NeechaBhanga Detailed Post = Vreality_AU (Su)

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Dear Su,

I saw u in the other group, asking about the NeechaBhanga Yoga, Pls. read this - Lalit.

Neechabhanga, Rajyoga

 

One of the sources of strength of a planet is the state of exaltation or "uchcha". In this state of exaltation, a planet is said to get a lot strength to do good - even naturally inimical planets like Saturn do not cause harm to the traits of a horoscope when in exalted state. The planet gives lot of beneficial results when it is a ruler of a good house but on the other hand it does not do a lot of harm even if it is a lord of a difficult house like the 8th or 12th

In the seventh sign from the exaltation, the planet is devoid of all the strength - also known the state of debilitation, i.e. "neecha". The planet becomes weak and can also cause hindrances. However, loss of strength is not the important point here, the loss of "dignity" is. That is why our learned gurus chose the word "neecha" for such a state, they did not use the word "ashakta", which is the Sanskrit word for powerless

the position of planet from Moon or lagna is important and is automatically implied unless stated otherwise. It would be best if the conditions are satisfied from both. The debility is canceled when -

 

the neecha planet is free from combustion or is retrograde and is not in any dusthana (6th, 8th or 12th), the lord of the sign where this planet would get exalted is in kendra, the lord of current house where the planet is debilitated and the lord of sign where this planet would be exalted are situated mutually in kendras, the neecha planet is aspected by lord of exaltation sign of the planet - of course, there ought to be a good relationship between the planet and ruler of the sign where the planet is exalted, the planet that becomes exalted in the current sign is in kendra from lagna or moon, this debilitated planet is exalted in Navamsha chart.

Conditions 1, 2, 5, 6 are explicitly mentioned as a rajyogas in Dr B.V. Raman's book "Three hundred important combinations". Along with these, conditions 3 and 4 are additionally called as rajyogas by J.N. Bhasin.

To illustrate the point, consider a horoscope where Saturn is in Aries and hence debilitated. As per the rules, Saturn's debilitation would be canceled when -

 

Saturn is in any house except 6th, 8th or 12th - e.g. this would happen for Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn lagna or rashi. However, this condition may not be true all the time and must be looked at in conjunction with other conditions as well. Per Dr. B.V. Raman, a retrograde Saturn, debilitated in 10th house can damage a person's career beyond repair, unless there is some benefic aspect on 10th house. Saturn's favourable placement in other divisional chart would also help in mitigating the effects. Saturn gets exaltation in Libra, which is the sign ruled by Venus. According to rule number 2, Saturn's exaltation gets canceled when Venus is in kendra. Saturn is debilitated in Aries, which is rules by Mars. Thus, Saturn's exaltation would be canceled if Mars and Venus are in mutual kendras. Saturn's debilitation would be canceled if Venus aspects it. Aries is the exaltation sign of Sun. If Sun is in kendra, Saturn's debilitation is canceled. This is not considered to be a one of the conditions causing neechabhanga by Dr. Raman, although it is mentioned in his book. If Saturn is in Libra in Navamsha chart, its debilitation stands canceled.

In the context of debilitation of planets, other yogas that are worth mentioning are -

 

(a) When ruler of lagna is in moveable sign, (b) the lagna itself is a movable sign and © if the lord of Navamsha occupied by a debilitated planet is in a kendra or trikona, this Navamsha lord is capable of giving a rajyoga. Mutual aspect between lagna lord and a debilitated planet with Rahu and Saturn in 10th, aspected by benefic 9th lord, gives rajyoga. This effect would be seen in the dasha and antardasha periods of this debilitated planet.

Does mere cancellation of debility mean that the planet has become a rajyoga karaka? It is a matter of debate. Condition 1, which states that the planet just needs to be away from Sun and not situated in 3 out of 12 houses in a horoscope would apply to a majority of charts. This would mean that the debilitation would cancel for little less than 75% of all individuals. In my humble opinion, this condition is too generic to cause rajyoga.

A NeechaBhanga Rajyoga should be caused only when such a planet getting the neechabhanga is situated in a kendra and is strong in Navamsha as well. It should also simultaneously be a lord of houses 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th and not the rest of the houses in the chart.

The opinion on ownership of kendra and trine houses is based on a simple reasoning - a planet becomes a yoga karaka by by the virtue of lordship of certain houses and not by its position in horoscope, e.g. Saturn is a rajyoga karaka for Libra lagna by becoming ruler of houses 4 and 5, and for Taurus by being the ruler of houses 9 and 10. Unlike a planet which is exalted, a planet getting Neechabhanga would still be naturally inclined to do harm when it is lord of dusthanas - just like other planets in the chart.

Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation.

 

 

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Dear Lalit

 

thank you for this info. Most kind of you.

 

warm rgds

Su

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

>

> Dear Su,

>

> I saw u in the other group, asking about the NeechaBhanga Yoga, Pls.

> read this - Lalit.

> Neechabhanga, Rajyoga

> One of the sources of strength of a planet is the state of exaltation or

> " uchcha " . In this state of exaltation, a planet is said to get a

> lot strength to do good - even naturally inimical planets like Saturn do

> not cause harm to the traits of a horoscope when in exalted state. The

> planet gives lot of beneficial results when it is a ruler of a good

> house but on the other hand it does not do a lot of harm even if it is a

> lord of a difficult house like the 8th or 12th

>

> In the seventh sign from the exaltation, the planet is devoid of all the

> strength - also known the state of debilitation, i.e. " neecha " .

> The planet becomes weak and can also cause hindrances. However, loss of

> strength is not the important point here, the loss of " dignity "

> is. That is why our learned gurus chose the word " neecha " for

> such a state, they did not use the word " ashakta " , which is the

> Sanskrit word for powerless

>

> the position of planet from Moon or lagna is important and is

> automatically implied unless stated otherwise. It would be best if the

> conditions are satisfied from both. The debility is canceled when -

>

> 1. the neecha planet is free from combustion or is retrograde and is

> not in any dusthana (6th, 8th or 12th), 2. the lord of the sign

> where this planet would get exalted is in kendra, 3. the lord of

> current house where the planet is debilitated and the lord of sign where

> this planet would be exalted are situated mutually in kendras, 4.

> the neecha planet is aspected by lord of exaltation sign of the planet -

> of course, there ought to be a good relationship between the planet and

> ruler of the sign where the planet is exalted, 5. the planet that

> becomes exalted in the current sign is in kendra from lagna or moon,

> 6. this debilitated planet is exalted in Navamsha chart.

>

> Conditions 1, 2, 5, 6 are explicitly mentioned as a rajyogas in Dr B.V.

> Raman's book " Three hundred important combinations " . Along

> with these, conditions 3 and 4 are additionally called as rajyogas by

> J.N. Bhasin.

>

> To illustrate the point, consider a horoscope where Saturn is in Aries

> and hence debilitated. As per the rules, Saturn's debilitation would

> be canceled when -

>

> 1. Saturn is in any house except 6th, 8th or 12th - e.g. this would

> happen for Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn lagna or rashi. However,

> this condition may not be true all the time and must be looked at in

> conjunction with other conditions as well. Per Dr. B.V. Raman, a

> retrograde Saturn, debilitated in 10th house can damage a person's

> career beyond repair, unless there is some benefic aspect on 10th house.

> Saturn's favourable placement in other divisional chart would also

> help in mitigating the effects. 2. Saturn gets exaltation in Libra,

> which is the sign ruled by Venus. According to rule number 2,

> Saturn's exaltation gets canceled when Venus is in kendra. 3.

> Saturn is debilitated in Aries, which is rules by Mars. Thus,

> Saturn's exaltation would be canceled if Mars and Venus are in

> mutual kendras. 4. Saturn's debilitation would be canceled if

> Venus aspects it. 5. Aries is the exaltation sign of Sun. If Sun is

> in kendra, Saturn's debilitation is canceled. This is not considered

> to be a one of the conditions causing neechabhanga by Dr. Raman,

> although it is mentioned in his book. 6. If Saturn is in Libra in

> Navamsha chart, its debilitation stands canceled.

>

> In the context of debilitation of planets, other yogas that are worth

> mentioning are -

>

> 1. (a) When ruler of lagna is in moveable sign, (b) the lagna itself

> is a movable sign and © if the lord of Navamsha occupied by a

> debilitated planet is in a kendra or trikona, this Navamsha lord is

> capable of giving a rajyoga. 2. Mutual aspect between lagna lord and

> a debilitated planet with Rahu and Saturn in 10th, aspected by benefic

> 9th lord, gives rajyoga. This effect would be seen in the dasha and

> antardasha periods of this debilitated planet.

>

> Does mere cancellation of debility mean that the planet has become a

> rajyoga karaka? It is a matter of debate. Condition 1, which states that

> the planet just needs to be away from Sun and not situated in 3 out of

> 12 houses in a horoscope would apply to a majority of charts. This would

> mean that the debilitation would cancel for little less than 75% of all

> individuals. In my humble opinion, this condition is too generic to

> cause rajyoga.

>

> A NeechaBhanga Rajyoga should be caused only when such a planet getting

> the neechabhanga is situated in a kendra and is strong in Navamsha as

> well. It should also simultaneously be a lord of houses 1st, 4th, 5th,

> 7th, 9th and 10th and not the rest of the houses in the chart.

>

> The opinion on ownership of kendra and trine houses is based on a simple

> reasoning - a planet becomes a yoga karaka by by the virtue of lordship

> of certain houses and not by its position in horoscope, e.g. Saturn is a

> rajyoga karaka for Libra lagna by becoming ruler of houses 4 and 5, and

> for Taurus by being the ruler of houses 9 and 10. Unlike a planet which

> is exalted, a planet getting Neechabhanga would still be naturally

> inclined to do harm when it is lord of dusthanas - just like other

> planets in the chart.

>

> Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation.

>

[Guest guest]

hare krishna,

dear lalit and su ,

i dont read full post ,but the last line catch my attention

"Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation=

======================================.

But see all astro texts says necha bhanga creats raja yoga ,so it shud behav like exalted planets after some struggles ,so its known as neecha bhanga raja yoga other wise how it givs a raja yoga.

But only some savants differ on how the cancellation s to be seen-whether from lagna or from moon ?.

But i still blv lagna is shortest unit and so it shud work more better and enhanced way if the cancellation is from lagna ,some says moon shows our susstence of all yogas and so it shows how we get help and lagna shows our efforts to acheive it .Pls work on more charts and we can solve this mystery .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "vreality_au" <reality_v wrote:>> Dear Lalit> > thank you for this info. Most kind of you.> > warm rgds> Su> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Su,> > > > I saw u in the other group, asking about the NeechaBhanga Yoga, Pls.> > read this - Lalit.> > Neechabhanga, Rajyoga> > One of the sources of strength of a planet is the state of exaltation or> > "uchcha". In this state of exaltation, a planet is said to get a> > lot strength to do good - even naturally inimical planets like Saturn do> > not cause harm to the traits of a horoscope when in exalted state. The> > planet gives lot of beneficial results when it is a ruler of a good> > house but on the other hand it does not do a lot of harm even if it is a> > lord of a difficult house like the 8th or 12th> > > > In the seventh sign from the exaltation, the planet is devoid of all the> > strength - also known the state of debilitation, i.e. "neecha".> > The planet becomes weak and can also cause hindrances. However, loss of> > strength is not the important point here, the loss of "dignity"> > is. That is why our learned gurus chose the word "neecha" for> > such a state, they did not use the word "ashakta", which is the> > Sanskrit word for powerless> > > > the position of planet from Moon or lagna is important and is> > automatically implied unless stated otherwise. It would be best if the> > conditions are satisfied from both. The debility is canceled when -> > > > 1. the neecha planet is free from combustion or is retrograde and is> > not in any dusthana (6th, 8th or 12th), 2. the lord of the sign> > where this planet would get exalted is in kendra, 3. the lord of> > current house where the planet is debilitated and the lord of sign where> > this planet would be exalted are situated mutually in kendras, 4.> > the neecha planet is aspected by lord of exaltation sign of the planet -> > of course, there ought to be a good relationship between the planet and> > ruler of the sign where the planet is exalted, 5. the planet that> > becomes exalted in the current sign is in kendra from lagna or moon, > > 6. this debilitated planet is exalted in Navamsha chart.> > > > Conditions 1, 2, 5, 6 are explicitly mentioned as a rajyogas in Dr B.V.> > Raman's book "Three hundred important combinations". Along> > with these, conditions 3 and 4 are additionally called as rajyogas by> > J.N. Bhasin.> > > > To illustrate the point, consider a horoscope where Saturn is in Aries> > and hence debilitated. As per the rules, Saturn's debilitation would> > be canceled when -> > > > 1. Saturn is in any house except 6th, 8th or 12th - e.g. this would> > happen for Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn lagna or rashi. However,> > this condition may not be true all the time and must be looked at in> > conjunction with other conditions as well. Per Dr. B.V. Raman, a> > retrograde Saturn, debilitated in 10th house can damage a person's> > career beyond repair, unless there is some benefic aspect on 10th house.> > Saturn's favourable placement in other divisional chart would also> > help in mitigating the effects. 2. Saturn gets exaltation in Libra,> > which is the sign ruled by Venus. According to rule number 2,> > Saturn's exaltation gets canceled when Venus is in kendra. 3.> > Saturn is debilitated in Aries, which is rules by Mars. Thus,> > Saturn's exaltation would be canceled if Mars and Venus are in> > mutual kendras. 4. Saturn's debilitation would be canceled if> > Venus aspects it. 5. Aries is the exaltation sign of Sun. If Sun is> > in kendra, Saturn's debilitation is canceled. This is not considered> > to be a one of the conditions causing neechabhanga by Dr. Raman,> > although it is mentioned in his book. 6. If Saturn is in Libra in> > Navamsha chart, its debilitation stands canceled.> > > > In the context of debilitation of planets, other yogas that are worth> > mentioning are -> > > > 1. (a) When ruler of lagna is in moveable sign, (b) the lagna itself> > is a movable sign and © if the lord of Navamsha occupied by a> > debilitated planet is in a kendra or trikona, this Navamsha lord is> > capable of giving a rajyoga. 2. Mutual aspect between lagna lord and> > a debilitated planet with Rahu and Saturn in 10th, aspected by benefic> > 9th lord, gives rajyoga. This effect would be seen in the dasha and> > antardasha periods of this debilitated planet.> > > > Does mere cancellation of debility mean that the planet has become a> > rajyoga karaka? It is a matter of debate. Condition 1, which states that> > the planet just needs to be away from Sun and not situated in 3 out of> > 12 houses in a horoscope would apply to a majority of charts. This would> > mean that the debilitation would cancel for little less than 75% of all> > individuals. In my humble opinion, this condition is too generic to> > cause rajyoga.> > > > A NeechaBhanga Rajyoga should be caused only when such a planet getting> > the neechabhanga is situated in a kendra and is strong in Navamsha as> > well. It should also simultaneously be a lord of houses 1st, 4th, 5th,> > 7th, 9th and 10th and not the rest of the houses in the chart.> > > > The opinion on ownership of kendra and trine houses is based on a simple> > reasoning - a planet becomes a yoga karaka by by the virtue of lordship> > of certain houses and not by its position in horoscope, e.g. Saturn is a> > rajyoga karaka for Libra lagna by becoming ruler of houses 4 and 5, and> > for Taurus by being the ruler of houses 9 and 10. Unlike a planet which> > is exalted, a planet getting Neechabhanga would still be naturally> > inclined to do harm when it is lord of dusthanas - just like other> > planets in the chart.> > > > Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation.> >>

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Dear Sunilji, namaskar

thank you for your feedback on that article.

 

warm rgds

Su

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> hare krishna,

>

> dear lalit and su ,

>

> i dont read full post ,but the last line catch my attention

>

> " Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation=

>

> ======================================.

>

> But see all astro texts says necha bhanga creats raja yoga ,so it shud

> behav like exalted planets after some struggles ,so its known as neecha

> bhanga raja yoga other wise how it givs a raja yoga.

>

> But only some savants differ on how the cancellation s to be

> seen-whether from lagna or from moon ?.

>

> But i still blv lagna is shortest unit and so it shud work more better

> and enhanced way if the cancellation is from lagna ,some says moon shows

> our susstence of all yogas and so it shows how we get help and lagna

> shows our efforts to acheive it .Pls work on more charts and we can

> solve this mystery .

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vreality_au "

> <reality_v@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit

> >

> > thank you for this info. Most kind of you.

> >

> > warm rgds

> > Su

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > I saw u in the other group, asking about the NeechaBhanga Yoga, Pls.

> > > read this - Lalit.

> > > Neechabhanga, Rajyoga

> > > One of the sources of strength of a planet is the state of

> exaltation or

> > > " uchcha " . In this state of exaltation, a planet is said to get a

> > > lot strength to do good - even naturally inimical planets like

> Saturn do

> > > not cause harm to the traits of a horoscope when in exalted state.

> The

> > > planet gives lot of beneficial results when it is a ruler of a good

> > > house but on the other hand it does not do a lot of harm even if it

> is a

> > > lord of a difficult house like the 8th or 12th

> > >

> > > In the seventh sign from the exaltation, the planet is devoid of all

> the

> > > strength - also known the state of debilitation, i.e. " neecha " .

> > > The planet becomes weak and can also cause hindrances. However, loss

> of

> > > strength is not the important point here, the loss of " dignity "

> > > is. That is why our learned gurus chose the word " neecha " for

> > > such a state, they did not use the word " ashakta " , which is the

> > > Sanskrit word for powerless

> > >

> > > the position of planet from Moon or lagna is important and is

> > > automatically implied unless stated otherwise. It would be best if

> the

> > > conditions are satisfied from both. The debility is canceled when -

> > >

> > > 1. the neecha planet is free from combustion or is retrograde and is

> > > not in any dusthana (6th, 8th or 12th), 2. the lord of the sign

> > > where this planet would get exalted is in kendra, 3. the lord of

> > > current house where the planet is debilitated and the lord of sign

> where

> > > this planet would be exalted are situated mutually in kendras, 4.

> > > the neecha planet is aspected by lord of exaltation sign of the

> planet -

> > > of course, there ought to be a good relationship between the planet

> and

> > > ruler of the sign where the planet is exalted, 5. the planet that

> > > becomes exalted in the current sign is in kendra from lagna or moon,

> > > 6. this debilitated planet is exalted in Navamsha chart.

> > >

> > > Conditions 1, 2, 5, 6 are explicitly mentioned as a rajyogas in Dr

> B.V.

> > > Raman's book " Three hundred important combinations " . Along

> > > with these, conditions 3 and 4 are additionally called as rajyogas

> by

> > > J.N. Bhasin.

> > >

> > > To illustrate the point, consider a horoscope where Saturn is in

> Aries

> > > and hence debilitated. As per the rules, Saturn's debilitation would

> > > be canceled when -

> > >

> > > 1. Saturn is in any house except 6th, 8th or 12th - e.g. this would

> > > happen for Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn lagna or rashi.

> However,

> > > this condition may not be true all the time and must be looked at in

> > > conjunction with other conditions as well. Per Dr. B.V. Raman, a

> > > retrograde Saturn, debilitated in 10th house can damage a person's

> > > career beyond repair, unless there is some benefic aspect on 10th

> house.

> > > Saturn's favourable placement in other divisional chart would also

> > > help in mitigating the effects. 2. Saturn gets exaltation in Libra,

> > > which is the sign ruled by Venus. According to rule number 2,

> > > Saturn's exaltation gets canceled when Venus is in kendra. 3.

> > > Saturn is debilitated in Aries, which is rules by Mars. Thus,

> > > Saturn's exaltation would be canceled if Mars and Venus are in

> > > mutual kendras. 4. Saturn's debilitation would be canceled if

> > > Venus aspects it. 5. Aries is the exaltation sign of Sun. If Sun is

> > > in kendra, Saturn's debilitation is canceled. This is not considered

> > > to be a one of the conditions causing neechabhanga by Dr. Raman,

> > > although it is mentioned in his book. 6. If Saturn is in Libra in

> > > Navamsha chart, its debilitation stands canceled.

> > >

> > > In the context of debilitation of planets, other yogas that are

> worth

> > > mentioning are -

> > >

> > > 1. (a) When ruler of lagna is in moveable sign, (b) the lagna itself

> > > is a movable sign and © if the lord of Navamsha occupied by a

> > > debilitated planet is in a kendra or trikona, this Navamsha lord is

> > > capable of giving a rajyoga. 2. Mutual aspect between lagna lord and

> > > a debilitated planet with Rahu and Saturn in 10th, aspected by

> benefic

> > > 9th lord, gives rajyoga. This effect would be seen in the dasha and

> > > antardasha periods of this debilitated planet.

> > >

> > > Does mere cancellation of debility mean that the planet has become a

> > > rajyoga karaka? It is a matter of debate. Condition 1, which states

> that

> > > the planet just needs to be away from Sun and not situated in 3 out

> of

> > > 12 houses in a horoscope would apply to a majority of charts. This

> would

> > > mean that the debilitation would cancel for little less than 75% of

> all

> > > individuals. In my humble opinion, this condition is too generic to

> > > cause rajyoga.

> > >

> > > A NeechaBhanga Rajyoga should be caused only when such a planet

> getting

> > > the neechabhanga is situated in a kendra and is strong in Navamsha

> as

> > > well. It should also simultaneously be a lord of houses 1st, 4th,

> 5th,

> > > 7th, 9th and 10th and not the rest of the houses in the chart.

> > >

> > > The opinion on ownership of kendra and trine houses is based on a

> simple

> > > reasoning - a planet becomes a yoga karaka by by the virtue of

> lordship

> > > of certain houses and not by its position in horoscope, e.g. Saturn

> is a

> > > rajyoga karaka for Libra lagna by becoming ruler of houses 4 and 5,

> and

> > > for Taurus by being the ruler of houses 9 and 10. Unlike a planet

> which

> > > is exalted, a planet getting Neechabhanga would still be naturally

> > > inclined to do harm when it is lord of dusthanas - just like other

> > > planets in the chart.

> > >

> > > Neechabhanga is cancellation of debility, it is not exaltation.

> > >

> >

>