Fundamentals ([Sun Signs] Vaisakh - Aries (April 15 - May 14) - to POL)

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हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pierre-Olivier and group, Namaskar

Atma (soul), Mana (mind) and Tanu (body). These correspond to the i)

Charakarakas, ii) Naisargika karakas and iii) Sthira karakas

respectively. The dhi or intelligence is an addition to these three,

which has been created by Vasudeva (refer creation). Through the lagna

we have Bhaava. Look up the sanskrit word for this and you will find

that it means much more than just house. It means 'approach' or

'manner of acting/condition, state etc'.

So each bhaava in the chart shows:

i) how we approach a certain aspect of life (bhaava itself)

ii) how we are approached by those people indicated by those aspects of

life (bhaavesha - lordship)

 

For now i will omit the Chara karakas from this discussion. We are

thus left with:

i. the analysis of the mana/mind (karaka) and its experiences with

certain bhaavas.

ii. the analysis of the mana/mind (karaka) and its experiences with

certain people (bhavesha).

 

Bhaava from Lagna shows how you approach those various activities in

life. I.e. if you have Mars in tenth you will be aggressive in work. If

you have Saturn in tenth you will be very slow and take your time to

finish things. If you have nodes in seventh you may cheat on your wife

(ref: sarvartha chintamani). Now why do you think Parasara says that if

Mars is in seventh the native will have three broken marriages?

It has to do with ones approach, and naturally how you approach is what

you get.

 

Bhaava in the rasi shows how 'I' approach the various aspects of my

life, but to get a detailed understanding of the character and traits

of other people i must see the divisional chart associated with them.

In a sense the Rasi is the self-centric view of everything, and thus

becomes the most important chart. I.e. Seventh house in rasi shows how

I approach relationships, but its the seventh house in navamsa through

which i can describe the spouse and his/her traits.

 

Bhaava from Karaka shows how we experience various activities in

life. I.e. the sambandha between Venus and the fourth house shows how

our experience of vehicles and similar comforts impact our PERCEPTION

of vehicles. The sambandha between Venus and the seventh house will

show how we see relationships and how they affect us. I.e. I have Venus

in the second house and have had to come to terms with a very warped

idea about relationships as the seventh house will sit in the sixth

(celibacy, competitions, etc) from Venus. Had malefics also been placed

in the seventh (wrong approach), or the seventh lord was associated

with malefics (wrong partners) this could have been disastrous.

 

Bhaavesh from Karaka shows how we experience various people in our

life.

I.e. the sambandha between Venus and the seventh lord shows how the

specific partners affect us in life and make us feel. Thus the

experience of married life vs. the experience of having a

spouse/partner can be completely different things.

 

The Karaka-bhava, i.e. for Guru: ninth house/lord from Jupiter, or

for relationships: seventh house/lord from Venus, show how that

specific person is brought to your Mana/mind. The ninth house is there

for every lagna, but yet not everyone has a Guru. So also if the ninth

house/lord from Jupiter is under influence this will affect how ones

Guru comes into ones life, or is inhibited from the same. Similarly

everyone has a father, but if the ninth house/lord from Sun is

afflicted then one may be separated from the father. Thus here we are

analyzing to the various people coming to your attention/mind/mana.

 

Finally Karaka itself shows the overall nature of ones experiences

related to that karaka. If Venus is afflicted the person will not look

very happily at the prospect of relationships, i.e. Venus joined Sun,

Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu can show: Ego, Anger, Sorrow, Shock and

Headlessness as problems in relationships respectively. The more of

these afflicting the same, the worse the situation, but this is

attributed to the self and is a result of being in experiences with

other people, but not necessarily caused by other people.

 

Whew!.. there is a lot more such as the sambandha between lords

Tithi, Vara, Nakshatra, Yoga and Karana with the various bhaavas, not

to speak of the use of Chara karakas which are the most important.

 

I have given examples of these karaka/bhava principles in the

seventh house chapter in my book. I do recommend referring to the same

for further understanding.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

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Poloisel wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

| om

gurave namah |

 

Dear

Visti ji, pranams

 

 

You wrote:

"Saying that Mars in seventh makes a person look

for a fighting spouse is like saying that Saturn in seventh makes a

person look for a dead spouse."

 

We agree, it was absurd since the beginning.

(Now, this new argument is also wrong. Personnally,

I only would say Saturn in the 7th – from Venus – may indicate an older

spouse.)

 

If the seventh were “what you are seeking in

relationships†according to you whereas “Mars in the [same] seventh

causes sorrow in married life†(COVA p. 255), then it would follow that

Mars in the seventh makes a person looking for sorrow on account of the

spouse.

 

Yours respectfully

 

Pierre-Olivier Loisel

 

 

 

 

Dans un

e-mail daté du 28/01/2007 11:56:29 Paris, Madrid, visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

a écrit :

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Pierre-Olivier, Namaskar

If a person has Mars in the seventh, they look for partners with lots

of energy and dynamism.

If Mars is afflicted, then the person may be looking for more than that

- who are we to judge?

Saying that Mars in seventh makes a person look for a fighting spouse

is like saying that Saturn in seventh makes a person look for a dead

spouse. no no no... you must rethink your approach to this.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

Poloisel (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

 

 

 

 

|om

gurave namah|

 

Dear

Sundeep, dear Soul,

 

There

was no need for such long mails for which I thank you anyway. Sundeep,

I think we agree in toto.

 

In

the beginning, Vistiji had written:

“Planets

in the seventh show the exact opposite nature of whom we are i.e Mars

in the seventh makes a person very caring and nice...â€

and

 

“Opposites

attract is really the theme for the seventh, and so also what you are

seeking in relationships also indicates how you will behave.â€

 

 

Now

I have to struggle with my English:

 

Assuming

Vistiji was refering to the seventh from lagna, the question “Who would look for

a fighting spouse?†came to my mind.

 

Since

then, neither diluting considerations relying on psychoanalysis nor the

coming of a Ruchak Yoga as a deus ex machina could rescue these vague

statements.

 

Strictly,

the seventh –from lagna- being the door through which we interact with

the world doesn’t imply it indicates what we are seeking in

relationships. The seventh from Venus would make more sense. Besides,

opposites don’t necessarily attracts.

 

 

With

kind regards,

 

Piere-Olivier

Loisel

 

P.S. What does “Whew...†mean?