Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar You will forever be confused with Scorpio and Aquarius lagna. There is no end to which of the two traits the person will take. No doubt Ketu is dominating more in my case. I strengthen Mars through the Sun. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Venkatesh S wrote: |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Visti, Fro Atri class and some other discussions earlier in this group,i think Sun can act as an LL.But from your reply just earlier it is Ketu.Please clarify my confusion. Thanks, S.Venkatesh Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar I will admit that sometimes I get confused about parivartana myself. The reason is: In truth the paka lagna, etc, doesn't change. But, some other graha is doing the job of that graha. Example: In the case of the parivartana between Sun and Mars in my chart, the Sun is doing the word of Mars. So if i wanto strengthen my Mars as lagnesha, i should worship the Sun. Doing so makes me work very hard due to that 1st-10th exchange However, Ketu is the dominant lagnesh which has thrown me headfirst into astrology, meditation, etc. Ketu is no doubt dominating the entire chart and Sanjay has on many occasions seen this Ketu of mine in action too often and sometimes in very negative ways, to my regret and with great room for improvement. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Venkatesh S wrote: |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Visti, In your chart Lagna lord and 10th lord has parivartna,so Sun has become LL as it is in lagna.But in Lagnesh lecture,you mentioned that Mars and Ketu are LL and Ketu is dominating because of KAY.Which is your LL Sun or Ketu or Mars. Thanks, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Visti, Namaskar Parivartan has often raised many queries but you have put them together very nicely. I will summarise for benefit of others: Parivartan between say Lagna( Lorded by Planet A ) and 5H (Lorded by Planet B); makes Lagna as Pak Lagna as well, as Planet B acts as Lagnesh.The foucs of parivartan is thus Lagna. The rasi signs do not change but the lords exchange instead. Thus the effect of the houses will be as per their rasi signs along with the transformed lords. If any of the these planets(A/B) are also in conjunction/yuti; they will not exchange any effects with them. Hence only Parivartan Yog will dominate in that case. Thanks for your guidance as always. Sharat - Visti Larsen sohamsa Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:58 PM Re: Parivartana हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Sharat, Namaskar The Lagna stays the same at all times. We cannot say that your birth is different from the rising sign, as this would be the effect of Maya on the lagna. No, its only the Lagnesh who can be affected by Maya, and so also only the change of lagnesh/paka lagna can occur from a parivartana between lagnesh and another graha. Hence, If a parivartana occurs between say Lagna and fifth house, then the Lagna is still the lagna, but the sign in the lagna has now become the paka lagna as well. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote:  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Ramesh, I hope you dont mind, my thoughts on this, as I have been looking into it for a while now. As I understand, the Lords exchange , hence the rasis remain same but the Lords undergo transformation. Visti has used this concept repeatedly to explain Parivartan Yog. He even goes on to say that if the parivartan is between Lagna and House A, then Lord of House A will act as Lagan lord and Lagan will act as Pak lagan. I hope I got this right. Regards, Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani sohamsa Cc: pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net Friday, January 12, 2007 4:58 PM Parivartana Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namskar, Can you explain this a bit more please? I recently heard 2 different versions. Sanjayji in Atri lecture appeared to switch the signs keeping the planets in the same house whereas Narasimha in Boston lectures appeared to switch the planets keeping the signs in the same house. Are you using one of the 2 concepts, if so which one? Kind regards Ramesh Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food Drink Q & A. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, Can you please tell me how is the parivartna works in this chart.In this chart Mars(LL) and Rahu(4th house co-lord) has parivartna.Hence Rahu can act as a Lagnesh.ie;Rahu can act as a LL forever? If the Coral is worn it will give the result of Rahu? Is the same for the worship also,if Mars or its Deity is worshipped it has given the effect of Rahu? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc wrote:  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Visti, Namaskar Parivartan has often raised many queries but you have put them together very nicely. I will summarise for benefit of others: Parivartan between say Lagna( Lorded by Planet A ) and 5H (Lorded by Planet B); makes Lagna as Pak Lagna as well, as Planet B acts as Lagnesh.The foucs of parivartan is thus Lagna. The rasi signs do not change but the lords exchange instead. Thus the effect of the houses will be as per their rasi signs along with the transformed lords. If any of the these planets(A/B) are also in conjunction/yuti; they will not exchange any effects with them. Hence only Parivartan Yog will dominate in that case. Thanks for your guidance as always. Sharat - Visti Larsen sohamsa Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:58 PMRe: Parivartanaहरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥Dear Sharat, NamaskarThe Lagna stays the same at all times. We cannot say that your birth is different from the rising sign, as this would be the effect of Maya on the lagna. No, its only the Lagnesh who can be affected by Maya, and so also only the change of lagnesh/paka lagna can occur from a parivartana between lagnesh and another graha.Hence, If a parivartana occurs between say Lagna and fifth house, then the Lagna is still the lagna, but the sign in the lagna has now become the paka lagna as well.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote:  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Ramesh,I hope you dont mind, my thoughts on this, as I have been looking into it for a while now.As I understand, the Lords exchange , hence the rasis remain same but the Lords undergo transformation. Visti has used this concept repeatedly to explain Parivartan Yog. He even goes on to say that if the parivartan is between Lagna and House A, then Lord of House A will act as Lagan lord and Lagan will act as Pak lagan. I hope I got this right.Regards,Sharat- Ramesh.F.Gangaramani sohamsa Cc: pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net Friday, January 12, 2007 4:58 PM ParivartanaSatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namskar, Can you explain this a bit more please? I recently heard 2 different versions. Sanjayji in Atri lecture appeared to switch the signs keeping the planets in the same house whereas Narasimha in Boston lectures appeared to switch the planets keeping the signs in the same house. Are you using one of the 2 concepts, if so which one? Kind regards Ramesh Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu. 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart. I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory. Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating. 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this. This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense. Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Parivartana |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu. 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart. I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory. Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant. Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger. Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating. 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this. This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense. Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Parivartana |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu. 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart. I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory. Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html&sid=1061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Rafel, Can you please explain why Mars is in Scorpio,then Ketu is seen/calculated. Regards, S.Venkatesh Rafal G <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. 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Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Venkatesh , Namaskar Mangal and Ketu rules Vrscika Rasi. Sani and Rahu rules Kumbha Rasi. If one lord is in the Vrscika/Kumbha then we are advised to see other lord. All this is presented in Narayana Dasa book which I beileve is free online. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 12:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Rafel, Can you please explain why Mars is in Scorpio,then Ketu is seen/calculated. Regards, S.Venkatesh Rafal G <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Now that's room service! 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Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, Hope Guru Rafal's reply on this matter has resolved your doubts. You have to see the sign as well when such lordships are being seen. I suggest you go through the Narayana dasa book or e book for more details. I found it very helpful. Regards Sharat sohamsa , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:>> |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct?> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.> I quote here:> First Rule> 1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.> 2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).> 3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.> 4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.> There are more conditions so do read them.> > Hope this helps> > Regards> Sharat> > > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PM> Re: Parivartana> > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.> > Strength of planets> 1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.> 2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.> 3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.> > Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> Sharat gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.> 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.> This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM> Re: Parivartana> > > < DIV id="ygrp-text"> > |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.> > 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.> > I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh > > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.> 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.> 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.> I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.> Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.> Hope this helps.> Sharat> > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM> Re: Parivartana> > > JAI SRIRAM> > Dear Sharat,> > Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange.> > 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL?> > 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu?> > 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.> > In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.> < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required.> > Hope this helps.> Regards> Sharat> > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S.Rafal G <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh 21 page for signs. For lords is what I listened below. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Rafal G <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign. I quote here: First Rule 1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest. 2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets). 3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign. 4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered. There are more conditions so do read them. Hope this helps Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PM Re: Parivartana |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant. Strength of planets 1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order. 2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger. 3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger. Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating. 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this. This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense. Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Parivartana < DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu. 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart. I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory. Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------- Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. 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Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, It is there for signs,but for lords where it is? Thanks, Venkatesh.S.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Venkatesh21 page for signs. For lords is what I listened below.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comVenkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S.Rafal G <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, In ND book there is one general table with those rules. Jhora runs with that hierarchy for lords which gives the most accurate effects of Dasa: (1) If one of lords is in sign then take the other lord (2) Number of Grahas with Ma or Ke (3) Guru/Buddha/Lord touching (4) Exalted (5) Dual>F>M (6) More yrs (7) Longitude Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, It is there for signs,but for lords where it is? Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh 21 page for signs. For lords is what I listened below. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Venkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Rafal G <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign. I quote here: First Rule 1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest. 2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets). 3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign. 4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered. There are more conditions so do read them. Hope this helps Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PM Re: Parivartana |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant. Strength of planets 1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order. 2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger. 3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger. Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating. 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this. This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense. Regards Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM Re: Parivartana < DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu. 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart. I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory. Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh. 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum. 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged. I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost. Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK. Hope this helps. Sharat - Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM Re: Parivartana JAI SRIRAM Dear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account? Thanks in advance. Regards, S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Dear Venkatesh, You need to post details on the List, if you want more views. In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse. < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps. Regards Sharat Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, Can you please look at the follwing rules(that you mentioned also) for the strength of the planet and also the site PAGE3 in http://srath.com/lessons/beginner/naisargikadasa.htm I get confused which one to follow to find out the strgenth of the planet. Thanks, Venkatesh.S. Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Venkatesh,In ND book there is one general table with those rules. Jhora runs with that hierarchy for lords which gives the most accurate effects of Dasa: (1) If one of lords is in sign then take the other lord (2) Number of Grahas with Ma or Ke (3) Guru/Buddha/Lord touching (4) Exalted (5) Dual>F>M (6) More yrs (7) LongitudeRegards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comVenkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, It is there for signs,but for lords where it is? Thanks, Venkatesh.S.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Venkatesh21 page for signs. For lords is what I listened below.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comVenkatesh S napisał(a): JAI SRIRAM Dear Rafel, Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify. Thanks, Venkatesh.S.Rafal G <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign. Regards Rafal Gendarz www.rohinaa.com Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. |JAI SRIRAM| Dear Sharat, You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct? Regards, S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.I quote here:First Rule1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.There are more conditions so do read them.Hope this helpsRegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PMRe: Parivartana|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.Strength of planets1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.RegardsSharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AMRe: Parivartana< DIV id="ygrp-text"> |JAI SRIRAM|Dear Sharat, 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.Thanks in advance.Regards,S.Venkatesh Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.Hope this helps.Sharat- Venkatesh S sohamsa Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AMRe: ParivartanaJAI SRIRAMDear Sharat, Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange. 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL? 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu? 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?Thanks in advance.Regards,S.VenkateshSharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:Hare Ram KrishnaDear Venkatesh,You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.< FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required. Hope this helps.RegardsSharatSucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Mail Beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. Get your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------------Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Venkatesh, ND is a Rasi dasa, so for it use the sign rules, these are same as below. For assessing the strength of grahas, use the ones mentioned below. Regards Sharat sohamsa , Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:>> |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > Can you please look at the follwing rules(that you mentioned also) for the strength of the planet and also the site PAGE3 in http://srath.com/lessons/beginner/naisargikadasa.htm> I get confused which one to follow to find out the strgenth of the planet.> > Thanks,> Venkatesh.S.> > > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Venkatesh,> > In ND book there is one general table with those rules. > > Jhora runs with that hierarchy for lords which gives the most accurate effects of Dasa:> > > (1) If one of lords is in sign then take the other lord> (2) Number of Grahas with Ma or Ke> (3) Guru/Buddha/Lord touching> (4) Exalted (5) Dual>F>M (6) More yrs (7) Longitude> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > Venkatesh S napisa & #322;(a): JAI SRIRAM> > Dear Rafel,> > It is there for signs,but for lords where it is?> > Thanks,> Venkatesh.S.> > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Venkatesh> > 21 page for signs. For lords is what I listened below.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > Venkatesh S napisa & #322;(a): JAI SRIRAM> > Dear Rafel,> > Is this rule in Narayana dasa book? > which page,i am not able to get in.Please clarify.> > Thanks,> Venkatesh.S.> > Rafal G starsuponme wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar> Primo: if Mangal is in scorpio, then Ketu is seen/calculated as lord. If not then see (2) which of these two (ma or ke) are with more planets, if they associate with same number of planet (3) then see which of these two is aspected by Ju/Me or Lord of Sign.> Regards> Rafal Gendarz> www.rohinaa.com> > Dnia 19-03-2007 o godz. 5:03 Venkatesh S napisa³(a): > > Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.> |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > You are mentioned about strength of a sign,but i mentined about strength of planet.Here we are looking for strgenth of a planet,so which is correct?> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> Please read Sanjay ji's book on Narayan Dasa, where you can find how to judge the strength of a sign.Thus in your chart Ketu will be taken as stronger Lagna lord as it is in a stronger sign.> I quote here:> First Rule> 1.The sign with the Atmakaraka is considered the strongest.> 2.The sign with a planet (or with more planets) is considered stronger than a sign without a planet (or with lesser number of planets).> 3.If the signs have equal number of planets, then the status of the planets like exaltation, Moolatrikona, Swakshetra etc,should be considered to declare the stronger sign.> 4.If they are still equal in strength, or without planets, then the natural strengths of Dual signs being stronger than fixed signs and fixed signs being stronger than movable signs is considered.> There are more conditions so do read them.> > Hope this helps> > Regards> Sharat> > > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 12:13 PM> Re: Parivartana> > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > I found this the following from the Pt.Sanjay to calculate the strength of the plant.> > Strength of planets> 1. A planet placed in exaltation/mûlatrikona or own sign is stronger in decreasing order.> 2. The degrees of planet must be delineated. One with higher degrees (as used in the Cara Karaka scheme) is stronger.> 3. If both have equal number of degrees, the one with higher minutes/seconds is stronger.> > Please clarify me still you think the planet yuti makes Ketu more stronger than Mars.Is there any notes you have?> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> Sharat gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) < wbr>org> wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> 1.Ketu is with Ve, Mars is alone, this makes it stronger, hence dominant lagna lord. Thus dominant lagna lord is not in exchange here,in any case the curses in the chart are dominating.> 2.Ra-Ke in 1/7 axis, with Rahu in Lagna, the dictum applies. Saturn is not involved in this.> This is my limited understanding, please ignore if you think this does not make sense.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 11:10 AM> Re: Parivartana> > > < DIV id="ygrp-text"> > |JAI SRIRAM|> > Dear Sharat,> > 1.How did you say Ketu as LL,not as Mars and the exchange has no effect between Mars and rahu.> > 2.In the Rasi chart Saturn is out of Ra-Ke axis.But Saturn is in Rahu's nakshatra.How is it Kalho Chandivinayake in this chart.> > I had mistaken you are in the Atri class.Soory.> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh > > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> 1.Apologies, read that as Lagna co-lord for Mars. However as I have explained Ketu is your dominant Lagna lord, thus the parivartan you mention between Mars and Rahu does not involve lagnesh.> 2. Rahu is posited in lagna and influences it no doubt, it will so do so all the time, but your lagnesh is still Ketu and 7H is the paka lagna. As I said I would not suggest gemstone for Mars/Rahu. Instead for Ra-Ke axis, Kalho Chandivinayake is the dictum.> 3.The effect of deity worship do not get reversed or exchanged.> I suggest to remedy the curses first and foremost.> Btw..I am not in Attri classes as I live in the UK.> Hope this helps.> Sharat> > - > Venkatesh S > sohamsa > Friday, March 16, 2007 4:15 AM> Re: Parivartana> > > JAI SRIRAM> > Dear Sharat,> > Mars is the LL and 6th lord,not 8th lord.It is Scorpio lagna.I aware of the curses.I like to know some of the following doubts since you are in the Atri class.I am not asking about the wearing gemstone,i am look forward from you for the gemstone effects due to exchange.> > 1.Rahu can act as LL.That means Rahu is the LL for throught the life or any other meaning for ACT as LL?> > 2.It is clear that if the gemstone for Mars shall activate the te effect of Rahu and vice versa.Hence here which gemstone is required for Mars or for rahu?> > 3.What about the deity worship? If Rahu is worship then Mars effect can activate and vice versa OR for the deity or graha worship,this parivartna is not taken into account?> > Thanks in advance.> > Regards,> S.Venkatesh> > Sharat gidoc wrote:> Hare Ram Krishna> Dear Venkatesh,> You need to post details on the List, if you want more views.> > In your chart there is a parivartan between 8 th co lord Mars and co Lord of 4H Rahu, however Ke is your lagna lord and AL is in 10H. Mars is a sura planet in a sura house , thus its placement is good where as Rahu in Lagna may effect health. I would not suggest any gemstone here, as you have been thinking.This is not so important as the Curses in your chart which need to be remedied first.Prominent is the Brahmin shrap and a sub curse on Venus. The curse on Jupiter is happening in the 5H and thus 'future planning' may be blocked while relationships and mariage may be effected due to 7H being involved in Venus curse.> < FONT face="Arial" color="#008000" size="2">I think you should remedy this first, I suggest listen to Visti's recent lecture for guidance but it would appear that worship of Sri Vishnu is required.> > Hope this helps.> Regards> Sharat> > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> Try the free Mail Beta. > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Auto s' Green Center. > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > -------------------> Zespó³ Reamonn ponownie w Polsce! > Ju¿ dzi¶ zobacz i pos³uchaj przedsmak koncertów -> > http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://adv.reklama.wp.pl/as/d87.html & sid=1061 > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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