Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Hare Rama KRishna Dear Yousuf, Im not furious , just disagreeing and pointing out that it is not good to kick or critisize people who are trying to follow religious principles. A persons spiritual life is an intimate relationship with his Lord and can not be known or understood by others. Best to understand your own faults and try and purify ourselves and let the Supreme deal with everyone else. If you want to object to Narasimhas comments about Sanjay that is one thing, but do not insult peoples spiritual attempts. best wishes Lakshmi Now getting back to astrology what astrological combinations makes a person hinder and attack other peoples temples, devotional service etc.? Let us stick to astro on this list. In the name of God so many atrocities have occured.It is a sad thing. sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i wrote: > > Dear Lakshmiji > Good morning from India.Pranams. > eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) > > Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus > So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems > > I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands > I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. > Thanks > Yousuf > > > Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you > > Talk 101. > > A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi’s sari becoming endless? > > M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. > > More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, > > In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. > > Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, > her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. > > This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. > > Sources: > > 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURU’S SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman > > 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book > > rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Yousuf, > > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > > Give credit where credit is due. > > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > > best wishes > > LAkshmi > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > > > Thanks > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > > sohamsa > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Goelji > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > > yousuf > > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > > > bring both of them together. > > > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dear Lakshmiji Pranams.You are mistaken.I am a Hindu . You may write to Sri.Sanjay prabhakaran and ask him.I have mentioned it to him during the time he gave remedies for my sisters marriage. I did Hindu remedies .There is a link in Sohamsa and I shall send you or post it here. My mother was suffering from lung disease and you can ask Sunil Johnji gave remedy.Only people who go through breathing difficulties understand this disease. I swear I am a Hindu and a devotee of Lord Krishna.Period. As for my name " yousuf_i, " some people have prarabhda karma and one such karma is following me.Sadly I have a mixed parentage. Thanks Yousuf sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote: > > > Hare Rama KRishna > Dear Yousuf, > Im not furious , just disagreeing and pointing out that it is not good to kick or critisize people who are trying to follow religious principles. > A persons spiritual life is an intimate relationship with his Lord and can not be known or understood by others. > Best to understand your own faults and try and purify ourselves and let the Supreme deal with everyone else. > If you want to object to Narasimhas comments about Sanjay that is one thing, but do not insult peoples spiritual attempts. > best wishes > Lakshmi > Now getting back to astrology what astrological combinations makes a person hinder and attack other peoples temples, devotional service etc.? Let us stick to astro on this list. > In the name of God so many atrocities have occured.It is a sad thing. > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > Good morning from India.Pranams. > > eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) > > > > Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus > > So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems > > > > I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands > > I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. > > Thanks > > Yousuf > > > > > > Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you > > > > Talk 101. > > > > A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi’s sari becoming endless? > > > > M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. > > > > More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, > > > > In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. > > > > Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, > > her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. > > > > This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. > > > > Sources: > > > > 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURU’S SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman > > > > 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book > > > > rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience > > > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > > > > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > > > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > > > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > > > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > > > Give credit where credit is due. > > > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > > > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > > > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > > > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > > > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > > > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > > > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > > > best wishes > > > LAkshmi > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Dear Goelji > > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > > > yousuf > > > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > > > > bring both of them together. > > > > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dear yousuf, I am from bangalore.Which krishna temple are you talking about. Regards Modhini sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i wrote: > > Dear Lakshmiji > Pranams.You are mistaken.I am a Hindu . You may write to Sri.Sanjay prabhakaran and ask him.I have mentioned it to him during the time he gave remedies for my sisters marriage. I did Hindu remedies .There is a link in Sohamsa and I shall send you or post it here. > > My mother was suffering from lung disease and you can ask Sunil Johnji gave remedy.Only people who go through breathing difficulties understand this disease. > > I swear I am a Hindu and a devotee of Lord Krishna.Period. > > As for my name " yousuf_i, " some people have prarabhda karma and one such karma is following me.Sadly I have a mixed parentage. > Thanks > Yousuf > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama KRishna > > Dear Yousuf, > > Im not furious , just disagreeing and pointing out that it is not good to kick or critisize people who are trying to follow religious principles. > > A persons spiritual life is an intimate relationship with his Lord and can not be known or understood by others. > > Best to understand your own faults and try and purify ourselves and let the Supreme deal with everyone else. > > If you want to object to Narasimhas comments about Sanjay that is one thing, but do not insult peoples spiritual attempts. > > best wishes > > Lakshmi > > Now getting back to astrology what astrological combinations makes a person hinder and attack other peoples temples, devotional service etc.? Let us stick to astro on this list. > > In the name of God so many atrocities have occured.It is a sad thing. > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > > Good morning from India.Pranams. > > > eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) > > > > > > Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus > > > So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems > > > > > > I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands > > > I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. > > > Thanks > > > Yousuf > > > > > > > > > Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you > > > > > > Talk 101. > > > > > > A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi’s sari becoming endless? > > > > > > M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. > > > > > > More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, > > > > > > In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. > > > > > > Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, > > > her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. > > > > > > This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. > > > > > > Sources: > > > > > > 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURU’S SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman > > > > > > 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book > > > > > > rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > > > > > > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > > > > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > > > > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > > > > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > > > > Give credit where credit is due. > > > > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > > > > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > > > > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > > > > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > > > > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > > > > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > > > > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > > > > best wishes > > > > LAkshmi > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > > > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > > > > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > > > > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > > > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Goelji > > > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > > > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > > > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > > > > > bring both of them together. > > > > > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dear Modhiniji Pranams 11th cross, Malleshwaram that is the location of the famous Krishna Temple in bangalore Before somebody asks me i decided to post this much information as to why I am here. if marriage settles for my sisters I want to perform Tulabhara ( I am not joking) I am serious and I want to ask Sri Ramanaryanji because he responded to Sri Ramdasji's question on Tulabhara but he seems to be not present here nor does he address my question privately and his shisya (whew) he says mean things on me.Even now if Ramanaranji can discuss on my sisters chart it will be great.I am not wishing for Raj bhavan Status,only finale to my family project. I read somewhere a suggestion given to Ramadasji by Sri.Goelji on mrriage and that is to perform the girl's marriage first to Arka tree. Now I am thinking of the same for my sisters marriage If people had 'my type problems' and were asked to meditate and do Homa, can they do? If I go home these 2 ladies (I mean my sisters no offence to any woman, all are my mothers except one whom I am yet to find) fight all the time on marriage and if I find a muslim, the boy runs away after hearing my family history.If I catch a hindu boy my sisters get a 10 feet rope to hang me That is why I am thinking of Gita and praying to Krishna all the time.and spending time here on Sohamsa reading others remedies on marriages and atleast some day My family project gets over and GIta is fully realized unnecessarily Sanjayji is being maligned, I am sorry for him.Atleast he helped me in the past Ultimately life is all about Krishna and Gita. It is all about translating Gita into action!! Gita Gita Gita Thanks yousuf sohamsa , " hosabettu_srilnr " <hosabettu_srilnr wrote: > > Dear yousuf, > I am from bangalore.Which krishna temple are you talking about. > Regards > Modhini > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > Pranams.You are mistaken.I am a Hindu . You may write to Sri.Sanjay prabhakaran and ask him.I have mentioned it to him during the time he gave remedies for my sisters marriage. I did Hindu remedies .There is a link in Sohamsa and I shall send you or post it here. > > > > My mother was suffering from lung disease and you can ask Sunil Johnji gave remedy.Only people who go through breathing difficulties understand this disease. > > > > I swear I am a Hindu and a devotee of Lord Krishna.Period. > > > > As for my name " yousuf_i, " some people have prarabhda karma and one such karma is following me.Sadly I have a mixed parentage. > > Thanks > > Yousuf > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama KRishna > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > Im not furious , just disagreeing and pointing out that it is not good to kick or critisize people who are trying to follow religious principles. > > > A persons spiritual life is an intimate relationship with his Lord and can not be known or understood by others. > > > Best to understand your own faults and try and purify ourselves and let the Supreme deal with everyone else. > > > If you want to object to Narasimhas comments about Sanjay that is one thing, but do not insult peoples spiritual attempts. > > > best wishes > > > Lakshmi > > > Now getting back to astrology what astrological combinations makes a person hinder and attack other peoples temples, devotional service etc.? Let us stick to astro on this list. > > > In the name of God so many atrocities have occured.It is a sad thing. > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > > > Good morning from India.Pranams. > > > > eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) > > > > > > > > Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus > > > > So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems > > > > > > > > I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands > > > > I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. > > > > Thanks > > > > Yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you > > > > > > > > Talk 101. > > > > > > > > A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi’s sari becoming endless? > > > > > > > > M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. > > > > > > > > More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, > > > > > > > > In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. > > > > > > > > Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, > > > > her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. > > > > > > > > This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. > > > > > > > > Sources: > > > > > > > > 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURU’S SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman > > > > > > > > 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book > > > > > > > > rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > > > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > > > > > > > > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > > > > > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > > > > > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > > > > > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > > > > > Give credit where credit is due. > > > > > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > > > > > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > > > > > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > > > > > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > > > > > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > > > > > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > > > > > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > > > > > best wishes > > > > > LAkshmi > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > > > > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > > > > > > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > > > > > > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > > > > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > > > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > > > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Dear Goelji > > > > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > > > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > > > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > > > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > > > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > > > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > > > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > > > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > > > > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > > > > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > > > > > > bring both of them together. > > > > > > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dear Sanjayji Pranams Thank you so much for your timely advice on shantipath. I took it and started reciting immediately. Tonight I can sleep in peace because there are no angry/hate/contemptous private mails from anybody. So far 5 emailers acknowledged privately I have too many problems and I am not a crazy guy. ---------------------- Lakshmiji, Thanks for your kind words.I hope you recover soon. --------------------------- Gratefully I acknowledge your wisdom to start shantipath.let me try to write tomorrow morning if it worked. Sir, If I do not appear online to post in the morning you can safely presume I have been stoned overnight and my hands or legs or jaws have been broken (Please take this humour at my expense in times of " OUR Stress " laughter is the best medicine) The two articles given below should be read by all. All for the sake of Krishna and Gita Thanks Yousuf For Ahamkara http://www.darsana.org/gate.html?name=Journal & file=display & jid=20 http://www.hindujagruti.org/hinduism/knowledge/article/at-which-stage-does-the-c\ hanting-occur-automatically.html At which stage does the chanting occur automatically? sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > Dear Yousuf > I have read your peculiar problem listed below > Try this - read the shanti patha everyday at home. you can get it easily 'om purnamadah purnamidam...' > Ask your sisters to recite one of the 99 names of Allah. Look at their charts, find Venus position. Then determine its Rudramsa number like first Rudramsa of sign is 1 and 2nd is 2 and so on. Then choose the correct name of Allah from Nos.67 to 77. Ask them to repeat this name for 1 hour in the morning and evening. > " In whatever name or form a person calls Him, He will come " - Krishna in the Gita. > So. don't worry about this and do it. You should see some hope in 30-40 days. Peace should prevail in the house. Stop talking to them about marriage as it makes them tense. Let peace come to the house - prosperity will follow. > My best wishes > Sanjay Rath > > > yousuf_i > Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:21 PM > sohamsa > [soHamsa] Re: yousef reply > > > > Dear Modhiniji > Pranams > 11th cross, Malleshwaram that is the location of the famous Krishna Temple in bangalore > > Before somebody asks me i decided to post this much information as to why I am here. > if marriage settles for my sisters I want to perform Tulabhara ( I am not joking) I am serious and I want to ask Sri Ramanaryanji because he responded to Sri Ramdasji's question on Tulabhara but he seems to be not present here nor does he address my question privately and his shisya (whew) he says mean things on me.Even now if Ramanaranji can discuss on my sisters chart it will be great.I am not wishing for Raj bhavan Status,only finale to my family project. > > I read somewhere a suggestion given to Ramadasji by Sri.Goelji on mrriage and that is to perform the girl's marriage first to Arka tree. Now I am thinking of the same for my sisters marriage > > If people had 'my type problems' and were asked to meditate and do Homa, can they do? > > If I go home these 2 ladies (I mean my sisters no offence to any woman, all are my mothers except one whom I am yet to find) fight all the time on marriage and if I find a muslim, the boy runs away after hearing my family history.If I catch a hindu boy my sisters get a 10 feet rope to hang me > > That is why I am thinking of Gita and praying to Krishna all the time.and spending time here on Sohamsa reading others remedies on marriages and atleast some day My family project gets over and GIta is fully realized > > unnecessarily Sanjayji is being maligned, I am sorry for him.Atleast he helped me in the past > > Ultimately life is all about Krishna and Gita. It is all about translating Gita into action!! > > Gita Gita Gita > > Thanks > yousuf > > sohamsa , " hosabettu_srilnr " <hosabettu_srilnr@> wrote: > > > > Dear yousuf, > > I am from bangalore.Which krishna temple are you talking about. > > Regards > > Modhini > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > > Pranams.You are mistaken.I am a Hindu . You may write to Sri.Sanjay prabhakaran and ask him.I have mentioned it to him during the time he gave remedies for my sisters marriage. I did Hindu remedies .There is a link in Sohamsa and I shall send you or post it here. > > > > > > My mother was suffering from lung disease and you can ask Sunil Johnji gave remedy.Only people who go through breathing difficulties understand this disease. > > > > > > I swear I am a Hindu and a devotee of Lord Krishna.Period. > > > > > > As for my name " yousuf_i, " some people have prarabhda karma and one such karma is following me.Sadly I have a mixed parentage. > > > Thanks > > > Yousuf > > > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama KRishna > > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > > Im not furious , just disagreeing and pointing out that it is not good to kick or critisize people who are trying to follow religious principles. > > > > A persons spiritual life is an intimate relationship with his Lord and can not be known or understood by others. > > > > Best to understand your own faults and try and purify ourselves and let the Supreme deal with everyone else. > > > > If you want to object to Narasimhas comments about Sanjay that is one thing, but do not insult peoples spiritual attempts. > > > > best wishes > > > > Lakshmi > > > > Now getting back to astrology what astrological combinations makes a person hinder and attack other peoples temples, devotional service etc.? Let us stick to astro on this list. > > > > In the name of God so many atrocities have occured.It is a sad thing. > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmiji > > > > > Good morning from India.Pranams. > > > > > eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) > > > > > > > > > > Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus > > > > > So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems > > > > > > > > > > I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands > > > > > I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you > > > > > > > > > > Talk 101. > > > > > > > > > > A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadiâ?Ts sari becoming endless? > > > > > > > > > > M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. > > > > > > > > > > More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, > > > > > > > > > > In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. > > > > > > > > > > Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, > > > > > her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. > > > > > > > > > > This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. > > > > > > > > > > Sources: > > > > > > > > > > 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURUâ?TS SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman > > > > > > > > > > 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book > > > > > > > > > > rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Yousuf, > > > > > > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > > > > > > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > > > > > > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > > > > > > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > > > > > > Give credit where credit is due. > > > > > > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > > > > > > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > > > > > > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > > > > > > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > > > > > > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > > > > > > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > > > > > > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > LAkshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > > > > > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > > > > > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > > > > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > > > > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Goelji > > > > > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > > > > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > > > > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > > > > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > > > > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > > > > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > > > > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > > > > > > yousuf > > > > > > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > > > > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > > > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > > > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > > > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > > > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > > > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > > > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > > > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > > > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > > > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > > > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > > > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > > > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > > > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . 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