Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Parag and Gurudev, The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement. However I would like to narrate some principles. 1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house. 2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life. 3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and loses if placed with natural malefics. 4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or trine is not bad. 5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good. 6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord is aspected by the karaka of the house. Now analyse the your case based on these principles. Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive, intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is under trouble. Take the 4th house, the karakas are Mother- Moon Landed Property - Mars House - Ketu Vehicles - Venus Education - Mercury Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering. Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles. Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu. You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the 11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the aspects of friends from the 9th. However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha. As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter. Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis. Best Wishes Sarajit - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM Re: [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd Om Sri Gurave namah Dear Parag The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases. Dhanus Lagna Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered. Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore. You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth). Meena Lagna There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job. You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there. ------------ In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this trip abroad. Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him. Sanjay Rath H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Webpages: http://srath.com ---- vedic astrology Sunday, April 13, 2003 08:43:01 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] 11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on it...RegardsParag Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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