Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Dear Soulsadhak, I must be equally " dumb " , since I dont see anything dumb in the question. I think it was PVR (or perhaps another Guru) who once posted an analogy that went something like this: if you have a house, rasi dristi is like neighboring houses, and graha dristi is like someone who comes to visit (with a motive). So it is rasi's rasi dristi, using your terms. However, although neighboring houses are in clear view of each other, there have to be neighbors inside the neighboring houses, otherwise you in your own house are unaffected (so rasi dristi without any grahas in the rasi does not have much meaning). If the neighbor happens to be a criminal, you will be somewhat limited and careful in your movements in your own house (even though the criminal never actually visits your house). If he happens to be a priest, you will perhaps be affected in a positive way by his priestly habits. What I got from this was that rasi dristi does not have motive (like graha) yet affects you nonetheless.. At least this is how I remember what was said a long time ago. I may be quite wrong..Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.. Sundeep sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > Dear Visti/Sharat/Sundeep, > > is it " planet's rasi drishti " or " rasi's rasi drishti " ? > > quote: 2. If no planet then strongest aspect by rasi drishti > > sorry for being so dumb! > SS > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > Dear Sharat, Namaskar > > The rule you quote about the Ishta Devata is from VRA, but is only > half > > right i must say. However, your confusion is justified and i will > > explain why the rule of aspects has been omitted by Freedom Cole > in his > > lectures. I have personally taught this to my students 'off > session' as > > it can give rise to alot of confusion. > > > > Let there be no doubt that the planets placed in the 12th from > > karakamsa, or if none, the lord of 12th from the karakamsa is the > Ishta > > Devata. This is the REAL form of the Ishta Devata and how the > person > > looks at God in their lives. > > > > However, the aspect of planets on the 12th from karakamsa is > useful in > > understanding whether the person can be LED to the Ishta Devata > through > > another Devata. You will find that not everyone has a natural > liking for > > their Ishta Devata and this can depend on other factors such as > Ketu, > > Rasi, Vimsamsa, etc. I.e. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa preferred Kali > over > > Rama in his worship, yet he had very deep spiritual experiences > which > > can only be attributed to the Ishta devata/Paramatma. > > > > So we do use aspects, but only when we wanto lead the person to > the > > Ishta Devata through a Devata they may prefer more. > > > > I hope this clears things. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > -- > > Visti Larsen > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > Sharat wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Sundeep > > > > > > Sanjay jis rule as I seem to understand is: > > > 1. First consider the planet in the bhava > > > 2. If no planet then strongest aspect by rasi drishti > > > 3. If none, then take the Lord of the Bhava > > > > > > There does seem to be an opinion that Lord of the Bhava be > considered > > > over the Rasi drishti, as you rightly point out. Perhaps one > needs to > > > examine the D20 chart to see which is stronger. > > > > > > I also meant to ask whether you had some resolution of the query > > > regarding Gemstone use when planets are in conjunction or > parivartan. > > > > > > I did not get any reposne to my query. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > ** vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> > > > *To:* sohamsa > <sohamsa > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:23 PM > > > *Subject:* Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO ALL > > > > > > Dear Soulsadhak, > > > I know your question was to Swee, but I heard a couple of > audios - > > > perhaps it was Freedom Cole's (Vyasa SJC) - in which this was > > > discussed. He said that you consider the strongest planet IN > the > > > house as the Ishta. If there is none, I think what Sanjay > Rathji had > > > said was that the planets having rasi dristi (not graha > dristi) to > > > 12th (from AK Navamsa) will lead you to your Ishta. However, > Freedom > > > said that the lord of the 12th from AK Navamsa still > signifies your > > > Ishta (even though those having rasi dristi may lead you to > it). > > > > > > In general, to those who dont know, I have found the > recordings at > > > Freedom's, Visti's and PVR's sites to be very useful.. Here > is the > > > one you ask about: > http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/California.htm > > > <http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/California.htm> > > > look at the 25 September 2005 recordings (I think) > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > Please can you advise if there is no planet in the house > concerned > > > > (wrt ID, PD or DD)what do we best consider: > > > > 1. lord of the house > > > > 2. strongest plaent having graha drishti on that house > > > > 3. strongest planet having rasi drishti on that house > > > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > SS > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40>, Swee Chan <sweechan@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > Dear Deepak, > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > No to both; Moon is in 3rd pada Punarvasu. > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa, the 12th from AK is Ishta Devata and Palana > Devata > > > is > > > > 6th from > > > > > AmK also in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/25/06 4:20 AM, " DEEPAK MODI " <deepakmodi4@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > TASMAI SRIGURUVE NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > RESPECTED SWEEJEE, > > > > > > > > > > > > CHARANAARVINDE, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your teachings, I want to know that whether > my > > > > kundali is > > > > > > afflicted by " MAHAPDMA KAALSARP YOG " or " ARDHA CHANDRA > > > > YOG " .Please shed more > > > > > > light on Istha devata and Palan devata,the difference > or if > > > any > > > > link to > > > > > > know more about them. > > > > > > > > > > > > with deep respect, > > > > > > Deepak > > > > > > > > > > > >> Swee Chan <sweechan@> > > > > > >> sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > >> Sohamsa <sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40>> > > > > > >> Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO ALL > > > > > >> Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:55:05 +0200 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Dear Deepak, > > > > > >> Namaste > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I see nothing of your worst fears. There is a > position in Tai > > > > Chi called > > > > > >> " The Beauteous Hand " - that is to yield if one cannot > fight > > > the > > > > forces > > > > > >> beyond our control. > > > > > >> Friends will possibly leave you, or you may be more > prone to > > > > short > > > > > >> temperedness which depletes you of energy (you > naturally have > > > a > > > > pitta > > > > > >> condition as it is). Health may deteriorate > further.... Co- > > > lord > > > > Sani as the > > > > > >> is badhakesh traversing in the 5th. Often times, one > turns to > > > > bhakti > > > > > >> because > > > > > >> of external marauding nature especially being let > down by > > > > friends etc. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Palana devata is Moon. - " Om Krsnaya Namah " -- check > in the > > > > archives for > > > > > >> mantars related to this. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Jay Sr Krishna, Jay Sri Radhe > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Love, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Swee > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 12/23/06 6:14 PM, " DEEPAK MODI " <deepakmodi4@> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> JAI JAGANNATH SWAMI NAYANPATH GAAMI BHAVA TUME > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Respected Sweejee, > > > > > >>> Charanaarvinde > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Firstly many many Thanks for your quick reply and > advices > > > > about my > > > > > >>> horoscope.Secondly purchasing a yellow sapphire and > a yellow > > > > diamond is > > > > > >> now > > > > > >>> a too much costly job for me, any substitute - > please guide > > > me. > > > > > >>> please tell me about what kind of " worst " I 'll have > to face > > > > while > > > > > >> Saturn > > > > > >>> retrogrades and Rahu in Badhaksthaan, may be Death or > > > > accidents to me or > > > > > >> my > > > > > >>> spouse or children (a Daughter born on 12th nov.2000 > at > > > 15:53 > > > > pm cuttack > > > > > >> and > > > > > >>> a son born on 28th nov 2002 at 11:53 am cuttack). > > > > > >>> I was suffering from " Shani-shadhesaati " and I lost > almost > > > > everything. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> with deep respect, > > > > > >>> Deepak modi > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> Swee Chan <sweechan@> > > > > > >>>> sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > >>>> Sohamsa <sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40>> > > > > > >>>> Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO ALL > > > > > >>>> Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:55:41 +0200 > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Dear Deepak, > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> A yellow sapphire, no less. Yellow diamondâEUR^ > s best to > > > quell > > > > transits > > > > > >> and > > > > > >>>> unsavoury natal placements of both Saturn and Rahu > who are > > > > involved in > > > > > >> a > > > > > >>>> tug > > > > > >>>> of war. Worse is yet to come when Saturn > retrogrades and > > > > transit Rahu > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>>> currently in badhakstana. > > > > > >>>> Planets in lagna are involved in a paapa kartari > âEUR " a > > > > negative aspect > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Love, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Swee > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On 12/23/06 10:29 AM, " dpk_modi " <deepakmodi4@> > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Sweejee,Sanjayjee & All respected jees > of " SOHAMSA > > > > GROUP " > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> " Charaanarbinde to all " > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I am Deepak Modi D.O.B.-04thMay1968 time 05:30 am > > > > long.:85E56 > > > > > >>>>> and lati.:20N26 (INDIA,ORISSA/CUTTACK),newly > joined The > > > > Sohamsa > > > > > >> Groups. > > > > > >>>>> I am feeling very proud and lucky to be a small > part of > > > > SOHAMSA.Though > > > > > >>>>> I am also interested in astrology and likewise > activities > > > I > > > > want that > > > > > >>>>> you all Respected and learned members of SOHAMSA, > accept > > > me > > > > as part of > > > > > >>>>> the group.I will be very much obelidged for that > kind > > > > acceptance. > > > > > >>>>> May i request you all members to please kindly > look in my > > > > > >>>>> horoscope and advice me what to do or what not to > do. I am > > > > in building > > > > > >>>>> construction business now. what RATNA should I > wear to get > > > > the > > > > > >>>>> blessings of benefic GRAHAS ? OR ANY remedies i > should > > > adopt > > > > to please > > > > > >>>>> my benefic GRAHAS. > > > > > >>>>> With Deep Respect, > > > > > >>>>> Deepak Modi > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > ________ > > > > > >>> Stay in tune with the latest styles! Check out the > happening > > > > fashion > > > > > >> trends > > > > > >>> on 'Wardrobe watch'. Only on MSN Lifestyle > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Moreonlifestyle/LifeStyle_091006_0 > > > > <http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Moreonlifestyle/LifeStyle_091006_ > 0> > > > > 551.htm > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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