanings of OM Mantra at the same time. Allowing thoughts to come and go: While listening, it is best to gently allow other thought patterns to come into the field of attention, and then allow those thoughts to drift away. There is not really any intent of doing anything with these thoughts, either engaging them or pushing them away. In other words, the listening for OM is not used to suppress thoughts and emotions. Rather, attention is allowed to expand, but at the same time, non-attachment is learned by staying with the vibration, and letting go of the thought patterns. This is one way to gain access to the ability to be a neutral witness of the stream of thoughts in the mind, as is sometime described as being like watching leaves, sticks, and logs floating by in a river. top 5. Gross, Subtle, and Causal Planes Remembering four planes with OM: The OM mantra designates the whole of the universe, including the gross, subtle, and causal planes (realms, or levels) and the absolute reality of which they are a part. The explanation below can sound a bit technical, but this truly is a very practical use of the mantra, once you understand the meaning. It does require working with the mantra and the meaning, but then it becomes clearer and quite insightful. Four parts of OM: The OM Mantra has four parts. First, is the sound like "Ah," then "Uuuu," then "Mmmm," and finally the silence beyond the mantra. Thus, the mantra is also written as AUM, as well as OM. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The A sound refers to the gross world. The U part refers to the subtle realm. The M refers to the causal plane, out of which the gross and subtle emerge. The Silence after these three, refers to the absolute reality that is the substratum for each of the other three realities. Start slowly in remembering the parts: When using the mantra in this way, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing time to be aware of each of the levels. Be aware of the four parts of the mantra separately (though forming a continuous sound), something like this: AaaaaaUuuuuuMmmmmm.....Silence..... When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the gross world, including the objects of the world, the people, and your own physical being. Actually allow your attention to scan these aspects of the world. Do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can of the existence of the subtle or astral realm, including whatever objects you might intuit. As with the gross world, do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the causal, the background stillness out of which the subtle and gross emerge, and into which they rest when not active. This can be difficult to imagine. It might help to think of it like being the canvas on which a picture is painted, or the screen on which a movie is projected. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the absolute reality that permeates each of the other three layers. This fourth level of the mantra the absolute reality, is experienced in a shallow way at first, and only deepens with continued practice of contemplation and yoga meditation. (To better understand this, please refer to the paper on the Mahavakyas, the great contemplations. From that, you will see how the mantra and the contemplations go together.) top 6. Waking, Dreaming, and Deep Sleep Four states of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep, as well. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the waking state of consciousness. The "U" part refers to the dreaming state of consciousness. The "M" refers to the deep sleep state of consciousness. The Silence after these three, refers to the witness consciousness that is observer of the other three states of consciousness. The question can arise of why a spiritual seeker cares about the states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. It is said that the states of deep sleep, samadhi, and death are very close together, that they function at the same levels. To understand this further, it would be good to read the paper on OM and the 7 levels of consciousness. Begin by remembering slowly: As in the last practice, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing yourself time to be aware of each of the levels. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the waking state of consciousness. This does not mean thinking of the objects of the world, but rather, being mindful of your personal waking state, in relation to the world and your inner mental and emotional process. This simply means being aware of being awake. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the dreaming state of consciousness. This does not necessarily mean that you are experiencing those dreams, but that you are mindful of the dream state that is beneath the waking state. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the deep sleep state of consciousness. Be aware of how the mind is in complete stillness in that state, where there is no active thought process, no images, no pictures, and no words. All of these have come to rest in a dormant, formless form. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three states of consciousness. In other words, consciousness flows through the waking state, the dreaming state, and even the deep sleep state (although there is no active content in deep sleep). Imagine that you can somehow be witness to waking, dreaming, and deep sleep from a higher vantage point that is aware of all. Focusing more inwardly: When using the OM mantra in this way, notice how very personal the practice is, in that you are consciously cultivating awareness of the levels of your own internal states. It has an in here focus. By contrast, the use of OM with the levels of gross, subtle, causal, and absolute reality (above) has more of a focus out there. Ultimately, they merge into one awareness. top 7. Conscious, Unconscious, Subconscious Mind Levels of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of conscious, unconscious, and subconscious, as well as the consciousness that permeates these. (Note that some psychologies or systems use the words unconscious and subconscious in reverse, or use different terms. The meaning is what is important, not the particular choice of words). The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the conscious level of mental functioning. The "U" part refers to the unconscious level of mind. The "M" refers to the subconscious level, the storage place of mind. The Silence after these three, refers to the pure consciousness, which permeates the conscious, unconscious, and subconscious levels of awareness. Begin slowly: Once again, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the conscious level of mind. The easiest way to do this, is to contrast conscious to the unconscious. There is the conscious, that we are aware of here, in this external world, and there is the unconscious that is not seen in the deeper mind. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can, that your mind is presently functioning at an unconscious level as well. There is a tremendous amount of thinking process normally going on, that is out of view. This is what psychologists call primary process. It is going on behind the scenes, much like the microprocessor in a computer that is invisibly doing its work. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the latent part of the mind, where all of the countless memories of people, objects, and day to day information is stored. It is there, like the information stored on a hard disk of a computer. Until it is needed, it just sits there in a latent, dormant form (It is actually in a formless form, somewhat like the data on the hard disk that is stored only as raw data, with no images as such). Be aware of that stillness, that is the storage of your deep impressions and habit patterns. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three levels. In other words, consciousness flows through the unconscious functioning. Consciousness is there in the latent part of the mind, even though those objects are not awakened into action at the moment. Eventually, this Silence expands to being the awareness of the other three states. It is at this stage that one is called a Seer, in that all of the other levels of mind are witnessed from this vantage point. top Integration of the Practices Three methods from same levels: Gradually, one comes to see that the last three methods of using AUM (above) are manifestations of the same levels of being. Notice how the "A" represents, Waking, Conscious, and Gross levels. The "U" represents Dreaming, Unconscious, and Subtle levels. The "M" represents Deep Sleep, Subconscious and Causal. The Silence represents the fourth state, which is above or higher than the other three. These are further described in the paper 4 Levels and 3 Domains of Consciousness. AUM Name of level States of Consciousness Levels of Consciousness Levels of Reality A Vaishvanara Waking Conscious Gross U Taijasa Dreaming Unconscious Subtle M Prajna Deep Sleep Subconscious Causal Silence Turiya / Fourth Turiya / Fourth Consciousness / Self / Atman AbsoluteReality The one great vibration: One comes to experience that the four aspects of AUM, the vibration of the universe, the object that goes with OM mantra, the flow with the breath, and the countless pulsings of the gross and subtle, are all manifestations of that one great vibration that is represented by OM mantra. Unity of the methods: In practicing the seven methods above, it is best to focus on one at a time, so as to capture its individual meaning and experience. Eventually, the unity of the methods is experienced. Gururbrahmaa gururvishnuh gururdevo Maheswarah |Guruh-saakshaat parabrahma tasmai shrigurave namah || Om,Rajyalaxmi> > rvemurin Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:40:29 +0000> Re: om> > > Respected Prashant,> How to chant OM? Whether in the heart or louder? Kindly emphasise.> > Regards.> V.Raamam.> > > > , "prashant_upaa" > <prashant_upaa wrote:> >> > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all > mantras. I > > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > > mental strength and energy.> > > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > > > With regards,> > Prashant Upadhyay> > > > > > , "rvemurin" > > <rvemurin@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Readers,> > > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra > deeksha > > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can > any > > > devotee clarify it?> > > > > > Regards.> > > Raamam.> > > > > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear readers,> > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > > just > > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > > chant > > > this > > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > > > om> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 namasthe greatful to dev maharaj for the revealation of his experience . it explains the need not to get disappointed and frustrated in chanting god's name rajeekayDev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: NamasteThis while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devidnra MaharajVenkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. Hari.Venkataramanprashant_upaa <prashant_upaa > wrote: Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous mental strength and energy.I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.With regards,Prashant Upadhyay , "rvemurin" <rvemurin wrote:>> Dear Readers,> > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > devotee clarify it?> > Regards.> Raamam.> > > , "manel_ush" > <manel_ush@> wrote:> >> > dear readers,> > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > just > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning chant > this > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > om> >> For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Om Namah Sivaya Namaste, I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all. regards, Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Namaste > > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha. > Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha. > The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness. > > Namah Sivaya > Best Regards > Pandit Devidnra Maharaj > > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, " Om Itekasharam Brahma " says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman > > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote: > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy. > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too. > > With regards, > Prashant Upadhyay > > , " rvemurin " > <rvemurin@> wrote: > > > > Dear Readers, > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it? > > > > Regards. > > Raamam. > > > > > > , " manel_ush " > > <manel_ush@> wrote: > > > > > > dear readers, > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > > > > > om > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 NamasteAll can try it, but I would not recommend this for a prolonged period. Here are several things you need to be aware of when you begin to vibrate Om in a prolonged fashion : As your energy begins to heat up, you can experience a loss of sensation and libido ( for householders ). As you begin to speed up your vibration, a whole lot of impurities from inside of you begins to come to the surface of your skin resulting in boils, inflamation and puss finding its way out of you.You need to be extremely clean at all times.- Environment, Body - Internally and externally as well.There are many more things to be wary of such as sleeplessness due to excess energy. Sometimes you can automatically tune into a higher state of consciousness ( this results in a supine state where you are not aware of your environment ), this can be especially dangerous if you are driving or operating machinery etc. This is why it is necessary to learn and practice Mantra Vidya under the guidance of a genuine Guru alternatively a Sadhaka who is well versed and not start reciting willy nilly. Mantras are serious tools not for the faint at heart, when it activates properly it is almost like a bomb going off inside of you, if you cannot remain mentally controlled you can experience debilitating effects psychologically and physically.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajbhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah Sivaya Namaste, I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all. regards, Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Namaste > > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha. > Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha. > The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness. > > Namah Sivaya > Best Regards > Pandit Devidnra Maharaj > > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman > > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote: > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy. > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too. > > With regards, > Prashant Upadhyay > > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote: > > > > Dear Readers, > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it? > > > > Regards. > > Raamam. > > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote: > > > > > > dear readers, > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled. > > > > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Namaste RajyaThank you this is an excellent post which all should read carefully..Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajrajya laxmi <rajyalaxmi11 wrote: JAI MAA, Go to the web site, http://www.swamij.com/om-mantra.htm Introduction OM symbolizes deep realities: OM Mantra itself is not a mere human invention, going along with particular cultures or groups. Rather, the OM Mantra (or AUM Mantra) is a symbol of deep realities that already exist. For example, the deep vibration quality is definitely experienced by the mystic traveler, whether or not one has ever heard of the OM mantra as such. The levels of gross (A), subtle (U), and causal (M), and the states of waking (A), dreaming (U), and deep sleep (M) are definitely there, regardless of the symbolism captured in the mantra when stated as AUM Mantra. It is these realities that are most useful in our spiritual practices. (See the article AUM and the 7 levels of consciousness) Making the experience richer: If the OM mantra is repeated just for the feeling, having no sense of meaning at all, the experience can be quite pleasant, calming, and balancing. However, if one has a sense of the deeper meanings of the mantra, and different methods of using it, then the experience can be even richer and more revealing as one progresses in yoga meditation. Practice one of the seven: Following are seven meanings and methods of using the mantra. By experimenting with the various methods, one of them may emerge that feels most personally in tune. It might be best to practice only one of the seven methods of OM mantra for a while. Gradually the other meanings will come, as they all merge into a unified experience. Integrate the insights: The use of this mantra can be profound. At first, it is best to use the mantra gently and for short periods of time. The insights from the OM mantra can be significant, and it is good to integrate the insights gradually with daily life. See also the article:Bindu: Pinnacle of Yoga, Vedanta and Tantra top 1. Pulsing Repetition Use a speed that is natural and comfortable: There are many rhythms in the body and mind, both gross and subtle. Imagine the sound of OM, rising and falling, at whatever speed is comfortable and natural. It may be very fast, several cycles per second. Or it may be slower, several seconds for each cycling of OM Mantra. Or it might become extremely slow, with the mmmmmm... sound continuing in the mind for much longer periods, but still pulsing at that slow rate. Imagine it somewhat like one of these vibrations: OMmmOMmmOMmm... OMmmmmOMmmmmOMmmmm... OMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmm... Meditation time and daily life: This kind of awareness of the OM mantra can be used both at meditation time and during daily life. The OM mantra is allowed to be somewhat of a constant companion. It brings a centering, balancing quality to daily life. This does not mean being in a dull, lethargic state. Rather, done well, it brings clarity of mind and a greater ability to be in the world, and selflessly serving others. Breaking habit patterns: This is not intended as a blocking mechanism to prevent dealing with one's thought process or with the challenges of life. It is not a method of escapism. However, it definitely can have the effect of bringing focus to the mind, which can break a pattern of disturbing or distracting thoughts coming from the noisy or chattering mind. In this way, one has a greater openness to being aware of positive thoughts and spiritual realities that are always there. top 2. With the Flow of Breath One method: Imagine the sound of OM Mantra internally, in the mind only, making no external sound. Allow the mantra to flow with the breath. Repeat like this: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Another method: Alternatively, imagine the OM mantra only on exhalation, if that feels more comfortable: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Mind, breath, and mantra in unison: In this practice, you come to experience the mind, breath, and mantra flowing in unison. This synchronization has a beautiful effect on meditation. Simply allow the OM Mantra to come and go with each inhalation and exhalation. Allow there to be no gap, no space, no pause between inhalation and exhalation, or between exhalation and inhalation. The speed naturally slows: As you gently allow the OM mantra to flow with the breath, the mind becomes calm. When the mind becomes calm, the body relaxes, and the breath becomes even soother and slower. That rate of speed at which the OM mantra is being repeated naturally slows down. It is not a matter of forcing the mantra to slow, but rather, this slowing comes quite naturally. Allow the mind to stay wide awake and alert, as the OM mantra and breath become naturally slower and slower. Meditation will deepen. top 3. As the Object Called Universe Words have an object and meaning: Words usually have a corresponding object and meaning to go with that word. If you hear the word chair, then the concept of chair-ness arises in your mind. Some specific chair will probably come to mind. It may be a wooden chair or a metal chair, for example. It may be large, small, or this or that style, and it may be new or old. So, three things are there: 1) the word chair, 2) the concept of chair-ness, and 3) a specific chair. The object that goes with OM is the universe: When the word OM is heard, what is the concept and object that comes to mind? What is that thing that goes along with that word, OM? The concept that goes with OM is the one-ness or entirety of the universe. The object that goes with the word OM is the entire universe, as a single unit, including the gross, subtle, causal planes of reality, both manifest and un-manifest. It means that whole, as if it was one, single object. It is that infinitely huge object, which is the object that goes with the word OM. Awareness expands to contain the object: With attention turned inward, and reflecting on chair, the concept and image of chair arises. In the same way, do the same thing with the word OM, and allow your awareness to expand, as if it could contain the whole universe to go with that word. Stretching the attention: There is a feeling of stretching, as if the attention had to get bigger and bigger, to contain the whole, the same way as the chair has a back, a seat, and legs, yet is collectively a chair. Continue to repeat OM, and continue to expand, so as to allow your attention to contain the whole of the object called OM. top 4. Sound Vibration of the Universe The subtle sound is always there: A vibration exists, underneath all of the grosser aspects of being, like a substratum. The subtle sound of OM Mantra is constantly there, and when heard in deep yoga meditation, sounds like a continuous vibration, ever sounding out mmmmmmm.... At a deeper level, it is extremely loud and serene. Emerging from OM: The reality symbolized by OM Mantra is the ground vibration out of which all other vibrations, sounds and mantras emerge. Receding into OM: That vibration represented by OM Mantra is the substratum into which all those vibrations, sounds, and mantras recede when followed back to their source. Similar words: Some say that this everlasting, all pervasive vibration of OM Mantra is also the source and intent of Amen, Amin, and Shalom. Some say that this sound is the Word of God. Silence from which OM emerges: Eventually, this leads to a deep stillness and silence, which paradoxically, is experienced as the silence from which the sound of OM itself emerged. In the sections below, the silence is described as being the fourth state, beyond the three sounds of A, U, and M, which are contained in OM Mantra. However, in this practice, as you internally repeat the sound of OM, imagine that underlying vibration of the universe, as if it were coming from all places, and through all things. Listen to the vibration while remembering OM: There is a sound that can relatively easily be heard in your ears that is more surface level, coming from the brain. Some people experience this as a buzzing or ringing sound. By listening closely, the mmmmmmm... sound can be heard, like the end of the OM mantra (Or you might hear it as eeeeeeeee....) Listening to this vibration, with the awareness of OM is a good way to start with the vibration aspect of OM. Gradually, it will expand to deeper sound of the mantra. Listening in this way can be particularly enjoyable and insightful when recalling some of the other meanings of OM Mantra at the same time. Allowing thoughts to come and go: While listening, it is best to gently allow other thought patterns to come into the field of attention, and then allow those thoughts to drift away. There is not really any intent of doing anything with these thoughts, either engaging them or pushing them away. In other words, the listening for OM is not used to suppress thoughts and emotions. Rather, attention is allowed to expand, but at the same time, non-attachment is learned by staying with the vibration, and letting go of the thought patterns. This is one way to gain access to the ability to be a neutral witness of the stream of thoughts in the mind, as is sometime described as being like watching leaves, sticks, and logs floating by in a river. top 5. Gross, Subtle, and Causal Planes Remembering four planes with OM: The OM mantra designates the whole of the universe, including the gross, subtle, and causal planes (realms, or levels) and the absolute reality of which they are a part. The explanation below can sound a bit technical, but this truly is a very practical use of the mantra, once you understand the meaning. It does require working with the mantra and the meaning, but then it becomes clearer and quite insightful. Four parts of OM: The OM Mantra has four parts. First, is the sound like "Ah," then "Uuuu," then "Mmmm," and finally the silence beyond the mantra. Thus, the mantra is also written as AUM, as well as OM. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The A sound refers to the gross world. The U part refers to the subtle realm. The M refers to the causal plane, out of which the gross and subtle emerge. The Silence after these three, refers to the absolute reality that is the substratum for each of the other three realities. Start slowly in remembering the parts: When using the mantra in this way, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing time to be aware of each of the levels. Be aware of the four parts of the mantra separately (though forming a continuous sound), something like this: AaaaaaUuuuuuMmmmmm.....Silence..... When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the gross world, including the objects of the world, the people, and your own physical being. Actually allow your attention to scan these aspects of the world. Do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can of the existence of the subtle or astral realm, including whatever objects you might intuit. As with the gross world, do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the causal, the background stillness out of which the subtle and gross emerge, and into which they rest when not active. This can be difficult to imagine. It might help to think of it like being the canvas on which a picture is painted, or the screen on which a movie is projected. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the absolute reality that permeates each of the other three layers. This fourth level of the mantra the absolute reality, is experienced in a shallow way at first, and only deepens with continued practice of contemplation and yoga meditation. (To better understand this, please refer to the paper on the Mahavakyas, the great contemplations. From that, you will see how the mantra and the contemplations go together.) top 6. Waking, Dreaming, and Deep Sleep Four states of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep, as well. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the waking state of consciousness. The "U" part refers to the dreaming state of consciousness. The "M" refers to the deep sleep state of consciousness. The Silence after these three, refers to the witness consciousness that is observer of the other three states of consciousness. The question can arise of why a spiritual seeker cares about the states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. It is said that the states of deep sleep, samadhi, and death are very close together, that they function at the same levels. To understand this further, it would be good to read the paper on OM and the 7 levels of consciousness. Begin by remembering slowly: As in the last practice, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing yourself time to be aware of each of the levels. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the waking state of consciousness. This does not mean thinking of the objects of the world, but rather, being mindful of your personal waking state, in relation to the world and your inner mental and emotional process. This simply means being aware of being awake. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the dreaming state of consciousness. This does not necessarily mean that you are experiencing those dreams, but that you are mindful of the dream state that is beneath the waking state. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the deep sleep state of consciousness. Be aware of how the mind is in complete stillness in that state, where there is no active thought process, no images, no pictures, and no words. All of these have come to rest in a dormant, formless form. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three states of consciousness. In other words, consciousness flows through the waking state, the dreaming state, and even the deep sleep state (although there is no active content in deep sleep). Imagine that you can somehow be witness to waking, dreaming, and deep sleep from a higher vantage point that is aware of all. Focusing more inwardly: When using the OM mantra in this way, notice how very personal the practice is, in that you are consciously cultivating awareness of the levels of your own internal states. It has an in here focus. By contrast, the use of OM with the levels of gross, subtle, causal, and absolute reality (above) has more of a focus out there. Ultimately, they merge into one awareness. top 7. Conscious, Unconscious, Subconscious Mind Levels of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of conscious, unconscious, and subconscious, as well as the consciousness that permeates these. (Note that some psychologies or systems use the words unconscious and subconscious in reverse, or use different terms. The meaning is what is important, not the particular choice of words). The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the conscious level of mental functioning. The "U" part refers to the unconscious level of mind. The "M" refers to the subconscious level, the storage place of mind. The Silence after these three, refers to the pure consciousness, which permeates the conscious, unconscious, and subconscious levels of awareness. Begin slowly: Once again, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the conscious level of mind. The easiest way to do this, is to contrast conscious to the unconscious. There is the conscious, that we are aware of here, in this external world, and there is the unconscious that is not seen in the deeper mind. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can, that your mind is presently functioning at an unconscious level as well. There is a tremendous amount of thinking process normally going on, that is out of view. This is what psychologists call primary process. It is going on behind the scenes, much like the microprocessor in a computer that is invisibly doing its work. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the latent part of the mind, where all of the countless memories of people, objects, and day to day information is stored. It is there, like the information stored on a hard disk of a computer. Until it is needed, it just sits there in a latent, dormant form (It is actually in a formless form, somewhat like the data on the hard disk that is stored only as raw data, with no images as such). Be aware of that stillness, that is the storage of your deep impressions and habit patterns. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three levels. In other words, consciousness flows through the unconscious functioning. Consciousness is there in the latent part of the mind, even though those objects are not awakened into action at the moment. Eventually, this Silence expands to being the awareness of the other three states. It is at this stage that one is called a Seer, in that all of the other levels of mind are witnessed from this vantage point. top Integration of the Practices Three methods from same levels: Gradually, one comes to see that the last three methods of using AUM (above) are manifestations of the same levels of being. Notice how the "A" represents, Waking, Conscious, and Gross levels. The "U" represents Dreaming, Unconscious, and Subtle levels. The "M" represents Deep Sleep, Subconscious and Causal. The Silence represents the fourth state, which is above or higher than the other three. These are further described in the paper 4 Levels and 3 Domains of Consciousness. AUM Name of level States of Consciousness Levels of Consciousness Levels of Reality A Vaishvanara Waking Conscious Gross U Taijasa Dreaming Unconscious Subtle M Prajna Deep Sleep Subconscious Causal Silence Turiya / Fourth Turiya / Fourth Consciousness / Self / Atman AbsoluteReality The one great vibration: One comes to experience that the four aspects of AUM, the vibration of the universe, the object that goes with OM mantra, the flow with the breath, and the countless pulsings of the gross and subtle, are all manifestations of that one great vibration that is represented by OM mantra. Unity of the methods: In practicing the seven methods above, it is best to focus on one at a time, so as to capture its individual meaning and experience. Eventually, the unity of the methods is experienced. Gururbrahmaa gururvishnuh gururdevo Maheswarah |Guruh-saakshaat parabrahma tasmai shrigurave namah || Om,Rajyalaxmi> To: > rvemurin > Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:40:29 +0000> Re: om> > > Respected Prashant,> How to chant OM? Whether in the heart or louder? Kindly emphasise.> > Regards.> V.Raamam.> > > > , "prashant_upaa" > <prashant_upaa wrote:> >> > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all > mantras. I > > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > > mental strength and energy.> > > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > > > With regards,> > Prashant Upadhyay> > > > > > , "rvemurin" > > <rvemurin@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Readers,> > > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra > deeksha > > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can > any > > > devotee clarify it?> > > > > > Regards.> > > Raamam.> > > > > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear readers,> > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > > just > > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > > chant > > > this > > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > > > om> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Many thanks for wonderful exposition regarding OM. In my youth, I had heard from a realized Sanyasi (He is no longer in the body) that repetition of single word like 'OM' is for sanyasi only. It may harm a householder. For householders, use of dual words is ordained; such as 'Hari Om', Radhey Shyam, Radha Krishan, Sita Ram. I request our experts to throw some light on this aspect for my guidance. Many thanks. Chetan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Namaste Rajya laxmi, I really appreciate the eloboration by Rajya Laxmi. Thanks a lot for enlightining us on this subject. I really think it is going to help us a lot as we need to know more about this secretly practised mantra by sanyasis. May lord Shiva,Param Guru,Parmatma bless you Prashant Upadhyay Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: Namaste RajyaThank you this is an excellent post which all should read carefully..Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajrajya laxmi <rajyalaxmi11 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: JAI MAA, Go to the web site, http://www.swamij.com/om-mantra.htm Introduction OM symbolizes deep realities: OM Mantra itself is not a mere human invention, going along with particular cultures or groups. Rather, the OM Mantra (or AUM Mantra) is a symbol of deep realities that already exist. For example, the deep vibration quality is definitely experienced by the mystic traveler, whether or not one has ever heard of the OM mantra as such. The levels of gross (A), subtle (U), and causal (M), and the states of waking (A), dreaming (U), and deep sleep (M) are definitely there, regardless of the symbolism captured in the mantra when stated as AUM Mantra. It is these realities that are most useful in our spiritual practices. (See the article AUM and the 7 levels of consciousness) Making the experience richer: If the OM mantra is repeated just for the feeling, having no sense of meaning at all, the experience can be quite pleasant, calming, and balancing. However, if one has a sense of the deeper meanings of the mantra, and different methods of using it, then the experience can be even richer and more revealing as one progresses in yoga meditation. Practice one of the seven: Following are seven meanings and methods of using the mantra. By experimenting with the various methods, one of them may emerge that feels most personally in tune. It might be best to practice only one of the seven methods of OM mantra for a while. Gradually the other meanings will come, as they all merge into a unified experience. Integrate the insights: The use of this mantra can be profound. At first, it is best to use the mantra gently and for short periods of time. The insights from the OM mantra can be significant, and it is good to integrate the insights gradually with daily life. See also the article:Bindu: Pinnacle of Yoga, Vedanta and Tantra top 1. Pulsing Repetition Use a speed that is natural and comfortable: There are many rhythms in the body and mind, both gross and subtle. Imagine the sound of OM, rising and falling, at whatever speed is comfortable and natural. It may be very fast, several cycles per second. Or it may be slower, several seconds for each cycling of OM Mantra. Or it might become extremely slow, with the mmmmmm... sound continuing in the mind for much longer periods, but still pulsing at that slow rate. Imagine it somewhat like one of these vibrations: OMmmOMmmOMmm... OMmmmmOMmmmmOMmmmm... OMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmmOMmmmmmmm... Meditation time and daily life: This kind of awareness of the OM mantra can be used both at meditation time and during daily life. The OM mantra is allowed to be somewhat of a constant companion. It brings a centering, balancing quality to daily life. This does not mean being in a dull, lethargic state. Rather, done well, it brings clarity of mind and a greater ability to be in the world, and selflessly serving others. Breaking habit patterns: This is not intended as a blocking mechanism to prevent dealing with one's thought process or with the challenges of life. It is not a method of escapism. However, it definitely can have the effect of bringing focus to the mind, which can break a pattern of disturbing or distracting thoughts coming from the noisy or chattering mind. In this way, one has a greater openness to being aware of positive thoughts and spiritual realities that are always there. top 2. With the Flow of Breath One method: Imagine the sound of OM Mantra internally, in the mind only, making no external sound. Allow the mantra to flow with the breath. Repeat like this: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Another method: Alternatively, imagine the OM mantra only on exhalation, if that feels more comfortable: Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Exhale: "OMmmmmmmm..." Inhale: " (silence) " Mind, breath, and mantra in unison: In this practice, you come to experience the mind, breath, and mantra flowing in unison. This synchronization has a beautiful effect on meditation. Simply allow the OM Mantra to come and go with each inhalation and exhalation. Allow there to be no gap, no space, no pause between inhalation and exhalation, or between exhalation and inhalation. The speed naturally slows: As you gently allow the OM mantra to flow with the breath, the mind becomes calm. When the mind becomes calm, the body relaxes, and the breath becomes even soother and slower. That rate of speed at which the OM mantra is being repeated naturally slows down. It is not a matter of forcing the mantra to slow, but rather, this slowing comes quite naturally. Allow the mind to stay wide awake and alert, as the OM mantra and breath become naturally slower and slower. Meditation will deepen. top 3. As the Object Called Universe Words have an object and meaning: Words usually have a corresponding object and meaning to go with that word. If you hear the word chair, then the concept of chair-ness arises in your mind. Some specific chair will probably come to mind. It may be a wooden chair or a metal chair, for example. It may be large, small, or this or that style, and it may be new or old. So, three things are there: 1) the word chair, 2) the concept of chair-ness, and 3) a specific chair. The object that goes with OM is the universe: When the word OM is heard, what is the concept and object that comes to mind? What is that thing that goes along with that word, OM? The concept that goes with OM is the one-ness or entirety of the universe. The object that goes with the word OM is the entire universe, as a single unit, including the gross, subtle, causal planes of reality, both manifest and un-manifest. It means that whole, as if it was one, single object. It is that infinitely huge object, which is the object that goes with the word OM. Awareness expands to contain the object: With attention turned inward, and reflecting on chair, the concept and image of chair arises. In the same way, do the same thing with the word OM, and allow your awareness to expand, as if it could contain the whole universe to go with that word. Stretching the attention: There is a feeling of stretching, as if the attention had to get bigger and bigger, to contain the whole, the same way as the chair has a back, a seat, and legs, yet is collectively a chair. Continue to repeat OM, and continue to expand, so as to allow your attention to contain the whole of the object called OM. top 4. Sound Vibration of the Universe The subtle sound is always there: A vibration exists, underneath all of the grosser aspects of being, like a substratum. The subtle sound of OM Mantra is constantly there, and when heard in deep yoga meditation, sounds like a continuous vibration, ever sounding out mmmmmmm.... At a deeper level, it is extremely loud and serene. Emerging from OM: The reality symbolized by OM Mantra is the ground vibration out of which all other vibrations, sounds and mantras emerge. Receding into OM: That vibration represented by OM Mantra is the substratum into which all those vibrations, sounds, and mantras recede when followed back to their source. Similar words: Some say that this everlasting, all pervasive vibration of OM Mantra is also the source and intent of Amen, Amin, and Shalom. Some say that this sound is the Word of God. Silence from which OM emerges: Eventually, this leads to a deep stillness and silence, which paradoxically, is experienced as the silence from which the sound of OM itself emerged. In the sections below, the silence is described as being the fourth state, beyond the three sounds of A, U, and M, which are contained in OM Mantra. However, in this practice, as you internally repeat the sound of OM, imagine that underlying vibration of the universe, as if it were coming from all places, and through all things. Listen to the vibration while remembering OM: There is a sound that can relatively easily be heard in your ears that is more surface level, coming from the brain. Some people experience this as a buzzing or ringing sound. By listening closely, the mmmmmmm... sound can be heard, like the end of the OM mantra (Or you might hear it as eeeeeeeee....) Listening to this vibration, with the awareness of OM is a good way to start with the vibration aspect of OM. Gradually, it will expand to deeper sound of the mantra. Listening in this way can be particularly enjoyable and insightful when recalling some of the other meanings of OM Mantra at the same time. Allowing thoughts to come and go: While listening, it is best to gently allow other thought patterns to come into the field of attention, and then allow those thoughts to drift away. There is not really any intent of doing anything with these thoughts, either engaging them or pushing them away. In other words, the listening for OM is not used to suppress thoughts and emotions. Rather, attention is allowed to expand, but at the same time, non-attachment is learned by staying with the vibration, and letting go of the thought patterns. This is one way to gain access to the ability to be a neutral witness of the stream of thoughts in the mind, as is sometime described as being like watching leaves, sticks, and logs floating by in a river. top 5. Gross, Subtle, and Causal Planes Remembering four planes with OM: The OM mantra designates the whole of the universe, including the gross, subtle, and causal planes (realms, or levels) and the absolute reality of which they are a part. The explanation below can sound a bit technical, but this truly is a very practical use of the mantra, once you understand the meaning. It does require working with the mantra and the meaning, but then it becomes clearer and quite insightful. Four parts of OM: The OM Mantra has four parts. First, is the sound like "Ah," then "Uuuu," then "Mmmm," and finally the silence beyond the mantra. Thus, the mantra is also written as AUM, as well as OM. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The A sound refers to the gross world. The U part refers to the subtle realm. The M refers to the causal plane, out of which the gross and subtle emerge. The Silence after these three, refers to the absolute reality that is the substratum for each of the other three realities. Start slowly in remembering the parts: When using the mantra in this way, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing time to be aware of each of the levels. Be aware of the four parts of the mantra separately (though forming a continuous sound), something like this: AaaaaaUuuuuuMmmmmm.....Silence..... When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the gross world, including the objects of the world, the people, and your own physical being. Actually allow your attention to scan these aspects of the world. Do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can of the existence of the subtle or astral realm, including whatever objects you might intuit. As with the gross world, do not get caught up in these objects; just be aware of this level of reality, and then let go of it, so as to go beyond. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the causal, the background stillness out of which the subtle and gross emerge, and into which they rest when not active. This can be difficult to imagine. It might help to think of it like being the canvas on which a picture is painted, or the screen on which a movie is projected. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the absolute reality that permeates each of the other three layers. This fourth level of the mantra the absolute reality, is experienced in a shallow way at first, and only deepens with continued practice of contemplation and yoga meditation. (To better understand this, please refer to the paper on the Mahavakyas, the great contemplations. From that, you will see how the mantra and the contemplations go together.) top 6. Waking, Dreaming, and Deep Sleep Four states of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep, as well. The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the waking state of consciousness. The "U" part refers to the dreaming state of consciousness. The "M" refers to the deep sleep state of consciousness. The Silence after these three, refers to the witness consciousness that is observer of the other three states of consciousness. The question can arise of why a spiritual seeker cares about the states of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. It is said that the states of deep sleep, samadhi, and death are very close together, that they function at the same levels. To understand this further, it would be good to read the paper on OM and the 7 levels of consciousness. Begin by remembering slowly: As in the last practice, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly, allowing yourself time to be aware of each of the levels. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the waking state of consciousness. This does not mean thinking of the objects of the world, but rather, being mindful of your personal waking state, in relation to the world and your inner mental and emotional process. This simply means being aware of being awake. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the dreaming state of consciousness. This does not necessarily mean that you are experiencing those dreams, but that you are mindful of the dream state that is beneath the waking state. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the deep sleep state of consciousness. Be aware of how the mind is in complete stillness in that state, where there is no active thought process, no images, no pictures, and no words. All of these have come to rest in a dormant, formless form. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three states of consciousness. In other words, consciousness flows through the waking state, the dreaming state, and even the deep sleep state (although there is no active content in deep sleep). Imagine that you can somehow be witness to waking, dreaming, and deep sleep from a higher vantage point that is aware of all. Focusing more inwardly: When using the OM mantra in this way, notice how very personal the practice is, in that you are consciously cultivating awareness of the levels of your own internal states. It has an in here focus. By contrast, the use of OM with the levels of gross, subtle, causal, and absolute reality (above) has more of a focus out there. Ultimately, they merge into one awareness. top 7. Conscious, Unconscious, Subconscious Mind Levels of consciousness: The four parts of AUM also refer to the levels of conscious, unconscious, and subconscious, as well as the consciousness that permeates these. (Note that some psychologies or systems use the words unconscious and subconscious in reverse, or use different terms. The meaning is what is important, not the particular choice of words). The three sounds, and the silence have the following meanings: The "A" sound refers to the conscious level of mental functioning. The "U" part refers to the unconscious level of mind. The "M" refers to the subconscious level, the storage place of mind. The Silence after these three, refers to the pure consciousness, which permeates the conscious, unconscious, and subconscious levels of awareness. Begin slowly: Once again, it is easiest to begin by remembering the mantra very slowly. With practice, it moves more quickly, as attention longs to rest in the silence. When the "A" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the conscious level of mind. The easiest way to do this, is to contrast conscious to the unconscious. There is the conscious, that we are aware of here, in this external world, and there is the unconscious that is not seen in the deeper mind. When the "U" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware, as best you can, that your mind is presently functioning at an unconscious level as well. There is a tremendous amount of thinking process normally going on, that is out of view. This is what psychologists call primary process. It is going on behind the scenes, much like the microprocessor in a computer that is invisibly doing its work. When the "M" of OM mantra arises in the mind field, be aware of the latent part of the mind, where all of the countless memories of people, objects, and day to day information is stored. It is there, like the information stored on a hard disk of a computer. Until it is needed, it just sits there in a latent, dormant form (It is actually in a formless form, somewhat like the data on the hard disk that is stored only as raw data, with no images as such). Be aware of that stillness, that is the storage of your deep impressions and habit patterns. When the Silence comes to the mind field, be aware of the consciousness that permeates all of the other three levels. In other words, consciousness flows through the unconscious functioning. Consciousness is there in the latent part of the mind, even though those objects are not awakened into action at the moment. Eventually, this Silence expands to being the awareness of the other three states. It is at this stage that one is called a Seer, in that all of the other levels of mind are witnessed from this vantage point. top Integration of the Practices Three methods from same levels: Gradually, one comes to see that the last three methods of using AUM (above) are manifestations of the same levels of being. Notice how the "A" represents, Waking, Conscious, and Gross levels. The "U" represents Dreaming, Unconscious, and Subtle levels. The "M" represents Deep Sleep, Subconscious and Causal. The Silence represents the fourth state, which is above or higher than the other three. These are further described in the paper 4 Levels and 3 Domains of Consciousness. AUM Name of level States of Consciousness Levels of Consciousness Levels of Reality A Vaishvanara Waking Conscious Gross U Taijasa Dreaming Unconscious Subtle M Prajna Deep Sleep Subconscious Causal Silence Turiya / Fourth Turiya / Fourth Consciousness / Self / Atman AbsoluteReality The one great vibration: One comes to experience that the four aspects of AUM, the vibration of the universe, the object that goes with OM mantra, the flow with the breath, and the countless pulsings of the gross and subtle, are all manifestations of that one great vibration that is represented by OM mantra. Unity of the methods: In practicing the seven methods above, it is best to focus on one at a time, so as to capture its individual meaning and experience. Eventually, the unity of the methods is experienced. Gururbrahmaa gururvishnuh gururdevo Maheswarah |Guruh-saakshaat parabrahma tasmai shrigurave namah || Om,Rajyalaxmi> > rvemurin > Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:40:29 +0000> Subject: Re: om> > > Respected Prashant,> How to chant OM? Whether in the heart or louder? Kindly emphasise.> > Regards.> V.Raamam.> > > > , "prashant_upaa" > <prashant_upaa wrote:> >> > Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all > mantras. I > > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > > mental strength and energy.> > > > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > > > With regards,> > Prashant Upadhyay> > > > > > --- In , "rvemurin" > > <rvemurin@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Readers,> > > > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra > deeksha > > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can > any > > > devotee clarify it?> > > > > > Regards.> > > Raamam.> > > > > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear readers,> > > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > > just > > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > > chant > > > this > > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > > > om> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I would really like to know, how you keep count of the number of times OM is repeated because if you really keep count of 108 or 10,000 times, we would really not have concentrated on telling the matra with full devotion. If we fully devote ourselves in telling the OM mantra closing our eyes and thinking nothing but feeling the vibration of OM, then you would really not be able to count the number of times a OM or mantra is repeated. Unless a mantra is repeated with no thought and just feeling the vibration of the mantra, we would not be able to gain the benefit from repeating the mantra. Please shed some light on this.....anyone. Prashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa wrote: Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Pranam Devotees, Counting of mantra is for beginners like us!! Highly enlightened people really do not have to look for counting at all. They go into trance when they do it. There are different levels of meditation too. We can juts salute and give ovations to these highly realized individuals. They have shown us the path. whatever no of time we do we need to do it in substantial nos. You can either use a clock to keep a check or use Mala to chant Pranava. But please make sure that it is substantial My be at least 15 mins at a sitting. One has to be consistent and regular in doing this then only you can start realizing the benefit of this. For us You can you use some mala or can use Kar-mala( Use your both palm fingers for counting-there is way described in some books). As far as I am concerned I am working person and I carve out as much time as I can, for chanting OM. It gives me immense peace and energy and I feel more focused after doing this. Believe me there is a lot of difference between talking theory and doing it practically. Once you start doing it rest of things will follow through. Om Namah Shivay! Om Tat Sat!! Prashant Upadhyay devasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us wrote: I would really like to know, how you keep count of the number of times OM is repeated because if you really keep count of 108 or 10,000 times, we would really not have concentrated on telling the matra with full devotion. If we fully devote ourselves in telling the OM mantra closing our eyes and thinking nothing but feeling the vibration of OM, then you would really not be able to count the number of times a OM or mantra is repeated. Unless a mantra is repeated with no thought and just feeling the vibration of the mantra, we would not be able to gain the benefit from repeating the mantra. Please shed some light on this.....anyone. Prashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Apologies for not introducing myself. I am Deva and I live in Pearland, Texas, close to Sri Meenakshi temple. Thanks for the tip. Setting up the clock for repeating the OM mantra seems to be a better option. Regds,DevaPrashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa wrote: Pranam Devotees, Counting of mantra is for beginners like us!! Highly enlightened people really do not have to look for counting at all. They go into trance when they do it. There are different levels of meditation too. We can juts salute and give ovations to these highly realized individuals. They have shown us the path. whatever no of time we do we need to do it in substantial nos. You can either use a clock to keep a check or use Mala to chant Pranava. But please make sure that it is substantial My be at least 15 mins at a sitting. One has to be consistent and regular in doing this then only you can start realizing the benefit of this. For us You can you use some mala or can use Kar-mala( Use your both palm fingers for counting-there is way described in some books). As far as I am concerned I am working person and I carve out as much time as I can, for chanting OM. It gives me immense peace and energy and I feel more focused after doing this. Believe me there is a lot of difference between talking theory and doing it practically. Once you start doing it rest of things will follow through. Om Namah Shivay! Om Tat Sat!! Prashant Upadhyay devasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: I would really like to know, how you keep count of the number of times OM is repeated because if you really keep count of 108 or 10,000 times, we would really not have concentrated on telling the matra with full devotion. If we fully devote ourselves in telling the OM mantra closing our eyes and thinking nothing but feeling the vibration of OM, then you would really not be able to count the number of times a OM or mantra is repeated. Unless a mantra is repeated with no thought and just feeling the vibration of the mantra, we would not be able to gain the benefit from repeating the mantra. Please shed some light on this.....anyone. Prashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Namaste A simple way of counting is like this:Get a clock and set it to be exactly 1 minute before any hour beginsSit and begin to recite (on both in breath and out breath) while counting the Japa with a mala and a pen and paper.Every time you reach 108 record a tick on the paper.Exactly at the end of the hour stop and count the number you have reached.Remove 1 quarter of the total amount ( for distractions, poor concentration etc.)The remaining number is considered as the number that you can effectively do in an hour. Divide this number by sixty to get what you can do in one minute.Then whenever you do Japa, note the time you start and when you finish.Then multiply the time by the amount you can do in one minute to know how much you did in a given period of time (without needing to manually count with Mala or anything else). This improves your concentration on the mantra as you are not distracted by anything.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajdevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us wrote: Apologies for not introducing myself. I am Deva and I live in Pearland, Texas, close to Sri Meenakshi temple. Thanks for the tip. Setting up the clock for repeating the OM mantra seems to be a better option. Regds,DevaPrashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Counting of mantra is for beginners like us!! Highly enlightened people really do not have to look for counting at all. They go into trance when they do it. There are different levels of meditation too. We can juts salute and give ovations to these highly realized individuals. They have shown us the path. whatever no of time we do we need to do it in substantial nos. You can either use a clock to keep a check or use Mala to chant Pranava. But please make sure that it is substantial My be at least 15 mins at a sitting. One has to be consistent and regular in doing this then only you can start realizing the benefit of this. For us You can you use some mala or can use Kar-mala( Use your both palm fingers for counting-there is way described in some books). As far as I am concerned I am working person and I carve out as much time as I can, for chanting OM. It gives me immense peace and energy and I feel more focused after doing this. Believe me there is a lot of difference between talking theory and doing it practically. Once you start doing it rest of things will follow through. Om Namah Shivay! Om Tat Sat!! Prashant Upadhyay devasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: I would really like to know, how you keep count of the number of times OM is repeated because if you really keep count of 108 or 10,000 times, we would really not have concentrated on telling the matra with full devotion. If we fully devote ourselves in telling the OM mantra closing our eyes and thinking nothing but feeling the vibration of OM, then you would really not be able to count the number of times a OM or mantra is repeated. Unless a mantra is repeated with no thought and just feeling the vibration of the mantra, we would not be able to gain the benefit from repeating the mantra. Please shed some light on this.....anyone. Prashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Thats right. Thanks Devindraji. This is a nice and easy way to keep the count of repeating the OM mantra. Regds, DevaDev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: Namaste A simple way of counting is like this:Get a clock and set it to be exactly 1 minute before any hour beginsSit and begin to recite (on both in breath and out breath) while counting the Japa with a mala and a pen and paper.Every time you reach 108 record a tick on the paper.Exactly at the end of the hour stop and count the number you have reached.Remove 1 quarter of the total amount ( for distractions, poor concentration etc.)The remaining number is considered as the number that you can effectively do in an hour. Divide this number by sixty to get what you can do in one minute.Then whenever you do Japa, note the time you start and when you finish.Then multiply the time by the amount you can do in one minute to know how much you did in a given period of time (without needing to manually count with Mala or anything else). This improves your concentration on the mantra as you are not distracted by anything.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajdevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Apologies for not introducing myself. I am Deva and I live in Pearland, Texas, close to Sri Meenakshi temple. Thanks for the tip. Setting up the clock for repeating the OM mantra seems to be a better option. Regds,DevaPrashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Counting of mantra is for beginners like us!! Highly enlightened people really do not have to look for counting at all. They go into trance when they do it. There are different levels of meditation too. We can juts salute and give ovations to these highly realized individuals. They have shown us the path. whatever no of time we do we need to do it in substantial nos. You can either use a clock to keep a check or use Mala to chant Pranava. But please make sure that it is substantial My be at least 15 mins at a sitting. One has to be consistent and regular in doing this then only you can start realizing the benefit of this. For us You can you use some mala or can use Kar-mala( Use your both palm fingers for counting-there is way described in some books). As far as I am concerned I am working person and I carve out as much time as I can, for chanting OM. It gives me immense peace and energy and I feel more focused after doing this. Believe me there is a lot of difference between talking theory and doing it practically. Once you start doing it rest of things will follow through. Om Namah Shivay! Om Tat Sat!! Prashant Upadhyay devasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: I would really like to know, how you keep count of the number of times OM is repeated because if you really keep count of 108 or 10,000 times, we would really not have concentrated on telling the matra with full devotion. If we fully devote ourselves in telling the OM mantra closing our eyes and thinking nothing but feeling the vibration of OM, then you would really not be able to count the number of times a OM or mantra is repeated. Unless a mantra is repeated with no thought and just feeling the vibration of the mantra, we would not be able to gain the benefit from repeating the mantra. Please shed some light on this.....anyone. Prashant Upadhyay <prashant_upaa > wrote: Pranam Devotees, Lord Shiva is supreme manifestation of God, OM and worshipping him can help you realise that almighty much faster than any other method. For thousands of years people have relied on this OM Namah Shivay mantra. But I believe when you reach higher in upasana you tend to realise the Nirguna swarupa of GOD, which is represnted by OM in Hindus. As Baba Totapuri did To Swami Ramkrishna Paramhansa, he helped him to initiate in into Nirvikalpa Samadhi. OM is the spund which one listens in Turiya state of samashi.That's why mots of the mantras in sanskrit contain OM. Mandukyopanishad is devoted entirely to OM. Chant 108 or 10000 times, whatever your time allows you, but surely it will give you more peace , power and happiness!! Om Namah Shivay! Om tat sat!! Om Shanti!! Regards, Prashant Upadhyaydevasenapathy dhandapani <deva_21us > wrote: Namaste devotees, As far as I have read, "Om Namah Shivaya" is stated as the liberating mantra. This mantra governs all the chakras in the body. Also, wearing a rudraksha and chanting this mantra is even more powerful. It is said that circumambulation of the Thirvanamalai Hill (which is said to be Lord Shiva himself) on a new moon day chanting "Om Namah Shivaya" gives liberation. Regards, Devabhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: Om Namah SivayaNamaste,I have read that the elongated chanting of Om (about 15 seconds per OM) is the most powerful Om. I am not sure if only Sanyasis can do it or it is open to all.regards,Shailendra , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:>> Namaste> > This while it sounds easy is really not so easy, I have chanted Aum for over 2 million times over a 16 year period. I am neither liberated nor am I Siddha.> Theoretically according to Mantra Shastra I am supposed to be a Siddha.> The benefit was that I was able to clear a lot of old samskaras and Karmic baggage. Despite all my efforts, Lord Shiva kept me at the level of > Sadhaka. The lesson is that HE will tell you when you are qualified to be Siddha or to attain liberation ! Don't let this stop or daunt you though, the benefits are tremendous ! > > PS. 108 times per day is only to get your finger and joint moving.....lol > try 10,000/day then you will experience a whole new level of awareness.> > Namah Sivaya> Best Regards> Pandit Devidnra Maharaj> > > Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > Dear Sir, "Om Itekasharam Brahma" says Bhagawat Geeta. OM is the name of the all pervading, nameless, formless, absolute PARABRAHMAN. A Mumukshu, a person who wants Moksha, complete relief from this Samsara--Punarapi Jananam ,Punaapli Maranam --has to chant this highest Manthra, which is Hamsa Manthra. People who have wordly ambitions can select a Mantra suitable to Vyakti with the grace of Guru and Ishwara for which Ishwara Upasana is the only way and when time comes he can enter in to Bhrhmopasana. > Hari.Venkataraman> > prashant_upaa <prashant_upaa wrote:> Yes!Om is very powerful mantra and contains essence of all mantras. I > do chant OM daily 108 times and believe me it gives me tremendous > mental strength and energy.> > I think one can chant Om irrespective of if Deeksha or Not. With > Deeksha you will get better results and achieve awakening of > Kundalini fast. But It will work without deeksha too.> > With regards,> Prashant Upadhyay> > , "rvemurin" > <rvemurin@> wrote:> >> > Dear Readers,> > > > It is told that Pranavopasana is meant for sanyasis.Manthra deeksha > > should be given by guru only whether it is om or any mantra.Can any > > devotee clarify it?> > > > Regards.> > Raamam.> > > > > > , "manel_ush" > > <manel_ush@> wrote:> > >> > > dear readers,> > > om is a very powerful mantra start a day with chanting om and > > just > > > watch the positive emergy which flows around u.Every morning > chant > > this > > > mantra 108times and watch your wishes will fulfilled.> > > > > > om> > >> >> > > > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 This is a wonderful way to keep track of using Om. Thank you. Celeste __________ Namaste A simple way of counting is like this:Get a clock and set it to be exactly 1 minute before any hour beginsSit and begin to recite (on both in breath and out breath) while counting the Japa with a mala and a pen and paper.Every time you reach 108 record a tick on the paper.Exactly at the end of the hour stop and count the number you have reached.Remove 1 quarter of the total amount ( for distractions, poor concentration etc.)The remaining number is considered as the number that you can effectively do in an hour. Divide this number by sixty to get what you can do in one minute.Then whenever you do Japa, note the time you start and when you finish.Then multiply the time by the amount you can do in one minute to know how much you did in a given period of time (without needing to manually count with Mala or anything else). This improves your concentration on the mantra as you are not distracted by anything.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharaj"You can chain me, you can torture me, you can even destroy this body, but you will never imprison my mind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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