2nd from Upapada Lagna & Upapada Lagna : Doubt reply to Swee Chan Ji

February 20, 2007

Respected Swee Chan ,

Hello

You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL

(SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for pointing

it out.

Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same

bhava with moon and venus.

Depositor is venus.

Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the

2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

marriage.

Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu

form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

thanks

Angel

--- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect? Is

> Jupiter in debility?

> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> drishti?

> I don¹t think anyone has suggested the worship of

> the UL lord, but

> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to

> any kind of situation.

> This is because UL is the external stimulus that one

> seeks to effect inner

> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy

> in one¹s Ishta Devata,

> will bring these two polarities together regardless

> of external

> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the

> Atma.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

>

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL

> is

> > debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may

> be

> > separation also.

> >

> > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not

> > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord

> is

> > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage

> will

> > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are

> empty

> > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation

> also.

> >

> > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both

> husband

> > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and

> 2nd

> > from UL planets and houses.

> >

> > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of

> > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is

> said

> > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL

> lord

> > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet

> present

> > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign

> whose

> > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for

> > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must

> worship

> > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by

> Mars

> > which means kartikeya also. So that means worship

> > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please

> > confirm this part.

> >

> > thanks

> > Angel

> >

>

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February 21, 2007

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Angel,

Namaste

What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from Moon?

Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance.

Love,

Swee

On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

Respected Swee Chan ,

Hello

You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL

(SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for pointing

it out.

Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same

bhava with moon and venus.

Depositor is venus.

Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the

2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

marriage.

Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu

form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

thanks

Angel

--- Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect? Is

> Jupiter in debility?

> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> drishti?

> I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of

> the UL lord, but

> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to

> any kind of situation.

> This is because UL is the external stimulus that one

> seeks to effect inner

> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy

> in one’s Ishta Devata,

> will bring these two polarities together regardless

> of external

> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the

> Atma.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel " <angelgoel <angelgoel%40> >

>

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL

> is

> > debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may

> be

> > separation also.

> >

> > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not

> > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord

> is

> > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage

> will

> > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are

> empty

> > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation

> also.

> >

> > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both

> husband

> > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and

> 2nd

> > from UL planets and houses.

> >

> > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of

> > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is

> said

> > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL

> lord

> > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet

> present

> > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign

> whose

> > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for

> > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must

> worship

> > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by

> Mars

> > which means kartikeya also. So that means worship

> > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please

> > confirm this part.

> >

> > thanks

> > Angel

> >

>

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February 21, 2007

Respected Swee Chan ,

Namaste

Thanks for reply but I am confused totally by your

analysis :-(

D1 Chart of female native is :-

Asc-Scorpio

1-Mercury

2-

3-

4-

5-ketu

6-

7-

8-jup

9-mars (debilitated) <--- Upapada Lagna

10-saturn

11-rahu

12-moon,venus(strong),sun(debilitated)

Lord of Upapada Lagna (Cancer sign) is MOON which

means fasting on mondays. Deity to be worshipped for

marriage-sustainence is male-form of vishu of SUN (leo

sign) which is Lord Rama. In this case,Sun is

debilitated so need to worship lord Rama to sustain

marriage.

Can you re-check the conclusion of " fasting on

wednesday " .

thanks

angel

--- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses

> the next question

> ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra from

> lagna or is it in a

> kendra from Moon?

> Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in

> your case, it should be a

> Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning here

> is also at variance.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

>

> >

> > Respected Swee Chan ,

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from

> UL

> > (SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

> > 1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

> > 2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

> > 3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

> > Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

> > rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for

> pointing

> > it out.

> >

> > Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in

> same

> > bhava with moon and venus.

> >

> > Depositor is venus.

> >

> > Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of

> the

> > 2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

> > marriage.

> >

> > Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

> > debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama

> (vishnu

> > form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

> >

> > thanks

> > Angel

> >

> > --- Swee Chan <sweechan

> <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:

> >

> >> >

> >> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >> >

> >> > Dear Angel,

> >> > Namaste

> >> >

> >> > How can a debilitated planet not get any

> aspect? Is

> >> > Jupiter in debility?

> >> > Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> >> > drishti?

> >> > I don¹t think anyone has suggested the worship

> of

> >> > the UL lord, but

> >> > worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance

> to

> >> > any kind of situation.

> >> > This is because UL is the external stimulus

> that one

> >> > seeks to effect inner

> >> > happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of

> joy

> >> > in one¹s Ishta Devata,

> >> > will bring these two polarities together

> regardless

> >> > of external

> >> > circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand

> the

> >> > Atma.

> >> >

> >> > Love,

> >> >

> >> > Swee

> >> >

> >> > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel "

> <angelgoel

> >> <angelgoel%40> >

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Hi all

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain

> marriage.If

> >>> > > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd

> from UL

> >> > is

> >>> > > debilitated,it causes problems in married

> life-may

> >> > be

> >>> > > separation also.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL

> does not

> >>> > > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND

> its lord

> >> > is

> >>> > > debilitated/neech,does that means that

> marriage

> >> > will

> >>> > > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL

> are

> >> > empty

> >>> > > houses.Do we have any remedy for such

> situation

> >> > also.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in

> both

> >> > husband

> >>> > > and wife horroscope. What if one has

> problems in

> >>> > > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL

> and

> >> > 2nd

> >>> > > from UL planets and houses.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for

> sustainence of

> >>> > > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet?

> It is

> >> > said

> >>> > > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from

> UL

> >> > lord

> >>> > > and deduce the form of UL deity by the

> planet

> >> > present

> >>> > > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer

> sign

> >> > whose

> >>> > > lord is moon. This means that worship

> parvati for

> >>> > > males. AND if it is female-chart then she

> must

> >> > worship

> >>> > > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is

> occupied by

> >> > Mars

> >>> > > which means kartikeya also. So that means

> worship

> >>> > > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females?

> Please

> >>> > > confirm this part.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > thanks

> >>> > > Angel

> >>> > >

> >> >

> >

>

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February 21, 2007

Respected Swee Chan Ji

Namaste

Thanks for reply. You replied -

> This chart requires more than worshipping the 2nd

> from UL... and the

> alternative would worship (bhakti) of the lord in

> the 5th from Saturn. As

> Jupiter aspects it, then it is a Vishnu form. A

> sudarshan kavacha is more

> like it with the curse from Saturn and Mars.

5th from saturn is sagitarius-sign who is lorded by

jupiter. So which vishu-form of god is to be

worshipped ? Is it Vamanadeva ?

Please confirm.

thanks

angel

--- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> Now it's a bit clearer, it is the impact of a

> malefic in the 2nd from UL you

> have to worry about. Saturn aspects all three, Venus

> (not a problem as they

> are friends), Sun in marana, perhaps a malefic Moon,

> offer fast on Monday -

> is Moon's longitude stronger or Sun's? Though impact

> is softened somewhat

> due to badhakesh's placement in 12th.

> The Upapada sthana is badhak. At this stage, you'll

> need to decide who is

> the stronger of Vrischikha lagna.

> This chart requires more than worshipping the 2nd

> from UL... and the

> alternative would worship (bhakti) of the lord in

> the 5th from Saturn. As

> Jupiter aspects it, then it is a Vishnu form. A

> sudarshan kavacha is more

> like it with the curse from Saturn and Mars.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/21/07 12:07 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

>

> > Respected Swee Chan ,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > Thanks for reply but I am confused totally by your

> > analysis :-(

> >

> > D1 Chart of female native is :-

> > Asc-Scorpio

> > 1-Mercury

> > 2-

> > 3-

> > 4-

> > 5-ketu

> > 6-

> > 7-

> > 8-jup

> > 9-mars (debilitated) <--- Upapada Lagna

> > 10-saturn

> > 11-rahu

> > 12-moon,venus(strong),sun(debilitated)

> >

> > Lord of Upapada Lagna (Cancer sign) is MOON which

> > means fasting on mondays. Deity to be worshipped

> for

> > marriage-sustainence is male-form of vishu of SUN

> (leo

> > sign) which is Lord Rama. In this case,Sun is

> > debilitated so need to worship lord Rama to

> sustain

> > marriage.

> >

> > Can you re-check the conclusion of " fasting on

> > wednesday " .

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> > --- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>

> >> Dear Angel,

> >> Namaste

> >>

> >> What happens if the sign Libra is empty which

> poses

> >> the next question

> >> ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra

> from

> >> lagna or is it in a

> >> kendra from Moon?

> >> Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in

> >> your case, it should be a

> >> Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning

> here

> >> is also at variance.

> >>

> >> Love,

> >>

> >> Swee

> >>

> >> On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

> >>

> >>>

> >>> Respected Swee Chan ,

> >>>

> >>> Hello

> >>>

> >>> You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from

> >> UL

> >>> (SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

> >>> 1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

> >>> 2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

> >>> 3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

> >>> Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive

> any

> >>> rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for

> >> pointing

> >>> it out.

> >>>

> >>> Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in

> >> same

> >>> bhava with moon and venus.

> >>>

> >>> Depositor is venus.

> >>>

> >>> Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of

> >> the

> >>> 2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence

> of

> >>> marriage.

> >>>

> >>> Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

> >>> debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama

> >> (vishnu

> >>> form for sun) is to be done and fasting on

> Monday.

> >>>

> >>> thanks

> >>> Angel

> >>>

> >>> --- Swee Chan <sweechan

> >> <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Dear Angel,

> >>>>> Namaste

> >>>>>

> >>>>> How can a debilitated planet not get any

> >> aspect? Is

> >>>>> Jupiter in debility?

> >>>>> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> >>>>> drishti?

> >>>>> I don¹t think anyone has suggested the worship

> >> of

> >>>>> the UL lord, but

> >>>>> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance

> >> to

> >>>>> any kind of situation.

> >>>>> This is because UL is the external stimulus

> >> that one

> >>>>> seeks to effect inner

> >>>>> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of

> >> joy

> >>>>> in one¹s Ishta Devata,

> >>>>> will bring these two polarities together

> >> regardless

> >>>>> of external

> >>>>> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand

> >> the

> >>>>> Atma.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Love,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Swee

> >>>>>

> >>>>> On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel "

> >> <angelgoel

> >>>> <angelgoel%40> >

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Hi all

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain

> >> marriage.If

> >>>>>>> malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd

> >> from UL

> >>>>> is

> >>>>>>> debilitated,it causes problems in married

> >> life-may

> >>>>> be

> >>>>>>> separation also.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL

> >> does not

> >>>>>>> receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND

>

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February 21, 2007

!Om Gurave Namah! Dear Swee ji, Namaskar! I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage. Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL? Warm regards,PranavSwee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Angel,Namaste What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from Moon? Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance. Love,SweeOn 2/20/07 7:16 PM, "angel" <angelgoel > Respected Swee Chan ,HelloYou are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL(SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-1. Jupiter - 5th aspect2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect3. Saturn - 3rd aspectActually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive anyrashi drishti and i got

confused. thanks for pointingit out.Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in samebhava with moon and venus. Depositor is venus.Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence ofmarriage.Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which isdebilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnuform for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.thanksAngel--- Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Angel,> Namaste> > How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect? Is> Jupiter in debility?> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi> drishti?> I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of> the UL lord, but> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring

sustenance to> any kind of situation.> This is because UL is the external stimulus that one> seeks to effect inner> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy> in one’s Ishta Devata,> will bring these two polarities together regardless> of external> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the> Atma.> > Love,> > Swee> > > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, "angel" <angelgoel <angelgoel%40> >> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all> > > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If> > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL> is> > debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may> be> > separation also.> > > >

(1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not> > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord> is> > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage> will> > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are> empty> > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation> also.> > > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both> husband> > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in> > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and> 2nd> > from UL planets and houses.> > > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of> > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is> said> > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL> lord> > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet> present> > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer

sign> whose> > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for> > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must> worship> > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by> Mars> > which means kartikeya also. So that means worship> > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please> > confirm this part.> > > > thanks> > Angel> > > > > >>________> > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn> something new> > http://in.answers./> > > > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you

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February 21, 2007

Hi Pranav Ji

Sorry for coming in between.

When marriage is getting delayed,fasting on UL day.

After marriage,to sustain it,pray to lord of

2nd-from-UL.

thanks

angel

--- sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51 wrote:

> !Om Gurave Namah!

>

> Dear Swee ji, Namaskar!

>

> I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or

> getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of

> Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship

> 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage.

>

> Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe

> UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL?

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses

> the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it

> in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from

> Moon?

> Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in

> your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a

> Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel " <angelgoelRespected Swee Chan ,

>

> Hello

>

> You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL

> (SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

> 1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

> 2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

> 3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

> Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

> rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for

> pointing

> it out.

>

> Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same

> bhava with moon and venus.

>

> Depositor is venus.

>

> Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the

> 2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

> marriage.

>

> Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

> debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu

> form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

>

> thanks

> Angel

>

> --- Swee Chan <sweechan

> <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:

>

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Angel,

> > Namaste

> >

> > How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect?

> Is

> > Jupiter in debility?

> > Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> > drishti?

> > I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of

> > the UL lord, but

> > worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to

> > any kind of situation.

> > This is because UL is the external stimulus that

> one

> > seeks to effect inner

> > happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy

> > in one’s Ishta Devata,

> > will bring these two polarities together

> regardless

> > of external

> > circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the

> > Atma.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

> <angelgoel%40> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> > > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from

> UL

> > is

> > > debilitated,it causes problems in married

> life-may

> > be

> > > separation also.

> > >

> > > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does

> not

> > > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its

> lord

> > is

> > > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage

> > will

> > > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are

> > empty

> > > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation

> > also.

> > >

> > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both

> > husband

> > > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> > > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and

> > 2nd

> > > from UL planets and houses.

> > >

> > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence

> of

> > > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It

> is

> > said

> > > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL

> > lord

> > > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet

> > present

> > > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign

> > whose

> > > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati

> for

> > > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must

> > worship

> > > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied

> by

> > Mars

> > > which means kartikeya also. So that means

> worship

> > > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females?

> Please

> > > confirm this part.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Angel

> > >

> >

>

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February 21, 2007

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Pranav,

Namaste

Fast on the days lorded by UL lord. If the day that you are offering fast happens to fall in a particular pure tithi in a particular month that please a certain aspect of His/Hers, you’ll get the most blessings out of it.

The are so many vratas that one can offer in the 29.5 tithis in a month. Take your pick. Offering a fast on the day of the week is more on the gross level to appease that graha that is causing the affliction.

For a delayed marriage, the rite of kumbha vivaha is the advice.

Love,

Swee

On 2/21/07 6:46 PM, " sushmagupta51 " <sushmagupta51

!Om Gurave Namah!

Dear Swee ji, Namaskar!

I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage.

Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL?

Warm regards,

Pranav

Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Angel,

Namaste

What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from Moon?

Fastin! g is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance.

Love,

Swee

On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel " <angelgoel

Respected Swee Chan ,

Hello

You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL

(SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for pointing

it out.

Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same

bhava with moon and venus.

Depositor is venus.

Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the

2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

marriage.

Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu

form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

thanks

Angel

--- Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Angel,

> Namaste

>

> How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect? Is

> Jupiter in debility?

> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> drishti?

> I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of

> the UL lord, but

> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to

> any kind of situation.

> This is because UL is the external stimulus that one

> seeks to effect inner

> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy

> in one’s Ishta Devata,

> will bring these two polarities together regardless

> of external

> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the

> Atma.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel " <angelgoel <angelgoel%40> >

>

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL

> is

> > debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may

> be

> > separation also.

> >

> > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not

> > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord

> is

> > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage

> will

> > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are

> empty

> > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation

> also.

> >

> > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both

> husband

> > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and

> 2nd

> > from UL planets and houses.

> >

> > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of

> > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is

> said

> > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL

> lord

> > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet

> present

> > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign

> whose

> > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for

> > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must

> worship

> > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by

> Mars

> > which means kartikeya also. So that means worship

> > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please

> > confirm this part.

> >

> > thanks

> > Angel

> >

>

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February 22, 2007

!Om Gurave Namah! Dear Swee ji and Angel, Namaskar! Thank you for the email! There is the confusion again Jaimin Sutra says: "...marriage in doldrums .... advice fasting on the day of UL" it doesnt talk about worshiping the 2nd lord from UL. My interpretation of Marriage in doldrum that it is difficult to sustain it. Again I may be wrong. Swee ji, can you please help clarify the doubt? Warm regards, Pranavangel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Pranav JiSorry for coming in between.When marriage is getting delayed,fasting on UL day.After marriage,to sustain it,pray to lord

of2nd-from-UL.thanksangel--- sushmagupta51 wrote:> !Om Gurave Namah!> > Dear Swee ji, Namaskar! > > I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or> getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of> Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship> 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage. > > Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe> UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL?> > Warm regards,> Pranav> > > Swee Chan wrote:> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Angel,> Namaste> > What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses> the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it> in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from> Moon? > Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in> your case, it

should be a Wednesday and not on a> Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance. > > Love,> > Swee> > > On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, "angel" > > > > > > Respected Swee Chan ,> > Hello> > You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL> (SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-> 1. Jupiter - 5th aspect> 2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect> 3. Saturn - 3rd aspect> Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any> rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for> pointing> it out.> > Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same> bhava with moon and venus. > > Depositor is venus.> > Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the> 2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of> marriage.> >

Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is> debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu> form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.> > thanks> Angel> > --- Swee Chan > > wrote:> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Angel,> > Namaste> > > > How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect?> Is> > Jupiter in debility?> > Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi> > drishti?> > I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of> > the UL lord, but> > worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to> > any kind of situation.> > This is because UL is the external stimulus that> one> > seeks to effect inner> > happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy>

> in one’s Ishta Devata,> > will bring these two polarities together> regardless> > of external> > circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the> > Atma.> > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, "angel" > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all> > > > > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If> > > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from> UL> > is> > > debilitated,it causes problems in married> life-may> > be> > > separation also.> > > > > > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does> not> > > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND

its> lord> > is> > > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage> > will> > > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are> > empty> > > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation> > also.> > > > > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both> > husband> > > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in> > > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and> > 2nd> > > from UL planets and houses.> > > > > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence> of> > > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It> is> > said> > > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL> > lord> > > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet> > present> > > in UL. For example

--> Suppose UL is cancer sign> > whose> > > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati> for> > > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must> > worship> > > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied> by> > Mars> > > which means kartikeya also. So that means> worship> > > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females?> Please> > > confirm this part.> > > > > > thanks> > > Angel> > > > > > > > >> >>________> > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn> > something new> > > http://in.answers./> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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February 23, 2007

Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

If you donate regularly to charity on the day signified by the UL lord

it helps to sustain the marriage, this is what Sanjay ji has taught in

one of his classes.In addition of course 2L from UL is to be

propitiated.

Hope it helps

Ragards

Sharat

sohamsa , sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurave Namah!

>

> Dear Swee ji and Angel, Namaskar!

>

> Thank you for the email! There is the confusion again

>

> Jaimin Sutra says: " ...marriage in doldrums .... advice fasting on

the day of UL " it doesnt talk about worshiping the 2nd lord from UL.

My interpretation of Marriage in doldrum that it is difficult to

sustain it. Again I may be wrong.

>

February 24, 2007

I was suggested by Sanjay ji exactly the same remedy.

Also, I found the same reference in notes compiled by Narasimha's

teachings by their students.

sri

sohamsa , sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51

wrote:

>

> !Om Gurave Namah!

>

> Dear Swee ji and Angel, Namaskar!

>

> Thank you for the email! There is the confusion again

>

> Jaimin Sutra says: " ...marriage in doldrums .... advice fasting

on the day of UL " it doesnt talk about worshiping the 2nd lord from

UL. My interpretation of Marriage in doldrum that it is difficult

to sustain it. Again I may be wrong.

>

> Swee ji, can you please help clarify the doubt?

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> angel <angelgoel wrote:

> Hi Pranav Ji

>

> Sorry for coming in between.

>

> When marriage is getting delayed,fasting on UL day.

> After marriage,to sustain it,pray to lord of

> 2nd-from-UL.

>

> thanks

> angel

>

> --- sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> > !Om Gurave Namah!

> >

> > Dear Swee ji, Namaskar!

> >

> > I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or

> > getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of

> > Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship

> > 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage.

> >

> > Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe

> > UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL?

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > Swee Chan wrote:

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Angel,

> > Namaste

> >

> > What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses

> > the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it

> > in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from

> > Moon?

> > Fasting is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in

> > your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a

> > Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> > On 2/20/07 7:16 PM, " angel "

> >

> > Respected Swee Chan ,

> >

> > Hello

> >

> > You are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL

> > (SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-

> > 1. Jupiter - 5th aspect

> > 2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect

> > 3. Saturn - 3rd aspect

> > Actually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive any

> > rashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for

> > pointing

> > it out.

> >

> > Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in same

> > bhava with moon and venus.

> >

> > Depositor is venus.

> >

> > Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the

> > 2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence of

> > marriage.

> >

> > Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which is

> > debilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnu

> > form for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.

> >

> > thanks

> > Angel

> >

> > --- Swee Chan > > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Angel,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect?

> > Is

> > > Jupiter in debility?

> > > Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi

> > > drishti?

> > > I don't think anyone has suggested the worship of

> > > the UL lord, but

> > > worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to

> > > any kind of situation.

> > > This is because UL is the external stimulus that

> > one

> > > seeks to effect inner

> > > happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy

> > > in one's Ishta Devata,

> > > will bring these two polarities together

> > regardless

> > > of external

> > > circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the

> > > Atma.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > >

> > > Swee

> > >

> > > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, " angel " > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> > > > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from

> > UL

> > > is

> > > > debilitated,it causes problems in married

> > life-may

> > > be

> > > > separation also.

> > > >

> > > > (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does

> > not

> > > > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its

> > lord

> > > is

> > > > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage

> > > will

> > > > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are

> > > empty

> > > > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation

> > > also.

> > > >

> > > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both

> > > husband

> > > > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> > > > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and

> > > 2nd

> > > > from UL planets and houses.

> > > >

> > > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence

> > of

> > > > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It

> > is

> > > said

> > > > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL

> > > lord

> > > > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet

> > > present

> > > > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign

> > > whose

> > > > lord is moon. This means that worship parvati

> > for

> > > > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must

> > > worship

> > > > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied

> > by

> > > Mars

> > > > which means kartikeya also. So that means

> > worship

> > > > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females?

> > Please

> > > > confirm this part.

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > Angel

> > > >

> > >

> >

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Pranav, Regarding delayed marriages, there are many powerful Mantras like Swayamvara Kala Parvati Mantra, Katyayani Mantra, Chanting of Mangala Chandika Stotra,Rukmini Vallabha Mantra etc. There are a lot of Mantras depending on the afflictions on the 7th house/7th lord in Rashi/Navamsha. Kumbha Vivaha or marriage with Arka tree will be performed for a Kuja or Mangal Dosha person after the marriage is fixed. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Pranav,NamasteFast on the days lorded by UL lord. If the day that you are offering fast happens to fall in a particular pure tithi in a particular month that please a certain aspect of His/Hers, you’ll get the most blessings out of it.The are so many vratas that one can offer in the 29.5 tithis in a month. Take your pick. Offering a fast on the day of the week is more on the gross level to appease that graha that is causing the affliction.For a delayed marriage, the rite of kumbha vivaha is the advice.

Love,SweeOn 2/21/07 6:46 PM, "sushmagupta51" <sushmagupta51 > !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Swee ji, Namaskar! I have read in case Marriage is in doldrums or getting delayed, advice fasting on the day of Upapad. Lately I have read that one needs to worship 2nd lord from UL to sustain the marriage. Can you shed light when does one want to prescribe UL fasting vs worshiping 2nd lord from UL? Warm regards,PranavSwee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Angel,Namaste What happens if the sign Libra is empty which poses the next question ...and where is your Venus? Is it in a kendra from lagna or is it in a kendra from Moon? Fastin! g is offered for the Lord of Upapada and in your case, it should be a Wednesday and not on a Monday so your reasoning here is also at variance. Love,SweeOn 2/20/07 7:16 PM, "angel" <angelgoel > Respected Swee Chan ,HelloYou are right - The debilitated lord of 2nd from UL(SUN) receives aspect from three planets:-1. Jupiter - 5th aspect2. Debilitated mars - 4th aspect3. Saturn - 3rd aspectActually 2nd from UL (saturn) does not receive anyrashi drishti and i got confused. thanks for

pointingit out.Note that SUN (2nd from UL LORD) is present in samebhava with moon and venus. Depositor is venus.Fasting is recommended on UL day and worship of the2nd from UL lord is recommended for sustainence ofmarriage.Since in my case,2nd from UL is SUN which isdebilitated in Libra-sign so worship of Rama (vishnuform for sun) is to be done and fasting on Monday.thanksAngel--- Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac.com> > wrote:> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Angel,> Namaste> > How can a debilitated planet not get any aspect? Is> Jupiter in debility?> Then who is the dispositor? What about rashi> drishti?> I don’t think anyone has suggested the worship of> the UL lord, but> worshipping Ishta Devata will bring sustenance to>

any kind of situation.> This is because UL is the external stimulus that one> seeks to effect inner> happiness. By resting in the inner feelings of joy> in one’s Ishta Devata,> will bring these two polarities together regardless> of external> circumstances for it is Him/Her who understand the> Atma.> > Love,> > Swee> > > On 2/19/07 7:56 PM, "angel" <angelgoel <angelgoel%40> >> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all> > > > 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If> > malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL> is> > debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may> be> > separation also.> > > > (1) My question is :

What if 2nd from UL does not> > receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord> is> > debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage> will> > have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are> empty> > houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation> also.> > > > (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both> husband> > and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in> > horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and> 2nd> > from UL planets and houses.> > > > (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of> > marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is> said> > that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL> lord> > and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet> present> > in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign> whose>

> lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for> > males. AND if it is female-chart then she must> worship> > lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by> Mars> > which means kartikeya also. So that means worship> > Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please> > confirm this part.> > > > thanks> > Angel> > > > > >>________> > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn> something new> > http://in.answers./> > > > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something

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