[Vaideekam] Reminder - Rig & Yajur UPAKARMA

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Respected Moderator,

 

I would like to send in a small donation as suggested in the site. Can you

please let me

know how to do it.

 

Dasan

K.Vasudevan

 

 

adiyen,

It is very pleasure to know about your interest to pay some donation.

I hope the payment system is not working now, I had not tried it, if I try to

activate it, I guesss I may have to put some investment?!

So, you just give that donation to a nearest very poor brahmin family who will

be very happy to receive the amount, and the money will be used for food

clothing purpose, by which they will praise the god and keep faith on him.

My heartiest blessings to all your family.

Thank you very much again,

Vasu vadhyar

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Respected Moderator,

 

Namaskarams,

 

Thank you very much for your reply and suggestion. I am staying abroad and do

like to help some poor brahmin family. May be there may others in the group who

may be interested in

doing the same.

 

I know I may be asking too much of you but if you can identify and take up the

task of distributing this money we can create a corpus or some sort of fund.

 

I am still interested in sending a donation directly by cheque or bank draft.

Please let me know.

 

Dasan

K. Vasudevan

 

 

Dear Mr.Vasudevan,

Thanks for your interest again.

After the situation I wish to inform onething, just for an information.

Already we (I) are having a registered trust (society) in the name of " Sath

Samrakshana " I am the president of that society and Mr.Padmanabhan advocate is

the Vice president who is also a member of this group. He had contributed many

articles for this group. So, redirect your message to Mr.Padmanabhan to do

something on this regard.

The only matter which I am fearing in this world is money.

So, I mostly avoid to handle money as much as I can.

But to not to discurrage persons like you, I need the help of Mr.Padmanabhan in

this regard.

You can directly send message to his mail address regarding this.

His mail ID Is: tvp7 and tvp7

best regards,

Vasu vadhyar

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respected,

The Mahasankalpam before the Kandarshi tarpanam is not fully narrated.Only few

lines in brief are seen in the sight,I believe,

BR,Raman.

 

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Namaskarams,

 

Thank you very much sir. I will send a mail to the e-mail ID of Advocate Shri. Padmanabhan you have provided.

 

Dasan

K.VAsudevan

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dasan!

 

somebody told me that, since i am performing the maasyams to my father,

i should not do the tharpanam on Friday ( Aavani Avittam). . Instead I

should do the yagnopaveedha dhaaranam on Saturday ( Gayathri Japam) and

proceed to do Gayathri japam.

 

I request your clarification.

 

Dasan

 

Ilayavilli S Boovarahan

***Adiyen,

Who is that somebody?

Being a client of 'Sri Vaishnava Kendram' why you are behaving like poor in

sastram and sampradayam? So, that somebody trying to advice you. If you feel

that somebody is really knowledgeble, then you ask him to show the text from

which book he had been taken it, if possible you make a xerox and send it to me,

or scan and send through email, I am very eager to see that.

 

With my little knowledge, I had not heared as said.

Also, your message is not clear. What is the instruction?

Do only Gayathri Japam and leave Kadarushi Tharpanam

or

Do Kandarushi Tharpanam on Saturday before Gayathri Japam?

 

I have heared, if it is necessary to do Kshavaram on friday, kshavaram will be

done on the previous day avoiding Kshavaram on Friday which also not in sastram

but in routine in very few family (Thinking it as a centiment; 'wiping on

Friday').

 

Vasu Vadhyar

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Boovarahan S wrote:

 

>

> Who is that somebody?

 

he is a bruhaspathi from thiruvaheendrapuram and i don't want to divulge

his name.

 

> Being a client of 'Sri Vaishnava Kendram' why you are behaving like

> poor in sastram and sampradayam?

 

really i am lacking in knowledge esp. in sastrams

 

> So, that somebody trying to advice you. If you feel that somebody is

> really knowledgeble, then you ask him to show the text from which book

> he had been taken it, if possible you make a xerox and send it to me,

> or scan and send through email, I am very eager to see that.

 

he was in a hurry, and i wud get the copy if possible.

 

>

> With my little knowledge, I had not heared as said.

> Also, your message is not clear. What is the instruction?

> Do only Gayathri Japam and leave Kadarushi Tharpanam

 

yes. On Friday nothing.

 

> or

> Do Kandarushi Tharpanam on Saturday before Gayathri Japam?

 

only yagnopaveedha dhaaranam and Gayathri Japam on Saturday

 

I seek your advice as Aathu Vaadhyaar.

 

Dasan,

 

Ilayavilli S Boovarahan

 

***Adiyen,

This is not only for Ilayavilli Swamy but for all members:

*****Remember

Any regular anushtanam, it means periodicals like, $sandhya vandhanam, samidha

dhanam, amavasai tharpanam, $$grahana tharpanam, Mahalaya tharpanam, Chradham

etc. should not be left without performing at any circumstance except theetu by

'Vrudhy'(birth) or by 'Kshayam'(death).

$ Sandhya vandhanam should be performed even in theetu with not exceeding 28

gayathri s per period.

$$Grahana Tharpanam should be done even if you are in the death theetu ( I read

some where, while you are bearing the dead body, the grahanam happens, do one

snanam and do grahana tharpanam, then continue bearing the body).

We can apply centiments only on things we do ourselves for our satisfaction.

There is no right to apply any centiment on kainkaryams instructed in the

sastram.

So, must do Kandarishi tharpanam, also it is not at all a pithru tharpanam, (and

it is not new (beginning) to you).

Avoid celebrating this day as a 'pandigai' by doing special menu for avani

avittam.

What will happen telling the name of that bruhaspathy?

I/We do not go to quarral with him? We will ask the reference thats all.

Whenever we get doubt or controvercy we should try to clarify it. In that case,

it is necessary to produce all controvercial statements and evidences together

and finalize?!

Vasu Vadhyar

[Guest guest]

Adiyen,,

 

I have also underwent the period of doing masyam but to my knowledge this does

not prevent you in doing any other anushtanams and we did all the upakarma in

full without celebrating it as pandigai as mentioned by Vasu vadhyar.

 

Upakarma, Kandarishi tharpanam etc.. are kind of anushtanams and not pooja or

festival type.

 

From the note of Vasu vadhyar, where he mentioned what should be done when

bearing the dead body, stresses the point of doing some of the anushtanams..

Even I understand that when bearing the body, we must do sandhyavandhanam

without doing gayathri japam [Vasu mama.. correct me if I am wrong].

 

[***(28 counts of Gayathri japam is must, because it is one of the steps in the

anushtanam of sandhya vandhanam to get it completed. Exceeding 28 Gayathri will

go vain (vyartham)) Vasu Vadhyar]

 

Hence we must do all the items that we are supposed to do on that day.

 

Regards,

Muralidharan

 

Boovarahan S <boova_rahan wrote:dasan!

 

somebody told me that, since i am performing the maasyams to my father,

i should not do the tharpanam on Friday ( Aavani Avittam). . Instead I

should do the yagnopaveedha dhaaranam on Saturday ( Gayathri Japam) and

proceed to do Gayathri japam.

 

I request your clarification.

 

Dasan

 

Ilayavilli S Boovarahan

***Adiyen,

Who is that somebody?

Being a client of 'Sri Vaishnava Kendram' why you are behaving like poor in

sastram and sampradayam? So, that somebody trying to advice you. If you feel

that somebody is really knowledgeble, then you ask him to show the text from

which book he had been taken it, if possible you make a xerox and send it to me,

or scan and send through email, I am very eager to see that.

 

With my little knowledge, I had not heared as said.

Also, your message is not clear. What is the instruction?

Do only Gayathri Japam and leave Kadarushi Tharpanam

or

Do Kandarushi Tharpanam on Saturday before Gayathri Japam?

 

I have heared, if it is necessary to do Kshavaram on friday, kshavaram will be

done on the previous day avoiding Kshavaram on Friday which also not in sastram

but in routine in very few family (Thinking it as a centiment; 'wiping on

Friday').

 

Vasu Vadhyar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Adiyen ,

 

I feel that we can do the gayathri japam also while the dead body is there . May

i know the correct wording of Dharma sasthram regarding this ?

 

" Muralidharan.K.S. " <ksmurali wrote:

Adiyen,,

 

***Adiyen,

I feel it is better to post 'Dharma Sastram' a page per day in this group, lot

of the members are having a great thirsty to know " Dharma Sastram " .

 

Why I am hesitating is : " The Pabham will be more after knowing sastram than

doing anything not knowing it " .

 

So, I wish to create a pole on this, lot of new members also have come to our

group, so, it is better to know their willingness also.

 

Vasu Vadhyar

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Quoting boova_rahan:

Dasan!

 

I thank you mama for your wonderful guidance.

 

In the meanwhile I wud like to bring to your kind notice the following.

 

Since I had to attend duty at 9-15 AM in T Nagar which I could not do, i appled

for leave, and my manager who is a smartha , told me that since my father had

expired and I am doing the pithru kainkaryam, I am not to do Kaandarishi

Tharpanam and asked me to resume duty. But I refused and on leave now for Avani

Avittam.

 

It follows that, this practice of not doing the tharpanam , is widely prevalent.

 

Anyhow, I am not taking chances and definitely I am going to abide by your

instructions only.

 

Ilayavilli S Boovarahan

 

 

***Adiyen,

Mr.Ilayavilli Swami,

This is my kind advice,

do not waste one day leave for Avani avittam,

You can do it by 8.30 am and you can attend office

also you have no pandigai, why you have to wait for

special thaligai. Everyday normal thaligai is enough for you

so, you do it quickly and go to office.

MOst of us EVeryday we are doing Madhyahniham arround 8.30 so, you can treat it

as a part of madhyahnigam.

Vasu Vadhyar

 

 

 

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Boovarahan S wrote:<BR>

<BR>

><BR>

><br>Who is that somebody?<BR>

<BR>

he is a bruhaspathi from<br>thiruvaheendrapuram and i don't want to divulge <BR>

his<br>name.<BR>

<BR>

> Being a client of 'Sri Vaishnava Kendram' why you<br>are behaving like <BR>

> poor in sastram and sampradayam?<br><BR>

<BR>

really i am lacking in knowledge esp. in<br>sastrams<BR>

<BR>

> So, that somebody trying to advice you. If you<br>feel that somebody is <BR>

> really knowledgeble, then you ask him<br>to show the text from which book <BR>

> he had been taken it, if<br>possible you make a xerox and send it to me, <BR>

> or scan and send<br>through email, I am very eager to see that.<BR>

<BR>

he was in a<br>hurry, and i wud get the copy if possible.<BR>

<BR>

><BR>

><br>With my little knowledge, I had not heared as said.<BR>

> Also, your<br>message is not clear. What is the instruction?<BR>

> Do only<br>Gayathri Japam and leave Kadarushi Tharpanam<BR>

<BR>

yes. On Friday<br>nothing.<BR>

<BR>

> or<BR>

> Do Kandarushi Tharpanam on<br>Saturday before Gayathri Japam?<BR>

<BR>

only yagnopaveedha dhaaranam<br>and Gayathri Japam on Saturday<BR>

<BR>

I seek your advice as Aathu<br>Vaadhyaar.<BR>

<BR>

Dasan,<BR>

<BR>

Ilayavilli S<br>Boovarahan<BR>

<BR>

***Adiyen,<BR>

This is not only for Ilayavilli<br>Swamy but for all members:<BR>

*****Remember<BR>

Any regular<br>anushtanam, it means periodicals like, $sandhya vandhanam,

samidha<br>dhanam, amavasai tharpanam, $$grahana tharpanam, Mahalaya

tharpanam,<br>Chradham etc. should not be left without performing at any

circumstance<br>except theetu by 'Vrudhy'(birth) or by 'Kshayam'(death).<BR>

$ Sandhya<br>vandhanam should be performed even in theetu with not exceeding

28<br>gayathri s per period.<BR>

$$Grahana Tharpanam should be done even if<br>you are in the death theetu ( I

read some where, while you are bearing<br>the dead body, the grahanam happens,

do one snanam and do grahana<br>tharpanam, then continue bearing the body).<BR>

We can apply centiments<br>only on things we do ourselves for our satisfaction.

There is no right<br>to apply any centiment on kainkaryams instructed in

the<br>sastram.<BR>

So, must do Kandarishi tharpanam, also it is not at all a<br>pithru tharpanam,

(and it is not new (beginning) to you).<BR>

Avoid<br>celebrating this day as a 'pandigai' by doing special menu for

avani<br>avittam.<BR>

What will happen telling the name of that<br>bruhaspathy?<BR>

I/We do not go to quarral with him? We will ask the<br>reference thats all.

Whenever we get doubt or controvercy we should try<br>to clarify it. In that

case, it is necessary to produce all<br>controvercial statements and evidences

together and finalize?!<BR>

Vasu<br>Vadhyar<BR>

<BR>

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