Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 ~Om Gurave Namah~Dear Ajit,I have already discussed the possibility of printing a Panchanga with the publisher Sagar Publications and they are ready when we are. In fact it is we who are late in this and not them. The following notes are for discusssions and also to be added to the Panchanga. Since your letter is what I read after the gayatri, you will be in charge of this Panchanga. My only request being to stick to the name of Sri Jagannath.--------------------------------There are four types of Masa: 1. Saura masa or the solar month with its differential opinion of how to consider as you have pointed out. The four different opinions are based on the four gayatri with (a) Orissa, Punjab et.al. sticking to the Brahma gayatri (sunrise point reckoning) and the day of the sankranti is taken as the start of the month, [satya] (b) Kerala schoold considers tha abhijit muhrta as determining (midday) and if the sankranti is after midday, then they take the next day to initiate the month. This is the second gayatri or the sandhya at midday [Treta] © Tamilnadu has a more rational system than that with the sankranti based on day/night and the starting date is the next day if this has occured after sunset and is based on the evening junction or the third gayatri. [Dwapara] (d) Finally, the consideration of the turiya gayatri came into the picture with the advent of Kali Yuga and the Bengal school (only one wing if I am right) consider this based on the midnight as the determining factor. [Kali] The arguments are fine, but then the decision should be based on what we consider to be the determination of day. Already the definition of the day has shifted to Kali gayatri in Kali Yuga with the British introducing the begining of the day from the midnight hour. However, we Vedic astrologers have stuck to satya and continue to use the day definition as begining from sunrise. Thus, an event occuring on a day, which is reckoned from sunrise, should be recorded as such. The results of birth in different masa and the determination of the lord of the month is based on determination of the day of sankranti. In Jyotish, this is strictly taken as the day (between two consecutive sunrise) that a sankranti occurs. For example, let us consider the New year chart 2001. The data is below:Solar Year April 13, 2001Time: 11:33:35 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 85 E 50' 00", 20 N 14' 00", Bhubaneswar, IndiaLunar Yr-Mo: Vrisha - ChaitraTithi: Krishna Shashthi (Ve) (24.55% left)Weekday: Friday (Ve)Nakshatra: Moola (Ke) (32.10% left)Yoga: Parigha (Sa)Karana: Vanija (Ve)Sunrise: 5:31:15 amSunset: 6:04:26 pmJanma Ghatis: 45.0972 According to (a) Orissa/Punjab and (b) Kerala, this shall be taken as the 13 April, 2001 and according to © Tamil Nadu and (d) Bengal, this is taken as 14 April 2001. Bengal has a few other variations and this can be ignored as wishful thinking by the intelligent mind. If we were to follow Varahamihira and stick to the tradition, then we should take the date as 13 April 2001 as the begining of the Samvatsara. This will cause Venus (lord of Friday) to be the lord of the year for (a) & (b) and Saturn (lord of Saturday, the day following), to be the lord of the year for © & (d). since for all Jyotish purposes we use Venus, we do not see the reason for confusing this issue by taking Saturday as the date of Sankranti and Saturn as the lord of the day. Thus, the definition for the begining of the Samvatsara is the day on which the Sun shall change signs as this is the truth of its disposition, and for this purpose we should also follow Varaha in the definition of the day as the first visibility of the upper limb of the Sun. Since this can vary across continents and the day of Sankranti for India would be different for the United States, the "Interational Jyotish Date Line" should be taken as Ujjain, India which is the seat of the Jyotirlinga Mahakaleswara - the keeper of time. Of course, in local Panchanga, the sthana devata determines the date line like Puri does for Orissa being the seat of Lord Jagannath, but then it would be my bias and not the correct thing to adopt for a panchanga.------Other points to follow. Please start tabulating the Panchanga using Lahiri ayanamsa.Please respond to the Varaha list only for the opinion of all the learned members so that we can consolidate the views.Best wishes,Sanjay Rath -----H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar - 751014, India SJC Web pages: http://.orgPersonal Web: http://srath.com Tel: +91-674-243 6781----- - Ajit Krishnan saratj ; Sanjay Rath ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao ; Sarajit Poddar ; narayan Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:56 PMmudgala panchangahamsa om soham Dear Gurus, I wanted to inform you personally that I have prepared some panchangas for this year and put them online at http://www.mudgala.com/panchanga. I would appreciate any comments for improvement. This calendar uses the new-moon month for festival dates as per my family tradition. However, I would also like to generate calendars based on proper understanding (this includes the use of full-moon months which you have always advocated). I am trying to make these changes now. However, in order to do other calculations correctly, I need your help. For example, I know of four different methods to calculate the beginning of the solar month:1) orissa school: take the day when sankranti occurs2) tamil school: if sankranti occurs before sunset, take the same day. Otherwise, take the next day3) malyali school: if sankranti occurs before aparahna kala, take the same day. Otherwise, take the next day4) bengal school: if sankranti occurs before midnight, take the next day. Otherwise, take the 3rd day. As per my understanding, the malyali school is probably correct here, since we are suppossed to offer tarpanam at the madhyahna sandya after sankranti occurs. Gurudeva...you had mentioned earlier that you would like to release a SJC ephemeris / panchanga in the future. I can help in this endeavour. ajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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