Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dear Sri Balaji, Namasthe.Thanks for the kind words.I've been taught by the Professor that whenever, there is such an affliction, such as the present one,-from a FM planet- rather than the general significations becoming infused into the afflicted Hs, "it is the afflictions which will have the first say"[Prof.V.K.Choudhry]. If Remedial Measures are adopted on a daily basis, for a prolonged period of time, then the general signification of Ju, as a grace giving spiritual planet, might flow into the IVH, XH, VIIIH and the XIIH. Unfortunately Ju is not a Mokshakaraka[like the VIIIH Lord or the XIIH Lord], so again, it will be the affliction from the VIH Lord, which will be to the fore, by default. Best Wishes S.Bhagavadpada - balaji balasubramaniam SAMVA Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:12 PM Re: Swami's chart - SA analysis Dear Sri Sankara Bhagavadpada,Namasthe. Thank you very much for the excellent SAanalysis provided by you for swamy's chart.I have a doubt. In his chart, the 6L jupiter isafflicting all the moksha houses(4,8 & 12). In suchcase,will it hinder the spiritual progress of a person(Despite of the fact that, the afflicting planet is aspiritual planet as Jupiter)?Thanking you in advance for your valuable time. Best RegardsBalaji --- SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA<sankara (AT) hinduworldastrology (DOT) net> wrote:> Dear Sri Munidasji, respected ,> Sri Chadhaji and List Members, > > Namasthe. Thanks for the discussion on the TSE> around the Swami in Trinidad. Chadhaji has used the> rectified TOB of 11:15 PM, whereas using the website> TOB of around midnight on 5th Oct, I've been able to> get marvellous insights into the TSE, through the> SA. I am sending this SA analysis in the sequel.> Have I missed something important?> > Best regards,> > S. Bhagavadpada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tr chart: May 20th , Late night, 2007. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments on TSE - Swami in Trinidad, 20th May, 07.> > If we go by the TOB given in the Swami's website,> rather than by the rectified time given by Chadhaji,> we get very good SA insights into the raison d'etre> for such a malefic TSE.> > 'Necessary Conditions' in the natal chart:> > 1. In the natal chart of the Swami [see above], we> see the Asdt lord, the Mo, suffering an exact> affliction from the MMP, Sa, that too in the sign> Pisces, where all afflictions are intensified & > magnified. Pisces is also 'behind the scenes' sign> and thus we see, a necessary condition, already> present in the natal chart and thereby making room> for both dishonour & disgrace, as well as lust> driven activities, at some later stage in life.> > 2. Ve, the planet of sensuality and ruling the IVH> of emotion in the natal chart, is placed in the VH> of 'love in expression', but in the dreaded sign> Scorpio and therein suffering a close affliction> from the violent planet Ke which is known to act> suddenly. This is another 'necessary condition' for> the rape TSE. > > 3. One of the compelling reasons for leaving the> spheres of 'Artha & Kama' and moving into the> spiritual sphere of 'Dharma' [spiritual life] lies> in afflictions to the family Hs, namely the IV & the> II. Here the FM Ju, afflicts the IVH, VIIIH, XH as> well as the XIIH. All these Hs are marriage Hs,> except the XH. The IVH lord Ve is also likewise> afflicted. Another compelling reason for> renunciation is the close aspect of Ke from the IXH> to the Asdt & the VH. > > 4. The close affliction to the Su from the MMP Sa> and that too in the dreaded sign Virgo [in which all> afflictions are intensified & magnified, creates> another 'necessary condition' for the reputation to> be tarnished in the life to come.> > 5. The Asdt lord, the Mo suffers an affliction> from Ra in D-9, in its condition of deb therein, in> the sign Scorpio. Another 'necessary condition', for> 'love in expression' going wrong, on account of the> Rahuvian influence in Scorpio.> > > > With so many 'necessary conditions' in the natal> chart, it should not be surprising that such a> malefic TSE like the rape came to pass on May 20th.> On this day, there were other TSEs, 'coming into> synchronous play' and cashing in on the above> 'necessary conditions'; in their clinching role> as'sufficient conditions' and thereby serving to> bring to fructification, the ugly event, whose seeds> were already present in the natal chart, in the> dormant form of the 'necessary conditions'.> > > > 'Sufficient Conditions' on May 20th: > > 1. Ra-Mo sub-period was running - not a good> augury at all considering the MMP's affliction to> the Mo in the natal chart, compounded by Ra's> affliction to the deb Mo in D-9.> > 2. Tr Ve, the 'female planet' was moving through> the XIIH, coming into exact mutual aspect with the> 'male planet' of passion, Ma, that too in the XIIH. > Synchronously, Tr Ra, moving in the most malefic> VIIIH, threw its ray of malefic energy on Tr Ve,> thereby intensifying sensual craving. > > 3. In this position, Tr Ve succumbs to another> deadly affliction , from the MMP Sa, in the natal> chart, through its 10th aspect.> > 4. Tr Su, was just 1 deg prior to suffering an> exact affliction from natal Ra.> > 5. Tr Ju was exactly afflicting Tr Me, the planet> of initiatives in the sign Taurus, thus propelling> the initiatives with the fire energy & the wilful> energy of Ju. > > > > The above group of TSEs, served to precipitate the> ugly event, for which 'the seeds' were sown in the> natal chart itself, in the form of the 'necessary> conditions'.> > > > Summing up, we may sadly conclude, that the life> energies, represented by the planets have not been> raised to higher levels through remedial measures,> performed over a long period of time. We owe it to> for having given us such a profound> understanding into the complex happenings in man's> life.> > > > >-------------------------> > > > > - > Vyas Munidas > SAMVA > Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:14 AM> Re: - Swami 85> arrested in Trinidad - birth details> > > Dear Professor,> > Thank you. I was using the midnight between the 5> and 6th. The potential is > seen clearly through this data.> > I had the impression from the RC's email that it> was 11:15 pm on the 5th, > which does not show the affliction and such> potential isn't present by the > much stronger LO2.> > "|| this swami's website I have gathered the birth> details. DOB: Oct 5,> 1922,> ||| TOB: midnight, POB: a village near Allahabad.> From his life history I> | have> === message truncated ===________Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Searchhttp://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dear Sri Sankara Bhagavadpada, Thanks a lot for your clarification. Best Regards Balaji --- SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA <sankara wrote: > Dear Sri Balaji, > > Namasthe.Thanks for the kind words.I've been taught > by the Professor that whenever, there is such an > affliction, such as the present one,-from a FM > planet- rather than the general significations > becoming infused into the afflicted Hs, " it is the > afflictions which will have the first > say " [Prof.V.K.Choudhry]. > > If Remedial Measures are adopted on a daily basis, > for a prolonged period of time, then the general > signification of Ju, as a grace giving spiritual > planet, might flow into the IVH, XH, VIIIH and the > XIIH. > > Unfortunately Ju is not a Mokshakaraka[like the > VIIIH Lord or the XIIH Lord], so again, it will be > the affliction from the VIH Lord, which will be to > the fore, by default. > > Best Wishes > S.Bhagavadpada > - > balaji balasubramaniam > SAMVA > Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:12 PM > Re: Swami's chart - SA analysis > > > Dear Sri Sankara Bhagavadpada, > Namasthe. Thank you very much for the excellent SA > analysis provided by you for swamy's chart. > I have a doubt. In his chart, the 6L jupiter is > afflicting all the moksha houses(4,8 & 12). In > such > case,will it hinder the spiritual progress of a > person > (Despite of the fact that, the afflicting planet > is a > spiritual planet as Jupiter)? > > Thanking you in advance for your valuable time. > > Best Regards > > Balaji > > > --- SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA > <sankara wrote: > > > Dear Sri Munidasji, respected Professor > Choudhry, > > Sri Chadhaji and List Members, > > > > Namasthe. Thanks for the discussion on the TSE > > around the Swami in Trinidad. Chadhaji has used > the > > rectified TOB of 11:15 PM, whereas using the > website > > TOB of around midnight on 5th Oct, I've been > able to > > get marvellous insights into the TSE, through > the > > SA. I am sending this SA analysis in the sequel. > > Have I missed something important? > > > > Best regards, > > > > S. Bhagavadpada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tr chart: May 20th , Late night, 2007. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments on TSE - Swami in Trinidad, 20th May, > 07. > > > > If we go by the TOB given in the Swami's > website, > > rather than by the rectified time given by > Chadhaji, > > we get very good SA insights into the raison > d'etre > > for such a malefic TSE. > > > > 'Necessary Conditions' in the natal chart: > > > > 1. In the natal chart of the Swami [see above], > we > > see the Asdt lord, the Mo, suffering an exact > > affliction from the MMP, Sa, that too in the > sign > > Pisces, where all afflictions are intensified & > > magnified. Pisces is also 'behind the scenes' > sign > > and thus we see, a necessary condition, already > > present in the natal chart and thereby making > room > > for both dishonour & disgrace, as well as lust > > driven activities, at some later stage in life. > > > > 2. Ve, the planet of sensuality and ruling the > IVH > > of emotion in the natal chart, is placed in the > VH > > of 'love in expression', but in the dreaded sign > > Scorpio and therein suffering a close affliction > > from the violent planet Ke which is known to act > > suddenly. This is another 'necessary condition' > for > > the rape TSE. > > > > 3. One of the compelling reasons for leaving the > > spheres of 'Artha & Kama' and moving into the > > spiritual sphere of 'Dharma' [spiritual life] > lies > > in afflictions to the family Hs, namely the IV & > the > > II. Here the FM Ju, afflicts the IVH, VIIIH, XH > as > > well as the XIIH. All these Hs are marriage Hs, > > except the XH. The IVH lord Ve is also likewise > > afflicted. Another compelling reason for > > renunciation is the close aspect of Ke from the > IXH > > to the Asdt & the VH. > > > > 4. The close affliction to the Su from the MMP > Sa > > and that too in the dreaded sign Virgo [in which > all > > afflictions are intensified & magnified, creates > > another 'necessary condition' for the reputation > to > > be tarnished in the life to come. > > > > 5. The Asdt lord, the Mo suffers an affliction > > from Ra in D-9, in its condition of deb therein, > in > > the sign Scorpio. Another 'necessary condition', > for > > 'love in expression' going wrong, on account of > the > > Rahuvian influence in Scorpio. > > > > > > > > With so many 'necessary conditions' in the natal > > chart, it should not be surprising that such a > > malefic TSE like the rape came to pass on May > 20th. > > On this day, there were other TSEs, 'coming into > > synchronous play' and cashing in on the above > > 'necessary conditions'; in their clinching role > > as'sufficient conditions' and thereby serving to > > bring to fructification, the ugly event, whose > seeds > > were already present in the natal chart, in the > > dormant form of the 'necessary conditions'. > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv./collections/265 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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