Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna lord is not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less power, worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means that it is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " <sandeep_khare2000 wrote: > > Dear Group Member > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed with 5th > lord. " > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of native > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any possible > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. Further > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > with regards > Sandeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Kiran, Should it give less concentration on studies ? regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna lord is > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less power, > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means that it > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed with 5th > > lord. " > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of native > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any possible > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. Further > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > with regards > > Sandeep > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Lalit, Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, complexion, nature of birth etc. Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person physically and not good nature of birth Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna lord usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is in most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th house, it will not be able to do so. However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following also: 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? Is he benefic/malefic? 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For his lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Kiran, > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna lord > is > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less power, > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means that it > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed with > 5th > > > lord. " > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > native > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any possible > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > Further > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > with regards > > > Sandeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Kiran, Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot generalise it. Anita"kiran.rama" <kiran.rama wrote: Dear Lalit,Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength,complexion, nature of birth etc.Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak personphysically and not good nature of birthNow for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna lordusually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is inmost cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5thhouse, it will not be able to do so.However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following also:1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed?Is he benefic/malefic?2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For hislagna is he functional benefic/malefic?Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Dear Kiran,> > Should it give less concentration on studies ?> > regards,> Lalit.> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "kiran.rama" > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> >> > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna lord > is> > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less power,> > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means that it> > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house.> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sandeep_khare2000"> > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group Member> > > > > > What does it means If "Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed with > 5th > > > lord."> > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > native > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any possible > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > Further > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect.> > > > > > with regards> > > Sandeep> > >> >> Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Kiran and Anita ji, Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough supporting factors. However, i m not much sure of it. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma <jhilmil.angan_09 wrote: > > Dear Kiran, > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot generalise it. > Anita > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > Dear Lalit, > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > complexion, nature of birth etc. > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > physically and not good nature of birth > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna lord > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is in > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > house, it will not be able to do so. > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following also: > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > Is he benefic/malefic? > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For his > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna lord > > is > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less power, > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means that it > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed with > > 5th > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > native > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any possible > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > Further > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Lalit, it is the reverse. The House where the lagna lord placed becomes the most important house and all the significant events of the person will around that house. In terms of significance 1) house of Lagna lord 2) house of the lord where Lagna lord is in 3) Place of Chandra Lagna 4) house of the lord where Chandra's lord is in 5) Similarly for Sun,9th,10th,7th,5,4,6,8,12,2,11,3rd lords normally in that order. 6) BV Raman, Sanjay Rath also gives importance to Atmakaraka and Arudha Lagna.( Becoz of focus on spirituality, character, good name and fame) Regards Sridhar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > supporting factors. > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > generalise it. > > Anita > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > lord > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > in > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > also: > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > his > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > lord > > > is > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > power, > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > that it > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > with > > > 5th > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > native > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > possible > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > Further > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Lalitji, You are wrong. Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or aspects - Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the house (e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will increase their powers which is bad). Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then the lagna lord is not powered enough to do the needful for that house Hope it clarifies regards kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > supporting factors. > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > generalise it. > > Anita > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > lord > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > in > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > also: > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > his > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > lord > > > is > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > power, > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > that it > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > with > > > 5th > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > native > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > possible > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > Further > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Appulali, There is nothing like most important house. Every house signifies something and whether it gives fruit depends on the house lord, the planets posited in the house, planets aspecting the house and periodicity depends on dasa. Lagna lord usually causes good to the powers of the houses that it posits. However if it is in dustana it will increase the maraka powers of the dustana regards kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " appulali " <appulali wrote: > > Lalit, it is the reverse. > > The House where the lagna lord placed becomes the most important house > and all the significant events of the person will around that house. > In terms of significance > 1) house of Lagna lord > 2) house of the lord where Lagna lord is in > 3) Place of Chandra Lagna > 4) house of the lord where Chandra's lord is in > 5) Similarly for Sun,9th,10th,7th,5,4,6,8,12,2,11,3rd lords normally > in that order. > 6) BV Raman, Sanjay Rath also gives importance to Atmakaraka and > Arudha Lagna.( Becoz of focus on spirituality, character, good name > and fame) > > Regards > Sridhar > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > > supporting factors. > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > > generalise it. > > > Anita > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > > lord > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > > in > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > > also: > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > > his > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > > lord > > > > is > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > > power, > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > > that it > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > > with > > > > 5th > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > > native > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > possible > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > > Further > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Kiran, Pls. let us know little more about u, so that, we can address u properly. Let's take up the cases, 1) This girl is born in 30'th july 1985, at 1:35 pm, her lagna lord (venus) is in 9'th house (gemini), her father faces bad luck and almost closed his business. (Srinadhar Ji is aware of this chart). 2) If i m correct, in the chart of GuruDev Ravindra Nath's Tagore, his lagna lord is placed in 5'th house, u can see none of his children could do well in studies and in life as well, he was deprived of enough happiness through progeny. 3) I dont remember the details of the horoscope, but i found one horoscope in which lagna lord was placed in 7'th house, the person was more concerned with his likings and interests ignoring his wife's interests thus there was a gap in between them. I have a book of astrology ( ... Navneetam by R Santhaanam ) in which a shloka is mentioned that placement of lagna lord in a house doesn't allow the native to fully enjoy the significations of that house, however, there are exceptions, like placement of lagna lord in 10'th will make the native career oriented. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Appulali, > > There is nothing like most important house. > Every house signifies something and whether it gives fruit depends on > the house lord, the planets posited in the house, planets aspecting > the house and periodicity depends on dasa. > > Lagna lord usually causes good to the powers of the houses that it > posits. However if it is in dustana it will increase the maraka powers > of the dustana > > regards > kiran > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " appulali " > <appulali@> wrote: > > > > Lalit, it is the reverse. > > > > The House where the lagna lord placed becomes the most important house > > and all the significant events of the person will around that house. > > In terms of significance > > 1) house of Lagna lord > > 2) house of the lord where Lagna lord is in > > 3) Place of Chandra Lagna > > 4) house of the lord where Chandra's lord is in > > 5) Similarly for Sun,9th,10th,7th,5,4,6,8,12,2,11,3rd lords normally > > in that order. > > 6) BV Raman, Sanjay Rath also gives importance to Atmakaraka and > > Arudha Lagna.( Becoz of focus on spirituality, character, good name > > and fame) > > > > Regards > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > > > supporting factors. > > > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > > > generalise it. > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > > > lord > > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > > > in > > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > > > also: > > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > > > his > > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > > > lord > > > > > is > > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > > > power, > > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > > > that it > > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > > > with > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > > > native > > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > > possible > > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > > > Further > > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Dear Lalit, You can address me as Kiran. You must look at the things holistically. Lagna lord generally bestows good results on the house that it is in - if house is good, good things of the house is magnified and if house is bad, bad things of house is magnified. If lagna lord is badly placed, (example debilitation/enemy house), it will not be able to show the results that are expected. If malefic is in lagna it will affect lagna and lagna lord - and all results become negative. Please look at the horoscopes again holistically (the ones you mentioned below) - I will take a look later this week Regards Kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Kiran, > > Pls. let us know little more about u, so that, we can address u > properly. > > Let's take up the cases, > > 1) This girl is born in 30'th july 1985, at 1:35 pm, her lagna lord > (venus) is in 9'th house (gemini), her father faces bad luck and > almost closed his business. (Srinadhar Ji is aware of this chart). > > 2) If i m correct, in the chart of GuruDev Ravindra Nath's Tagore, > his lagna lord is placed in 5'th house, u can see none of his > children could do well in studies and in life as well, he was > deprived of enough happiness through progeny. > > 3) I dont remember the details of the horoscope, but i found one > horoscope in which lagna lord was placed in 7'th house, the person > was more concerned with his likings and interests ignoring his wife's > interests thus there was a gap in between them. > > I have a book of astrology ( ... Navneetam by R Santhaanam ) in which > a shloka is mentioned that placement of lagna lord in a house doesn't > allow the native to fully enjoy the significations of that house, > however, there are exceptions, like placement of lagna lord in 10'th > will make the native career oriented. > > regards, > Lalit. > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Appulali, > > > > There is nothing like most important house. > > Every house signifies something and whether it gives fruit depends > on > > the house lord, the planets posited in the house, planets aspecting > > the house and periodicity depends on dasa. > > > > Lagna lord usually causes good to the powers of the houses that it > > posits. However if it is in dustana it will increase the maraka > powers > > of the dustana > > > > regards > > kiran > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " appulali " > > <appulali@> wrote: > > > > > > Lalit, it is the reverse. > > > > > > The House where the lagna lord placed becomes the most important > house > > > and all the significant events of the person will around that > house. > > > In terms of significance > > > 1) house of Lagna lord > > > 2) house of the lord where Lagna lord is in > > > 3) Place of Chandra Lagna > > > 4) house of the lord where Chandra's lord is in > > > 5) Similarly for Sun,9th,10th,7th,5,4,6,8,12,2,11,3rd lords > normally > > > in that order. > > > 6) BV Raman, Sanjay Rath also gives importance to Atmakaraka and > > > Arudha Lagna.( Becoz of focus on spirituality, character, good > name > > > and fame) > > > > > > Regards > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted > to > > > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our > gurus > > > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, > the > > > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not > enough > > > > supporting factors. > > > > > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote > about > > > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also > get > > > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > > > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > > > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We > cannot > > > > generalise it. > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. > Lagna > > > > lord > > > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as > it is > > > > in > > > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in > 5th > > > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at > following > > > > also: > > > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he > placed? > > > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. > For > > > > his > > > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the > lagna > > > > lord > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very > less > > > > power, > > > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord > means > > > > that it > > > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and > placed > > > > with > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th > house of > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > > > possible > > > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from > lagna. > > > > > > Further > > > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Dear Kiran, What about if Lagna Lord is in Dusthan but exalted. thanks kamal - kiran.rama Vedic Astrologyandhealing Monday, November 19, 2007 6:04 PM [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: !!! Mars Effect !!!! Lalitji,You are wrong.Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or aspects -Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the house(e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will increasetheir powers which is bad).Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then the lagnalord is not powered enough to do the needful for that houseHope it clarifiesregardskiranVedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsolwrote:>> Dear Kiran and Anita ji,> > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > supporting factors.> > However, i m not much sure of it.> > regards,> Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote:> >> > Dear Kiran,> > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > generalise it. > > Anita> > > > "kiran.rama" <kiran.rama@> wrote:> > Dear Lalit,> > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength,> > complexion, nature of birth etc.> > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person> > physically and not good nature of birth> > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > lord> > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > in> > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th> > house, it will not be able to do so.> > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > also:> > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed?> > Is he benefic/malefic?> > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > his> > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic?> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kiran,> > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ?> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "kiran.rama" > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > lord > > > is> > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > power,> > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > that it> > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sandeep_khare2000"> > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Group Member> > > > > > > > > > What does it means If "Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > with > > > 5th > > > > > lord."> > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > native > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > possible > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > Further > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect.> > > > > > > > > > with regards> > > > > Sandeep> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Lagna lord in dustan will do good for things signified by the house. Exalted lagna lord more so E.g: Exalted lagna lord in 6th house (dustan) will increase attack by enemies, more enemies, counter-attack by native, injuries, accidents, diseases etc. Regards kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " <sightsolutions wrote: > > Dear Kiran, > > What about if Lagna Lord is in Dusthan but exalted. > > thanks > > kamal > - > kiran.rama > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Monday, November 19, 2007 6:04 PM > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: !!! Mars Effect !!!! > > > Lalitji, > > You are wrong. > > Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or aspects - > Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. > So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the house > (e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will increase > their powers which is bad). > > Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then the lagna > lord is not powered enough to do the needful for that house > > Hope it clarifies > regards > kiran > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our gurus > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not enough > > supporting factors. > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > > generalise it. > > > Anita > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > > lord > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as it is > > in > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at following > > also: > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > > his > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the lagna > > lord > > > > is > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > > power, > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > > that it > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > > with > > > > 5th > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th house of > > > > native > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > possible > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > > Further > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Dear Kiran, I have SUN+MARS in 6'th house on leo, which is aspected by Jupitor from 10'th house, Jupitor is lagna lord also, mine is pisces lagna. What u think for me in this context of malifics in 6'th house. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Lagna lord in dustan will do good for things signified by the house. > Exalted lagna lord more so > > E.g: Exalted lagna lord in 6th house (dustan) will increase attack by > enemies, more enemies, counter-attack by native, injuries, accidents, > diseases etc. > > Regards > kiran > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > What about if Lagna Lord is in Dusthan but exalted. > > > > thanks > > > > kamal > > - > > kiran.rama > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Monday, November 19, 2007 6:04 PM > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: !!! Mars Effect !!!! > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > You are wrong. > > > > Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or aspects - > > Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. > > So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the house > > (e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will increase > > their powers which is bad). > > > > Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then the lagna > > lord is not powered enough to do the needful for that house > > > > Hope it clarifies > > regards > > kiran > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I wanted to > > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our > gurus > > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, the > > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not > enough > > > supporting factors. > > > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote about > > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will also get > > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., his > > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will also > > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We cannot > > > generalise it. > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak person > > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. Lagna > > > lord > > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as > it is > > > in > > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated in 5th > > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at > following > > > also: > > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he placed? > > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say Jupiter. For > > > his > > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the > lagna > > > lord > > > > > is > > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very less > > > power, > > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord means > > > that it > > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and placed > > > with > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th > house of > > > > > native > > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > > possible > > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from lagna. > > > > > Further > > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Lalitji, Always give full chart - because there has to be a holistic view. First of all, 6th house is dustana and signifies all bad things like: enemies, attack by enemies, accidents/injuries, diseases, winning of native over enemies, mental affliction/worries, incompatible spouse (6H is 12th from 7th) Significance of 6th house manifests through its dispositor (Sun in your case) - as he is in 6th house (swakshetre dwigunam): But as 6th house lord is functional malefic, it is bad for things specified by the house. Further lagna lord Jupiter in 6th house gives more power to the things signified by the 6th house (dustana). Functional benefic Mars in 6th house furthers the things signified by the 6th house If 6 HL was benefic, you would have had all signified by 6th house which would be very bad. But here, presence of malefic Sun is doing good in your case. Further analysis depends on the strength of placement of mars and Jupiter. I request more knowledgeable persons to correct/add to my analysis Regards kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Kiran, > > I have SUN+MARS in 6'th house on leo, which is aspected by Jupitor > from 10'th house, Jupitor is lagna lord also, mine is pisces lagna. > > What u think for me in this context of malifics in 6'th house. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > Lagna lord in dustan will do good for things signified by the house. > > Exalted lagna lord more so > > > > E.g: Exalted lagna lord in 6th house (dustan) will increase attack > by > > enemies, more enemies, counter-attack by native, injuries, > accidents, > > diseases etc. > > > > Regards > > kiran > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > What about if Lagna Lord is in Dusthan but exalted. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > kamal > > > - > > > kiran.rama > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > Monday, November 19, 2007 6:04 PM > > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: !!! Mars Effect !!!! > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > You are wrong. > > > > > > Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or > aspects - > > > Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. > > > So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the > house > > > (e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will > increase > > > their powers which is bad). > > > > > > Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then > the lagna > > > lord is not powered enough to do the needful for that house > > > > > > Hope it clarifies > > > regards > > > kiran > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I > wanted to > > > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our > > gurus > > > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, > the > > > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not > > enough > > > > supporting factors. > > > > > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote > about > > > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will > also get > > > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., > his > > > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will > also > > > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We > cannot > > > > generalise it. > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak > person > > > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. > Lagna > > > > lord > > > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as > > it is > > > > in > > > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated > in 5th > > > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at > > following > > > > also: > > > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he > placed? > > > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say > Jupiter. For > > > > his > > > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the > > lagna > > > > lord > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very > less > > > > power, > > > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord > means > > > > that it > > > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and > placed > > > > with > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th > > house of > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > > > possible > > > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from > lagna. > > > > > > Further > > > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Dear Kiran Ji, Thanx a lot for putting in ur time for analysing this issue, I too find 6'th and 8'th house bit complicated to understand. Practically i have observed in my life that i dont get favor from people easily, i have few enemical friends too, but I never got defeated, in fact, people whose bad time is approaching, will only begin a fight with me, i will win in the last, I have won always. In my study period, I never got defeated in any debate compition right from 2nd standrad till my masters, it's becoz, i make my concepts after thinking a lot, I w'd go to the bottom most level, I never did compition with any body in life except the author of the book itself. I also agree to you that i should have posted complete horoscope. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Lalitji, > > Always give full chart - because there has to be a holistic view. > > First of all, 6th house is dustana and signifies all bad things like: > enemies, attack by enemies, accidents/injuries, diseases, winning of > native over enemies, mental affliction/worries, incompatible spouse > (6H is 12th from 7th) > > Significance of 6th house manifests through its dispositor (Sun in > your case) - as he is in 6th house (swakshetre dwigunam): But as 6th > house lord is functional malefic, it is bad for things specified by > the house. > > Further lagna lord Jupiter in 6th house gives more power to the things > signified by the 6th house (dustana). Functional benefic Mars in 6th > house furthers the things signified by the 6th house > > If 6 HL was benefic, you would have had all signified by 6th house > which would be very bad. But here, presence of malefic Sun is doing > good in your case. > Further analysis depends on the strength of placement of mars and Jupiter. > > I request more knowledgeable persons to correct/add to my analysis > > Regards > kiran Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > I have SUN+MARS in 6'th house on leo, which is aspected by Jupitor > > from 10'th house, Jupitor is lagna lord also, mine is pisces lagna. > > > > What u think for me in this context of malifics in 6'th house. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > Lagna lord in dustan will do good for things signified by the house. > > > Exalted lagna lord more so > > > > > > E.g: Exalted lagna lord in 6th house (dustan) will increase attack > > by > > > enemies, more enemies, counter-attack by native, injuries, > > accidents, > > > diseases etc. > > > > > > Regards > > > kiran > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Vedic Learner " > > > <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What about if Lagna Lord is in Dusthan but exalted. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > kamal > > > > - > > > > kiran.rama > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > Monday, November 19, 2007 6:04 PM > > > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: !!! Mars Effect !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > You are wrong. > > > > > > > > Lagna lord signifies good for any house that it posits or > > aspects - > > > > Pls. note that it does good for what the house signifies. > > > > So if the house is a dustana, it will increase powers of the > > house > > > > (e.g: 6/8/12 houses are dustanas and lagna lord here will > > increase > > > > their powers which is bad). > > > > > > > > Now if lagna lord is in a house that it is debilitated, then > > the lagna > > > > lord is not powered enough to do the needful for that house > > > > > > > > Hope it clarifies > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <litsol@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran and Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for sharing ur knowledge with me and the group, I > > wanted to > > > > > confirm one of my observations and i think it's noticed by our > > > gurus > > > > > also, the thing is, when lagna lord is placed in some house, > > the > > > > > house's significations reduced to some extent if there is not > > > enough > > > > > supporting factors. > > > > > > > > > > However, i m not much sure of it. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , anita sharma > > > > > <jhilmil.angan_09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, being debilitated in Fifth House, will denote > > about > > > > > the poor condition of his physical well-being and it will > > also get > > > > > connected with the significations of the Fifth House, i.e., > > his > > > > > wisdom, higher education, children, etc. Moreover, it will > > also > > > > > depend on in which nakshatra the lagna Lord is placed ? We > > cannot > > > > > generalise it. > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies physical body, apperance, physical strength, > > > > > > complexion, nature of birth etc. > > > > > > Lagna lord in a debilitated house will indicate a weak > > person > > > > > > physically and not good nature of birth > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for studies, it is usually signified by the 5th house. > > Lagna > > > > > lord > > > > > > usually bestows good results for all houses that it is in as > > > it is > > > > > in > > > > > > most cases functional benefic. But since it is debilitated > > in 5th > > > > > > house, it will not be able to do so. > > > > > > However this is not enough to drive a conclusion. Look at > > > following > > > > > also: > > > > > > 1. Who is the 5th lord in horoscope? Where and how is he > > placed? > > > > > > Is he benefic/malefic? > > > > > > 2. Which other planet aspects the 5th house? You say > > Jupiter. For > > > > > his > > > > > > lagna is he functional benefic/malefic? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should it give less concentration on studies ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " kiran.rama " > > > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is debilitated means that the position of the > > > lagna > > > > > lord > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not good. It is in a sign where it is debilitated (very > > less > > > > > power, > > > > > > > > worst power than in enemy house). Placed with 5th lord > > means > > > > > that it > > > > > > > > is in the same house as the lord of the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sandeep_khare2000 " > > > > > > > > <sandeep_khare2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it means If " Lagna Lord is debilitated and > > placed > > > > > with > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > lord. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another Question is that " When Lagna lord is in 5th > > > house of > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > and aspected by Ju who gets exalted in lagan then any > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > problem?? from Mars who gets 12 from AL and 8th from > > lagna. > > > > > > > Further > > > > > > > > > how the person will nullify the Mars effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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