|Sri Varaha| 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

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Dear Sarajit, list,

 

Thank you for this post- these principles are very educative.

I will try to apply these to my fourth house, please correct me or comment if I missed something:

Cn Lagna/Moon Scoprpio, 5/Saturn 3rd/ Mars 4th/Sun 7th/ Jupiter 9th/ Rahu Aq 8th/

 

-4th Lord is Venus in sixth- doesn't protect 4th house: in general- Venus in Sag. therefore aspected/aflicted by Jupiter and Saturn: little help from Jupiter

Venus in 6th with Mercury, 12th/3rd Lord, makes situation worse, for 4th house matters. No aspect to 4th

Venus is in maranakaraka stana of Sun- ??? /but that doesn't matter, I guess/

Karakas:

-Moon- Mother- deb. in Scorpio but trine, and trine with Jupiter, saves mom/? But Saturn's aspect makes her suffer/?

/In reality: my mother enjoys excellent health, life, and my health is 'not robust'- Moon-body- Lagna Lord/

 

-Mercury-education /should be with difficulty/ based on the above. Same aspects as for venus /In which way does it benefit from aspects, if at all? what would be consenquencies for other houses Mercury rules?/

Isn't placement in 6th good for Mercury?

 

-House: Ketu in 2nd, Leo- ? Doesn't seem well placed

/I do care a lot about having a house and had/have my own house in reality, though/

 

-Vehicles- I truly hate driving, never wanted to buy a car- but that's Venus again-

 

-Landed Property: Mars in 4th- yogakaraka- in Rahu nakashtra and aspected by Rahu in own sign- I'd say good for Landed P.

Since Rahu is in 8th- LP /or house?/ will be inherited /?

This seems to be the best protected area of 4th- unless we consider aspect with Rahu afliction as I'd be inclined to

 

 

Seems I'm missing some pieces here. Plese comment on this. I'll keep mentally these principles whenever analyzing any house.

Thanks, Sarajit

Anna

 

 

 

 

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Cc: varahamihira

Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:00 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Parag and Gurudev,

 

The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement. However I would like to narrate some principles.

 

1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house.

2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life.

3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and loses if placed with natural malefics.

4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or trine is not bad.

5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good.

6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord is aspected by the karaka of the house.

 

Now analyse the your case based on these principles.

 

Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive, intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is under trouble.

 

Take the 4th house, the karakas are

Mother- Moon

Landed Property - Mars

House - Ketu

Vehicles - Venus

Education - Mercury

 

Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering. Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles. Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu.

 

You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the 11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the aspects of friends from the 9th.

 

However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha. As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter.

 

Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

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Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

 

 

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

 

Dear Parag

 

The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.

 

Dhanus Lagna

 

Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered.

 

Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore.

 

You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth).

 

Meena Lagna

 

There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job.

 

You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there.

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In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this trip abroad.

 

Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him.

 

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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Sunday, April 13, 2003 08:43:01 PM

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[vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on it...RegardsParag Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

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Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Anna,

comments under your letter

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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varahamihira

Monday, April 14, 2003 10:17:07 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Dear Sarajit, list,

 

Thank you for this post- these principles are very educative.

I will try to apply these to my fourth house, please correct me or comment if I missed something:

Cn Lagna/Moon Scoprpio, 5/Saturn 3rd/ Mars 4th/Sun 7th/ Jupiter 9th/ Rahu Aq 8th/

 

-4th Lord is Venus in sixth- doesn't protect 4th house: in general- Venus in Sag. therefore aspected/aflicted by Jupiter and Saturn: little help from Jupiter

Venus in 6th with Mercury, 12th/3rd Lord, makes situation worse, for 4th house matters. No aspect to 4th

Venus is in maranakaraka stana of Sun- ??? /but that doesn't matter, I guess/

Rath: Venus is not in marana karaka sthana 'of sun' it is in marana karaka sthana 'from lagna'. This will cause destruction to the matters related to the fourth and the eleventh houses. what matters will have to be judged from the karaka.

 

Karakas:

-Moon- Mother- deb. in Scorpio but trine, and trine with Jupiter, saves mom/? But Saturn's aspect makes her suffer/?

/In reality: my mother enjoys excellent health, life, and my health is 'not robust'- Moon-body- Lagna Lord/

Rath: Moon is debilitated, but not in trine to the the fourth house. The Moon also does not have neechabhanga and this causes problems to your health as it is the lagna lord and as such is significator of the mind. Normally such a debilitated Moon brings melancholia, many problems that do not give in easily to solutions etc. Saturn as the karaka of the natural eighth house holds the key. L R Chawdhri used to recommend the light blue sapphire for such nativities.

Moon has argala on the 4th house that is removed by Mars. Thus, Mother has fine health, but what about properties?? You may have to live in a foreign land or such things due to this.

 

-Mercury-education /should be with difficulty/ based on the above. Same aspects as for venus /In which way does it benefit from aspects, if at all? what would be consenquencies for other houses Mercury rules?/

Isn't placement in 6th good for Mercury?

Rath: Excellent placement for Mercury but it does not promote the fourth house but is very beneficial for the second house 'vac' or speech and such people have the 'vac siddhi' easily. The relationship to the fourth house indicates that you have to work hard 'Mercury is 3rd from 4th house -parakrama' to get results.

-House: Ketu in 2nd, Leo- ? Doesn't seem well placed

/I do care a lot about having a house and had/have my own house in reality, though/

Rath: Why is this bad? Ketu has argala on the 4th house and is the only one intervening with the Venus. The point is once you shift to a foreign country, then the effect of this is nullified to a large extent.

-Vehicles- I truly hate driving, never wanted to buy a car- but that's Venus again-

Rath: Confirms Venus in marana Karaka avastha. Also check if you have a large depression or gate in the South east direction of the house or whether this has some drain/dustbin. Vaastu dosha is likely in this part of the house or property.

-Landed Property: Mars in 4th- yogakaraka- in Rahu nakashtra and aspected by Rahu in own sign- I'd say good for Landed P.

Since Rahu is in 8th- LP /or house?/ will be inherited /?

This seems to be the best protected area of 4th- unless we consider aspect with Rahu afliction as I'd be inclined to

Rath: I thought Mars was in Virgo and Rahu in Aquarius. Can't understand the aspect.

 

 

 

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Cc: varahamihira

Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:00 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Parag and Gurudev,

 

The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement. However I would like to narrate some principles.

 

1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house.

2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life.

3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and loses if placed with natural malefics.

4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or trine is not bad.

5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good.

6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord is aspected by the karaka of the house.

 

Now analyse the your case based on these principles.

 

Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive, intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is under trouble.

 

Take the 4th house, the karakas are

Mother- Moon

Landed Property - Mars

House - Ketu

Vehicles - Venus

Education - Mercury

 

Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering. Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles. Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu.

 

You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the 11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the aspects of friends from the 9th.

 

However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha. As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter.

 

Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

-

Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

 

 

 

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

 

Dear Parag

 

The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.

 

Dhanus Lagna

 

Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered.

 

Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore.

 

You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth).

 

Meena Lagna

 

There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job.

 

You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there.

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In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this trip abroad.

 

Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him.

 

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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vedic astrology

Sunday, April 13, 2003 08:43:01 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on it...RegardsParag Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

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Dear Sarajit ,

Namaskar,

 

Inspired by your post, I regained my enthusiasm to send a mail to our list again. In the chart below , you'll see that Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana. I am trying the analyse the situation arising out of it. Please guide me in my understanding.

 

The chart ( D-1 ) : Lagna-Taurus, 4th house- Moon, Rahu, 7th house-Mercury ®, 8th house- Sun, 9th house- venus, Mars, Jupiter, 10th house- Ketu, 11th house- Saturn.

 

Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana , and as he owns 2nd and 5th house, he causes destruction to these houses.

 

Now, let us first take up the 2nd house. Karaka for wealth of 2nd house is Jupiter who is situated in the 8th house from 2nd house , debilitated , and associated with enemy Venus and friend Mars. Not at all a happy situation for Jupiter. Again see that venus is 12th lord from 2nd house, and Mars is the 6th lord from the 2nd house. Can we conclude that the native will not be able to accumulate wealth for heavy expenditure ( 12 th house ) due to enmity, disease , debt ( 6th house ) ?

 

Jupiter is the karaka for family also. And the same conditions prevail. So, the native will be unhappy in his family life. Or, he would be separated from his family .

 

Now, about the 5th house--- Jupiter is again the karaka of children and intelligence. But fortunately Jupiter is in trine from the 5th house, and a gurumangal yoga in trine from the 5th house is good for his intelligence and knowledge and learning. He will also have happiness from children, as the karaka Jupiter is in trine from 5th house.

 

Mars is the karaka for speculation, and it's association with jupiter ( though debilitated , but it is having neechabhanga) in trine from 5th house indicates the native to have good ability to speculate.Mars is also the Karaka for power , and he will also enjoy power. As Sun , the Karaka for authority in in Kendra from the 5th house, the native will also have authority.

 

Now, please make me understand the following points :

 

When these effects of mercury will be felt ? Through out the life ? What will happen in Dasa / Antardasa of Mercury ( In Vimsottari )?

 

Mercury is AK for the native. Does it signify anything ?

 

In Narayana Dasa scheme, he passed the maha dasa of scorpio , containing Mercury in the first three years of his life. During that period, he fell from the bed and sustained trauma over his head a few times. Had it anything to do with Mercury being in Marana karaka Sthana and the Mahadasa of the Rasi containing the planet was running ?

 

What is the significance of a retrograde planet in Marana Karaka Sthana, as it is in this case ?

 

How remedial measures are adviced in cases of planet in Marana Karaka Sthana and when ?

 

With best wishes and warm regards ,

Dilip Banerjee.

PS : Wishing you a very very happy and prosperous Bengali New Year.

 

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Cc: varahamihira

Monday, April 14, 2003 7:30 AM

|Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Parag and Gurudev,

 

The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement. However I would like to narrate some principles.

 

1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house.

2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life.

3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and loses if placed with natural malefics.

4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or trine is not bad.

5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good.

6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord is aspected by the karaka of the house.

 

Now analyse the your case based on these principles.

 

Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive, intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is under trouble.

 

Take the 4th house, the karakas are

Mother- Moon

Landed Property - Mars

House - Ketu

Vehicles - Venus

Education - Mercury

 

Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering. Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles. Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu.

 

You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the 11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the aspects of friends from the 9th.

 

However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha. As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter.

 

Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

-

Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

 

 

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

 

Dear Parag

 

The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.

 

Dhanus Lagna

 

Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered.

 

Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore.

 

You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth).

 

Meena Lagna

 

There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job.

 

You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there.

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In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this trip abroad.

 

Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him.

 

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[vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on it...RegardsParag Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

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Thank you for your reply, it's been very informative, as always. I obviously wasn't clear enough, so you didn't get the right picture. Moon in Scorpio in 5th house gets

cancelation since Mars is in 4th house. /And Sun is in 7th-lord of second/. And when I said trine/ trine: Lagna, Jupiter from 9th in Pisces/ I guess that changes things a lot.

Therefore 'properties' are not affected, as per my understanding- please correct me if I am wrong.

 

'Marana Stana' concept is still not quite clear to me, within this framework- I've learnt from various sources, perhaps. My understanding is that the fact that venus is in sixth, plus badakha Lord /11th/ causes for both reasons destruction to the houses concerned. And now after your comment I would say it's double-whamy- 1/Venus as Lord of 4th in 6th- which is marana stana. 2/+Venus is badhaka Lord. You included 11th house within the same explanation: my question is what the place /within this picture/ of 'badhaka' concept is.

When I specualte on this, what would a good placement for badhaka planet be, anyway?

 

These are major things I'd like to know about-I wrote some more bellow your comments,

and would appreciate your response.

 

Thanks Sanjay, a lot.

Anna

 

-Please see my comments bellow-

 

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Sanjay Rath

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Monday, April 14, 2003 2:33 AM

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Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Anna,

comments under your letter

With best regards,

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Monday, April 14, 2003 10:17:07 AM

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Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Dear Sarajit, list,

 

Thank you for this post- these principles are very educative.

I will try to apply these to my fourth house, please correct me or comment if I missed something:

Cn Lagna/Moon Scoprpio, 5/Saturn 3rd/ Mars 4th/Sun 7th/ Jupiter 9th/ Rahu Aq 8th/

 

-4th Lord is Venus in sixth- doesn't protect 4th house: in general- Venus in Sag. therefore aspected/aflicted by Jupiter and Saturn: little help from Jupiter

Venus in 6th with Mercury, 12th/3rd Lord, makes situation worse, for 4th house matters. No aspect to 4th

Venus is in maranakaraka stana of Sun- ??? /but that doesn't matter, I guess/

Rath: Venus is not in marana karaka sthana 'of sun' it is in marana karaka sthana 'from lagna'. This will cause destruction to the matters related to the fourth and the eleventh houses. what matters will have to be judged from the karaka.

 

*What would be the role of planets /venus, Mercury/ in the 12th from Sun?- other than creating contra-argala?

 

Karakas:

-Moon- Mother- deb. in Scorpio but trine, and trine with Jupiter, saves mom/? But Saturn's aspect makes her suffer/?

/In reality: my mother enjoys excellent health, life, and my health is 'not robust'- Moon-body- Lagna Lord/

Rath: Moon is debilitated, but not in trine to the the fourth house. The Moon also does not have neechabhanga and this causes problems to your health as it is the lagna lord and as such is significator of the mind. Normally such a debilitated Moon brings melancholia, many problems that do not give in easily to solutions etc. Saturn as the karaka of the natural eighth house holds the key. L R Chawdhri used to recommend the light blue sapphire for such nativities./ as I said- Mars is in forth- that's cancelation, right? In trinal house FROM LAGNA and trine Jup/trine Lagna/

 

*Saturn is in third- Why would Saturn gem be helpful?- isn't it already very strong? /Strong in Sign, in Moon Nakashtra, powered by aspect with Jupiter. +My Lagna in Pushya, Saturn ruled Nak./This is technical question- in reality, I like SATURN's stuff the most- 'Saphire and Diamonds' both- that's is my favourite jewelry. I stopped wearing them though- not to empower Saturn /I do know it's powerful in my life- my sense of responsibility, order, duty..etc..I didn't find it bad, before AK Moon MD has begun.

I wear pearls and 2k yellow saphire- don't like them nearly as much as Sapphire. I would appreciate your opinion on this, since whomever I spoke to thought my preference was 'wrong'.

 

Moon has argala on the 4th house that is removed by Mars. Thus, Mother has fine health, but what about properties?? You may have to live in a foreign land or such things due to this.

 

*Sanjay please expand on this, explain- Mars is in 12th from Moon-and removes Moon's argala on 4th- why would argala of Moon be bad for 4th? Seems like you are implying that /I though contrary- that Mars contra-argala on Moon is not good for my mom, although in reality I haven't noticed that/. As`for properties-it's not the case- why?

 

-Mercury-education /should be with difficulty/ based on the above. Same aspects as for venus /In which way does it benefit from aspects, if at all? what would be consenquencies for other houses Mercury rules?/

Isn't placement in 6th good for Mercury?

Rath: Excellent placement for Mercury but it does not promote the fourth house but is very beneficial for the second house 'vac' or speech and such people have the 'vac siddhi' easily. The relationship to the fourth house indicates that you have to work hard 'Mercury is 3rd from 4th house -parakrama' to get results.

 

*Now that you said that, is whole lot clearer to me! And for working hard- yes, althouh it's so much part of my /saturnian?/ nature, that working hard /I've always worked mentally/ is a joy for me. /For physical work I am not very good- but that seems to fit explanation/

 

-House: Ketu in 2nd, Leo- ? Doesn't seem well placed

/I do care a lot about having a house and had/have my own house in reality, though/

 

Rath: Why is this bad? Ketu has argala on the 4th house and is the only one intervening with the Venus. The point is once you shift to a foreign country, then the effect of this is nullified to a large extent.

 

*Thanks a lot. I wasn't aware of that. Since it's karaka for property, that's: no property abroad, BUT at home? Is that right? /Would fit reality/ If so, would one do better at home?

 

-Vehicles- I truly hate driving, never wanted to buy a car- but that's Venus again-

Rath: Confirms Venus in marana Karaka avastha. Also check if you have a large depression or gate in the South east direction of the house or whether this has some drain/dustbin. Vaastu dosha is likely in this part of the house or property.

 

*South East is entrance- and walk-in closet is inside. Will ckeck out. I don't know what Vaastu dosha is, just that it's not good, ha,ha

 

As for driving, I thought that saturn in 3rd makes me averse- /I am used to listening to my inner-voice- so, it might be even dangerous for me- is that correct understanding?- besides, there must be the reason for how I feel/

 

-Landed Property: Mars in 4th- yogakaraka- in Rahu nakashtra and aspected by Rahu in own sign- I'd say good for Landed P.

Since Rahu is in 8th- LP /or house?/ will be inherited /?

This seems to be the best protected area of 4th- unless we consider aspect with Rahu afliction as I'd be inclined to

Rath: I thought Mars was in Virgo and Rahu in Aquarius. Can't understand the aspect.

 

*No, Saturn is in Virgo, Mars is in Libra.

But I know more now anyway-

What would be the role of this? Mars conj Rahu in 5th house in Navasma Sagitarius /Jupiter in 4th, Sc/, due to this trine.

 

Thank you again.

 

A.

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Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:00 PM

|Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Parag and Gurudev,

 

The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement. However I would like to narrate some principles.

 

1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house.

2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life.

3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and loses if placed with natural malefics.

4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or trine is not bad.

5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good.

6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord is aspected by the karaka of the house.

 

Now analyse the your case based on these principles.

 

Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive, intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is under trouble.

 

Take the 4th house, the karakas are

Mother- Moon

Landed Property - Mars

House - Ketu

Vehicles - Venus

Education - Mercury

 

Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering. Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles. Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu.

 

You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the 11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the aspects of friends from the 9th.

 

However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha. As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter.

 

Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

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Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

 

 

 

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

 

Dear Parag

 

The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.

 

Dhanus Lagna

 

Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered.

 

Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore.

 

You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth).

 

Meena Lagna

 

There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job.

 

You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there.

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In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this trip abroad.

 

Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him.

 

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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Sunday, April 13, 2003 08:43:01 PM

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[vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on it...RegardsParag Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: /group /vedic astrology/info.html

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Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Dilip babu,

 

comments given under:

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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You wrote:

The chart ( D-1 ) : Lagna-Taurus, 4th house- Moon, Rahu, 7th house-Mercury ®, 8th house- Sun, 9th house- venus, Mars, Jupiter, 10th house- Ketu, 11th house- Saturn.

Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana , and as he owns 2nd and 5th house, he causes destruction to these houses.

 

Now, let us first take up the 2nd house. Karaka for wealth of 2nd house is Jupiter who is situated in the 8th house from 2nd house , debilitated , and associated with enemy Venus and friend Mars. Not at all a happy situation for Jupiter. Again see that venus is 12th lord from 2nd house, and Mars is the 6th lord from the 2nd house. Can we conclude that the native will not be able to accumulate wealth for heavy expenditure ( 12 th house ) due to enmity, disease , debt ( 6th house ) ?

 

Rath: Not really as in matters of wealth, the rules get modified due to the fact that a debilitated planet can contribute substantially to the financial well being like a defeated king who has to perforce part with his wealth and lands. Thus the native *CAN* accumulate a lot of money from other weak people like sick people or people going through litigations and troubles, provided his conscience allows. 12th house should be taken as the 12th house and not lagna. The 12th house happens to be the 11th house from the 2nd hous and causes argala on it. That is why everyone spends money (12th house) on the basis of the money they have in their wallet or bank (end house).

 

Jupiter is the karaka for family also. And the same conditions prevail. So, the native will be unhappy in his family life. Or, he would be separated from his family .

Rath: Take Moon indicating society and kula to indicate the family.

 

Now, about the 5th house--- Jupiter is again the karaka of children and intelligence. But fortunately Jupiter is in trine from the 5th house, and a gurumangal yoga in trine from the 5th house is good for his intelligence and knowledge and learning. He will also have happiness from children, as the karaka Jupiter is in trine from 5th house.

Rath: Venus is also in trine to the fifth house. Dilip babu you missed this, perhaps on purpose!

What about apara vidya or good knowledge to cure people or even matters like speculation...what happens here.

 

Mars is the karaka for speculation, and it's association with jupiter ( though debilitated , but it is having neechabhanga) in trine from 5th house indicates the native to have good ability to speculate.Mars is also the Karaka for power , and he will also enjoy power. As Sun , the Karaka for authority in in Kendra from the 5th house, the native will also have authority.

 

Now, please make me understand the following points :

 

When these effects of mercury will be felt ? Through out the life ? What will happen in Dasa / Antardasa of Mercury ( In Vimsottari )?

Rath: Narayana dasa of signs aspecting Mercury or related to it.Suffering related to the bhavas is sure to be there.

 

Mercury is AK for the native. Does it signify anything ?

Rath: He is the boss and the events indicated by Mercury will be felt throughout life.

 

In Narayana Dasa scheme, he passed the maha dasa of scorpio , containing Mercury in the first three years of his life. During that period, he fell from the bed and sustained trauma over his head a few times. Had it anything to do with Mercury being in Marana karaka Sthana and the Mahadasa of the Rasi containing the planet was running ?

Rath: Yes else he would not have had those experiences. Look for links with dhanus rasi in divisional charts. Babies are ruled by Cancer sign and the natural dasa is that of the Moon. The sixth house from cancer is sagittarius and that is why babies are always in the danger of falling and hurting themselves.

 

What is the significance of a retrograde planet in Marana Karaka Sthana, as it is in this case ?

 

How remedial measures are adviced in cases of planet in Marana Karaka Sthana and when ?

Rath: check its karakatva. Here Mercury is the AK so the remedy comes from Ista devata alone.

 

With best wishes and warm regards ,

Dilip Banerjee.

PS : Wishing you a very very happy and prosperous Bengali New Year.

 

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Dear Guruji,

 

Your good wishes on the new year came to me as blessings. Yes, the joy of living is only possible in the discovery of the inner spiritual truths.

 

Some points of your kind reply needs a little clarification for my understanding. Please see my questions below.

 

With pranams

Dilip.

 

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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:27 PM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Dilip babu,

 

comments given under:

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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You wrote:

The chart ( D-1 ) : Lagna-Taurus, 4th house- Moon, Rahu, 7th house-Mercury ®, 8th house- Sun, 9th house- venus, Mars, Jupiter, 10th house- Ketu, 11th house- Saturn.

Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana , and as he owns 2nd and 5th house, he causes destruction to these houses.

 

Now, let us first take up the 2nd house. Karaka for wealth of 2nd house is Jupiter who is situated in the 8th house from 2nd house , debilitated , and associated with enemy Venus and friend Mars. Not at all a happy situation for Jupiter. Again see that venus is 12th lord from 2nd house, and Mars is the 6th lord from the 2nd house. Can we conclude that the native will not be able to accumulate wealth for heavy expenditure ( 12 th house ) due to enmity, disease , debt ( 6th house ) ?

 

Rath: Not really as in matters of wealth, the rules get modified due to the fact that a debilitated planet can contribute substantially to the financial well being like a defeated king who has to perforce part with his wealth and lands. Thus the native *CAN* accumulate a lot of money from other weak people like sick people or people going through litigations and troubles, provided his conscience allows. 12th house should be taken as the 12th house and not lagna. The 12th house happens to be the 11th house from the 2nd hous and causes argala on it. That is why everyone spends money (12th house) on the basis of the money they have in their wallet or bank (end house).

Dilip : fantastic.

 

Jupiter is the karaka for family also. And the same conditions prevail. So, the native will be unhappy in his family life. Or, he would be separated from his family .

Rath: Take Moon indicating society and kula to indicate the family.

Dilip : If Moon is taken as karaka of kula, let us see it. Moon is situated in the 3rd house from the 2nd house- which is neither a kendra nor trikona , but a partially evil house and a upachaya house from the 2nd house,so though this placement of the karaka of kula do not protect the 2nd house in matters of family, it surely gives growth to the Kula (family). And moon is afflicted here by Rahu. There is rasi dristi on this Moon by Jup, Mars and Venus ( I am taking here the rasi dristi only, because this is the influence that is always there ) . So many influences on Moon has only increased my confusion as to the outcome of the result.Please tell me how should I proceed in analysing situations like this .

Now, about the 5th house--- Jupiter is again the karaka of children and intelligence. But fortunately Jupiter is in trine from the 5th house, and a gurumangal yoga in trine from the 5th house is good for his intelligence and knowledge and learning. He will also have happiness from children, as the karaka Jupiter is in trine from 5th house.

Rath: Venus is also in trine to the fifth house. Dilip babu you missed this, perhaps on purpose!

What about apara vidya or good knowledge to cure people or even matters like speculation...what happens here.

 

Mars is the karaka for speculation, and it's association with jupiter ( though debilitated , but it is having neechabhanga) in trine from 5th house indicates the native to have good ability to speculate.Mars is also the Karaka for power , and he will also enjoy power. As Sun , the Karaka for authority in in Kendra from the 5th house, the native will also have authority.

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Dilip : So what is the ultimate outcome of this Mercury in Marana Karaka Sthana ? Everything appears to be good ...

 

 

Now, please make me understand the following points :

 

When these effects of mercury will be felt ? Through out the life ? What will happen in Dasa / Antardasa of Mercury ( In Vimsottari )?

Rath: Narayana dasa of signs aspecting Mercury or related to it.Suffering related to the bhavas is sure to be there.

 

Mercury is AK for the native. Does it signify anything ?

Rath: He is the boss and the events indicated by Mercury will be felt throughout life.

 

In Narayana Dasa scheme, he passed the maha dasa of scorpio , containing Mercury in the first three years of his life. During that period, he fell from the bed and sustained trauma over his head a few times. Had it anything to do with Mercury being in Marana karaka Sthana and the Mahadasa of the Rasi containing the planet was running ?

Rath: Yes else he would not have had those experiences. Look for links with dhanus rasi in divisional charts. Babies are ruled by Cancer sign and the natural dasa is that of the Moon. The sixth house from cancer is sagittarius and that is why babies are always in the danger of falling and hurting themselves.

 

What is the significance of a retrograde planet in Marana Karaka Sthana, as it is in this case ?

 

 

Dilip : Lovely ......but what does this mean about retrograde Marana karaka Planet? As Mercury is retrograde AK, it shows the deep rooted desire to take birth. How to find out the desire ? The chart is attached now.

How remedial measures are adviced in cases of planet in Marana Karaka Sthana and when ?

Rath: check its karakatva. Here Mercury is the AK so the remedy comes from Ista devata alone.

Dilip : I am trying to find out his Ista Devata, please guide. 12 th from AK in Navamsa is Aquarius without any planet, lorded by Saturn and Rahu. and both are placed alone in Saggi and Libra respectively. Saturn is aspected by mercury, Venus, Mars from pisces, and by Moon from Gemini . but Rahu is aspected by Sun from Taurus and Jupiter from Leo. So as more number of Planets aspects Saturn, he is the Ista Devata. Saturn is Lord Narayana. What is the Mantra? Om Namo Narayanaya ? Should this mantra be taught to child? Or , which mantra will be more effective for him ?

 

With best wishes and warm regards ,

Dilip Banerjee.

PS : Wishing you a very very happy and prosperous Bengali New Year.

 

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