Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 This made perfect sense and is why I began the Sacred K list.I also used to get very caught up in which direction was North,did I have the correct pointed crystal now exactly what position are the hands in for this reiki thing,what was that name of that angel I was to invoke?, until one day I caught up with myself and said whoa!!!Things were happening but it wasn't because of all of the tools,which can be very useful to bring one to a heightened awareness.One of my goals over the last couple years is to be able to do it with no tools,(Isn't that how the Master did it?)(It being healings) I admit,there is a part of me that stills loves all the accoutraments involved in saying Mass.And six candles instead of two ahhhh etc.And just one whiff of frankincense and I'm there! !And then I re-picture the last Supper and see once again,leave the tools,remember the message.When one " stands " in The Presence there is only a physical body and the soul. Thanks for bringing that back to my mind. Blessings. + M merlin wrote: > > merlin > > At 06:38 PM 11/30/98 +0000, you wrote: > MAureen wrote: > >> These extremely powerful Love forces of the Christ,Buddha or others > >> are of such a level that the first instinct,when encountered is simply > >> soul shock....and what does this have to do > >> with kundalini?The Fire of Divine Love the Sacredness of it?Handling > >> symptoms,realigning chakras,getting the nerve to nerve connections > >> smooth,connecting the mind/heart,all these are excellent and necessary > >> preparations to be able to " stand " in the Presence. > > Thanks for your words, Maureen. > When I first read them, my instinctive > response was: Oh. Of course. Then I stopped and re-read. They are another > and timely reminder that the decorations on the tree aren't Christmas, > the costumes in the ritual aren't the purpose, the symptoms of the journey > aren't the reason. > I do tend to get distracted from my purpose, which is to live in the > Presence. I forget and take the journey itself personally. Umm. DOesn't feel > like I'm being very coherent here. Oh well. Maybe I'll go out and get to work. > DOn't need to talk to do clay! > love, > Blythe > > ------ > Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or > service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit > /advert.html for more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 At 06:38 PM 11/30/98 +0000, you wrote: MAureen wrote: >> These extremely powerful Love forces of the Christ,Buddha or others >> are of such a level that the first instinct,when encountered is simply >> soul shock....and what does this have to do >> with kundalini?The Fire of Divine Love the Sacredness of it?Handling >> symptoms,realigning chakras,getting the nerve to nerve connections >> smooth,connecting the mind/heart,all these are excellent and necessary >> preparations to be able to " stand " in the Presence. Thanks for your words, Maureen. When I first read them, my instinctive response was: Oh. Of course. Then I stopped and re-read. They are another and timely reminder that the decorations on the tree aren't Christmas, the costumes in the ritual aren't the purpose, the symptoms of the journey aren't the reason. I do tend to get distracted from my purpose, which is to live in the Presence. I forget and take the journey itself personally. Umm. DOesn't feel like I'm being very coherent here. Oh well. Maybe I'll go out and get to work. DOn't need to talk to do clay! love, Blythe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 merlin wrote: Oh well. Maybe I'll go out and get to work. > DOn't need to talk to do clay! > love, > Blythe It talks to you in a wonderful way. Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 At 12:21 PM 12/1/98 -0500, you wrote: > >It talks to you in a wonderful way. > >Antoine > I love you. Blythe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 >Maureen Heffernan <morlight > >This made perfect sense and is why I began the Sacred K list.I also used >to get very caught up in which direction was North,did I have the >correct pointed crystal now exactly what position are the hands in for >this reiki thing,what was that name of that angel I was to invoke?, >until one day I caught up with myself and said whoa!!!Things were >happening but it wasn't because of all of the tools,which can be very >useful to bring one to a heightened awareness.One of my goals over the >last couple years is to be able to do it with no tools,(Isn't that how >the Master did it?)(It being healings) I agree totally with this, It has been my practice to stay away from ritual and tools, only because I have some inner sense that they are not for me. I grew quite well without them and I found that the more I found the answers within myself and lived this truth the more I grew and came to understand. I just finished a meditation where there was no strong focus, no expectation, just being there in the silence and not noticing the color just knowing it was there, and it was quite different. I even recieved some words that came out of the blue and they were, " I invoke Divine Truth " and I feel that is what we do when we leave all behind but ourselves, we invoke Divine Truth, it was so cool. Divine Truth Lives Within Flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 At 02:10 PM 12/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > " Florence Slaunwhite " <mslaun > > > >>Maureen Heffernan <morlight >> >>Things were >>happening but it wasn't because of all of the tools,which can be very >>useful to bring one to a heightened awareness.One of my goals over the >>last couple years is to be able to do it with no tools,(Isn't that how >>the Master did it?)(It being healings) > > > >I agree totally with this, It has been my practice to stay away from ritual >and tools, only because I have some inner sense that they are not for me. I >grew quite well without them and I found that the more I found the answers >within myself and lived this truth the more I grew and came to understand. > >I just finished a meditation where there was no strong focus, no >expectation, just being there in the silence and not noticing the color just >knowing it was there, and it was quite different. I even recieved some words >that came out of the blue and they were, " I invoke Divine Truth " and I feel >that is what we do when we leave all behind but ourselves, we invoke Divine >Truth, it was so cool. > >Divine Truth Lives Within >Flow > When I was 13, & my brother was 16, we spent the better part of a year going in to speak with our family minister. What we were asking him revolved around something we both felt strongly: why should we sit in a church every week listening to someone tell us what God and Jesus required of us, when we could sit quietly and ask Them directly. That wise man eventually told us we sounded like Quakers and that we should go to Meeting before coming back to talk with him. He gave us bus schedules and directions and called Cleveland Friends Meeting to tell them he was sending us. I went and didn't look back for almost 30 years. Even when my husband and I began drumming and entering altered states through drumming, I approached it as a Quaker: minimal trappings. It is only in the last few years that I have begun to study ritual and to allow that it has a place in spiritual practice. I had become attached to plainess in lieu of trappings. Both have their purposes, yet neither matters. When I craft a ritual, I ask for quidance in what will speak most deeply to those present. Lacking the weight of historic context in much of what I do, I look instead to speak to the pre-verbal parts of us, to cause others to open up to *-----* by whatever name they experience *----*. Normally I can avoid concern about whether I am using the appropriate this or that. Where I get caught up and tripped is over times of luminous bliss, flowings of love, experiences of transcendence, moments when I Know i can lay my hands on another and heal them... but forget that I may not have to wisdom to know if this is for their/my/our highest good. I get puffed up. I tell myself that it is just that some donkeys require frequent carrots to keep them moving on their right path...but there is still a bit of me taking all these experiences very personally, being attached to them nd judging myself as 'spiritually advanced' because of them. I think it was Chogyam Trungpa hwo used the phrase 'spiritual materialism'. That catches me. Human relationships also catch me into being unbalanced and attached to my attachments. Still haven't gotten out to do clay. Maybe now. It's the thought of having to put on all that raingear to go work in a cold old barn/studio, when the house is so warm(finally got the fire to start). rainy blessings! Blythe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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