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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I consider it auspicious that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There are innumerable Kali mantras, of which the most well known is the 22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to be spiritually extremely potent as they are moksha granting mantras. Like the Baais Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath Temple. I am writing down a few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras. Meanwhile I am attaching a file with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio Font and Sanskrit 99.

 

1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely powerful. Can be chanted safely by anyone)

2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PMsohamsa Subject: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some simple Goddess Kalika Mantras which people may chant.

 

Thanks

 

Vijay Kumar

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Sarbani, can we chant no.2 mantra without Om, in

such case it will have 21 aksara. Should it be more

for Dharma raising and other 9th bhava karakatwas?

Thank you in advance, Bojan

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani

wrote:

 

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I

> consider it auspicious

> that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There

> are innumerable Kali

> mantras, of which the most well known is the 22

> akshara Dakshina Kali

> mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to

> be spiritually

> extremely potent as they are moksha granting

> mantras. Like the Baais

> Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath

> Temple. I am writing down a

> few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.

> Meanwhile I am attaching a file

> with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma

> Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio

> Font and Sanskrit 99.

>

> 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely

> powerful. Can be chanted

> safely by anyone)

> 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine

> kalike krim krim hum hum

> hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

> 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar]

> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM

> sohamsa

> Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

>

> If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some

> simple Goddess Kalika

> Mantras which people may chant.

>

> Thanks

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

>

>

 

 

Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

http://www.jatavedas.com

 

 

 

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Dear Mrs Sarbani,

 

Thanks for the info on Goddess Kalika mantras.

 

I had asked you because your hold on the subject of mantras. Though, asked long ago, it appered on the list on Shri Thakur's Tithi Pooja day, which certainly is an auspicious omen.

 

Recently I read Devi Bhagwat and somehow, I am attached to Goddess Kalika, that was my inner driving force to ask you the mantras for Her.

 

Thanks for your efforts and time. If time permits, please elaborate more on Her sometimes !

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Monday, February 19, 2007 2:54 PM

RE: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I consider it auspicious that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There are innumerable Kali mantras, of which the most well known is the 22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to be spiritually extremely potent as they are moksha granting mantras. Like the Baais Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath Temple. I am writing down a few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras. Meanwhile I am attaching a file with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio Font and Sanskrit 99.

 

1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely powerful. Can be chanted safely by anyone)

2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PMsohamsa Subject: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some simple Goddess Kalika Mantras which people may chant.

 

Thanks

 

Vijay Kumar

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan,

 

I see from where your logic is coming. But try to look at it another way. When you do such a high level mantra, like the 22 akshara Dakshina Kalika, or the 24 akshara Gayatri, or the ashtakshari Narayana or the dwadasakshari Vasudeva mantra, you are not merely activating certainly bhavas or planets in your chart; you are catapulting your spiritual energy in a totally different orbit, which will open up things inside you; your chakras, your intellect, your higher intuitive powers and eventually...and hopefully...you heart chakra. These mantras affect your life in every way, including the 9th bhava karakatwas like dharma,which is just a small aspect. These also open up doors to material benefits as all aspects of your life become smooth of the blessings of the devata is bestowed upon you. But therein lies the catch. Its not so easy to get that blessing.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid] Monday, February 19, 2007 4:39 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarbani, can we chant no.2 mantra without Om, insuch case it will have 21 aksara. Should it be morefor Dharma raising and other 9th bhava karakatwas?Thank you in advance, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>wrote:> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Vijay,> > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it auspicious> that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There> are innumerable Kali> mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina Kali> mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to> be spiritually> extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing down a> few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am attaching a file> with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio> Font and Sanskrit 99. > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be chanted> safely by anyone)> 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim hum hum> hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> sohamsa > Kali puja> > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some> simple Goddess Kalika> Mantras which people may chant.> > Thanks> > Vijay Kumar> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Don't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.http://autos./new_cars.html

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Hare Ram Krishna

Dear Sarbani thank you very much. My question arose

because if I remember correctly in Vedic Remedies it

is there without Om, so I thought there is some rule.

Thank you for explanation, Bojan

Hari OM Tat Sat

--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani

wrote:

 

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Bojan,

>

> I see from where your logic is coming. But try to

> look at it another way.

> When you do such a high level mantra, like the 22

> akshara Dakshina Kalika,

> or the 24 akshara Gayatri, or the ashtakshari

> Narayana or the dwadasakshari

> Vasudeva mantra, you are not merely activating

> certainly bhavas or planets

> in your chart; you are catapulting your spiritual

> energy in a totally

> different orbit, which will open up things inside

> you; your chakras, your

> intellect, your higher intuitive powers and

> eventually...and hopefully...you

> heart chakra. These mantras affect your life in

> every way, including the 9th

> bhava karakatwas like dharma,which is just a small

> aspect. These also open

> up doors to material benefits as all aspects of your

> life become smooth of

> the blessings of the devata is bestowed upon you.

> But therein lies the

> catch. Its not so easy to get that blessing.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid]

> Monday, February 19, 2007 4:39 PM

> sohamsa

> RE: Kali puja

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Sarbani, can we chant no.2 mantra without Om,

> in

> such case it will have 21 aksara. Should it be more

> for Dharma raising and other 9th bhava karakatwas?

> Thank you in advance, Bojan

> Hari Om Tat Sat

> --- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani@srijagannat

> <sarbani%40.org> h.org>

> wrote:

>

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I

> > consider it auspicious

> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.

> There

> > are innumerable Kali

> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22

> > akshara Dakshina Kali

> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said

> to

> > be spiritually

> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting

> > mantras. Like the Baais

> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath

> > Temple. I am writing down a

> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.

> > Meanwhile I am attaching a file

> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma

> > Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio

> > Font and Sanskrit 99.

> >

> > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely

> > powerful. Can be chanted

> > safely by anyone)

> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine

> > kalike krim krim hum hum

> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com

> <http://sarbani.

> <http://sarbani.com/> com/>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT)

> <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in>

> ernet.in]

> > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM

> > sohamsa@

> <sohamsa%40> .com

> > Kali puja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

> >

> > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide

> some

> > simple Goddess Kalika

> > Mantras which people may chant.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Vijay Kumar

> >

> >

> >

>

> Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

> http://www.jataveda <http://www.jatavedas.com> s.com

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

 

 

Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

http://www.jatavedas.com

 

 

 

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sarbani,

I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra. Doesn`t it supose

to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha)? As for the

effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level), i couldn`t agree

more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings the energy of

mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th house, being the

Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete dettachment, perfect Karma

Yogi?

Sincerely,

Tijana

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani

wrote:

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I consider it

auspicious

> that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There are innumerable

Kali

> mantras, of which the most well known is the 22 akshara Dakshina

Kali

> mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to be spiritually

> extremely potent as they are moksha granting mantras. Like the Baais

> Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath Temple. I am writing

down a

> few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras. Meanwhile I am

attaching a file

> with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana in UR

Palladio

> Font and Sanskrit 99.

>

> 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely powerful. Can be

chanted

> safely by anyone)

> 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim

hum hum

> hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

> 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar]

> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM

> sohamsa

> Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

>

> If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some simple Goddess

Kalika

> Mantras which people may chant.

>

> Thanks

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Tijana you are right for the mantra because there

is missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies there

is this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sides

and also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyana

mantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining all

the knowledge and siddhis, but in transliteration

there is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if you

read mantra in sanskrit there you can see three times

Krim.

I am not sure if this will be visible...but here is

it:

 

! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailako

k`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.

 

Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalike

kreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.

 

My another question for Sarbani is :

Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana

(depending on native of course), or both can be

adviced simultaniously?

Best wishes, Bojan

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic

wrote:

 

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Sarbani,

> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.

> Doesn`t it supose

> to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum

> hum hrim hrim

> dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

> svaha)? As for the

> effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),

> i couldn`t agree

> more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings

> the energy of

> mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th

> house, being the

> Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete

> dettachment, perfect Karma

> Yogi?

> Sincerely,

> Tijana

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar

> Rath " <sarbani

> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I

> consider it

> auspicious

> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.

> There are innumerable

> Kali

> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22

> akshara Dakshina

> Kali

> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said

> to be spiritually

> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting

> mantras. Like the Baais

> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath

> Temple. I am writing

> down a

> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.

> Meanwhile I am

> attaching a file

> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma

> Vaivarta Purana in UR

> Palladio

> > Font and Sanskrit 99.

> >

> > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely

> powerful. Can be

> chanted

> > safely by anyone)

> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine

> kalike krim krim

> hum hum

> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar]

> > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM

> > sohamsa

> > Kali puja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

> >

> > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide

> some simple Goddess

> Kalika

> > Mantras which people may chant.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Vijay Kumar

> >

>

>

>

 

 

Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

http://www.jatavedas.com

 

 

 

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan and Tijana,

 

I am glad that you have raised these questions as it is apparent there are some confusions in your minds.

Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read my earlier mail to Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are missing or not comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop looking at the 22 aksharas as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22 steps which lead you to the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what this mantra is all about. When you understand the four variations to the gayatri chhanda, it will become all the more clearer. This mantra is all about gyana; that very rare gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and liberate you. In the process, it will give you a lot of other things as well. With such mantrs you DO NOT add and subtract bijas. They are complete by themselves.

The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA is a different mantra and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to the 22 akshara one. It just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim hum hum krim krim krim is different. The second set of bijas are similar. The all important svaha shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a different mantra while the 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is gyana that you are looking for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra and you will get the complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of Kali can give such high gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras for worshipping Kali, for not only gyana but for all things in life.

There are other mantras to which we add and subtract bijas; but we do not do that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21 akshara mantra is a totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya. As Sanjayji reminds all the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it does not contain all these detailed explanations.

I hope slowly these confusions will dispel.

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Tijana you are right for the mantra because thereis missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies thereis this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sidesand also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyanamantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining allthe knowledge and siddhis, but in transliterationthere is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if youread mantra in sanskrit there you can see three timesKrim.I am not sure if this will be visible...but here isit:! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailakok`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalikekreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.My another question for Sarbani is : Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana(depending on native of course), or both can beadviced simultaniously? Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sarbani,> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.> Doesn`t it supose > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum> hum hrim hrim > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha)? As for the > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),> i couldn`t agree > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings> the energy of > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th> house, being the > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete> dettachment, perfect Karma > Yogi?> Sincerely,> Tijana> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar> Rath" <sarbani > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it > auspicious> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.> There are innumerable > Kali> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina > Kali> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said> to be spiritually> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing > down a> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am > attaching a file> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR > Palladio> > Font and Sanskrit 99. > > > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be > chanted> > safely by anyone)> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim > hum hum> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> > sohamsa > > Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide> some simple Goddess > Kalika> > Mantras which people may chant.> > > > Thanks> > > > Vijay Kumar> >> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my ignorance, on your statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the Om.

 

The mantra you gave was :

 

Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This has 22 aksharas counted with Om.

 

The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha . This has 22 akshara without Om.

 

Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher knowledge ?

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan and Tijana,

 

I am glad that you have raised these questions as it is apparent there are some confusions in your minds.

Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read my earlier mail to Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are missing or not comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop looking at the 22 aksharas as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22 steps which lead you to the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what this mantra is all about. When you understand the four variations to the gayatri chhanda, it will become all the more clearer. This mantra is all about gyana; that very rare gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and liberate you. In the process, it will give you a lot of other things as well. With such mantrs you DO NOT add and subtract bijas. They are complete by themselves.

The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA is a different mantra and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to the 22 akshara one. It just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim hum hum krim krim krim is different. The second set of bijas are similar. The all important svaha shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a different mantra while the 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is gyana that you are looking for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra and you will get the complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of Kali can give such high gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras for worshipping Kali, for not only gyana but for all things in life.

There are other mantras to which we add and subtract bijas; but we do not do that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21 akshara mantra is a totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya. As Sanjayji reminds all the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it does not contain all these detailed explanations.

I hope slowly these confusions will dispel.

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid ] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Tijana you are right for the mantra because thereis missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies thereis this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sidesand also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyanamantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining allthe knowledge and siddhis, but in transliterationthere is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if youread mantra in sanskrit there you can see three timesKrim.I am not sure if this will be visible...but here isit:! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailakok`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalikekreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.My another question for Sarbani is : Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana(depending on native of course), or both can beadviced simultaniously? Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sarbani,> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.> Doesn`t it supose > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum> hum hrim hrim > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha)? As for the > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),> i couldn`t agree > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings> the energy of > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th> house, being the > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete> dettachment, perfect Karma > Yogi?> Sincerely,> Tijana> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar> Rath" <sarbani > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it > auspicious> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.> There are innumerable > Kali> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina > Kali> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said> to be spiritually> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing > down a> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am > attaching a file> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR > Palladio> > Font and Sanskrit 99. > > > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be > chanted> > safely by anyone)> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim > hum hum> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> > sohamsa > > Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide> some simple Goddess > Kalika> > Mantras which people may chant.> > > > Thanks> > > > Vijay Kumar> >> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not even noticed it. That was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You need not say the om. Saying it silently is optional. As there is confusion I wrote it in the bracket.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my ignorance, on your statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the Om.

 

The mantra you gave was :

 

Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This has 22 aksharas counted with Om.

 

The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha . This has 22 akshara without Om.

 

Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher knowledge ?

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan and Tijana,

 

I am glad that you have raised these questions as it is apparent there are some confusions in your minds.

Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read my earlier mail to Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are missing or not comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop looking at the 22 aksharas as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22 steps which lead you to the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what this mantra is all about. When you understand the four variations to the gayatri chhanda, it will become all the more clearer. This mantra is all about gyana; that very rare gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and liberate you. In the process, it will give you a lot of other things as well. With such mantrs you DO NOT add and subtract bijas. They are complete by themselves.

The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA is a different mantra and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to the 22 akshara one. It just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim hum hum krim krim krim is different. The second set of bijas are similar. The all important svaha shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a different mantra while the 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is gyana that you are looking for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra and you will get the complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of Kali can give such high gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras for worshipping Kali, for not only gyana but for all things in life.

There are other mantras to which we add and subtract bijas; but we do not do that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21 akshara mantra is a totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya. As Sanjayji reminds all the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it does not contain all these detailed explanations.

I hope slowly these confusions will dispel.

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid ] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Tijana you are right for the mantra because thereis missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies thereis this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sidesand also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyanamantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining allthe knowledge and siddhis, but in transliterationthere is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if youread mantra in sanskrit there you can see three timesKrim.I am not sure if this will be visible...but here isit:! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailakok`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalikekreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.My another question for Sarbani is : Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana(depending on native of course), or both can beadviced simultaniously? Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sarbani,> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.> Doesn`t it supose > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum> hum hrim hrim > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha)? As for the > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),> i couldn`t agree > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings> the energy of > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th> house, being the > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete> dettachment, perfect Karma > Yogi?> Sincerely,> Tijana> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar> Rath" <sarbani > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it > auspicious> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.> There are innumerable > Kali> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina > Kali> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said> to be spiritually> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing > down a> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am > attaching a file> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR > Palladio> > Font and Sanskrit 99. > > > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be > chanted> > safely by anyone)> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim > hum hum> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> > sohamsa > > Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide> some simple Goddess > Kalika> > Mantras which people may chant.> > > > Thanks> > > > Vijay Kumar> >> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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Dear Mrs Sarbani,

 

Thanks your clarification.

 

Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha.

 

Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of chants every day, total no of chants, when to start-day or night, in shukla or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to start. Kindly pardon for my ignorance.

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not even noticed it. That was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You need not say the om. Saying it silently is optional. As there is confusion I wrote it in the bracket.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my ignorance, on your statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the Om.

 

The mantra you gave was :

 

Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This has 22 aksharas counted with Om.

 

The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha . This has 22 akshara without Om.

 

Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher knowledge ?

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan and Tijana,

 

I am glad that you have raised these questions as it is apparent there are some confusions in your minds.

Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read my earlier mail to Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are missing or not comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop looking at the 22 aksharas as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22 steps which lead you to the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what this mantra is all about. When you understand the four variations to the gayatri chhanda, it will become all the more clearer. This mantra is all about gyana; that very rare gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and liberate you. In the process, it will give you a lot of other things as well. With such mantrs you DO NOT add and subtract bijas. They are complete by themselves.

The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA is a different mantra and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to the 22 akshara one. It just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim hum hum krim krim krim is different. The second set of bijas are similar. The all important svaha shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a different mantra while the 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is gyana that you are looking for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra and you will get the complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of Kali can give such high gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras for worshipping Kali, for not only gyana but for all things in life.

There are other mantras to which we add and subtract bijas; but we do not do that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21 akshara mantra is a totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya. As Sanjayji reminds all the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it does not contain all these detailed explanations.

I hope slowly these confusions will dispel.

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid ] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Tijana you are right for the mantra because thereis missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies thereis this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sidesand also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyanamantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining allthe knowledge and siddhis, but in transliterationthere is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if youread mantra in sanskrit there you can see three timesKrim.I am not sure if this will be visible...but here isit:! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailakok`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalikekreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.My another question for Sarbani is : Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana(depending on native of course), or both can beadviced simultaniously? Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sarbani,> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.> Doesn`t it supose > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum> hum hrim hrim > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha)? As for the > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),> i couldn`t agree > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings> the energy of > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th> house, being the > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete> dettachment, perfect Karma > Yogi?> Sincerely,> Tijana> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar> Rath" <sarbani > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it > auspicious> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.> There are innumerable > Kali> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina > Kali> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said> to be spiritually> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing > down a> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am > attaching a file> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR > Palladio> > Font and Sanskrit 99. > > > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be > chanted> > safely by anyone)> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim > hum hum> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> > sohamsa > > Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide> some simple Goddess > Kalika> > Mantras which people may chant.> > > > Thanks> > > > Vijay Kumar> >> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

I am inundated with work at this moment so I cannot type out the nyasas and dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra Maharnava. An ideal day to start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her days. Choose the tithi over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your round of 108. But I will write a few words on her as you requested earlier the moment I get some breathing time.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs Sarbani,

 

Thanks your clarification.

 

Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha.

 

Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of chants every day, total no of chants, when to start-day or night, in shukla or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to start. Kindly pardon for my ignorance.

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Vijay,

 

Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not even noticed it. That was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You need not say the om. Saying it silently is optional. As there is confusion I wrote it in the bracket.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

 

One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my ignorance, on your statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the Om.

 

The mantra you gave was :

 

Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This has 22 aksharas counted with Om.

 

The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha . This has 22 akshara without Om.

 

Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher knowledge ?

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

sohamsa

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan and Tijana,

 

I am glad that you have raised these questions as it is apparent there are some confusions in your minds.

Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed without counting the om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read my earlier mail to Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are missing or not comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop looking at the 22 aksharas as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22 steps which lead you to the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what this mantra is all about. When you understand the four variations to the gayatri chhanda, it will become all the more clearer. This mantra is all about gyana; that very rare gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and liberate you. In the process, it will give you a lot of other things as well. With such mantrs you DO NOT add and subtract bijas. They are complete by themselves.

The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA is a different mantra and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to the 22 akshara one. It just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim hum hum krim krim krim is different. The second set of bijas are similar. The all important svaha shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a different mantra while the 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is gyana that you are looking for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra and you will get the complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of Kali can give such high gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras for worshipping Kali, for not only gyana but for all things in life.

There are other mantras to which we add and subtract bijas; but we do not do that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21 akshara mantra is a totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya. As Sanjayji reminds all the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it does not contain all these detailed explanations.

I hope slowly these confusions will dispel.

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid ] Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Tijana you are right for the mantra because thereis missed one bija Krim. As per Vedic Remedies thereis this mala mantra with 3 Krim bijas from both sidesand also variation of this mantra - to 21 aksara gyanamantra for worshiping Dakshina Kali for obtaining allthe knowledge and siddhis, but in transliterationthere is mistake, one Krim bija is missed. So if youread mantra in sanskrit there you can see three timesKrim.I am not sure if this will be visible...but here isit:! h`IM h`IM huM huM k`IM k`IM k`IM dxaINao kailakok`IM k`IM k`IM huM huM h`IM h`IM.Om Hrim Hrim Hum Hum Krim Krim Krim Dakshina Kalikekreem Kreem Hum Hum Hrim Hrim.My another question for Sarbani is : Should we advice first mala mantra and then gyana(depending on native of course), or both can beadviced simultaniously? Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sarbani,> I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra.> Doesn`t it supose > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum> hum hrim hrim > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha)? As for the > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level),> i couldn`t agree > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings> the energy of > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th> house, being the > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete> dettachment, perfect Karma > Yogi?> Sincerely,> Tijana> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar> Rath" <sarbani > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I> consider it > auspicious> > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day.> There are innumerable > Kali> > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22> akshara Dakshina > Kali> > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said> to be spiritually> > extremely potent as they are moksha granting> mantras. Like the Baais> > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath> Temple. I am writing > down a> > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras.> Meanwhile I am > attaching a file> > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma> Vaivarta Purana in UR > Palladio> > Font and Sanskrit 99. > > > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely> powerful. Can be > chanted> > safely by anyone)> > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine> kalike krim krim > hum hum> > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)> > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar] > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM> > sohamsa > > Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide> some simple Goddess > Kalika> > Mantras which people may chant.> > > > Thanks> > > > Vijay Kumar> >> > > Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Sarbani I have question again because it is not

clear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksara

with Om.

But From your mail:

Dear Vijay,

>

> Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not

> even noticed it. That

> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim

> krim hum hum hrim hrim

> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> need not say the om.

There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I am

interested why there is not same number of aksaras

from both sides, and threee times Krim bija from both

sides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA is

also typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit there

is 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. The

mantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place is

the same just here is Om at the beginning, that is

differnent.

Thanks in advance, Bojan

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani

wrote:

 

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> I am inundated with work at this moment so I cannot

> type out the nyasas and

> dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra

> Maharnava. An ideal day to

> start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her

> days. Choose the tithi

> over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your

> round of 108. But I will

> write a few words on her as you requested earlier

> the moment I get some

> breathing time.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar]

> Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs Sarbani,

>

> Thanks your clarification.

>

> Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

> svaha.

>

> Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask

> for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of

> chants every day, total no of chants, when to

> start-day or night, in shukla

> or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to

> start. Kindly pardon

> for my ignorance.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay kumar

>

>

> -

> Sarbani <sarbani

> Sarkar Rath

> sohamsa@

> <sohamsa > .com

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM

> RE: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not

> even noticed it. That

> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim

> krim hum hum hrim hrim

> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> need not say the om. Saying

> it silently is optional. As there is confusion I

> wrote it in the bracket.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar]

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

>

> One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my

> ignorance, on your

> statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22

> aksharas are formed without

> counting the Om.

>

> The mantra you gave was :

>

> Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This

> has 22 aksharas counted

> with Om.

>

>

> The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim svaha . This has 22

> akshara without Om.

>

> Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher

> knowledge ?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

>

> -

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> <sarbani

> sohamsa@

> <sohamsa > .com

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

> RE: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Bojan and Tijana,

> I am glad that you have raised these questions as it

> is apparent there are

> some confusions in your minds.

>

> Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed

> without counting the

> om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read

> my earlier mail to

> Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are

> missing or not

> comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop

> looking at the 22 aksharas

> as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22

> steps which lead you to

> the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what

> this mantra is all about.

> When you understand the four variations to the

> gayatri chhanda, it will

> become all the more clearer. This mantra is all

> about gyana; that very rare

> gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and

> liberate you. In the process,

> it will give you a lot of other things as well. With

> such mantrs you DO NOT

> add and subtract bijas. They are complete by

> themselves.

>

> The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA

> is a different mantra

> and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to

> the 22 akshara one. It

> just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim

> hum hum krim krim krim

> is different. The second set of bijas are similar.

> The all important svaha

> shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a

> different mantra while the

> 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is

> gyana that you are looking

> for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra

> and you will get the

> complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of

> Kali can give such high

> gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras

> for worshipping Kali,

> for not only gyana but for all things in life.

>

> There are other mantras to which we add and subtract

> bijas; but we do not do

> that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21

> akshara mantra is a

> totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya.

> As Sanjayji reminds all

> the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it

> does not contain all

> these detailed explanations.

>

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Dear Bojan,

 

I have given a reply to Vijay. I dont understand why you are so confused.

 

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Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid] Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:31 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarbani I have question again because it is notclear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksarawith Om. But From your mail:Dear Vijay,> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not> even noticed it. That> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim> krim hum hum hrim hrim> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> need not say the om. There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I aminterested why there is not same number of aksarasfrom both sides, and threee times Krim bija from bothsides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA isalso typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit thereis 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. Themantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place isthe same just here is Om at the beginning, that isdiffernent.Thanks in advance, BojanHari Om Tat Sat --- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>wrote:> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Vijay,> > I am inundated with work at this moment so I cannot> type out the nyasas and> dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra> Maharnava. An ideal day to> start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her> days. Choose the tithi> over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your> round of 108. But I will> write a few words on her as you requested earlier> the moment I get some> breathing time. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Dear Mrs Sarbani,> > Thanks your clarification.> > Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha.> > Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask> for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of> chants every day, total no of chants, when to> start-day or night, in shukla> or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to> start. Kindly pardon> for my ignorance.> > Thanks,> > Vijay kumar> > > - > Sarbani <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>> Sarkar Rath > sohamsa@> <sohamsa > .com > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM> RE: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Vijay,> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not> even noticed it. That> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim> krim hum hum hrim hrim> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> need not say the om. Saying> it silently is optional. As there is confusion I> wrote it in the bracket. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com> > > > > > _____ > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my> ignorance, on your> statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22> aksharas are formed without> counting the Om. > > The mantra you gave was : > > Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This> has 22 aksharas counted> with Om.> > > The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim svaha . This has 22> akshara without Om.> > Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher> knowledge ?> > Thanks,> > Vijay Kumar> > > - > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> > sohamsa@> <sohamsa > .com > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM> RE: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Bojan and Tijana, > I am glad that you have raised these questions as it> is apparent there are> some confusions in your minds. > > Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed> without counting the> om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read> my earlier mail to> Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are> missing or not> comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop> looking at the 22 aksharas> as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22> steps which lead you to> the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what> this mantra is all about.> When you understand the four variations to the> gayatri chhanda, it will> become all the more clearer. This mantra is all> about gyana; that very rare> gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and> liberate you. In the process,> it will give you a lot of other things as well. With> such mantrs you DO NOT> add and subtract bijas. They are complete by> themselves. > > The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA> is a different mantra> and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to> the 22 akshara one. It> just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim> hum hum krim krim krim> is different. The second set of bijas are similar.> The all important svaha> shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a> different mantra while the> 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is> gyana that you are looking> for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra> and you will get the> complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of> Kali can give such high> gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras> for worshipping Kali,> for not only gyana but for all things in life.> > There are other mantras to which we add and subtract> bijas; but we do not do> that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21> akshara mantra is a> totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya.> As Sanjayji reminds all> the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it> does not contain all> these detailed explanations. > === message truncated ===Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started.http://mobile./mail

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Bojan,

Namaste

 

Add swaha when you are offering yagna. If you do, then the entire mantra is silent except for swaha.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

On 2/21/07 4:00 PM, " Bojan Vidakovic " <janbovid

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Sarbani I have question again because it is not

clear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksara

with Om.

But From your mail:

Dear Vijay,

>

> Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not

> even noticed it. That

> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim

> krim hum hum hrim hrim

> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> need not say the om.

There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I am

interested why there is not same number of aksaras

from both sides, and threee times Krim bija from both

sides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA is

also typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit there

is 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. The

mantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place is

the same just here is Om at the beginning, that is

differnent.

Thanks in advance, Bojan

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani <sarbani%40.org> >

wrote:

 

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> I am inundated with work at this moment so I cannot

> type out the nyasas and

> dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra

> Maharnava. An ideal day to

> start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her

> days. Choose the tithi

> over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your

> round of 108. But I will

> write a few words on her as you requested earlier

> the moment I get some

> breathing time.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ]

> Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM

> sohamsa <sohamsa%40>

> Re: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs Sarbani,

>

> Thanks your clarification.

>

> Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

> svaha.

>

> Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask

> for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of

> chants every day, total no of chants, when to

> start-day or night, in shukla

> or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to

> start. Kindly pardon

> for my ignorance.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay kumar

>

>

> -

> Sarbani <sarbani <sarbani%40.org> >

> Sarkar Rath

> sohamsa@

> <sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > .com

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM

> RE: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not

> even noticed it. That

> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim

> krim hum hum hrim hrim

> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> need not say the om. Saying

> it silently is optional. As there is confusion I

> wrote it in the bracket.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Vijay Kumar [v_kumar <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ]

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PM

> sohamsa <sohamsa%40>

> Re: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

>

> One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my

> ignorance, on your

> statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22

> aksharas are formed without

> counting the Om.

>

> The mantra you gave was :

>

> Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This

> has 22 aksharas counted

> with Om.

>

>

> The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim

> krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim

> hrim svaha . This has 22

> akshara without Om.

>

> Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher

> knowledge ?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

>

> -

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> <sarbani <sarbani%40.org> >

> sohamsa@

> <sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > .com

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM

> RE: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Bojan and Tijana,

> I am glad that you have raised these questions as it

> is apparent there are

> some confusions in your minds.

>

> Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed

> without counting the

> om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read

> my earlier mail to

> Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are

> missing or not

> comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop

> looking at the 22 aksharas

> as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22

> steps which lead you to

> the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what

> this mantra is all about.

> When you understand the four variations to the

> gayatri chhanda, it will

> become all the more clearer. This mantra is all

> about gyana; that very rare

> gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and

> liberate you. In the process,

> it will give you a lot of other things as well. With

> such mantrs you DO NOT

> add and subtract bijas. They are complete by

> themselves.

>

> The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA

> is a different mantra

> and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to

> the 22 akshara one. It

> just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim

> hum hum krim krim krim

> is different. The second set of bijas are similar.

> The all important svaha

> shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a

> different mantra while the

> 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is

> gyana that you are looking

> for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra

> and you will get the

> complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of

> Kali can give such high

> gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras

> for worshipping Kali,

> for not only gyana but for all things in life.

>

> There are other mantras to which we add and subtract

> bijas; but we do not do

> that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21

> akshara mantra is a

> totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya.

> As Sanjayji reminds all

> the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it

> does not contain all

> these detailed explanations.

>

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Dear Swee,

 

The 22 akshara dakshina kali mantra has does have swaha in the end. The om is incidental, like it is for many mantras, to be said silently in the mind. I dont know what he is confused about.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

http://sarbani.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Swee Chan [sweechan] Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:25 PMSohamsaRe: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Jaya JagannathaDear Bojan,NamasteAdd swaha when you are offering yagna. If you do, then the entire mantra is silent except for swaha.Love,SweeOn 2/21/07 4:00 PM, "Bojan Vidakovic" <janbovid >

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarbani I have question again because it is notclear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksarawith Om. But From your mail:Dear Vijay,> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not> even noticed it. That> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim> krim hum hum hrim hrim> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> need not say the om. There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I aminterested why there is not same number of aksarasfrom both sides, and threee times Krim bija from bothsides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA isalso typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit thereis 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. Themantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place isthe same just here is Om at the beginning, that isdiffernent.Thanks in advance, BojanHari Om Tat Sat --- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org <sarbani%40.org> >wrote:> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Vijay,> > I am inundated with work at this moment so I cannot> type out the nyasas and> dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra> Maharnava. An ideal day to> start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her> days. Choose the tithi> over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your> round of 108. But I will> write a few words on her as you requested earlier> the moment I get some> breathing time. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ] > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Dear Mrs Sarbani,> > Thanks your clarification.> > Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> svaha.> > Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask> for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of> chants every day, total no of chants, when to> start-day or night, in shukla> or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe to> start. Kindly pardon> for my ignorance.> > Thanks,> > Vijay kumar> > > - > Sarbani <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org <sarbani%40.org> >> Sarkar Rath > sohamsa@> <sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > .com > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM> RE: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Vijay,> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had not> even noticed it. That> was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim krim> krim hum hum hrim hrim> dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> need not say the om. Saying> it silently is optional. As there is confusion I> wrote it in the bracket. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com> > > > > > _____ > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ] > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:47 PM> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,> > One humble confusion has arisen, may be due to my> ignorance, on your> statement to Tijana : you are right in that 22> aksharas are formed without> counting the Om. > > The mantra you gave was : > > Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra). This> has 22 aksharas counted> with Om.> > > The mantra which Tijana is suggesting is : (Om) krim> krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim> hrim svaha . This has 22> akshara without Om.> > Now, which one is right to be chanted for higher> knowledge ?> > Thanks,> > Vijay Kumar> > > - > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org <sarbani%40.org> > > sohamsa@> <sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > .com > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:17 PM> RE: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Bojan and Tijana, > I am glad that you have raised these questions as it> is apparent there are> some confusions in your minds. > > Tijana, you are right in that 22 aksharas are formed> without counting the> om. We say the Om silently in our minds. Please read> my earlier mail to> Bojan. I think that is the point all of you are> missing or not> comprehending, I don't know which. When you stop> looking at the 22 aksharas> as the 10th house, and instead look at it as the 22> steps which lead you to> the ultimate gyana, you will begin to realise what> this mantra is all about.> When you understand the four variations to the> gayatri chhanda, it will> become all the more clearer. This mantra is all> about gyana; that very rare> gyana which will ultimately give you bliss and> liberate you. In the process,> it will give you a lot of other things as well. With> such mantrs you DO NOT> add and subtract bijas. They are complete by> themselves. > > The 21 akshara mantra which Bojan mentions from VRA> is a different mantra> and is not formed by adding or subtracting bijas to> the 22 akshara one. It> just LOOKS similar. The first set of bijas hrim hrim> hum hum krim krim krim> is different. The second set of bijas are similar.> The all important svaha> shakti is not present in this mantra. This is a> different mantra while the> 22 akshara mantra is complete by itself. If it is> gyana that you are looking> for, then by all means chant the 22 akshara mantra> and you will get the> complete gyana of Dakshinamurti. No other mantra of> Kali can give such high> gyana. I would surely advise this highest of mantras> for worshipping Kali,> for not only gyana but for all things in life.> > There are other mantras to which we add and subtract> bijas; but we do not do> that with certain highly empowered mantras. The 21> akshara mantra is a> totally different genre of mantra for siddha vidya.> As Sanjayji reminds all> the time VRA was a book written for the masses; it> does not contain all> these detailed explanations. > === message truncated ===Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started.http://mobile./mail

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Swee thank you, dear Sarbani I wrote what my

doubt is. My question is why there are three Krim

bijas at the left side and only two at the right side

of mantra? And the mantra is the same as in the VRA

except om at the beginning. Best wishes, Bojan

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani

wrote:

 

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> The 22 akshara dakshina kali mantra has does have

> swaha in the end. The om

> is incidental, like it is for many mantras, to be

> said silently in the mind.

> I dont know what he is confused about.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Swee Chan [sweechan]

> Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:25 PM

> Sohamsa

> Re: Re: Kali puja

>

>

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Bojan,

> Namaste

>

> Add swaha when you are offering yagna. If you do,

> then the entire mantra is

> silent except for swaha.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

> On 2/21/07 4:00 PM, " Bojan Vidakovic "

> <janbovid

>

>

Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Sarbani I have question again because it is not

> clear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksara

> with Om.

> But From your mail:

> Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had

> not

> > even noticed it. That

> > was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim

> krim

> > krim hum hum hrim hrim

> > dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> > need not say the om.

> There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I am

> interested why there is not same number of aksaras

> from both sides, and threee times Krim bija from

> both

> sides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA

> is

> also typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit

> there

> is 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. The

> mantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place

> is

> the same just here is Om at the beginning, that is

> differnent.

> Thanks in advance, Bojan

> Hari Om Tat Sat

> --- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani

> <sarbani%40.org>

> <sarbani%40.org> >

> wrote:

>

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > I am inundated with work at this moment so I

> cannot

> > type out the nyasas and

> > dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra

> > Maharnava. An ideal day to

> > start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her

> > days. Choose the tithi

> > over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your

> > round of 108. But I will

> > write a few words on her as you requested earlier

> > the moment I get some

> > breathing time.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com

> <http://sarbani.com/>

> <http://sarbani.com/>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar@

> <v_kumar

> cdotb.ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in>

> <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ]

> > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM

> > sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40>

> <sohamsa%40>

> > Re: Re: Kali puja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mrs Sarbani,

> >

> > Thanks your clarification.

> >

> > Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim

> > krim krim hum hum hrim

> > hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

> > svaha.

> >

> > Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask

> > for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of

> > chants every day, total no of chants, when to

> > start-day or night, in shukla

> > or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe

> to

> > start. Kindly pardon

> > for my ignorance.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Vijay kumar

> >

> >

> > -

> > Sarbani <sarbani

> <sarbani%40.org>

> <sarbani

> <sarbani%40.org> >

> > Sarkar Rath

> > sohamsa@

> > <sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40>

> <sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40> > .com

> > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM

> > RE: Re: Kali puja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had

> not

> > even noticed it. That

> > was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim

> krim

> > krim hum hum hrim hrim

> > dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You

> > need not say the om. Saying

> > it silently is optional. As there is confusion I

> > wrote it in the bracket.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/>

> <http://sarbani.com/> com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar@

> <v_kumar

> cdotb.ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in>

> <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ]

>

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Bojan,

 

I am repeating : please read my reply to Vijay. Also Vijay understood it. If you read his query to me you will understand it. I am referring to my last exchange with him.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar Rath

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Bojan Vidakovic [janbovid] Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:30 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Kali puja

 

 

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Swee thank you, dear Sarbani I wrote what mydoubt is. My question is why there are three Krimbijas at the left side and only two at the right sideof mantra? And the mantra is the same as in the VRAexcept om at the beginning. Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Sat--- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>wrote:> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee,> > The 22 akshara dakshina kali mantra has does have> swaha in the end. The om> is incidental, like it is for many mantras, to be> said silently in the mind.> I dont know what he is confused about.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > Swee Chan [sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com] > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:25 PM> Sohamsa> Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Bojan,> Namaste> > Add swaha when you are offering yagna. If you do,> then the entire mantra is> silent except for swaha.> > Love,> > Swee> > > > On 2/21/07 4:00 PM, "Bojan Vidakovic"> <janbovid >> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> Dear Sarbani I have question again because it is not> clear enough. The last mail from Vijay is 22 aksara> with Om. > But From your mail:> Dear Vijay,> > > > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had> not> > even noticed it. That> > was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim> krim> > krim hum hum hrim hrim> > dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> > need not say the om. > There is not swaha here. Is that typo? And I am> interested why there is not same number of aksaras> from both sides, and threee times Krim bija from> both> sides? Maybe I am quastioning too much, but in VRA> is> also typo with this Krim aksara, so in sanskrit> there> is 3 times Krim and in transl only two times. The> mantra is the same in VRA the bijas and thier place> is> the same just here is Om at the beginning, that is> differnent.> Thanks in advance, Bojan> Hari Om Tat Sat > --- Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> <sarbani%40.org>> <sarbani%40.org> >> wrote:> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > I am inundated with work at this moment so I> cannot> > type out the nyasas and> > dhyana for you. You can look them up from Mantra> > Maharnava. An ideal day to> > start is Amavasya. Tuesdays and Saturdays are her> > days. Choose the tithi> > over the vara in this case. When in doubt, do your> > round of 108. But I will> > write a few words on her as you requested earlier> > the moment I get some> > breathing time. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com > <http://sarbani.com/>> <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar@> <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in>> cdotb.ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in>> <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ] > > Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:48 PM> > sohamsa > <sohamsa%40>> <sohamsa%40> > > Re: Re: Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs Sarbani,> > > > Thanks your clarification.> > > > Hence the mantra for Goddess Kalike is : (Om) krim> > krim krim hum hum hrim> > hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim> > svaha.> > > > Would it not be too much, If I look forward to ask> > for Dhyana, Nyasa, no of> > chants every day, total no of chants, when to> > start-day or night, in shukla> > or krishna paksha, any important tithi to observe> to> > start. Kindly pardon> > for my ignorance.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Vijay kumar> > > > > > - > > Sarbani <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> <sarbani%40.org>> <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> <sarbani%40.org> >> > Sarkar Rath > > sohamsa@> > <sohamsa > <sohamsa%40>> <sohamsa > <sohamsa%40> > .com > > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:33 PM> > RE: Re: Kali puja> > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Vijay,> > > > Thanking you for pointing this out to me. I had> not> > even noticed it. That> > was a typo on my part. The mantra is (om) krim> krim> > krim hum hum hrim hrim> > dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim. You> > need not say the om. Saying> > it silently is optional. As there is confusion I> > wrote it in the bracket. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/>> <http://sarbani.com/> com> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar@> <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in>> cdotb.ernet.in <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in>> <v_kumar%40cdotb.ernet.in> ] > === message truncated ===Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovichttp://www.jatavedas.com________It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar.http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sarbani,

After all thinking i`m still puzzeled on the 10th bhava...

Annihilation of karma can be done only through Vishnu that is why 22

aksharas for the 22 incarnations? Here also the answer on why one can

not perceive (better realize) Jagannath without worshiping of Mother

is hiding (Krishna-Kali)...Dakshina Kali is the highest satva, but

even satva must be transcended. Also there can be no form, so it

should be 12th bhava. That`s why Sri Thakur mentaly had to deppart

from the form of His beloved Mother. The only logic thing i have in

mind is this mentaly prefixing and also sufixing the om to the

mantra. It is actually chanted in that way and these two om make the

mantra corresponding with the 12th bhava?

Sincerely,

Tijana

 

 

sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani

wrote:

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Tijana,

>

> As students of mantra shastra, the question naturally arises as to

why such

> a powerful mantra, the bestower of para vidya, the highest gyana, is

> associated with the 10th house of the horoscope. Obviously the

mundane

> levels of karakatwas are not going to apply here. In some way, the

10th

> house must be associated with the 22 steps we need to take for the

final

> attainment. One is as you mention Indra. He is called Indra because

he

> conquered the 10 indriyas, which is one of the necessities which

this high

> para vidya will teach us. The other is the dissolution of karma.

The 10th

> house shows our accumulated karmas over our multiple past lives.

All these

> karmas of these various lives will have to be burnt and dissolved.

The 22

> akshara mantra of Kali can bring about this dissolution once we

attain the

> gyana. It is complete annihilation of our karmas, so that we are

catapulted

> back into the dark void through and by Kali.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> tijana damjanovic [tijanadamjanovic]

> Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:55 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Kali puja-Tijana

>

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Sarbani,

> Thank you very much for your inputs on this.

> i`ll give here only few thoughts on the subject...

> Rig Veda (X,125) explains the nature of the Mother as the Divine

> Warrior (Kali with krim bija) and talks about power of Gayatri as a

> mantra of deliverence and protection (as Gayatri is the form of

Tara).

> Also in Rig Veda, Indra (10th house) is known as Vishwavajit or the

> one who slays Vishvarupa, the same as Kali stands for dissolution

and

> liberation from material. Indra (perfect Yogi) is also the

conquerer

> of the horses-indriyas whose seat is 10th bhava.

> Sincerely,

> Tijana

>

> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, " Sarbani

> Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Tijana,

> >

> > I answered your mail in a reply written jointly to you and Bojan.

> After

> > reading that NOW can you tell me why such a mantra will be

> associated with

> > the 10th house?

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani.

> <http://sarbani.com/> com/>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > tijana damjanovic [tijanadamjanovic@]

> > Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:00 AM

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> > Re: Kali puja

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Sarbani,

> > I`m a bit confused now about Daksina Kali mantra. Doesn`t it

supose

> > to have 22 aksharas without om (krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim

> > dakshine kalike krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha)? As for

the

> > effects of the mantra (on the high spiritual level), i couldn`t

> agree

> > more, though we can say that this Kali mantra brings the energy

of

> > mantra to the mental plane (12+10)i.e. to the 10th house, being

the

> > Mahavidya of Saturn it leads to complete dettachment, perfect

Karma

> > Yogi?

> > Sincerely,

> > Tijana

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com, " Sarbani

> > Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay,

> > >

> > > Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I consider it

> > auspicious

> > > that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There are

> innumerable

> > Kali

> > > mantras, of which the most well known is the 22 akshara

Dakshina

> > Kali

> > > mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to be

> spiritually

> > > extremely potent as they are moksha granting mantras. Like the

> Baais

> > > Pahuncha or the 22 steps inside the Jagannath Temple. I am

> writing

> > down a

> > > few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras. Meanwhile I am

> > attaching a file

> > > with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana in

> UR

> > Palladio

> > > Font and Sanskrit 99.

> > >

> > > 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely powerful. Can be

> > chanted

> > > safely by anyone)

> > > 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim

krim

> > hum hum

> > > hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra)

> > > 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath

> > > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com> com

> <http://sarbani.

> > <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com/> com/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Vijay Kumar [v_kumar@]

> > > Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> > > Kali puja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mrs. Sarbani,

> > >

> > > If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some simple

> Goddess

> > Kalika

> > > Mantras which people may chant.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Vijay Kumar

> > >

> >

>

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!Om Gurave Namah! Respected Sarbani ji, The third Kali mantra you have given: "Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha" I have read in some places "klim" replaced by "kreem". So the mantra reads as: "Om hrim shrim kreem parameswari kalike svaha" Are both mantras correct? Let me know when you get a moment. Warm regards, Pranav Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Vijay, Oh dear, I don't why you are asking me that. But I consider it auspicious that you ask this on Thakur's tithi puja day. There are innumerable Kali mantras, of which the most well known is the 22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra. Mantras which are of 22 aksharas are said to be spiritually extremely potent as they are moksha granting mantras. Like the Baais Pahuncha or the

22 steps inside the Jagannath Temple. I am writing down a few common, 'safe', prasiddha Kali mantras. Meanwhile I am attaching a file with some Bhadrakali mantras from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana in UR Palladio Font and Sanskrit 99. 1. Krim (the bija mantra of Kali and extremely powerful. Can be chanted safely by anyone) 2. Om krim krim krim hum hum hrim hrim dakshine kalike krim krim hum hum hrim hrim svaha (22 akshara Dakshina Kali mantra) 3. Om hrim shrim klim parameswari kalike svaha Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com Vijay Kumar [v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in] Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PMsohamsa Subject: Kali puja Dear Mrs. Sarbani, If time permits, may I request to kindly guide some simple Goddess Kalika Mantras which people may chant. Thanks Vijay Kumar

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