Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Dear Group, I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and cleverest mind, laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, shy and straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share one incident - Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have affection for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, becoming like Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible date, explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried to show he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he posted my pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group and humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when doing my PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other business factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc for 30 USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD Millions, they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now no more a Shankaracharya. Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed 1250/- to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, the other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of larsen vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat yoga........ You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person will ask a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they will jump into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have done a great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a language full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides one's fate and life. Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, for a normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 (Trismansa). All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna or Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is promised by Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional charts. This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is impression building game. Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has enough knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond the limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I cant say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes these people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded people whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and in every 2 months. I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional charts, so that our members can understand at least what chart is used for what. If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and our gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, Sunil Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and Rup Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like light, it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's blessing, It's divine. regards, Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Dear Lalit ji, Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the following is about me - ==> Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has enough knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond the limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I cant say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. <== But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - keep up your rebellious sprit. A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in your group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our hands let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something from someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life is like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in the post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject discussion with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put in creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and keep quite. Love, Sreenadh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Group, > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and cleverest mind, > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, shy and > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share one > incident - > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have affection > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, becoming like > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible date, > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried to show > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he posted my > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group and > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when doing my > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other business > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc for 30 > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD Millions, > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now no more > a Shankaracharya. > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed 1250/- > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, the > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of larsen > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > yoga........ > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person will ask > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they will jump > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have done a > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a language > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides one's > fate and life. > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, for a > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > (Trismansa). > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna or > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is promised by > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional charts. > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is impression > building game. > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has enough > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond the > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I cant > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes these > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded people > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and in > every 2 months. > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional charts, so > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for what. > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and our > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, Sunil > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and Rup > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like light, > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's blessing, It's > divine. > > > regards, > Lalit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Dear Sir, It was not for you. I can say it. It was for S*N**. I think so. Lalit is very nice person and a few person know him well. Only the negative quality he has, he is too imotional. sushil dikshit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji, > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > following is about me - > ==> > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has enough > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond the > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > cant > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > <== > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - keep > up your rebellious sprit. > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in your > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our hands > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something from > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life is > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in the > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject discussion > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put in > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and keep > quite. > Love, > Sreenadh > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and cleverest > mind, > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, shy > and > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > one > > incident - > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > affection > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, becoming > like > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > date, > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried to > show > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he posted > my > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > and > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > doing my > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > business > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > for 30 > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > Millions, > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now no > more > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > 1250/- > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, the > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > larsen > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > yoga........ > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person will > ask > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they will > jump > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have done a > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > language > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > one's > > fate and life. > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, for > a > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > (Trismansa). > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna or > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is promised > by > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > charts. > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is impression > > building game. > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > enough > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > the > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > cant > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes these > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > people > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and in > > every 2 months. > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional charts, > so > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > what. > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > our > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > Sunil > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and Rup > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > light, > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's blessing, > It's > > divine. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Dear Srinadh, Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no boundaries are existing among 3 groups - Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji, > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > following is about me - > ==> > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has enough > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond the > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > cant > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > <== > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - keep > up your rebellious sprit. > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in your > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our hands > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something from > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life is > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in the > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject discussion > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put in > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and keep > quite. > Love, > Sreenadh > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and cleverest > mind, > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, shy > and > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > one > > incident - > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > affection > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, becoming > like > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > date, > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried to > show > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he posted > my > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > and > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > doing my > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > business > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > for 30 > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > Millions, > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now no > more > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > 1250/- > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, the > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > larsen > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > yoga........ > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person will > ask > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they will > jump > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have done a > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > language > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > one's > > fate and life. > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, for > a > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > (Trismansa). > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna or > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is promised > by > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > charts. > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is impression > > building game. > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > enough > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > the > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > cant > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes these > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > people > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and in > > every 2 months. > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional charts, > so > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > what. > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > our > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > Sunil > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and Rup > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > light, > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's blessing, > It's > > divine. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Dear Lalit ji, There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the that deals with indian astrology there is only a handful of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows (without any order or priority)- 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in this grp as well.) 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend) 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa) 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know I am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential) 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I am totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we meet in any forum ) 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar) 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got great potential) 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' But true - he is a good scholar) 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there in some forums including and ) 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it is true ) 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on vedic astrology groups!) 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen ) [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete some of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they find unique and acceptable] This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomes children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject and not against the individual! What you are going to do against these individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list) for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOT dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right. When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist - but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life? Second, since " the misunderstanding is removed " don't ever think that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me! lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... As you righly pointed out is a good group. How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the same opinion about as well. > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights. Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups first... lol.. ==> > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. <== Well said! Keep it up! ==> > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. <== Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of you?!!! lol.. Have a good day. Love and Hugs, Sreenadh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Srinadh, > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > i speak or write. > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > following is about me - > > ==> > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > enough > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > the > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > cant > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > <== > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > keep > > up your rebellious sprit. > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > your > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > hands > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > from > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > is > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > the > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > discussion > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > in > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > keep > > quite. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > cleverest > > mind, > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > shy > > and > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > one > > > incident - > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > affection > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > becoming > > like > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > date, > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > to > > show > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > posted > > my > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > and > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > doing my > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > business > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > for 30 > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > Millions, > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > no > > more > > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > 1250/- > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > the > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > larsen > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > yoga........ > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > will > > ask > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > will > > jump > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > done a > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > language > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > one's > > > fate and life. > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > for > > a > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > > (Trismansa). > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > or > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > promised > > by > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > charts. > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > impression > > > building game. > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > enough > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > he > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > the > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > I > > cant > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > these > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > people > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > in > > > every 2 months. > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > charts, > > so > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > what. > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > our > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > Sunil > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > Rup > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > light, > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > blessing, > > It's > > > divine. > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Dear Srinadh, I thought by spaking to me, u r free from " Mine and Thine " but now, i think, u will take some time, Chandrashekhar Ji is Guru of this group and a Guru is no way limited to any group. No bad man can do good in a divine subject like astrology, read what Sunil Ji has posted to predict u need to have some qualities, I have met Arjun Pandit and all, He and people like him are master in making a normal thing a big secret.perhapse u r mesmarized by secret nature of things. If u r with Dakschhinamurthy and Arjun or seeing potential in them, I cant be there in ur list of friends, I dont see potential in frauds and cheats, See, astrology is a practical subject, If he has some knowledge, he w'd have judged me, he w'd have known that i w'd cut him in piece, Why being an Astrologer couldn't judge what is going to happen. Tell Krishnan Kaul ji to meet me or join this group, I will deal with him. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji, > There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the > that deals with indian astrology there is only a handful > of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows > (without any order or priority)- > 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in > this grp as well.) > 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend) > 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa) > 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know I > am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential) > 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I am > totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we > meet in any forum ) > 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar) > 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many > things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got great > potential) > 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' > But true - he is a good scholar) > 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there in > some forums including and ) > 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it > is true ) > 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on > vedic astrology groups!) > 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen ) > > [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete some > of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they > find unique and acceptable] > This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this > list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and > inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The > unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and > similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for > their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their > own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomes > children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject > and not against the individual! What you are going to do against these > individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list) > for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOT > dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right. > When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist - > but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can > have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own > right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life? > Second, since " the misunderstanding is removed " don't ever think > that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me! > lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to > score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let > us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good > friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... > As you righly pointed out is a good group. > How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too > is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the same > opinion about as well. > > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights. > Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups > first... lol.. > ==> > > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. > <== > Well said! Keep it up! > ==> > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > <== > Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now > the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of > you?!!! lol.. > > Have a good day. > Love and Hugs, > Sreenadh > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Srinadh, > > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > > i speak or write. > > > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > > following is about me - > > > ==> > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > enough > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > the > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > > cant > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > <== > > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > > keep > > > up your rebellious sprit. > > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > > your > > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > > hands > > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > > from > > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > > is > > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > > the > > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > > discussion > > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > > in > > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > > keep > > > quite. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > > cleverest > > > mind, > > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > > shy > > > and > > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > > one > > > > incident - > > > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > > affection > > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > > becoming > > > like > > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > > date, > > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > > to > > > show > > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > > posted > > > my > > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > > and > > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > > doing my > > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > > business > > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > > for 30 > > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > > Millions, > > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > > no > > > more > > > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > > 1250/- > > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > > the > > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > > larsen > > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > > yoga........ > > > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > > will > > > ask > > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > > will > > > jump > > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > > done a > > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > > language > > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > > one's > > > > fate and life. > > > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > > for > > > a > > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > > > (Trismansa). > > > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > > or > > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > > promised > > > by > > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > > charts. > > > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > > impression > > > > building game. > > > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > enough > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > > he > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > the > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > > I > > > cant > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > > these > > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > > people > > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > > in > > > > every 2 months. > > > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > > charts, > > > so > > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > > what. > > > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > > our > > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > > Sunil > > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > > Rup > > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > > light, > > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > > blessing, > > > It's > > > > divine. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hello Dear Lalit, Probably,as I remember once you told us about a rift between you and Sushil ji,then he met you at some railway station,now you are best friends. So,when Sreenadh ji,has moved one step forward,its my request to you,please move two steps towards him and hug him fast,life is..........too short my friend...!!! Band muthi sawa lakh khi....khulli too...........? Regds-javedSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Lalit ji,There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the that deals with indian astrology there is only a handfulof individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows(without any order or priority)-1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting inthis grp as well.)2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend)3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa)4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know Iam against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential)5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I amtotally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if wemeet in any forum )7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar)8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to manythings. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got greatpotential)9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' :)But true - he is a good scholar)10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there insome forums including and )11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case itis true )12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on vedic astrology groups!)13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen )[Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete someof them from the above list - and add some other names, which theyfind unique and acceptable]This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend thislist once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active andinactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! Theunique thing to be understood about the members listed here andsimilar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other fortheir existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of theirown. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomeschildren's play! All the fights become just a game over the subjectand not against the individual! What you are going to do against theseindividuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list)for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOTdependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right.When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist -but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we canhave for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their ownright gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life?Second, since "the misunderstanding is removed" don't ever thinkthat you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me!lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready toscore! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..letus start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my goodfriends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... ;)As you righly pointed out is a good group.How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That toois one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the sameopinion about as well. > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights.Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groupsfirst... lol..==>> I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write.<==Well said! Keep it up! ==>> Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me.<==Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Nowthe doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend ofyou?!!! lol..Have a good day.Love and Hugs,Sreenadh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"<mishra.lalit wrote:>> Dear Srinadh,> > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me.> > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > i speak or write.> > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights.> > regards,> Lalit.> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Sreenadh" > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit ji,> > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > following is about me -> > ==>> > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > enough> > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he> > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > the> > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > cant> > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student.> > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed.> > <==> > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > keep > > up your rebellious sprit. > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > your > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > hands > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > from > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > is > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > the > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > discussion > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > in > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > keep > > quite. > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > cleverest > > mind, > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > shy > > and > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > one > > > incident - > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > affection > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > becoming > > like > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > date, > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > to > > show > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > posted > > my > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > and > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > doing my > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > business > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > for 30 > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > Millions, > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd.> > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > no > > more > > > a Shankaracharya.> > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > 1250/- > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > the > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > larsen > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > yoga........> > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > will > > ask > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > will > > jump > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > done a > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > language > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > one's > > > fate and life. > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > for > > a > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30> > > (Trismansa).> > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > or > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > promised > > by > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > charts.> > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > impression > > > building game.> > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > enough > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > he > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > the > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > I > > cant > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student.> > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed.> > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > these > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ?> > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....?> > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > people > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > in > > > every 2 months.> > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain.> > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > charts, > > so > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > what.> > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > our > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > Sunil > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer.> > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > Rup > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > light, > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > blessing, > > It's > > > divine.> > > > > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Dear Lalit ji, ==> > If u r with Dakschhinamurthy and Arjun or seeing potential in them, > I cant be there in ur list of friends, <== It was not a list of friends but rather a list of potentials - friends or foes - potentials are potentials. ==> > I dont see potential in frauds and cheats, See, astrology is a > practical subject,.......... <== Yah, that is why I told that everyone will have their own unique opinion, and they will add or remove someone from that list - but everyone will have such a mental list about the handful of individuals (with potential) in all the for sure. Essentially your list of potentials differs with mine - that is all to it. So be happy your view is unique and and so as mine. By the way - without 'Me' and 'You' we can not love each other. If I cannot love myself, how can I love others? If there is no love in me - how can I share it with others? So in a way a bit of selfishness is a pre-requisite for true love. Anyone who ever loved know this truth. ==> > Tell Krishnan Kaul ji to meet me or join this group, I will deal > with him. <== Lol...don't be that confident.. He may cut you into pieces.. Love, Sreenadh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Srinadh, > > I thought by spaking to me, u r free from " Mine and Thine " but now, i > think, u will take some time, Chandrashekhar Ji is Guru of this group > and a Guru is no way limited to any group. > > No bad man can do good in a divine subject like astrology, read what > Sunil Ji has posted to predict u need to have some qualities, I have > met Arjun Pandit and all, He and people like him are master in making > a normal thing a big secret.perhapse u r mesmarized by secret nature > of things. > > If u r with Dakschhinamurthy and Arjun or seeing potential in them, I > cant be there in ur list of friends, I dont see potential in frauds > and cheats, See, astrology is a practical subject, If he has some > knowledge, he w'd have judged me, he w'd have known that i w'd cut > him in piece, Why being an Astrologer couldn't judge what is going to > happen. > > > Tell Krishnan Kaul ji to meet me or join this group, I will deal with > him. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the > > that deals with indian astrology there is only a > handful > > of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows > > (without any order or priority)- > > 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in > > this grp as well.) > > 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend) > > 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa) > > 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know > I > > am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential) > > 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I > am > > totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we > > meet in any forum ) > > 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar) > > 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many > > things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got > great > > potential) > > 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' > > But true - he is a good scholar) > > 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there > in > > some forums including and ) > > 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it > > is true ) > > 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on > > vedic astrology groups!) > > 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen ) > > > > [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete > some > > of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they > > find unique and acceptable] > > This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this > > list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and > > inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The > > unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and > > similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for > > their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their > > own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights > becomes > > children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject > > and not against the individual! What you are going to do against > these > > individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above > list) > > for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are > NOT > > dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own > right. > > When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist - > > but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can > > have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own > > right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life? > > Second, since " the misunderstanding is removed " don't ever think > > that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from > me! > > lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to > > score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let > > us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good > > friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... > > As you righly pointed out is a good group. > > How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too > > is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the > same > > opinion about as well. > > > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights. > > Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups > > first... lol.. > > ==> > > > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > > > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. > > <== > > Well said! Keep it up! > > ==> > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > <== > > Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now > > the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of > > you?!!! lol.. > > > > Have a good day. > > Love and Hugs, > > Sreenadh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Srinadh, > > > > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > > > > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > > > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for > what > > > i speak or write. > > > > > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > > > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > > > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > > > > > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > > > following is about me - > > > > ==> > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > enough > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > he > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule > beyond > > > the > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling > languange, I > > > > cant > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > <== > > > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > > > > keep > > > > up your rebellious sprit. > > > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > > > your > > > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, > and > > > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > > > hands > > > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > > > from > > > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. > Life > > > is > > > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made > in > > > the > > > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > > > discussion > > > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature > (I > > > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look > back > > > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There > is a > > > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort > put > > > in > > > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > > > keep > > > > quite. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > > > cleverest > > > > mind, > > > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost > caring, > > > shy > > > > and > > > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd > share > > > > one > > > > > incident - > > > > > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > > > affection > > > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > > > becoming > > > > like > > > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the > possible > > > > date, > > > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he > tried > > > to > > > > show > > > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > > > posted > > > > my > > > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi > type > > > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a > group > > > > and > > > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I > when > > > > doing my > > > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among > other > > > > business > > > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect > inc > > > > for 30 > > > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > > > Millions, > > > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the > crowd. > > > > > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is > now > > > no > > > > more > > > > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I > payed > > > > 1250/- > > > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed > strongly, > > > the > > > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple > of > > > > larsen > > > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a > kapat > > > > > yoga........ > > > > > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > > > will > > > > ask > > > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > > > will > > > > jump > > > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > > > done a > > > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > > > language > > > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who > decides > > > > one's > > > > > fate and life. > > > > > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect > indicates, > > > for > > > > a > > > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > > > > (Trismansa). > > > > > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by > Lagna > > > or > > > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > > > promised > > > > by > > > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by > divisional > > > > charts. > > > > > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > > > impression > > > > > building game. > > > > > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , > has > > > > enough > > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and > when > > > he > > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule > beyond > > > > the > > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling > languange, > > > I > > > > cant > > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > > > these > > > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely > insult > > > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few > branded > > > > people > > > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups > and > > > in > > > > > every 2 months. > > > > > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > > > charts, > > > > so > > > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used > for > > > > what. > > > > > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada > and > > > > our > > > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan > Sir, > > > > Sunil > > > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true > astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji > and > > > Rup > > > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is > like > > > > light, > > > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > > > blessing, > > > > It's > > > > > divine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Beutifully said!!! Love and Hugs to my dear javed ji, Sreenadh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , javed khaanzada <javed_khaanzada wrote: > > Hello Dear Lalit, > > Probably,as I remember once you told us about a rift between you and Sushil ji,then he met you at some railway station,now you are best friends. > > So,when Sreenadh ji,has moved one step forward,its my request to you,please move two steps towards him and hug him fast,life is..........too short my friend...!!! > > Band muthi sawa lakh khi....khulli too...........? > > Regds-javed > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Lalit ji, > There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the > that deals with indian astrology there is only a handful > of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows > (without any order or priority)- > 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in > this grp as well.) > 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend) > 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa) > 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know I > am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential) > 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I am > totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we > meet in any forum ) > 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar) > 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many > things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got great > potential) > 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' > But true - he is a good scholar) > 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there in > some forums including and ) > 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it > is true ) > 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on > vedic astrology groups!) > 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen ) > > [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete some > of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they > find unique and acceptable] > This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this > list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and > inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The > unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and > similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for > their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their > own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomes > children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject > and not against the individual! What you are going to do against these > individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list) > for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOT > dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right. > When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist - > but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can > have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own > right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life? > Second, since " the misunderstanding is removed " don't ever think > that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me! > lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to > score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let > us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good > friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... > As you righly pointed out is a good group. > How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too > is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the same > opinion about as well. > > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights. > Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups > first... lol.. > ==> > > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. > <== > Well said! Keep it up! > ==> > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > <== > Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now > the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of > you?!!! lol.. > > Have a good day. > Love and Hugs, > Sreenadh > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Srinadh, > > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > > i speak or write. > > > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > > following is about me - > > > ==> > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > enough > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > the > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > > cant > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > <== > > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > > keep > > > up your rebellious sprit. > > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > > your > > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > > hands > > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > > from > > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > > is > > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > > the > > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > > discussion > > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > > in > > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > > keep > > > quite. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > > cleverest > > > mind, > > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > > shy > > > and > > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > > one > > > > incident - > > > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > > affection > > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > > becoming > > > like > > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > > date, > > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > > to > > > show > > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > > posted > > > my > > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > > and > > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > > doing my > > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > > business > > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > > for 30 > > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > > Millions, > > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > > no > > > more > > > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > > 1250/- > > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > > the > > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > > larsen > > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > > yoga........ > > > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > > will > > > ask > > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > > will > > > jump > > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > > done a > > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > > language > > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > > one's > > > > fate and life. > > > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > > for > > > a > > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30 > > > > (Trismansa). > > > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > > or > > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > > promised > > > by > > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > > charts. > > > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > > impression > > > > building game. > > > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > enough > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > > he > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > the > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > > I > > > cant > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > > these > > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > > people > > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > > in > > > > every 2 months. > > > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > > charts, > > > so > > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > > what. > > > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > > our > > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > > Sunil > > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > > Rup > > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > > light, > > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > > blessing, > > > It's > > > > divine. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Following and Implementing the nice wish made by Javed Shab. We both are meeting next week, i m also rejoining Srinadh's group. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Beutifully said!!! > Love and Hugs to my dear javed ji, > Sreenadh > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , javed khaanzada > <javed_khaanzada@> wrote: > > > > Hello Dear Lalit, > > > > Probably,as I remember once you told us about a rift between you > and Sushil ji,then he met you at some railway station,now you are best > friends. > > > > So,when Sreenadh ji,has moved one step forward,its my request to > you,please move two steps towards him and hug him fast,life > is..........too short my friend...!!! > > > > Band muthi sawa lakh khi....khulli too...........? > > > > Regds-javed > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji, > > There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the > > that deals with indian astrology there is only a handful > > of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows > > (without any order or priority)- > > 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in > > this grp as well.) > > 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend) > > 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa) > > 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know I > > am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential) > > 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I am > > totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we > > meet in any forum ) > > 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar) > > 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many > > things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got great > > potential) > > 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' > > But true - he is a good scholar) > > 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there in > > some forums including and ) > > 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it > > is true ) > > 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on > > vedic astrology groups!) > > 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen ) > > > > [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete some > > of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they > > find unique and acceptable] > > This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this > > list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and > > inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The > > unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and > > similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for > > their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their > > own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomes > > children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject > > and not against the individual! What you are going to do against these > > individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list) > > for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOT > > dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right. > > When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist - > > but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can > > have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own > > right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life? > > Second, since " the misunderstanding is removed " don't ever think > > that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me! > > lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to > > score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let > > us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good > > friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... > > As you righly pointed out is a good group. > > How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too > > is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the same > > opinion about as well. > > > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights. > > Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups > > first... lol.. > > ==> > > > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > > > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write. > > <== > > Well said! Keep it up! > > ==> > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > <== > > Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now > > the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of > > you?!!! lol.. > > > > Have a good day. > > Love and Hugs, > > Sreenadh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Srinadh, > > > > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me. > > > > > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > > > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > > > i speak or write. > > > > > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > > > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > > > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > > > > > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, > > > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > > > following is about me - > > > > ==> > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > enough > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > the > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > > > cant > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > <== > > > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > > > keep > > > > up your rebellious sprit. > > > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > > > your > > > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > > > hands > > > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > > > from > > > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > > > is > > > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > > > the > > > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > > > discussion > > > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > > > in > > > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > > > keep > > > > quite. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > > > cleverest > > > > mind, > > > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > > > shy > > > > and > > > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > > > one > > > > > incident - > > > > > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > > > affection > > > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > > > becoming > > > > like > > > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > > > date, > > > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > > > to > > > > show > > > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > > > posted > > > > my > > > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > > > and > > > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > > > doing my > > > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > > > business > > > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > > > for 30 > > > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > > > Millions, > > > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd. > > > > > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > > > no > > > > more > > > > > a Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > > > 1250/- > > > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > > > the > > > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > > > larsen > > > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > > > yoga........ > > > > > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > > > will > > > > ask > > > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > > > will > > > > jump > > > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > > > done a > > > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > > > language > > > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > > > one's > > > > > fate and life. > > > > > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > > > for > > > > a > > > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D- 30 > > > > > (Trismansa). > > > > > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > > > or > > > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > > > promised > > > > by > > > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > > > charts. > > > > > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > > > impression > > > > > building game. > > > > > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > > enough > > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > > > he > > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > > the > > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > > > I > > > > cant > > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student. > > > > > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > > > these > > > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ? > > > > > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....? > > > > > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > > > people > > > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > > > in > > > > > every 2 months. > > > > > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain. > > > > > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > > > charts, > > > > so > > > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > > > what. > > > > > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > > > our > > > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > > > Sunil > > > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer. > > > > > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > > > Rup > > > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > > > light, > > > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > > > blessing, > > > > It's > > > > > divine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hello Lalit and Sreenadh ji, Hope this phase of your friendship,will never ending. Regds-javedlitsol <mishra.lalit wrote: Following and Implementing the nice wish made by Javed Shab.We both are meeting next week, i m also rejoining Srinadh's group.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Beutifully said!!!> Love and Hugs to my dear javed ji,> Sreenadh> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , javed khaanzada> <javed_khaanzada@> wrote:> >> > Hello Dear Lalit,> > > > Probably,as I remember once you told us about a rift between you> and Sushil ji,then he met you at some railway station,now you are best> friends.> > > > So,when Sreenadh ji,has moved one step forward,its my request to> you,please move two steps towards him and hug him fast,life> is..........too short my friend...!!!> > > > Band muthi sawa lakh khi....khulli too...........?> > > > Regds-javed> > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > Dear Lalit ji,> > There are some important things to be understood. First, In all the> > that deals with indian astrology there is only a handful> > of individual with real potentioal. My list would be as follows> > (without any order or priority)-> > 1. Chandrashekhar ji (The power behind Jyotish Group, posting in> > this grp as well.)> > 2. Sunil ji (Your and my friend)> > 3. Chandrahari (The scholar who proposed True Ayanamsa)> > 4. PVR (The brain behind JHora and many other things. As you know I> > am against many of his theories. But true - he is a great potential)> > 5. Sanjay Rath (Yah, he too has real potential. But as you know I am> > totally against his instant theoris - and instent clash sure if we> > meet in any forum )> > 7. Rup Krishnan Ji (A real scholar)> > 8. Dakshinamoorti ji (Yah, I know you don't like him - due to many> > things. But it should accepted that he is a scholar, and has got great> > potential)> > 9. Pandit Arjun ji (I know, You called him 'Rudraksha Marchent' > > But true - he is a good scholar)> > 10. Sreeram Srinivas ji (You will find his posting here and there in> > some forums including and )> > 11. Me (I think a bit of boasting would be pardonable - in case it> > is true )> > 12. Krishnan Kaul ji (The strongest opponent of astrology on > > vedic astrology groups!)> > 13. Now You (A new potential - appeared on the seen )> > > > [Note: Others will have their own list. Someone else may delete some> > of them from the above list - and add some other names, which they> > find unique and acceptable]> > This list may go on - but it would be much difficult to amend this> > list once we reach 20 or 30. Out of the whole 40,000 active and> > inactive members in all the groups, this is what we have! The> > unique thing to be understood about the members listed here and> > similar ones is that - They don't need the support of each other for> > their existence. They have their unique knowledge and aura of their> > own. Understand this as a fact - then all the so called fights becomes> > children's play! All the fights become just a game over the subject> > and not against the individual! What you are going to do against these> > individuals! - They simply don't need us (or others in the above list)> > for their existence, or to maintain their knowledgebase! They are NOT> > dependent on anyone else! They are where they are at their own right.> > When this is understood - ego ceases - teasing of egos may exist -> > but that has nothing to do with the real respect - what else we can> > have for individuals who exists and presents themselves at their own> > right gained through their knowledge and lessons learned from life?> > Second, since "the misunderstanding is removed" don't ever think> > that you will receive even the politeness receiving till not from me!> > lol............ Now I have power of friendship and I am ready to> > score! Come on.... you.... Do you have a doubt...spit it out..let> > us start fighting....! (I do it always with RK ji - one of my good> > friends) So the point is - you are at loss by revealing... > > As you righly pointed out is a good group.> > How you forgot to add indian_vedic_astrology in this group? That too> > is one of the very good groups. You may favor or not, I have the same> > opinion about as well. > > > together, we 3, will promote astrology to new heights.> > Yah, we can try. But may be we should see the chart of these groups> > first... lol..> > ==>> > > I speak from the core of heart and never foget any promise done, > > > I always keep responsibility for what i speak or write.> > <==> > Well said! Keep it up! > > ==>> > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me.> > <==> > Yah, I doubted earlier itself that he too is of that category! Now> > the doubt confirmed - otherwise how could he become a friend of> > you?!!! lol..> > > > Have a good day.> > Love and Hugs,> > Sreenadh > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Srinadh,> > > > > > Firstly, you judged me correctly, I m somewhat rebellious, It was > > > the Rup Sir, who discovered this rebellious man in me.> > > > > > The next significant thing is, I speak from the core of heart and > > > never foget any promise done, I always keep responsibility for what > > > i speak or write.> > > > > > Yea, It was you, mentioned in the post, After Speaking to You, I > > > think the misunderstanding is removed and I m sure there is no > > > boundaries are existing among 3 groups - > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing, and > > > > > > > > > togather, we 3, will promote astrology to new hrights.> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Sreenadh" > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Lalit ji,> > > > Good Mail... Well written - I enjoyed it. I know that the > > > > following is about me -> > > > ==>> > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > enough> > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when he> > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > the> > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, I > > > > cant> > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student.> > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed.> > > > <==> > > > But the point you missed is that - you felt that individual is > > > > egoistic; but there is a chance that it may not be so. Good - > > > keep > > > > up your rebellious sprit. > > > > A suggestion to my rebellious dear friend: In groups (even in > > > your > > > > group) don't 'expect' things from some one - people are free, and > > > > they are free to respond or opt not to respond - groups are > > > > discussion places of free men. All these things are not in our > > > hands > > > > let them be free, and let us be free. Don't 'expect' something > > > from > > > > someone and don't 'accept' something that you don't like. Life > > > is > > > > like that. Please don't take things on your self (on things > > > > like `spoonfeed') the response are against the statement made in > > > the > > > > post and NOT against the individual. Don't mix-up subject > > > discussion > > > > with personal relations – that is a wrong approach – be mature (I > > > > know even this statement you may wrongly interpret – but look back > > > > and ask – Why you are feeling insulted for no reason?). There is a > > > > lot of potential in you - use it constructively (as the effort put > > > in > > > > creating and maintaining this group) - and enjoy! > > > > Note 2: If you don't like even this mail, i will hold back and > > > keep > > > > quite. > > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Group,> > > > > > > > > > I m a best friend , worst enemy with innocent heart and > > > cleverest > > > > mind, > > > > > laziest and careless as well as hyperactive and utmost caring, > > > shy > > > > and > > > > > straightforward, soft like and blunt to any extent, I w'd share > > > > one > > > > > incident - > > > > > > > > > > Once I thought to consult with an astrologer who doesn't have > > > > affection > > > > > for me, I paid him 1250/- for 1 qustion, he was an icon, > > > becoming > > > > like > > > > > Osho, what he did is, took money and didnt predict the possible > > > > date, > > > > > explained bla bla bla ..., when i pinpointed my query, he tried > > > to > > > > show > > > > > he is VVIP, even he didnt give me his phone no and then he > > > posted > > > > my > > > > > pesonal communication in a group,where all sort of pakhandi type > > > > > astrologers are playing. All pakhandi astrologers formed a group > > > > and > > > > > humilated me badly, they wanted to proove me a mad guy. I when > > > > doing my > > > > > PHD in computer science and did a research for telelogic Inc. > > > > > (www.telelogic.com) on the basis of this research (among other > > > > business > > > > > factores) firstly telelogic did buy SA - Software Artchitect inc > > > > for 30 > > > > > USD Millions then IBM purchased telelogic itself for 845 USD > > > > Millions, > > > > > they egoist astrologers wanted me to proove mad before the crowd.> > > > > > > > > > Any way, the scene turned upside down. Dakschhinamurthy is now > > > no > > > > more > > > > > a Shankaracharya.> > > > > > > > > > Another astrologer Rafel said i m forming a kapat Yoga, I payed > > > > 1250/- > > > > > to an astrologer, he humilated me and when I opposed strongly, > > > the > > > > > other astrologers including Rafel from poland, the desciple of > > > > larsen > > > > > vrishti, who is desciple of Sanjay Ratha, said i m doing a kapat > > > > > yoga........> > > > > > > > > > You know what sort of prediction they do, one innocent person > > > will > > > > ask > > > > > a query, instead of analyzing his native (lagna) chart, they > > > will > > > > jump > > > > > into rarely known Divisional chart, will show like they have > > > done a > > > > > great discovery for the person asking the query, will use a > > > > language > > > > > full of determinating words, like they are the one who decides > > > > one's > > > > > fate and life. > > > > > > > > > > Rafel will say for education etc - D24's this aspect indicates, > > > for > > > > a > > > > > normal problem in life he w'd refer to D60 (Shastiamsa)or D-30> > > > > (Trismansa).> > > > > > > > > > All is game of making impression. What is not promised by Lagna > > > or > > > > > Native chart, never be given by divisional charts, what is > > > promised > > > > by > > > > > Lagna charts can be further modified or filtered by divisional > > > > charts.> > > > > > > > > > This basic principal is never discussed by them. All is > > > impression > > > > > building game.> > > > > > > > > > Another Guy who has hundreds of the book and runs a group , has > > > > enough > > > > > knowledge as well, he invited me to his group, I went and when > > > he > > > > > discussed something, I asked him to not to stretch a rule beyond > > > > the > > > > > limit, He replied to me in such a insulting belitling languange, > > > I > > > > cant > > > > > say, I never use such languiage to even a nursery student.> > > > > > > > > > I shown my doubt and he said, he will not spoonfeed.> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i think, what is fault in Astrology, why it makes > > > these > > > > > people so much narrow minded, so arrogant so much egoistic ?> > > > > > > > > > Why astrologers are so much frustrated ? One will surely insult > > > > > another, Why they are so jealous ? so mean ? so cunning .....?> > > > > > > > > > but cunningness is not with astrologers, there are few branded > > > > people > > > > > whose best cleverness is to ask same free query in 25 groups and > > > in > > > > > every 2 months.> > > > > > > > > > I think, what we get by such tactis.... what is our gain.> > > > > > > > > > This was the reason to post all 19 - 20 types of divisional > > > charts, > > > > so > > > > > that our members can understand at least what chart is used for > > > > what.> > > > > > > > > > If i m transgressing my limits, I beg apology to maa sharada and > > > > our > > > > > gurus like Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Sir, Sridhar Govindan Sir, > > > > Sunil > > > > > Naiar ji, Sushil Dixit ji and to every elder and true astrologer.> > > > > > > > > > I w'd also highlight that our guides like Chandrashekhar ji and > > > Rup > > > > > Sir, Sridhar Sir etc. always said knowledge of astrology is like > > > > light, > > > > > it should not be hidden, it should be shared, It's God's > > > blessing, > > > > It's > > > > > divine.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> http://uk.messenger.> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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