Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

[Guest guest]

Hi Fre,

 

> This evening I started feeling bad, angry, useless etc. Other

> practices like Hatha Yoga before just made me feel happy and peaceful.

> Can someone explain why I feel bad after the practice?

> Is this temporary?

I think your instincts on this are probably good. This is the point

where many people run away! Kundalini yoga can 'bite' deep and fast.

Most people like me believe this is old repressed emotion being

stirred up and leaving you. It can be rather hard to know if the

emotion comes from the past and is being released or whether it comes

from right now - in fact there may not be much difference!

It passes and you will feel lighter and more free and happier.

The way I look at it this is a price we pay - you pay that price once

and you get the benefit of the release for the rest of your life - it

is well worth it!

 

> What do I do best? Sleep? I must say I just want to eat now

> and drink some beer to make the bad feeling go away, but that's

> fleeing for inner fears...no?

These feelings can be strong after very intense yoga - like the White

Tantric. Yogi Bhajan said eat a pizza! I think this means you can

reward yourself with a treat (maybe even a bottle of Kwak?) because it

really is something special to go through this.

There are many 'somatic' systems and such emotional reactions can

happen in them all - people do cry in other types of yoga. The

difference is in most other systems the reactions are less common and

less powerful and are sort of ignored or played down. In kundalini

yoga most of us seek out these reactions and celebrate them because we

know they are a sign of fast beneficial change.

We may be a little crazy to do this or we may be brave and able to

face ourselves and accept what must happen because we know that joy

lies beyond it.

There are many yogic techniques. Yogi Bhajan gave us some of the more

obscure ones that give us the tools to change as fast as we want or

can handle. So you have a choice - it is wonderful that we have this

choice.

 

You will find a wonderful loving bond with other yogins that have

shared this experience.

Happiness and Loving Blessings,

Keith.

 

PS > bad, angry, useless

Thats it indeed! They are our just emotions and thoughts and feelings.

They come and go - they are not our everything.

[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

I want to second this response.

And also thank you, because I need this reminder!

 

I also practice Hatha Yoga and feel very good after. And with

Kundalini Yoga, I always find strong emotions are raised up.

 

I may feel very powerful, then very small.

Sometimes it is hard to realize these emotions arise from our practice

[and of course they do not always arise from our practice, sometimes

living just causes emotional responses].

 

We may assume that doing Kundalini Yoga will have us always feeling

serene, such is not the case.

When I moved into an ashram and I was practicing every day, sometimes

twice a day, I found myself one day in class - sobbing! Sobbing so

loud, I left the class so as not to disturb.

My friends in the ashram told me I was dealing with emotions which had

arisen due to being in the House of Ram Dass.

 

I suggest to people who experience the Wham of Kundalini Yoga - if you

can, visit an ashram and talk to people there, or post here, or find

other people practicing and talk about what arises.

It is important to know you are not alone, or 'weird' in your response.

Also - there is no " right " or " appropriate " response. It depends on

who you are, what are you starting with.

I know in my case, I have a lot of stuff from the past I have never

dealt with.

And I second Keith, from another e-mail, who says, the answer is " Do

more yoga " !

 

Kartar Kaur

 

 

> I think your instincts on this are probably good. This is the point

> where many people run away! Kundalini yoga can 'bite' deep and fast.

> Most people like me believe this is old repressed emotion being

> stirred up and leaving you. It can be rather hard to know if the

> emotion comes from the past and is being released or whether it comes

> from right now - in fact there may not be much difference!

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > This evening I started feeling bad, angry, useless etc. Other

> > practices like Hatha Yoga before just made me feel happy and peaceful.

> > Can someone explain why I feel bad after the practice?

> > Is this temporary?

 

I wanted to share that I have experienced something similar, although

in my case the changes took the shape of extreme awareness, truly the

ability to see things as they really are...however instead of calmly

watching and staying detached from these observations, I proceeded to

lash out at my partner, (the nearest person; I'm sure it would have

been anybody else who just happened to be nearby!) who was most

certainly undeserving of the treatment he was receiving! I was

lashing out at him for our circumstances, various character flaws of

his and others, etc., etc. This is very uncharacteristic of me -- I

have always been a " nice " people pleaser.

 

I found the more yoga I did, the " worse " this got; if I quit for a

while I retreated back into maya, and I seemed more " happy "

 

I see that my ability to see truth and my ability to HANDLE it are not

necessarily on the same continuum.

 

I have let this all go, and I am now finding that I can be happy and

content and still have my illusions shattered. This is true growth.

 

I know that with the technology of KY I will grow to the point where

any truth will be painless. I am not afraid; I will embrace the truth

no matter what it may be.

 

So my advice would be to lean into those feelings and know they are

showing you the technology is working. If you need to give it a rest

for a while; that's okay, too. The progress will continue, much like

when you can solve a difficult problem after laying it aside for a

while and seemingly not thinking about it at all -- somewhere your

unconscious is still pondering.

 

Wahe Guru!

 

Hari Shabad Kaur

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam

 

 

I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's why we sometimes feel,

irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control emotions, everything can be

so wonderful, but it takes a long time to control them, and mostly cause they

are being enhanced by the energy.

 

Normally the Kundalini energy while being activated, makes people feel so

touchy, and so bad. Most of the times we are taken by the energy, without our

permission, sometimes we are not even aware of its presence, so for me its an

aggressive form of awakening. But once we learn to control it, its wonderful.

But it can take a real long time to learn how to control it.

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

I see it differently. I don't want to control my emotions - to me that

sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive.

 

I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are more refined.

perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate.

 

I am not speaking from experience.

 

I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: " irritable, mad

sad " and more.

 

....Just my speculation.

 

Kartar Kaur

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , neli neilim <neli_nelis wrote:

>

> Sat Nam

>

>

> I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's why we sometimes

feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control emotions,

everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to control

them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the energy.

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

We have sooooo many thoughts that our conscious mind can only hold on to so

much,especially when we don't deal with it... and then it gets dumped into the

subconscious & when that get's full it get's loaded into the unconscious mind.

with Kundalini Yoga my understanding is that when we work on ourselves it

reaches way down deep into the subconscious and unconscious mind...which is

where alot of our " Shtuff " is, and so when this stirs we feel it.

It's a good thing because we want to get rid of all our unnecessary shtuff that

no longer serves us...I find that when it comes up to recognize it for what it

is, and let it go, release it, don't hold on to it...

just a thought (:

Sat Naam Jiwan Shakti Kaur

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, rasheedaas <rasheedaas wrote:

 

> rasheedaas <rasheedaas

> Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

> Kundaliniyoga

> Thursday, November 20, 2008, 3:43 PM

> Sat nam,

> I see it differently. I don't want to control my

> emotions - to me that

> sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive.

>

> I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are

> more refined.

> perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate.

>

> I am not speaking from experience.

>

> I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below:

> " irritable, mad

> sad " and more.

>

> ...Just my speculation.

>

> Kartar Kaur

>

>

>

> Kundaliniyoga , neli neilim

> <neli_nelis wrote:

> >

> > Sat Nam

> >

> >

> > I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's

> why we sometimes

> feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control

> emotions,

> everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to

> control

> them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the

> energy.

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, KY really stirs up your " stuff " ! It's there all the time, just

normally ignored or suppressed under day to day living, but when I did

a so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that

this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the

background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it. So maybe

it's a work in progress to get it out and processed and neutralized, at

whatever speed we are able to handle.

 

There are some different anger sets around. Guru Rattana has one in her

on-line library that really gave me results I could feel within hours,

and is not too difficult at all. Remember that depression is said to be

anger turned inward, so if depression kriyas aren't really working for

you, try an anger kriya!

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do

K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The

auric field , Electro magnetic field and  the dome that surrounds me gets

brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the

synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come

faster too. Sat Nam Lily

 

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, wolfsister harmony <wolfsister_harmony wrote:

wolfsister harmony <wolfsister_harmony

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

Kundaliniyoga

Thursday, November 20, 2008, 5:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have sooooo many thoughts that our conscious mind can only hold on to so

much,especially when we don't deal with it... and then it gets dumped into the

subconscious & when that get's full it get's loaded into the unconscious mind.

 

with Kundalini Yoga my understanding is that when we work on ourselves it

reaches way down deep into the subconscious and unconscious mind...which is

where alot of our " Shtuff " is, and so when this stirs we feel it.

 

It's a good thing because we want to get rid of all our unnecessary shtuff that

no longer serves us...I find that when it comes up to recognize it for what it

is, and let it go, release it, don't hold on to it...

 

just a thought (:

 

Sat Naam Jiwan Shakti Kaur

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, rasheedaas <rasheedaas > wrote:

 

 

 

> rasheedaas <rasheedaas >

 

> Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

 

> Kundaliniyoga

 

> Thursday, November 20, 2008, 3:43 PM

 

> Sat nam,

 

> I see it differently. I don't want to control my

 

> emotions - to me that

 

> sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive.

 

>

 

> I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are

 

> more refined.

 

> perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate.

 

>

 

> I am not speaking from experience.

 

>

 

> I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below:

 

> " irritable, mad

 

> sad " and more.

 

>

 

> ...Just my speculation.

 

>

 

> Kartar Kaur

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Kundaliniyoga, neli neilim

 

> <neli_nelis@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Sat Nam

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's

 

> why we sometimes

 

> feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control

 

> emotions,

 

> everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to

 

> control

 

> them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the

 

> energy.

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

[Guest guest]

> rasheedaas <rasheedaas

> I don't want to control my emotions

At the moment I think of my emotions as being 'served up' by my subconcious.

 

> with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are more refined.

> perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate.

Some of my emotions are reactions to current events. These get less negative as

yoga calms me down. Our first line of reaction is fight-or-flight/aversion

reflexes, fear, anger, hostility. As you calm down these become less powerful

and then we experience more our second line of reactions - which is more

compassionate and co-operative.

But most emotion comes from past reactions that have not been released (karmic

reactivity). We have tensed up & repressed things but as our lives lack proper

quiet our natural 'meditative' release systems fail to work. We stir up this

release with yoga and up comes emotion from the depths.

What I think is that most of our 'emotion' is in our subconcious. All that comes

up is stuff we felt a long time ago - but we repressed it and maybe even didn't

even notice we felt like that at the time - especially for a macho bloke like

me. How spooky! All this sadness and loneliness of a badly loved little boy who

denied his own feelings at the time.

 

> I am not speaking from experience.

Just innate wisdom then?

 

> I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: " irritable,

> mad sad " and more.

And there is layer upon layer upon layer - I expect never to get to the bottom

of it.

I sense these emotions and think - is this current feeling or is it old stuff

coming up? Often I don't know - I don't understand my subconcious. But if I can

make myself sad by manipulating my spine what am I. A machine that makes

emotions? My emotions are just concious sensing of my internal processing. They

'touch' my shallow self but not the 'deeper self' that lies outside all this

commotion. My emotions and feelings need not consume me - they are just stuff -

my processing. These days when i get yoga sad I also get this really beautiful

feeling that it's all a part of me - lovely feelings and awful ones. But so many

of the awful ones will be felt once then never again because I am stopping

repressing new stuff (partially!) and emptying out the old stuff. So more & more

lovely feelings. Nice.

It seems like there are stages beyond this bad that is not for me for now - and

maybe not ever. Who knows?

Keith.

[Guest guest]

--- On Fri, 11/21/08, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote:

ramneetfl <ramneetfl

> so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that

> this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the

> background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it.

Maybe they couldn't hear it but do you notice that people react to you

differently when some of that stuff has gone?

 

Its this stuff that blights the modern world. Peoples emotions and opinions are

polluted by it - it spoils our lives in many ways. FM Alexander (of the

Alexander Technique) called modern man 'This Poor Creature'. His brain gave him

the power to build civilisation but is structured in such a way he can't analyse

himself. He can't see that the pace and choices and sensory bombardment of life

overwhelms him and he becomes clogged up with repressed stuff.

Only a tiny percentage of people find their way to the 'somatic' systems that

let them unravel this mess.

Part of Kundalini yoga is one of the best systems ever invented to help us with

this. It is one of human-kinds greatest achievements - precious knowledge.

I have hopes that western science (thru the theories of harmonic resonance and

CEMI(?)) will start to back yoga and this will allow many more people to get its

benefits. Just hopes. This stuff has been around for ever and never grasped by

many peopel. I guess my own grasp of it is only partial too.

 

Keith.

[Guest guest]

How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har Kaur

 

In a message dated 11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

lilygoodale writes:

 

Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time

i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating .

The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets

brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the

synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come

faster too. Sat Nam Lily

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oh so true- people may not " hear it " , but they sense it in our auras.

Some are more sensitive than others and some are more magnanimous

about our " stuff " , but imagine when you've gotten rid of it; how

brightly your aura will shine!

 

Kundaliniyoga , Keith Bacon <biftonb wrote:

>

>

>

> --- On Fri, 11/21/08, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote:

> ramneetfl <ramneetfl

> > so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that

> > this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the

> > background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it.

> Maybe they couldn't hear it but do you notice that people react to

you differently when some of that stuff has gone?

>

> Its this stuff that blights the modern world. Peoples emotions and

opinions are polluted by it - it spoils our lives in many ways. FM

Alexander (of the Alexander Technique) called modern man 'This Poor

Creature'. His brain gave him the power to build civilisation but is

structured in such a way he can't analyse himself. He can't see that

the pace and choices and sensory bombardment of life overwhelms him

and he becomes clogged up with repressed stuff.

> Only a tiny percentage of people find their way to the 'somatic'

systems that let them unravel this mess.

> Part of Kundalini yoga is one of the best systems ever invented to

help us with this. It is one of human-kinds greatest achievements -

precious knowledge.

> I have hopes that western science (thru the theories of harmonic

resonance and CEMI(?)) will start to back yoga and this will allow

many more people to get its benefits. Just hopes. This stuff has been

around for ever and never grasped by many peopel. I guess my own grasp

of it is only partial too.

>

> Keith.

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the classes, because I

feel better, my energy go up, ecc...

Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the classes somebody

cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few minuts, somebody scream with

other students, so I have a very different people, nervous or very calm, but

everybody feel something very strong with their emotion after the yoga kundalini

classes. Everyting is good, everyting is God.

Light and love.

 

www.yogaluna.eu

Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli)

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008

14:11:32 -0500Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after

Kundalini Yoga

 

 

 

How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a message dated

11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes:Sat

Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K

yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric

field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and

brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen

more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam

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[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it creates other

problem(s) you don't know!

This is typical reaction like those cry, scream and behave like mad after the

practice. If they can handle well, that's fine. But if they can't, they will

carry the problem and suffer more! The problem is the teacher / master may not

be able to solve the problem completely or cleanly, the residual of the problem

will still make life difficult for those being stirred up. Say we have 50 people

practise KY and 47 of them getting better and reap the benefit of KY. But among

them 2-3 people got problem. These will essentially overwhelm the benefit gain

by the 47 people. KY is potentially dangerous and I think all practitioners

should aware of this. The act of raising Kundalini or stirr up the stuff buried

within each of us must be handle very carefully and willingly.

Infact, it is not a problem if kundalini raise by itself without the hope of

practice KY daily to raise it. This is because in the fantasy of kundalini,

people often has one's desire/mind mix into it. However, if you can clean up

your own desire(s) in the midst of kundalini energy and feel the relationship

between your real self (the knower) and the kundalini energy, nothing of those

kundalini is so mysterous when it become your known things. The power lies in

the knower, not the known kundalini! You will find those kundalini energy turn

into light the body shine and people arround you found that things arround could

be change..

Blessing!

Rainbow

 

-

Paola Natangeli

kundaliniyoga kundaliniyoga

Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:53 PM

RE: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

 

 

 

Sat Nam,

I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the classes, because I

feel better, my energy go up, ecc...

Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the classes

somebody cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few minuts, somebody scream

with other students, so I have a very different people, nervous or very calm,

but everybody feel something very strong with their emotion after the yoga

kundalini classes. Everyting is good, everyting is God.

Light and love.

 

www.yogaluna.eu

Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli)

 

Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008

14:11:32 -0500Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after

Kundalini Yoga

 

How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a message dated

11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes:Sat

Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K

yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric

field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and

brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen

more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam

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[Guest guest]

Milk can be dangerous: if you put your nose in a bowl of milk and try

to breathe you will drown.

 

There are many practices around that call themselves Kundalini Yoga.

Perhaps some of them ARE dangerous. Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi

Bhajan and the teachers who follow him is not dangerous.

 

I have been in this community for 30 years, and no one has ever

experienced any ill effects.

 

I suggest anyone who is interested be sure that the Kundalini Yoga

they are practicing is as taught by Yogi Bhajan. If you don't like it,

fine, but you will not face any danger from it.

 

Some people will have small effects and some will have large effects,

but all can be dealt with.

 

 

Sat nam,

Kartar Kaur

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , Jasmine <raintree wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

> KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it

creates other problem(s) you don't know!

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jasmine,

I want to apologize for my previous post concerning the dangers of KY.

I over-reacted to you, the reason is - there are people who try to

dissuade people from doing KY- say it will make you crazy, etc.

 

In trying to leap to the defense of this wonderful practice, I

over-did it and I hope I did not offend.

 

I realize now that what you are saying is true- there can be great

effects brought about by KY and people should be prepared for them.

 

Regards,

Sat nam,

Kartar Kaur

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , Jasmine <raintree wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

> KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it

creates other problem(s) you don't know!

> This is typical reaction like those cry, scream and behave like mad

after the practice. If they can handle well, that's fine. But if they

can't, they will carry the problem and suffer more! The problem is the

teacher / master may not be able to solve the problem completely or

cleanly, the residual of the problem will still make life difficult

for those being stirred up. Say we have 50 people practise KY and 47

of them getting better and reap the benefit of KY. But among them 2-3

people got problem. These will essentially overwhelm the benefit gain

by the 47 people. KY is potentially dangerous and I think all

practitioners should aware of this. The act of raising Kundalini or

stirr up the stuff buried within each of us must be handle very

carefully and willingly.

> Infact, it is not a problem if kundalini raise by itself without the

hope of practice KY daily to raise it. This is because in the fantasy

of kundalini, people often has one's desire/mind mix into it. However,

if you can clean up your own desire(s) in the midst of kundalini

energy and feel the relationship between your real self (the knower)

and the kundalini energy, nothing of those kundalini is so mysterous

when it become your known things. The power lies in the knower, not

the known kundalini! You will find those kundalini energy turn into

light the body shine and people arround you found that things arround

could be change..

> Blessing!

> Rainbow

>

> -

> Paola Natangeli

> kundaliniyoga kundaliniyoga

> Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:53 PM

> RE: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after

Kundalini Yoga

>

>

>

> Sat Nam,

> I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the

classes, because I feel better, my energy go up, ecc...

> Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the

classes somebody cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few

minuts, somebody scream with other students, so I have a very

different people, nervous or very calm, but everybody feel something

very strong with their emotion after the yoga kundalini classes.

Everyting is good, everyting is God.

> Light and love.

>

> www.yogaluna.eu

> Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli)

>

> Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:11:32

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> How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a

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you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside

and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic

field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as

things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more

and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat

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[Guest guest]

Hello, I have never added to this list of discussions before. I just have

to say that I have only been practicing KY for around six months and my

experience, emotionally, has been just wonderful. I feel light and happy

and at one with all. I am grateful to have been introduced to this practice

because it has made my emotional life more centered.

 

 

 

Blessings to all!

 

 

 

Lynda

[Guest guest]

Dear Kartar,

It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to

offend anybody.

People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but

hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have

crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it

will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face

the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster.

KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be

willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own

stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of

course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact

and be prepared.

If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY

not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With

dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are

alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The

teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle

themselve is crucial.

Best Regards,

Jasmine

[Guest guest]

Dear Jasmine,

 

A student of KY always has the guidance of great masters, even if they are not

physically present. In KY practice we always tune in before doing anything else

(even the shortest meditation). We chant Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo - this mantra is

linking the student to the golden chain of KY teachers. Truth is we are never

alone when practicing KY with dedication and honesty, and anything that comes up

(joy, courage, fear, insecurity, anger, patience) is just so we learn,

understand and grow in ways we would have never seen possible before beginning

the journey

Many blessings,

Prem Siri Kaur

 

 P.S. Here is a little more info on Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo

This mantra is always the first that is chanted during a session of kundalini

yoga or meditation, and is therefore referred to as the Tuning In to your Higher

Self Mantra. The literal meaning is, " I bow before my highest consciousness. "

Chanting this mantra gets you in touch with your truest self, your highest self.

The mantra should be chanted loudly, from the back of the nasal cavity and from

the throat. As a rule, it is chanted in prayer pose, with the hands near the

heart, palms together, and the knuckles of the thumbs pressed against the

breastbone. Inhale deeply and focus your attention on your third-eye point. As

you exhale, chant the mantra in one breath. If you can't do it in one breath,

take a short breath after Ong Namo. The sound Dev is chanted at a slightly

higher tone than the other sounds. As you chant, vibrate your cranium enough to

create mild pressure at the chird eye point. Chant this mantra at least three

times.

 

--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Jasmine <raintree wrote:

 

Jasmine <raintree

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

Kundaliniyoga

Friday, November 28, 2008, 1:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kartar,

It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to

offend anybody.

People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but

hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have

crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it

will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face

the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster.

KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be

willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own

stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of

course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact

and be prepared.

If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY

not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With

dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are

alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The

teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle

themselve is crucial.

Best Regards,

Jasmine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

I came across this in the Onine Lessons by GuruRattan, seems very

appropriate to this conversation:

 

" In the yogic scriptures it is said that Kundalini yoga is 16 times

more powerful than Hatha yoga. On the one hand, that seems to be good

news. The Catch 22 is-- How do we make such quick progress? We are

confronted with our issues 16 times faster! Kundalini yoga is " In your

face yoga. " Spirituality can be a rough ride. A lot of things get

better and some things certainly seem to get worse! No spiritual

journey is a free lunch. We are obliged to deal with our issues in

order to set ourselves free.

 

I remember how some of us naively thought that everything would be

blissful on a spiritual path. Many of us used to think that

enlightenment was just a few meditations away. At one Ladies Camp many

years ago, Yogi Bhajan responded to this fanciful interpretation of

spirituality. He said, " I never told you that you would not have

problems. I told you that you would be able to get through them.! "

 

 

Kartar Kaur

[Guest guest]

Dear Prem,

Thanks for your reply. Noted mantra come into play with protection purpose and

to chant with feeling.

Many blessings,

Jasmine

 

 

-

Toni Tosa

Kundaliniyoga

Friday, November 28, 2008 9:32 PM

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

 

 

Dear Jasmine,

 

A student of KY always has the guidance of great masters, even if they are not

physically present. In KY practice we always tune in before doing anything else

(even the shortest meditation). We chant Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo - this mantra is

linking the student to the golden chain of KY teachers. Truth is we are never

alone when practicing KY with dedication and honesty, and anything that comes up

(joy, courage, fear, insecurity, anger, patience) is just so we learn,

understand and grow in ways we would have never seen possible before beginning

the journey

Many blessings,

Prem Siri Kaur

 

P.S. Here is a little more info on Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo

This mantra is always the first that is chanted during a session of kundalini

yoga or meditation, and is therefore referred to as the Tuning In to your Higher

Self Mantra. The literal meaning is, " I bow before my highest consciousness. "

Chanting this mantra gets you in touch with your truest self, your highest self.

The mantra should be chanted loudly, from the back of the nasal cavity and from

the throat. As a rule, it is chanted in prayer pose, with the hands near the

heart, palms together, and the knuckles of the thumbs pressed against the

breastbone. Inhale deeply and focus your attention on your third-eye point. As

you exhale, chant the mantra in one breath. If you can't do it in one breath,

take a short breath after Ong Namo. The sound Dev is chanted at a slightly

higher tone than the other sounds. As you chant, vibrate your cranium enough to

create mild pressure at the chird eye point. Chant this mantra at least three

times.

 

--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Jasmine <raintree wrote:

 

Jasmine <raintree

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga

Kundaliniyoga

Friday, November 28, 2008, 1:54 AM

 

Dear Kartar,

It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to

offend anybody.

People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but

hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have

crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it

will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face

the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster.

KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be

willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own

stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of

course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact

and be prepared.

If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY

not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With

dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are

alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The

teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle

themselve is crucial.

Best Regards,

Jasmine

 

[Guest guest]

Kundaliniyoga , " BiftonB " <biftonb wrote:

>

> Hi Fre,

> These feelings can be strong after very intense yoga - like the

White

> Tantric. Yogi Bhajan said eat a pizza! I think this means you can

> reward yourself with a treat (maybe even a bottle of Kwak?)

because it

> really is something special to go through this.

> There are many 'somatic' systems and such emotional reactions can

> happen in them all - people do cry in other types of yoga. The

> difference is in most other systems the reactions are less common

and

> less powerful and are sort of ignored or played down. In kundalini

> yoga most of us seek out these reactions and celebrate them

because we

> know they are a sign of fast beneficial change.

> We may be a little crazy to do this or we may be brave and able to

> face ourselves and accept what must happen because we know that joy

> lies beyond it.

> There are many yogic techniques. Yogi Bhajan gave us some of the

more

> obscure ones that give us the tools to change as fast as we want or

> can handle. So you have a choice - it is wonderful that we have

this

> choice.

>

> You will find a wonderful loving bond with other yogins that have

> shared this experience.

> Happiness and Loving Blessings,

> Keith.

>

> PS > bad, angry, useless

> Thats it indeed! They are our just emotions and thoughts and

feelings.

> They come and go - they are not our everything.

>

 

 

 

i think it has to do with your internal organs, getting cleaned out

and stirred up. especially the liver which has alot to do with

emotions, hence the urge to drink comes in when the liver is being

effected. also the adrenals it sounds like. just observe the energy

goes through different areas of the body, the effects, things

becoming clearer, calmer, whatsoever is there keep observing. the

mind always wants to label a sensation with words, but first it is a

sensation, just energy.

Good luck friend

Peace be with You