Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant, Namaskar Provocation is for kids, we are gentlemen, so write like gentleman. Keep your testosteron for more important thigs than forum-battles. This doesnt suit you. I found your mail quite abusing and offending, especially that I tried to help you in past. I would not like to converse with you anymore. To clear the mess you've created, lets be honest: 1. Cant comment about your 'selling ancestors' as I cant find the reference. HOWEVER If thats suggest me as doing the same thats quite silly as Vedic tradition always was very close to my heart and to offend this tradition, would be the last thing everyone could imagine. In time, you will understand about mistake youve commited here. 2. Now about your problem with paid consultation. a) If the Purana suggest go give to the astrologer piece of gold, what it is in comparision to 80 euro? I follow the tradition again and you can find in Prasna Marga, Brhat Jataka and Garuda Purana that astrological consultation were NEVER for free. Nowadays when brahmanas are not supported by Goverment there is need for paid service, in the same way you pay to your doctors and professional consultants. All my Jyotish friends take the consultations for fee, as they want to sacrifice WHOLE TIME to study this science. This can be possible only when you can have circumstance where the Jyotish Vidya and your way of sustanence become the ONE. This is my aspiration from the early days and for me its quite clean, clear and honest. The point which is often ommited is that paid service is not only benefitting the astrologer, but also the client. Cant understand why these issues are not clear yet. You will not find any serious astrologer who make the readings for free and who is not the son born in rich family. Whats more? Its just very amazing that you are the only one whove could put this accusation on me. Except few others like Prashant Kumarji, Pram Chopraji, Bhaskarji , Karunakaraamji, Praveen Kumarji Im giving on regular basis the FREE READINGS to the lists from 2005. b) The funniest thing is that you were the only one person (in my history) who proposed me a deal, to share my income for your efforts in advertising my site/jyotish. Of course Ive stick to the standart rules which are far away from any kind of black buisness. And the same person who tried to make buisness with my Jyotish is accusing me of paid services. What an irony! 3. Regarding Tradition and foreigners. My parents are teachers (brahmana-karma per Manu Smrti)/(father is PHD on two Universities, mother is biology and german teacher). Maybe that can shock you but I consider myself lowborn due to birth outside of Bharata-varsa. Still Im very happy to know that legends like BV Raman, KN Rao, Sanjay Rath are giving chance to foreigners, as aparavidya jyotish (agni purana) gives the light even to Yavanas and Mlechas (which are even praised in Saravali of Kalyana Varma and Prashna Marga). Raman tried so hard to make this Vidya treated as science in the whole world. There are also savants in para-vidya which enlightments helps people outside Bharata-Varsa. I consider myself very lucky to know that I was living in Puri in previous life as an astrologer; and to know that Ive got the mercy of Lord Jagannath (message from one of the Puri Brahmins). Rest I will keep to myself. I felt that its my duty to expose that your knowledge about arudha lagna and other issues are not so familiar to you, like you want to present it. Its bad to misguide the people as they really need help (in form of knowledge or reading). Honesty always wins and I just want to save you from Guru-saapa in your nextlife horoscope. Dont treat this mail in bad way, Im not revengeful. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher *www*: http://rohinaa.com / *email*: rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Dear Rafal,Namaskar, I have not gone through your mail... Will go through it then reply you.Please dont take my previous mail seriously.Take it lightly... Still we are brothers right... It happens between siblings... Please come to India then we will enjoy and ill also take you to all holy places... Otherwise oneday i will come to your place to have chatting face to face... Rafal please i am saying you again take my mails lightly. I was just trying to see how much pressure you can bear.Bhai Sahab(brother) if you want to reach at height then make yourself accomodated to daily life pressures.Persons who cud bear pressure they rise high. Imagine how much pressures world top politicians and personalities bear... And i know you will rise very high.But time to time you need real environment to feel that pressure and leave that on me,i will do that....Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... Just kidding... This time you are passed (I know you will again mail me and write me i am not seeking any cetificate from you)... Rafal again sorry... Please keep rising i want to see you on peak in future....And i know you would be... I want to let you know one thing my this life is also cursed i have seen many bad days with my eyes and i was unable to help the victim... You can not imagine my bad days...anyway i am not here to do depressing talkings... Thanks and Regards Prashant Pandey Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant, Namaskar Provocation is for kids, we are gentlemen, so write like gentleman. Keep your testosteron for more important thigs than forum-battles. This doesnt suit you. I found your mail quite abusing and offending, especially that I tried to help you in past. I would not like to converse with you anymore. To clear the mess you've created, lets be honest: 1. Cant comment about your 'selling ancestors' as I cant find the reference. HOWEVER If thats suggest me as doing the same thats quite silly as Vedic tradition always was very close to my heart and to offend this tradition, would be the last thing everyone could imagine. In time, you will understand about mistake youve commited here. 2. Now about your problem with paid consultation. a) If the Purana suggest go give to the astrologer piece of gold, what it is in comparision to 80 euro? I follow the tradition again and you can find in Prasna Marga, Brhat Jataka and Garuda Purana that astrological consultation were NEVER for free. Nowadays when brahmanas are not supported by Goverment there is need for paid service, in the same way you pay to your doctors and professional consultants. All my Jyotish friends take the consultations for fee, as they want to sacrifice WHOLE TIME to study this science. This can be possible only when you can have circumstance where the Jyotish Vidya and your way of sustanence become the ONE. This is my aspiration from the early days and for me its quite clean, clear and honest. The point which is often ommited is that paid service is not only benefitting the astrologer, but also the client. Cant understand why these issues are not clear yet. You will not find any serious astrologer who make the readings for free and who is not the son born in rich family. Whats more? Its just very amazing that you are the only one whove could put this accusation on me. Except few others like Prashant Kumarji, Pram Chopraji, Bhaskarji , Karunakaraamji, Praveen Kumarji Im giving on regular basis the FREE READINGS to the lists from 2005. b) The funniest thing is that you were the only one person (in my history) who proposed me a deal, to share my income for your efforts in advertising my site/jyotish. Of course Ive stick to the standart rules which are far away from any kind of black buisness. And the same person who tried to make buisness with my Jyotish is accusing me of paid services. What an irony! 3. Regarding Tradition and foreigners. My parents are teachers (brahmana-karma per Manu Smrti)/(father is PHD on two Universities, mother is biology and german teacher). Maybe that can shock you but I consider myself lowborn due to birth outside of Bharata-varsa. Still Im very happy to know that legends like BV Raman, KN Rao, Sanjay Rath are giving chance to foreigners, as aparavidya jyotish (agni purana) gives the light even to Yavanas and Mlechas (which are even praised in Saravali of Kalyana Varma and Prashna Marga). Raman tried so hard to make this Vidya treated as science in the whole world. There are also savants in para-vidya which enlightments helps people outside Bharata-Varsa. I consider myself very lucky to know that I was living in Puri in previous life as an astrologer; and to know that Ive got the mercy of Lord Jagannath (message from one of the Puri Brahmins). Rest I will keep to myself. I felt that its my duty to expose that your knowledge about arudha lagna and other issues are not so familiar to you, like you want to present it. Its bad to misguide the people as they really need help (in form of knowledge or reading). Honesty always wins and I just want to save you from Guru-saapa in your nextlife horoscope. Dont treat this mail in bad way, Im not revengeful. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher *www*: http://rohinaa.com / *email*: rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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