Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentioned Vimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I was grappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? The seeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails by Narasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects was mentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna to match with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that the trivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used to interpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely different from what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding). Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfall following the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas so the mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi as well? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Something auspicious in the air. best regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari, > > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in the mountains and > after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute > there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it his home away > from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in the mountains - > total canopy. > > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few times when we > were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in that cold!...brrr). > > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or > emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (I just got > one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The > bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashiva is for > knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering and together > they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins that brings the > calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti > from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such > stone which I don't know. > > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the > planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun. Merc and > Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat is in 5 and > aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted > that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the > Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was over at the > temple. > > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - the priest > allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishek with him as > the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbance inside a > temple these days. > > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM > varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam done without any > problems > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > Pranaams. > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > things are of no consequence... > > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya > > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra or what is it > used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountains within > me. > > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful. > > regards > Hari > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Hari, You talked about a Barat which is a marriage -Venus.Venus is also Jala tattwa.I wonder if this further indicates about Sanjay's nimitta of the rainfall.Rain is also Jala. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com ||brihaspatimvarenyam||Dear Sanjay,Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentionedVimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I wasgrappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? Theseeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails byNarasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects wasmentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna tomatch with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that thetrivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used tointerpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely differentfrom what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding).Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfallfollowing the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas sothe mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi aswell? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Somethingauspicious in the air.best regardsHarivarahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> Dear Hari,> > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in themountains and> after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute> there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it hishome away> from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in themountains -> total canopy.> > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few timeswhen we> were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in thatcold!...brrr).> > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or> emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (Ijust got> one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The> bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashivais for> knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering andtogether> they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins thatbrings the> calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti> from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such> stone which I don't know.> > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the> planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun.Merc and> Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat isin 5 and> aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted> that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the> Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was overat the> temple.> > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - thepriest> allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishekwith him as> the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbanceinside a> temple these days.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath CenterR> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> * * *> > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam donewithout any> problems> > ||brihaspatimvarenyam||> > Dear Sanjay,> > Pranaams. > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > things are of no consequence...> > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya> > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra orwhat is it> used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountainswithin> me.> > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful.> > regards> Hari> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kanu and Hari Kanu you sent me another mail where the marriage procession ruled by Venus indicates Jala tatwa as does the rainfall also - jala tatwa. So what does this indicate? Did you know that unmarried people go to Mukteswara and then they get maried and childless couples get children after circumbulating the temple reciting the mantra. The ones seeking pure knowledge recite om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah at the temple for hours. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * kanu priya [kanupriya003] Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:27 PMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Mukteswara episode Om Gurave Namah Dear Hari, You talked about a Barat which is a marriage -Venus.Venus is also Jala tattwa.I wonder if this further indicates about Sanjay's nimitta of the rainfall.Rain is also Jala. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com ||brihaspatimvarenyam||Dear Sanjay,Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentionedVimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I wasgrappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? Theseeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails byNarasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects wasmentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna tomatch with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that thetrivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used tointerpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely differentfrom what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding).Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfallfollowing the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas sothe mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi aswell? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Somethingauspicious in the air.best regardsHarivarahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> Dear Hari,> > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in themountains and> after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute> there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it hishome away> from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in themountains -> total canopy.> > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few timeswhen we> were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in thatcold!...brrr).> > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or> emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (Ijust got> one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The> bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashivais for> knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering andtogether> they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins thatbrings the> calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti> from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such> stone which I don't know.> > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the> planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun.Merc and> Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat isin 5 and> aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted> that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the> Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was overat the> temple.> > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - thepriest> allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishekwith him as> the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbanceinside a> temple these days.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath CenterR> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> * * *> > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam donewithout any> problems> > ||brihaspatimvarenyam||> > Dear Sanjay,> > Pranaams. > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > things are of no consequence...> > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya> > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra orwhat is it> used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountainswithin> me.> > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful.> > regards> Hari> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay, So I suppose some Venus related blessings are bound to come your way.I am glad to know you were able to perform this puja and wish you the best for attaining the results.Can one chant the mantra- om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah, for knowledge? Best Regards, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kanu and Hari Kanu you sent me another mail where the marriage procession ruled by Venus indicates Jala tatwa as does the rainfall also - jala tatwa. So what does this indicate? Did you know that unmarried people go to Mukteswara and then they get maried and childless couples get children after circumbulating the temple reciting the mantra. The ones seeking pure knowledge recite om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah at the temple for hours. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * kanu priya [kanupriya003] Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:27 PMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Mukteswara episode Om Gurave Namah Dear Hari, You talked about a Barat which is a marriage -Venus.Venus is also Jala tattwa.I wonder if this further indicates about Sanjay's nimitta of the rainfall.Rain is also Jala. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com ||brihaspatimvarenyam||Dear Sanjay,Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentionedVimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I wasgrappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? Theseeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails byNarasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects wasmentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna tomatch with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that thetrivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used tointerpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely differentfrom what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding).Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfallfollowing the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas sothe mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi aswell? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Somethingauspicious in the air.best regardsHarivarahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> Dear Hari,> > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in themountains and> after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute> there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it hishome away> from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in themountains -> total canopy.> > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few timeswhen we> were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in thatcold!...brrr).> > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or> emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (Ijust got> one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The> bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashivais for> knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering andtogether> they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins thatbrings the> calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti> from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such> stone which I don't know.> > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the> planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun.Merc and> Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat isin 5 and> aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted> that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the> Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was overat the> temple.> > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - thepriest> allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishekwith him as> the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbanceinside a> temple these days.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath CenterR> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> * * *> > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam donewithout any> problems> > ||brihaspatimvarenyam||> > Dear Sanjay,> > Pranaams. > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > things are of no consequence...> > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya> > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra orwhat is it> used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountainswithin> me.> > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful.> > regards> Hari> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kanu Yes of course..thats what the priest a PhD in sanskrit ws chanting. You to can go ahead and chant this mantra and maybe God willing you will have a PhD in Jyotish one day. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * kanu priya [kanupriya003] Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:01 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Mukteswara episode Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay, So I suppose some Venus related blessings are bound to come your way.I am glad to know you were able to perform this puja and wish you the best for attaining the results.Can one chant the mantra- om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah, for knowledge? Best Regards, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kanu and Hari Kanu you sent me another mail where the marriage procession ruled by Venus indicates Jala tatwa as does the rainfall also - jala tatwa. So what does this indicate? Did you know that unmarried people go to Mukteswara and then they get maried and childless couples get children after circumbulating the temple reciting the mantra. The ones seeking pure knowledge recite om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah at the temple for hours. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center. 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * kanu priya [kanupriya003] Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:27 PMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Mukteswara episode Om Gurave Namah Dear Hari, You talked about a Barat which is a marriage -Venus.Venus is also Jala tattwa.I wonder if this further indicates about Sanjay's nimitta of the rainfall.Rain is also Jala. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. www.jyotirmayi.com ||brihaspatimvarenyam||Dear Sanjay,Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentionedVimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I wasgrappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? Theseeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails byNarasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects wasmentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna tomatch with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that thetrivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used tointerpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely differentfrom what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding).Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfallfollowing the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas sothe mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi aswell? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Somethingauspicious in the air.best regardsHarivarahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> Dear Hari,> > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in themountains and> after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute> there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it hishome away> from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in themountains -> total canopy.> > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few timeswhen we> were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in thatcold!...brrr).> > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or> emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (Ijust got> one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The> bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashivais for> knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering andtogether> they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins thatbrings the> calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti> from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such> stone which I don't know.> > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the> planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun.Merc and> Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat isin 5 and> aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted> that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the> Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was overat the> temple.> > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - thepriest> allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishekwith him as> the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbanceinside a> temple these days.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath CenterR> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> * * *> > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam donewithout any> problems> > ||brihaspatimvarenyam||> > Dear Sanjay,> > Pranaams. > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > things are of no consequence...> > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya> > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra orwhat is it> used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountainswithin> me.> > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful.> > regards> Hari> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 ||Brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. You guessed correctly once again that I have been medidating on the names given to the finer 3 levels. Thanks for confirming the line of my thinking; I will try to plough the (lonely) furrow along these lines. It looks like nowadays you have some new insights into how this complex dasa operates, maybe some recent burrowing through your grandfathers notes?...why is BPHS intentionally vague on the connection between the different levels? At least, this is how it looks to me. best regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > The first three levels you all know from my books. Please try to meditate on > the names given to the other three levels > Sookshma has to do with the sookshma sareera > Prana is the vital air and is vayu tatva...pranapada is one point and there > can be others > Deha is the physical body that is constantly undergoing transformation and > changes..in fact this is the most changable part of us although we dont > realise it. It changes position very very soon and even in our sleep we are > changing and transforming as old cells die and are removed and new cells are > formed...this is where the deha decides what it can do best at a given time > period. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay/Kanu, 2nd house can be seen for marriage too and there is an amsa parivartana between Mars (rasi 2nd lord) and Venus in Sanjays chart. 2nd house is also Kutumba Shiva and probably some spiritual transformation related to Sadashiva (may be Dattatreya) is indicated. In case, I am off-track, please excuse me. best regards Hari varahamihira , kanu priya <kanupriya003> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Sanjay, > So I suppose some Venus related blessings are bound to come your way.I am glad to know you were able to perform this puja and wish you the best for attaining the results.Can one chant the mantra- om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya > mukteswaraaya namah, for knowledge? > > Best Regards, > Kanupriya. > www.jyotirmayi.com > > > Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Kanu and Hari > Kanu you sent me another mail where the marriage procession ruled by Venus indicates Jala tatwa as does the rainfall also - jala tatwa. So what does this indicate? > > Did you know that unmarried people go to Mukteswara and then they get maried and childless couples get children after circumbulating the temple reciting the mantra. The ones seeking pure knowledge recite > om hraum om bhur-bhuva-svah sadaashivaaya mukteswaraaya namah at the temple for hours. > > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath Center® > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > > > kanu priya [kanupriya003] > Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:27 PM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Mukteswara episode > > > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Hari, > You talked about a Barat which is a marriage -Venus.Venus is also Jala tattwa.I wonder if this further indicates about Sanjay's nimitta of the rainfall.Rain is also Jala. > > Best Wishes, > Kanupriya. > www.jyotirmayi.com > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > Pranaams. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. You mentioned > Vimsottari dasa upto 6 levels!!! How the deuce did you know that I was > grappling with 6 level Vimsottari dasa all throughout the night? The > seeds for grappling with this complex dasa was sown in mails by > Narasimha and Ramanarayan (on other forums) where sookshma aspects was > mentioned as aspects in navamsa and kunda rectification in prasna to > match with 6 level lagna Vimsottari dasa. Is it possible that the > trivarga corresponding to the three types of sariras can be used to > interpret the 6 level Vimsottari dasa here? This is entirely different > from what you have taught Narasimha (to the best of my understanding). > > Could you please share how you arrived at the prediction of rainfall > following the puja? The mantra seems to be 4 words and 9 aksharas so > the mantradevata sits in the 2nd house. probably some vak siddhi as > well? As I type this, I hear the music of a baraat party. Something > auspicious in the air. > > best regards > Hari > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Hari, > > > > Mukeswara is one of the oldest temples of Lord Shiva in the > mountains and > > after the British *discovered* the temple they built the IRVI institute > > there. Later a Govt bunglow was added and Jim Corbett made it his > home away > > from England. It has the most incredible natural jungle in the > mountains - > > total canopy. > > > > The priest was kind enough to recite the mantra loudly a few times > when we > > were doing the abhishek together (have to wear dhoti in that > cold!...brrr). > > > > Very very calming mantra. It brings the stillness of Pisces - mukti or > > emancipation. Freedom from sins, debts, troubles and litigation (I > just got > > one court order for the old case. So one step towards the calmness). The > > bija used is the sadashiva+vahni bija haum+ ra = hraum. sadaashiva > is for > > knowledge and vahni (agni) burns the sins that cause suffering and > together > > they give the knowledge along will the overcoming of sins that > brings the > > calmness and cools the mind. The purpose is in the name of Shiva - Mukti > > from Mukteswaraaya. The Shiva Linga is of pure white marble or some such > > stone which I don't know. > > > > I was under Vimsottari (Moon based) Merc-Sun-Sat-Ven-Ket-Ven. See the > > planets involved are the tapasvi yoga planets along with BK Sun. > Merc and > > Sun have parivartana in D20 chart involving 2 & 5 houses and Sat is > in 5 and > > aspects the 2nd house in D20. It was a great experience. I had predicted > > that if the Puja was accepted by Lord Shiva it would rain as soon as the > > Puja was over. It did rain very heavily as soon as the Puja was over > at the > > temple. > > > > I am grateful to the good wishes of all of you for this event - the > priest > > allowed me to sit inside the temple and do the complete abhishek > with him as > > the acharya. It is so difficult to pray quietly without disturbance > inside a > > temple these days. > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > > Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM > > varahamihira > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Thanks for the help--- Upanayanam done > without any > > problems > > > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Pranaams. > > > > > Just came down from the high mountains where mobiles and other > > > things are of no consequence... > > > Om hraum namah mukteshwaraaya > > > > Can you please tell me what is the significance of this mantra or > what is it > > used for? As soon as I read it, I felt the silence of the mountains > within > > me. > > > > Hope ur trip to the mountains was successful. > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Hari BPHS assumes that you are reading it after learning that there are seven lokas and that these seven lokas are connected by SIX chakras or time scales and that these six time scales are the basis of all dasa systems. For example the Kalachakra (if you have really studies it then you will know) has SIX levels or inner mandalas. So every dasa system must incorporate the connection between the seven lokas which is done by the six time scales or dasa, antara, pratyantara, sookshamtara, prana antara and deha antara... ....more food for thought With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath CenterR 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * onlyhari [onlyhari] Friday, May 13, 2005 4:58 PM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Mukteswara episode ||Brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. You guessed correctly once again that I have been medidating on the names given to the finer 3 levels. Thanks for confirming the line of my thinking; I will try to plough the (lonely) furrow along these lines. It looks like nowadays you have some new insights into how this complex dasa operates, maybe some recent burrowing through your grandfathers notes?...why is BPHS intentionally vague on the connection between the different levels? At least, this is how it looks to me. best regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > The first three levels you all know from my books. Please try to meditate on > the names given to the other three levels Sookshma has to do with the > sookshma sareera Prana is the vital air and is vayu tatva...pranapada > is one point and there > can be others > Deha is the physical body that is constantly undergoing transformation and > changes..in fact this is the most changable part of us although we > dont realise it. It changes position very very soon and even in our > sleep we are > changing and transforming as old cells die and are removed and new cells are > formed...this is where the deha decides what it can do best at a given time > period. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Hari All of you seem to have become over sensitive...I think its the sunlight of May/June. I am not offended not have I become sensitive. In fact I gave you more clues to keep ploughing. Thats my way and it always has been.After all brilliant young researchers like you need for for thought. I presume you hae asked the six questions to yourself and list members. so I am forwarding this to Varahamihira where the brilliant discussion continues. Take up a case study and then things will fall in place. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath CenterR 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Hari M [onlyhari] Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:12 PM Sanjay Rath |Sri Varaha| Mukteswara episode ||Om Namo Narayanaaya|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. OK, I am taking this off-list as I understand that you are reluctant to share parampara insights on the Varahamihira forum. Also I see that you probably got offended at a perceived slight to Good Ol' Maharishi Parasara's book...smile. Just want to clarify that I meant no slight or otherwise. Just an observation from me, thats all. Thanks for the further insights; you are right in that they are much food for thought. Do you mean that the lokas are representative both of the micro as well as macro-cosmos? Quite uncanny, that advice to study the kalachakra...I really must pick up Ramanarayans notes on that and read it. Now let me share my line of thinking with you: (1) There is a connection between the hora and the deha-antara...where is this connection seen? (question to myself) (2) The three sariras are sthula, sookshma and karana. According to the karmashayas, the seed of any event first germinates in the karana, then on to the sookshma before manifesting in the sthula. (3) Since that great blessed soul Maharishi Parasara said 'shastyamsa to be seen *for all matters*', I thought that karana sarira should correspond to the shastyamsa for seeing these effects. So the deha-antara is to be seen in shastyamsa. (4) The next level prana antara also to be seen in shastyamsa wrt pranapada lagna as it shows the 'breathing of life' into the dormant seed. (5) Sookshma antara to be seen in navamsa as it directly connects us to our bhagya...whether the seed flourishes or not. (6) Rest as you have already enunciated; can be seen with reference to rasi. After seeing deha & sookshma, we can decide upon appropriate divisionals to be seen before arriving at a decision. So my thinking is to use a trivarga at the minimum if we are to analyse 6 level dasa. What do you think? When I read BPHS to confirm this logic, I couldnt see any such pattern...not that Parasara is imperfect, we are. best regards Hari > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > BPHS assumes that you are reading it after learning that there are > seven lokas and that these seven lokas are connected by SIX chakras or time scales and that these six time scales are the basis of all dasa systems. For example the Kalachakra (if you have really studied it then you will know)has SIX levels or inner mandalas. So every dasa system must incorporate the connection between the seven lokas which is done by the six time scales or dasa, antara, pratyantara, sookshamtara, prana antara and deha antara... > > ...more food for thought > > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. No, I have not become oversensitive...you know me quite well. I asked only the first question for myself and the rest of the six points are for comment by you/learned persons on varahamihira. No doubt, because of the clues you have given, I will keep ploughing. Regarding case study, I was thinking of doing that; thanks for the encouragement. regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > All of you seem to have become over sensitive...I think its the sunlight of > May/June. I am not offended not have I become sensitive. In fact I gave you > more clues to keep ploughing. Thats my way and it always has been.After all > brilliant young researchers like you need for for thought. > I presume you hae asked the six questions to yourself and list members. so I > am forwarding this to Varahamihira where the brilliant discussion continues. > Take up a case study and then things will fall in place. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > Hari M [onlyhari] > Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:12 PM > Sanjay Rath > |Sri Varaha| Mukteswara episode > > ||Om Namo Narayanaaya|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > Pranaams. OK, I am taking this off-list as I understand that you are > reluctant to share parampara insights on the Varahamihira forum. Also I see > that you probably got offended at a perceived slight to Good Ol' Maharishi > Parasara's book...smile. Just want to clarify that I meant no slight or > otherwise. Just an observation from me, thats all. > > Thanks for the further insights; you are right in that they are much food > for thought. Do you mean that the lokas are representative both of the micro > as well as macro-cosmos? Quite uncanny, that advice to study the > kalachakra...I really must pick up Ramanarayans notes on that and read it. > Now let me share my line of thinking with you: > > (1) There is a connection between the hora and the deha-antara...where is > this connection seen? (question to myself) > > (2) The three sariras are sthula, sookshma and karana. > According to the karmashayas, the seed of any event first germinates in the > karana, then on to the sookshma before manifesting in the sthula. > > (3) Since that great blessed soul Maharishi Parasara said 'shastyamsa to be > seen *for all matters*', I thought that karana sarira should correspond to > the shastyamsa for seeing these effects. So the deha-antara is to be seen in > shastyamsa. > > (4) The next level prana antara also to be seen in shastyamsa wrt pranapada > lagna as it shows the 'breathing of life' into the dormant seed. > > (5) Sookshma antara to be seen in navamsa as it directly connects us to our > bhagya...whether the seed flourishes or not. > > (6) Rest as you have already enunciated; can be seen with reference to rasi. > After seeing deha & sookshma, we can decide upon appropriate divisionals to > be seen before arriving at a decision. > > So my thinking is to use a trivarga at the minimum if we are to analyse 6 > level dasa. What do you think? > When I read BPHS to confirm this logic, I couldnt see any such pattern...not > that Parasara is imperfect, we are. > > best regards > Hari > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Hari > > BPHS assumes that you are reading it after learning that there are > > seven lokas and that these seven > lokas are connected by SIX chakras or time scales and that these six time > scales are the basis of all dasa systems. For example the Kalachakra (if you > have really studied it then you will know)has SIX levels or inner mandalas. > So every dasa system must incorporate the connection between the seven lokas > which is done by the six time scales or dasa, antara, pratyantara, > sookshamtara, prana antara and deha antara... > > > > ...more food for thought > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sanjay, OK, the discussion continues as you wanted it to be. So now we have 7 lokas joined by SIX links. Assuming that the lokas are representative of both macro and micro- cosmos (here, can you suggest some reading material or is it the puranas again?), it follows that we need 6 levels of dasa states to characterize an event taking place in the jataka. Then we also have the trisareeras AND the panchakoshas. Based on a quick reading of the online material by Swami Krishananda (divine life society), we have the following mapping of sariras to kosas as follows: Annamaya kosha – sthula sarira Pranamaya kosha – sukshma sarira Manomaya kosha – sukshma sarira Vijnanamaya kosha – sukshma sarira Anandamaya kosha – karana sarira You have said before that the panchakosas relate to the harmonics in the divisional chart scheme (D1 to D12 and so on). Therefore the logic which I proposed in the mail to you is somewhat confirmed in the sense that we can definitely use: Anandamaya kosha - karana sarira - shastyamsa (possibly higher divisionals also) - deha antara & prana antara??? Middle koshas - sukshma sarira - navamsa - sukshma antara ? Annamaya kosha - sthula sarira - rasi - maha/antar/pratyantar ? That is what I have thought till date. My doubts relate to the six links and how to relate them to the 3 sariras...somewhere we are jumping the links. Coming back to the panchakosas, from BPHS, the delineation of results is like this: Mahadasa - Antar ---> 1st kosha Antar - Pratyantar ---> 2nd kosha Pratyantar - Sukshmaantar ---> 3rd kosha Sukshmaantar - Pranaantar ---> 4th kosha Pranaantar - Dehaantar ---> 5th kosha Kindly let me know if this logic is valid or not. regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > BPHS assumes that you are reading it after learning that there are seven > lokas and that these seven lokas are connected by SIX chakras or time scales > and that these six time scales are the basis of all dasa systems. For > example the Kalachakra (if you have really studies it then you will know) > has SIX levels or inner mandalas. > So every dasa system must incorporate the connection between the seven lokas > which is done by the six time scales or dasa, antara, pratyantara, > sookshamtara, prana antara and deha antara... > > ...more food for thought > > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Hari We have six levels of dasa and kosha has a completely different meaning. What are you trying? Will it ever match or map? Read Lakshmi Ramesh's paper on this aspect in the JD. She has done a wonderful job. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath CenterR 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * onlyhari [onlyhari] Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:40 PM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Mukteswara episode ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sanjay, OK, the discussion continues as you wanted it to be. So now we have 7 lokas joined by SIX links. Assuming that the lokas are representative of both macro and micro- cosmos (here, can you suggest some reading material or is it the puranas again?), it follows that we need 6 levels of dasa states to characterize an event taking place in the jataka. Then we also have the trisareeras AND the panchakoshas. Based on a quick reading of the online material by Swami Krishananda (divine life society), we have the following mapping of sariras to kosas as follows: Annamaya kosha - sthula sarira Pranamaya kosha - sukshma sarira Manomaya kosha - sukshma sarira Vijnanamaya kosha - sukshma sarira Anandamaya kosha - karana sarira You have said before that the panchakosas relate to the harmonics in the divisional chart scheme (D1 to D12 and so on). Therefore the logic which I proposed in the mail to you is somewhat confirmed in the sense that we can definitely use: Anandamaya kosha - karana sarira - shastyamsa (possibly higher divisionals also) - deha antara & prana antara??? Middle koshas - sukshma sarira - navamsa - sukshma antara ? Annamaya kosha - sthula sarira - rasi - maha/antar/pratyantar ? That is what I have thought till date. My doubts relate to the six links and how to relate them to the 3 sariras...somewhere we are jumping the links. Coming back to the panchakosas, from BPHS, the delineation of results is like this: Mahadasa - Antar ---> 1st kosha Antar - Pratyantar ---> 2nd kosha Pratyantar - Sukshmaantar ---> 3rd kosha Sukshmaantar - Pranaantar ---> 4th kosha Pranaantar - Dehaantar ---> 5th kosha Kindly let me know if this logic is valid or not. regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > BPHS assumes that you are reading it after learning that there are > seven lokas and that these seven lokas are connected by SIX chakras or time scales > and that these six time scales are the basis of all dasa systems. For > example the Kalachakra (if you have really studies it then you will know) > has SIX levels or inner mandalas. > So every dasa system must incorporate the connection between the seven lokas > which is done by the six time scales or dasa, antara, pratyantara, > sookshamtara, prana antara and deha antara... > > ...more food for thought > > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. Could you please explain what is the context or meaning in which koshas are to be used? Are you referring to the paper that Lakshmi Ramesh presented at the SJC Mumbai conference, the one on sri yantra and tracing the parallels? regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > We have six levels of dasa and kosha has a completely different meaning. > What are you trying? Will it ever match or map? Read Lakshmi Ramesh's paper > on this aspect in the JD. She has done a wonderful job. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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