Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Dear List, Let's further the discussion on the China chart. First up is the Sc chart. We'll first look at the natal potential and then examine a significant event, more will follow. Natal potential: Let's re-iterate the Professor's opinion, " This merits trial. The weakness of Jupiter and close affliction to Venus explains the poor status of people for quite long. Influence of Mercury on the house of income indicates success through commerce and trading. " (Earlier points on China traits) Strong and aggressive policies (6H influences) Above average incidents of natural disasters (Ve, H4 issues) Manufacturing based economy (Sa) Largest account surplus in the world, 180 Bln Largest resources for hydro power generation (4H, Mo) Largest population in the world Over one trillion USD in FX reserves (income houses) Average person lives 72 years (around 1950 it was 32 years) (1, 8, 12, Sa) Officially atheist (est 59%) (H9, Ju, tamasic influences of Sa and Ma) Average annual 9.4% GDP for the last 25 years (however, with such a large population, GDP/person is only 1/5th of the US) World's second largest R & D budget Secretive nation (Now, seen through the chart) - Close influence of income and initiatives 11H lord, Me in its MTH close to the MEP gives success in commerce and trading - LO2, Ju in old age explains the poor status of the people. As it makes a close impact, improvement is gradual. - Saturn rules manufacturing in general and is conj LO9, the Moon in H10. China has a manufacturing based economy and they export their goods, maintaining the largest surplus in the world - Ve is important to weather and is located in its own MTH, 12H. Mars LO6 aspects it closely. We can expect instances of violent weather. Importantly, Mars sits in watery Cancer. This gives violent watery weather. - Me is the final dispositor of Saturn (LO4, domestic happiness) and the Moon. Me has the close impact of Ke, which produces extremes in weather. China has an average of 5 typhoons per year and some random, extreme occurences. These shall be pointed out at a later date. - Atheism is to be seen through a weak Jupiter, H9 and the impact of a strong Mars and Saturn. Here Ju is weak by extreme old age. Debilitated tamasic Mars closely impacts Venus, the significator of materialistic pursuits. Saturn conj Mo in H10 gives the bent of mind towards service. LO10, the spiritual planet, the Sun is located in H11 as described; this gives initiative towards gains through hard work and service. As Ju closely impacts the 8H (mystic knowledge, research) and 10H (Mo, and Sa located), even though in old age, it is helpful. It accounts for the Chinese involvement in subtle energy sciences, research and esoteric philisophies. I believe that the 59% atheism is justified as this chart does show some spirituallity. - The life span seen in this chart is seen through Ve, Sa and influences on the 1, 8, and 12Hs. Positives are close well placed Sa-Mo, Ju-H8 MEP, Ve; negatives are close Ma-Ve, Ra-H1 MEP. Seen comprehensively, 72 years is inline. If anyone has a link that tells of the major cause of health concerns in China, please forward. - Ma-Ve close aspect, shows an unwelcoming attitude towards outsiders and foreign influences and adhering to foreign policies. It can also contribute to wealth through foreign sources as its not close. - Close conj of LO4, Sa and the Mo accounts for the largest resources for hydro power generation - Additionally, Thor has assesed this chart quickly and commented on the present situation, " China with Scorpio rising would be reserved but prone to explode in fury. Currently, both L2 Jupiter in H1 and L4 Saturn in H9 are under the afflicting aspect of Rahu at 23° 33' in Pisces and H5. This aspect will become even closer in coming weeks. Important as China now in Ju/Ju period and Jupiter is well placed in own sign and H2 but very weak in old age. The transit aspect of Jupiter to Saturn is not helpful because of the natal weakness of Jupiter in the chart. It would signal weak wealth and status for the country. This could bring the Taiwan issue to the fore, as L2 indicates relations with neighboring countries and L4 rules the territories. Interestingly, L4 Saturn is conjunct L9 Moon in H10 - not bad for fortune with territories or expansive territories and great heritage. Also, people would generally be content and communal harmony preserved. " On the population issue, I kindly request guidance on how to examine it. First case study: A key event was the Tiananmen Square massacre. You may google this event to find the details. Here is the analysis of the TT and a screen shot is attached: 3 June 1989, 22::30 - the first shootings at the Tiananmen Square massacre. Ra/Ra period Natal Ra is situated in H5; the axis forms a close association with all odd houses. H5 rules students, emotional stability, communal harmony, children, population, morals and values of the people etc. Natal Ke exactly afflicts tr Ju and Mo, and is close to tr Su; all these FB planets were in H7. H7 rules bond of relationships amongst masses and business establishments, foreign affairs and agreements. Mars LO6 (conflicts), significator of executions and violence, afflicts H8 (death, endings) exactly on this date. Natal Jupiter ruling status, is afflicted by this Mars. Venus LO12 natally afflicted by Mars, was in the afflicted 8H on this day under the exact affliction of tr Rahu from the 4H. Mars also afflicted natal Mercury. LO4 Sa was located in afflicted H2 and its Lord, Ju afflicted by na Ra. Putting it all together, trouble to the masses and students ending in violent executions resulting in loss of status of the nation. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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