Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Srivastava ji, Namaste [in practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten Cases.] **Narada Muni mentions the calculations a ghatikas and not degrees. ** The other 10% not mentioned by you is usually overlooked, which are the following points to consider: If during the months of Ashadha, Asvina, Bhadrapada and Magha, Mula dwells in Deva Loka. A ntive born during these months in Mula nakshatra attains a kingdom. Middling effects will be felt with one born during the months of Sravana, Kartika, Chaitra and Pausha when Mula’s abode is on earth. If birth is during the months of Mula’s abode in the netherworld, expect destruction of the family’s dynasty. These motnhs are during Margarshirsha, Phalgun, Vaishakha and Jyeshtha. The other 2 more points to consider before one makes a final conclusion to the foreboding: - if birth has taken place during Abhijit muhurta, all ills are nullified and - if birth is in the 4th pada. I don’t have JB within reach, hence am referring from Hora Ratnam. Love, Swee On 1/1/07 4:40 PM, " swami " <swami_rcs wrote: ` ˆg[ezay nm> Dear Gurus & friends, I came across this sloka in Jatka bharanam . I do not know well to use I translator but I have made an effort to write sanskrit text. The sloka relates to “ Mool Nakshatra phal.” In the opposite avayava( part of body) and so on ? Can some expert Make me understand correct meaning of this sloka. I have commentry of Shri Sita Ram jha but Viruddhaavayava is not explained.It is simply translated. mUl ibéÎavyv smUlm! k…lm! hrTyeb vdiNt sNt>, cedNywa sTk…éte ibzezaTsaeÉaGymayuSc! k…laiÉìidxm!. müla biruddävayava samüolam kulam haratyeba vadanti santaù | cedanyathä satkuruetea biçeçätsoobhägyamäyusc kuläbhivraedidham || CONTEXT I was examining charts of some celebraties to study the reasons of Rumors afloat in Media, I recalled a letter in Astrological Magazine publihed by Late Shri P.S.Iyer on Abhukta moola in Aug 83 Issue. There in He mentioned certain factors to be seen and quoted some belief and maximas often quoted in south how Father in law or mother in law longevity is affected if Girl belongs to Mool and Aashlesha respectively. He mentioned also “ last degree( text use Ghati in place of Degree) Of constellation Jyestha and first two degrees of Moola and a child born in Abhukta Moola usually struggles for existence and it will do things contrary to the progress of the clan in which it is born.Similarly a child born in the last two degrees of Aslesha and the first degree of the Makha faces the same fate.In practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten Cases.But this is not the only reason for the superstition. Then he describes other factors That I found in full in Jataka Bharanam. But I struck here.Hence the posting ? Hope to get explanation. R.C.Srivastava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Swee and Srivastava, Namaskar The months and their relevance to the Gandanta are also described in detail in Jataka Parijata. But, Srivastava can you please give the reference to your sloka? The chapter and number please? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Srivastava ji, Namaste [in practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten Cases.] **Narada Muni mentions the calculations a ghatikas and not degrees. ** The other 10% not mentioned by you is usually overlooked, which are the following points to consider: If during the months of Ashadha, Asvina, Bhadrapada and Magha, Mula dwells in Deva Loka. A ntive born during these months in Mula nakshatra attains a kingdom. Middling effects will be felt with one born during the months of Sravana, Kartika, Chaitra and Pausha when Mula’s abode is on earth. If birth is during the months of Mula’s abode in the netherworld, expect destruction of the family’s dynasty. These motnhs are during Margarshirsha, Phalgun, Vaishakha and Jyeshtha. The other 2 more points to consider before one makes a final conclusion to the foreboding: - if birth has taken place during Abhijit muhurta, all ills are nullified and - if birth is in the 4th pada. I don’t have JB within reach, hence am referring from Hora Ratnam. Love, Swee On 1/1/07 4:40 PM, "swami" <swami_rcs > wrote: ` ˆg[ezay nm> Dear Gurus & friends, I came across this sloka in Jatka bharanam . I do not know well to use I translator but I have made an effort to write sanskrit text. The sloka relates to “ Mool Nakshatra phal.” In the opposite avayava( part of body) and so on ? Can some expert Make me understand correct meaning of this sloka. I have commentry of Shri Sita Ram jha but Viruddhaavayava is not explained.It is simply translated. mUl ibéÎavyv smUlm! k…lm! hrTyeb vdiNt sNt>, cedNywa sTk…éte ibzezaTsaeÉaGymayuSc! k…laiÉìidxm!. müla biruddävayava samüolam kulam haratyeba vadanti santaù | cedanyathä satkuruetea biçeçätsoobhägyamäyusc kuläbhivraedidham || CONTEXT I was examining charts of some celebraties to study the reasons of Rumors afloat in Media, I recalled a letter in Astrological Magazine publihed by Late Shri P.S.Iyer on Abhukta moola in Aug 83 Issue. There in He mentioned certain factors to be seen and quoted some belief and maximas often quoted in south how Father in law or mother in law longevity is affected if Girl belongs to Mool and Aashlesha respectively. He mentioned also “ last degree( text use Ghati in place of Degree) Of constellation Jyestha and first two degrees of Moola and a child born in Abhukta Moola usually struggles for existence and it will do things contrary to the progress of the clan in which it is born.Similarly a child born in the last two degrees of Aslesha and the first degree of the Makha faces the same fate.In practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten Cases.But this is not the only reason for the superstition. Then he describes other factors That I found in full in Jataka Bharanam. But I struck here.Hence the posting ? Hope to get explanation. R.C.Srivastava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Dear swee, Nameste **Narada Muni mentions the calculations a ghatikas and not degrees. And so is Jatak bharana. Sh P .S .I Letter might have printing mistake. I take ghati as quoted by me in brackts. To be precise, My question remains unanswered.. I quoted sloka. Please copy and paste in I -translator you will have the sloka readable( although to me it appears altered, just now I tried from On line group message reading.). About half a dozen factors are used before declaring results that are associated with Abhokkta mool Nakshattra. Then only reading is found correct. They are Mool Bela, Mool charan,Human chakra, Tree chakra and Muhurta(among which Raksh, yatudhaan pita yama and kaal are bad.) Majority decides the outcome. My desire was to learn the meaning of " Viruddhaavayava " used in sloka. Recently another commentary has come on JB in market, May be some one having that may respond. I am unable to correctly understand the sloka. After your posting I checked Saravali .Now another question emerges, You have quoted Name of Months. If during the months of Ashadha, Asvina, Bhadrapada and Magha, Mula dwells in Deva Loka. A ntive born during these months in Mula nakshatra attains a kingdom. Exactly similar is quoted for Bhadra and its residence.Term used are swarg, Prithivi and Patal. But that is about doing work( karma). I have not examined principal from Hora sara , suppose I want to adopted this principal as Rider, I need to know How name of Month are to be taken. The old definition of Month name is given in sloka 4 of ch Vii IN saravali . It says Month is from Pratipada and when sun is in Aries it is Chaitra month till thirty are over . So amant month or pornmant is to be taken? And on which day Sun should be in Aries Pratipada , pornima or Amavyasa Hope clarifications do come .. sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Srivastava ji, > Namaste > > [in practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten Cases.] > > **Narada Muni mentions the calculations a ghatikas and not degrees. > > ** The other 10% not mentioned by you is usually overlooked, which are the > following points to consider: > > If during the months of Ashadha, Asvina, Bhadrapada and Magha, Mula dwells > in Deva Loka. A ntive born during these months in Mula nakshatra attains a > kingdom. > Middling effects will be felt with one born during the months of Sravana, > Kartika, Chaitra and Pausha when Mula¹s abode is on earth. > If birth is during the months of Mula¹s abode in the netherworld, expect > destruction of the family¹s dynasty. These motnhs are during Margarshirsha, > Phalgun, Vaishakha and Jyeshtha. > > The other 2 more points to consider before one makes a final conclusion to > the foreboding: > - if birth has taken place during Abhijit muhurta, all ills are > nullified and > - if birth is in the 4th pada. > > I don¹t have JB within reach, hence am referring from Hora Ratnam. > > Love, > > Swee > > On 1/1/07 4:40 PM, " swami " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ` –g[ezay nm> > > Dear Gurus & friends, > > > > I came across this sloka in Jatka bharanam . I do not know well to use I > > translator but I have made an effort to write sanskrit text. The sloka > > relates to ³ Mool Nakshatra phal.² > > In the opposite avayava( part of body) and so on ? Can some expert > > Make me understand correct meaning of this sloka. I have commentry of Shri > > Sita Ram jha but Viruddhaavayava is not explained.It is simply translated. > > mUl ibéÎavyv smUlm! kŠlm! hrTyeb vdiNt sNt>, > > cedNywa sTkŠéte ibzezaTsaeÉaGymayuSc! kŠlaiÉìidxm!. > > müla biruddävayava samüolam kulam haratyeba vadanti santaù | > > cedanyathä satkuruetea biçeçätsoobhägyamäyusc kuläbhivraedidham || > > CONTEXT > > I was examining charts of some celebraties to study the reasons of Rumors > > afloat in Media, I recalled a letter in Astrological Magazine publihed by > > Late Shri P.S.Iyer on Abhukta moola in Aug 83 Issue. > > There in He mentioned certain factors to be seen and quoted some belief and > > maximas often quoted in south how Father in law or mother in law longevity > > is affected if Girl belongs to Mool and Aashlesha respectively. > > He mentioned also ³ last degree( text use Ghati in place of Degree) > > Of constellation Jyestha and first two degrees of Moola and a child born in > > Abhukta Moola usually struggles for existence and it will do things contrary > > to the progress of the clan in which it is born.Similarly a child born in the > > last two degrees of Aslesha and the first degree of the Makha faces the same > > fate.In practice this theory seems to prove correct in nine out of Ten > > Cases.But this is not the only reason for the superstition. Then he describes > > other factors That I found in full in Jataka Bharanam. But I struck here.Hence > > the posting ? Hope to get explanation. > > R.C.Srivastava. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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