New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

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|om|Dear Anurag, Ramesh Gangaramani, Ravi Nair, I-Akash, namasteThank you for your attempts on the quiz I had posed in continuation of the quiz posed by Anurag on saptamsa. Yes, the coordinates of Salem as mentioned by some of you are correct and you should get Aries vargottama lagna. I had disclosed the specific fact that the native has two children. It is very interesting to note that all of you converged on the sequence of children being G-B (G for girl, B for boy). Some of you even went on to look at the third child with varying degrees of analysis.

Saptamsa lagna was Mesha yet Ramesh seemed to have got Meena lagna (even sign)...dont know what caused this but quite admissible considering that lagna is about 2 degrees Mesha which means an error of 8 mins in birth time can cause a change in lagna. Ramesh also jumped from the 9th house to the 5th house without considering the 7th house as per mandooka gati.

The actual sequence of children is B-B. Is this sequence better explained by considering Meena saptamsa lagna?best regardsHari

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Dear Anurag, Ramesh Gangaramani, Ravi Nair, I-Akash, namaste

 

Thank you for your attempts on the quiz I had posed in continuation of

the quiz posed by Anurag on saptamsa. Yes, the coordinates of Salem as

mentioned by some of you are correct and you should get Aries vargottama

lagna.

 

I had disclosed the specific fact that the native has two children. It

is very interesting to note that all of you converged on the sequence of

children being G-B (G for girl, B for boy). Some of you even went on to

look at the third child with varying degrees of analysis.

 

Saptamsa lagna was Mesha yet Ramesh seemed to have got Meena lagna (even

sign)...dont know what caused this but quite admissible considering that

lagna is about 2 degrees Mesha which means an error of 8 mins in birth

time can cause a change in lagna. Ramesh also jumped from the 9th

house to the 5th house without considering the 7th house as per mandooka

gati.

 

The actual sequence of children is B-B. Is this sequence better explained

by considering Meena saptamsa lagna?

 

best regards

Hari

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming?After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to

know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddisohamsa Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:20:21 AM New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

|om|Dear Anurag, Ramesh Gangaramani, Ravi Nair, I-Akash, namasteThank you for your attempts on the quiz I had posed in continuation of the quiz posed by Anurag on saptamsa. Yes, the coordinates of Salem as mentioned by some of you are correct and you should get Aries vargottama lagna. I had disclosed the specific fact that the native has two children. It is very interesting to note that all of you converged on the sequence of children being G-B (G for girl, B for boy). Some of you even went on to look at the third child with varying degrees of analysis.

Saptamsa lagna was Mesha yet Ramesh seemed to have got Meena lagna (even sign)...dont know what caused this but quite admissible considering that lagna is about 2 degrees Mesha which means an error of 8 mins in birth time can cause a change in lagna. Ramesh also jumped from the 9th house to the 5th house without considering the 7th house as per mandooka gati.

The actual sequence of children is B-B. Is this sequence better explained by considering Meena saptamsa lagna?best regardsHari

 

 

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

1. Why have you considered Ketu as the lord and not Mars?

2. Ketu is a female planet (per COVA).

 

So why would parivartana between Mercury (male) and Ketu (female) give a boy here?

 

Thanks for your views.

 

best regards

Hari

On 1/23/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming?

After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,1. For Scorpio and Aquarius when one of the lords is in the sign, the other Lord is to be taken. In this case Mars is in Scorpio, so we take Ketu as the lord of the sign.2. Ketu indicates a female child, and even more so here as it is debilitated. However since it is in parivartana with Mercury, in the house which governs the first child, then the female child we are expecting will be reversed and become a boy.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]----- Original

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

1. Why have you considered Ketu as the lord and not Mars?

2. Ketu is a female planet (per COVA).

 

So why would parivartana between Mercury (male) and Ketu (female) give a boy here?

 

Thanks for your views.

 

best regards

Hari

On 1/23/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming?

After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

Please pardon me for asking this dumb question but why would mere parivartana reverse the sex of the child?

 

Also Mercury is retrograde in the chart under discussion so won't this also reverse the sex of the child?

 

best regards

Hari

 

On 1/26/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,1. For Scorpio and Aquarius when one of the lords is in the sign, the other Lord is to be taken. In this case Mars is in Scorpio, so we take Ketu as the lord of the sign.

2. Ketu indicates a female child, and even more so here as it is debilitated. However since it is in parivartana with Mercury, in the house which governs the first child, then the female child we are expecting will be reversed and become a boy.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

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gmail.com>sohamsa Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:34:08 PMRe: New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

 

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

1. Why have you considered Ketu as the lord and not Mars?

2. Ketu is a female planet (per COVA).

 

So why would parivartana between Mercury (male) and Ketu (female) give a boy here?

 

Thanks for your views.

 

best regards

Hari

On 1/23/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming? After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Parivartana is the most intimate of sambandha, such that the Graha will exchange indications. So, if planet A indicates a boy and planet B indicates a girl, and they are in parivartana, then due to the exchange planet A will indicate a girl and planet B a boy. This is as long as they are directly involved with the house in question (house indicating the child).I have not heard of retrogression causing a reversal except in states of exaltation and debilitation. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddisohamsa Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:10:24 PMRe: New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

Please pardon me for asking this dumb question but why would mere parivartana reverse the sex of the child?

 

Also Mercury is retrograde in the chart under discussion so won't this also reverse the sex of the child?

 

best regards

Hari

 

On 1/26/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,1. For Scorpio and Aquarius when one of the lords is in the sign, the other Lord is to be taken. In this case Mars is in Scorpio, so we take Ketu as the lord of the sign.

2. Ketu indicates a female child, and even more so here as it is debilitated. However since it is in parivartana with Mercury, in the house which governs the first child, then the female child we are expecting will be reversed and become a boy.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi@

gmail.com>sohamsa@ .comFriday, January 26, 2007 5:34:08 PMRe: New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

 

|om|

Dear Michal, namaste

 

1. Why have you considered Ketu as the lord and not Mars?

2. Ketu is a female planet (per COVA).

 

So why would parivartana between Mercury (male) and Ketu (female) give a boy here?

 

Thanks for your views.

 

best regards

Hari

On 1/23/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming? After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

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| om gurave namah |Dear Michal and Hari

Parivartana is a Yoga, one of the four primary SAMBANDHA while retrogression is a GATI. Gati changes all the time, Sambandha does not.

If we take retrogression as a factor for change of sex from boy to girl, then every six odd months the gati will change, and a boy will become a girl and back to boy at least twice a year!!!

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Parivartana is the most intimate of sambandha, such that the Graha will exchange indications. So, if planet A indicates a boy and planet B indicates a girl, and they are in parivartana, then due to the exchange planet A will indicate a girl and planet B a boy. This is as long as they are directly involved with the house in question (house indicating the child).I have not heard of retrogression causing a reversal except in states of exaltation and debilitation. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi >sohamsa Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:10:24 PMRe: New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

 

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Dear Michal, namaste

 

Please pardon me for asking this dumb question but why would mere parivartana reverse the sex of the child?

 

Also Mercury is retrograde in the chart under discussion so won't this also reverse the sex of the child?

 

best regards

Hari

 

On 1/26/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,1. For Scorpio and Aquarius when one of the lords is in the sign, the other Lord is to be taken. In this case Mars is in Scorpio, so we take Ketu as the lord of the sign. 2. Ketu indicates a female child, and even more so here as it is debilitated. However since it is in parivartana with Mercury, in the house which governs the first child, then the female child we are expecting will be reversed and become a boy. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi@ gmail.com>sohamsa@ .comFriday, January 26, 2007 5:34:08 PMRe: New Saptamsha Quiz - Answer

 

 

|om|

Dear Michal, namaste

 

1. Why have you considered Ketu as the lord and not Mars?

2. Ketu is a female planet (per COVA).

 

So why would parivartana between Mercury (male) and Ketu (female) give a boy here?

 

Thanks for your views.

 

best regards

Hari

On 1/23/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Hari,Pisces Lagna would definately give two boys. As Lagna is an even sign the ninth house shows the first pregnancy. The Lord Ketu is debilitated in Gemini which would give a girl if not for the parivartana with Mercury changing the sex to male. Next pregnancy is from the 7th house. Mercury conjoined Mars in its own sign would also give a boy. But then why would there not be another child after this one? Is Jupiter in MKS enough to stop the third child from coming? After reading Anurag Sharma's post it seemed like the possibility of Aries Lagna was slim since the conditions for children are so bad. It would be interesting to know whether they suffered from ill health as that might be a factor lending itself to Aries being the Lagna. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

 

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|om|Dear Sanjay, pranaams

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Parivartana is a Yoga, one of the four primary SAMBANDHA while >retrogression is a GATI. Gati changes all the time, Sambandha does not.

>If we take retrogression as a factor for change of sex from boy to girl, then >every six odd months the gati will change, and a boy will become a girl and >back to boy at least twice a year!!!That is definitely not possible in the species called homo sapiens but this does exist in some species of fish. And recently some species have been discovered in which this sex change is a regular phenomenon.

best regardsHariSex Reversal in Fish by Shannon K. McWeeney

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride? Why not be the groom? With certain species of fish, this is an option.

Fish that can alter their sex are known as successive hermaphrodites.

Normally the sex reversal occurs only once. For example, a sexually

mature female reproduces and then becomes a male. The ovaries shrink,

the fish develops testes, and male hormones are released. These

physiological changes also alter the animal's behavior. These new males

become aggressive, defend territory, and court females.

Normally, sex reversal occurs in response to changes in the environment. For example, in a species of coral reef fish, Labroides dimidiatus

,

the basic social group is a dominant male with three to six females

living in his territory. If the dominant male dies, within days one of

the female fish will become male to take his place. It is only when the

male is absent that the sex change can occur. This suppression of sex

reversal is critical for maintaining the social structure of the group.

In other species, sex reversal may occur in response to a skewed sex

ratio in the group. If there are more females than males, a female may

change sex to increase its chance of mating.

Sex reversal allows fish to adapt to changes in their social

environment. Sexual flexibility increases reproductive fitness and

genetic diversity in these populations.

ReferencesAlder, T. 1995. Fishy sex: Uncovering the wild ways of fish. Science News 148:266–7.Robertson, D. R. 1972. Social control of sex reversal in a coral-reef fish. Science, 1007–9.